The first half is a history lesson on the forgotten violence and insanity of the American left. The last half is a bunch of predictions that so far are coming true. The whole thing is worth a read, but here are a few excerpts that are relevant right now:
>If at any point in 2017 Trump supporters are harmed or harrassed like the rally in Chicago, expect Righties to get very interested in forming street defense leagues: goons and headhunters to make Black Bloc spit teeth. And they’ll be purely defensive. For a while. But they’re human. So then they’ll think about getting proactive. >Bluntly: this is dangerous. The people who do it for the Left are literal Communists. What kind of Righties will it draw? Oh, I dunno, I’m guessing people who’re comfortable with violence, who don’t mind breaking norms or being arrested… > ... >Hard Right violence will be distributed. >Terrorists are basically mass murderers, or people who want to be. ... A murder factory is a self-perpetuating machine that brings in recruits and spits out killers. Islamic State: that’s a murder factory. >Murder factories are hard to build. Weatherman [radical leftist group active in the 70's] tried to build one. They failed. The hard Left is bigger with fifty years more experience now, and I still doubt they could make a murder factory without support from a foreign power. That