The decrease in The number of catholics can be the cause of the increasing degeceracy among America and Europe?

The decrease in The number of catholics can be the cause of the increasing degeceracy among America and Europe?

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Or, or people rejected the authoritarian rule of the Catholic Church and became degenerate as a way to rebel against the Catholic restrictions. I work with a man who was excommunicated for getting a divorce. He became a Methodist. Remember, were not discussing religion in general.

I don't like the direction the Catholic church has gone down. They're cucked politically and only care about financial matters like mega churches in the US with TV preachers. I don't mind if people are Catholic but I prefer to be non-denominational. In general I think people not having God in life leaves them few reasons to be morally healthy and more likely to do degenerate behavior, so sort of yes.

The degeneration among the cristians has decreased. Also in Amerika, it's mostly the pablos who are catholics. Where is the bad thing, I can't see?

Well, before '50 america was a degenerate hellhole and now thanks to BASED mexicans is turing into a conservative paradise! DEUS GEVALT!

Anti-Christian!

Catholicism has become so liberal that I really don't even see any difference between it and Lutheranism.
>t. raised Lutheran with a Catholic friend who has taken me to several masses.

The fuck are you talking about, mr fag on flag? Christianity grows, it's whites that are dimishing in numbers. Your metizo brethen is only getting more numerous.

The difference is that catholic priests spend years reading and studying to say what they say.

So do pastors. What's your point?

No fucking way. Anyone can be a pastor of a protestant church.

Dude. I have no love for catholic church but there is a big fucking diference between a pastor and a catholic priest. Aside of extensive biblical knowlege priests are versed in canonical law, theology, philosophy and history.

The cause of the decrease in Catholicism probably has something to do with the whole going to church experience. Holy shit is it boring. Takes forever and you get absolutely nothing of value out of it. Listen to a random verse, sing a song, another verse, another song, eat a wafer, drink some wine, verse, local goings on and finally gtfo.

maybe...

but christianity will never unite european people

christian identity goes beyond race or nation

European traditions are the only want to save Europe. there needs to be a European identity, a white identity

>all that signing
You're probably Methodist

There's a difference between being some nutty preacher and being an ordained minister. Why do you act like they don't exist? Early protestant leaders were highly educated as well.

>1 hour
>forever

catholics are degeneracy
evangelicalism is the true way

You can blame the second Vatican council for that. Going to mass used to basically be a ritual

>Early protestant leaders were highly educated as well.
Becouse they were mostly ex-catholic priests?

Fuckoff.

Father there has to be something more than just a decrease in religious numbers for this spread of degeneracy.

I freaking love Catholics
Such polite, kind, patient people.
It's much more intellectual to be a catholic than an atheist ANY DAY of the week (but especially the Sabbath : ) )
So happy that my mother was a catholic

Oh yeah, pre-2 vatican masses were a fucking blast. People couldn't wait to listen some latin once a week.

Like what? Away from the church people are more likely to spread feminist/left/globalist/LGBT shit

>Upset about the Catholic Church

That's like whining that there's a stain on your shirt because a man was slaughtered in front of you

The II Vatican Council says that the Masses CAN be celebrated in the local language. Not that it SHOULD. you can blame the priests, not the institution.

Pro-tip All charity, good will and morals in the Western world proceeds from Christianity. These DID NOT exist in the 1st century AD except in abstract philosophy. Secularists of today benefit from generations of Christian belief and practice and is fast disappearing with the rise of sociopathic corporate mono-culture. Enjoy our gifts while you can, they are being eradicated by cultural Marxism as the years progress. .

No. Most Christianity embraces the catholic lie of salvation by works. Most of Christianity is plagued by lordship salvation.

And what we can do to stop it?

In 1309 AD, the seat of the papacy was moved from Rome to Avignon (France). In total, 7 Popes were seated in Avignon until 1377 AD when the seat was moved back to Rome. The entire justification for papal supremacy is based on the claim that there is an unbroken line of Bishops of Rome from St. Peter... except that line was broken during the Avignon Papacy over 700 years ago. The Papist Church is a false church.

Pray the rosary

Yep, you are on the mark.

Hail Mary full of outer space

*Pray to the idol goy

The beliefs still the same, the church still the same. The geographic position of pope's house dont change anything.

Those are from Hindu and Budhist origins.

You are a paganist.

Often people quit going for one big reason "the holier than thou" issue. You see people that are higher ups in churches (pastor/priest, deacons, etc.) will say "you are doing x thing and it's bad you are awful" then they turn around and do something awful. Prime example of this: preacher at a church I used to go to recently became a pastor at a different one. Turns out he was a rampant alcoholic and beat his wife and kids.
Another example: a different church I went to threw out the old pastor (nothing wrong with him, I'm guessing they didn't like him because he took the teachings of the Bible seriously unlike them), and got a new guy. He proceeded to sleep and I believe run off with another members wife.
And this is the problem, they get mad at you for something then do something worse. It's why I've quit going to church, still a Christian though

t. Missionary Baptist

Lutherans have separated into liberal (ELCA) and conservative (Missouri Synod, others) churches. The RC can't split off like that, because that's not how Catholicism works, so all the liberal/conservative disputes happen in house. Be assured conservative Catholic priests/laypeople exist and are overrepresented among younger generations.

Qualifications to become a Pastor according to the King James Holy Bible.

3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:1-7

Letters you use are pagan.

Next your going to say the Pope can't truly speak ex cathedra because the actual Papal Throne was built in the 1200s.

Stop repeating Loraine Boettner copypasta.

>The beliefs still the same
False

Tell me why

Will everybody please just refer to the Bible for the qualifications of a pastor instead of making something up...

God doesn't ordains Pope's or even use the term Catholic. There is salvation found outside of the Catholic Church. It's called Jesus's Christ and believing only through faith by grace you are saved through him. All that believe on him shall not perish but have ever lasting life. Your going to church, paying tithe, helping somebody on the street who's homeless doesn't save you. And the Bible says there is no one righteous no not one. It's by putting your simple child like faith in Jesus that saves you from your sins.

Now that's not to say if we chose to disobey or "transgress" the law we are subject to chastizement. God will punish us here on Earth but that's not going to kick us out of his family. Just like your dad punishes you when you misbehave I believe God does the same. He is the father to his kids.

Yes.

>All charity, good will and morals in the Western world proceeds from Christianity.
And here we see a Christian lying through his teeth, most likely in some desperate attempt to curb favor from the remainder of the board. The other option, that he is unaware of the values of those who came before, from the values of democracy from the Greeks to the honor seen in several western mythologies, is simply idiotic, though not impossible.

Read your King James Holy Bible daily. Pray to Jesus's Christ and ask for wisdom. Meditate and make melody with your heart on God's word. Sing spiritual songs. And most importantly be a doer of his Word.

I found a CARIOCA

>2017
>still affiliating yourself with worldwide organized pedophilic rings
>not believing in the truth and beauty of god itself
just be good fucking person, you heretics.

Nope. The catholic church is inherently corrupt and anti-Christ. They do not follow the bible at all. They are followers of man made doctrine, not divine doctrine.

gonna kill all you fucking heretic Baptists right after the muslims and jews

Venezuela is 96% roman catholic, they are doing fine.

Pretty sure Fundamentalists and Evangelicals are worse than Baptists.

U mad?

Show me a so called "heresy" that is being preached in a King James, Soul-winning, born again, independent, Fundamental Baptist Church?

They live in a fucking dictatorship. They are victims

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Catholics are pagans

>1 hour long speech.
And what does this have to do with Fundamentalists, Evangelicals, and the ludicrously obnoxious behavior seen by both?

>Fundamentalists, Evangelicals,
What is wrong with being either?

>pastor anderson
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And prostitutes are virgins

Not really
I know at least as much degenerate Christians as degenerate atheists. Only the area of how they are degenerate differs.

Well, born-again virgins can!

Unironically this

No?

Helps when your fucking Pope is the goddamned False Prophet of Revelation

No they're not. The jesuits helped them get rid of filthy capitalism, and created a socialist paradise in the process. I see you posting with a fascist flag. Aren't you in agreement that socialism is good? Don't you know that national socialism is a movement originally brainstormed by jesuits? it's working, bro. Don't fight it.

>highly educated
>religious
pick one

The catholic church is one of the most degenate institutions on the face of this planet.. fuck off.

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Mostly their ludicrously obnoxious behavior throughout the past century and a score. The same unceasing behavior that not only lead to the prohibition, a movement that in the end failed and only burdened the United States' budget with the need for busting down on bootleggers, but also several other protests, such as the DnD satanic panic of the 80s and the video game violence pandemic of the 90s. These actions had painted both themselves and, by extension, much of Christianity in the very light you often see in the mainstream media. Taking with them not only other Christians, but also much of the Conservative party (before the neo-cons) and perhaps even a good chunk of right leaning economic thoughts with it. Further adding fuel to the fire that led to the current situation of SJWs and Marxists that we see today.
I'm not saying they were the sole cause of today's degeneracy, but I am saying we would have to wait another 15-30 years before we got to today's condition at best.

It is fucking forbidden for a member of tha catholic church being socialist/communist

>Protestants are responsible for the degeneracy in the nations they founded.
Arguable, but roman catholics don't exactly have clean hands either. Don't get me started on the jews.

Homosexual orgies are also forbidden, but they are not exactly uncommon among the clergy, and neither is marxism in latin america among the jesuits, but of course, they have an alternate name for it, liberation theology, so they can claim to have nothing to do with marxism or socialism.

>versed in canonical law
Knowing the way their own particular organization works. Them and every other organization does this.

Being catholic doesn't give you the right of speaking and making decisions in name of the church.

Go'uuld?

Liberation theology is fucking ridiculous. In this point we agree

Unironically not knowing that your conception of "good" is foundationally Christian.

Also, Jesus gave us two commands:
1. Love the Lord thy God
2. Love thy neighbour.

The FIRST being the chief commandment with the latter being impossible without the former.

Another point:

Baruch Spinoza a (((Dutch))) Philosopher claimed what you are claiming, that the new testament simply amount to "loving thy neighbor:
He was a pantheist and forerunner to thinkers like Nietzsche and all post moderns who are dismantling society.

So, to conclude, your little platitude of "just be a gud widdle person ok guys" is precisely what is wrong with our world for loving ones neighbour is impossible without first loving God.

I agree with you, degeneracy and vice, sin and corruption, these things have been seen in every single religion, belief, and cult since the dawn of time. The only variance usually being how the degeneracy manifests. For the Jews, it was an unfathomable avarice that, left untempered by virtues of honesty and diligence, had turned them into what they are now. The Muslims are wrathful people without the necessary control and temperment to make use of that wrath. Hell, I'll admit that there are many smug atheists in society, causing some to be irritating at the best of times. Of course there are members of these groups that shun the vices of there peers or at least don't have them be as strong, and they may even make up the majority at times. However, their is still a sizable population of these groups that is large enough to paint a negative picture in the eye of the public.
However, the previous post was about the Fundamentalists and the Evangelicals in particular, and my problems with them.

the cleansing is coming soon dont worry god knows who will burn and who will be protected, the holy war is at the door knocking

AND HOW WE CAN START CHANGING SOCIETY BACK FOR THE GOOD PATH?

America was never Catholic. Fuck off, Gentile Pharisee.

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Do you know what Pharisees and Catholics have in common? They both follow the traditions of men and altered the Ten Commandments!
Mark 7:1-13King James Version (KJV)
7 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

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Its part of it.

In order to escape persecution from the Catholic Church, secret societies were formed such as the Masons and it was these good Masons who founded the United States of America. The U.S.A. was founded on the principles of the Renaissance and Reformation, it reflected a "New Order of The Ages" where we the people were sovereign and no one was sovereign over us.
In the U.S. there was no sovereign king, queen or pope. The government was meant to be the servant of the people.

Yes, the Catholicism was a major force in fighting degeneracy through the 1950s. The most notable example would be the Catholic influence in Hayes-era Hollywood.

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Things kind of went off the rails after that, so even though you still have the same Catholic moral teaching, it's now a marginalized force, not the culturual behemoth it was before. I don't see that changing any time soon, but the liberal Catholics, like all those who imbibe destructive, degenerate ideologies will die off sooner or later.

Because the Pope kisses nigger feet and says it's ok to be gay. I'm sick and tired of being lumped in with kiddie diddlers and I hope you all fuck off or die or convert or something. Catholicism is rotten to the core.

>masonry
No thanks. Masonry and all liberal ideologies must go.

It's obviously been subverted by Jews.

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>Ignatius of Loyola, a Basque nobleman from the Pyrenees area of northern Spain, founded the society after discerning his spiritual vocation while recovering from a wound sustained in the Battle of Pamplona. He composed the Spiritual Exercises to help others follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. In 1534, Ignatius and six other young men, including Francis Xavier and Peter Faber, gathered and professed vows of poverty, chastity, and later obedience, including a special vow of obedience to the Pope in matters of mission direction and assignment. Ignatius's plan of the order's organization was approved by Pope Paul III in 1540 by a bull containing the "Formula of the Institute".
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Jesuit Oath
"I do further declare that I will help, assist and advise all or any of his holiness’ agents, in any place where I should be in Switzerland, Germany, Holland or America, or in any other territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines, and destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. .... I do further promise and declare, that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth, and that I will spare neither age, sex, nor condition, and that I will burn, hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle, bury alive, these infamous heretics, open up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants’ heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poison cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity or authority of the persons whatever be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed to so do, by any agent of the Pope, or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith of the Society of Jesus."

>Ignatius was a nobleman who had a military background, and the members of the society were supposed to accept orders anywhere in the world, where they might be required to live in extreme conditions. Accordingly, the opening lines of the founding document declared that the society was founded for "whoever desires to serve as a soldier of God[a] to strive especially for the defence and propagation of the faith and for the progress of souls in Christian life and doctrine."[4] Jesuits are thus sometimes referred to colloquially as "God's soldiers",[5] "God's marines",[6] or "the Company", which evolved from references to Ignatius' history as a soldier and the society's commitment to accepting orders anywhere and to endure any conditions.[7] The society participated in the Counter-Reformation and, later, in the implementation of the Second Vatican Council.

>Catholics aren't degenerate
>Pedophilia isn't degenerate
>Priests that literally don't believe in God aren't degenerate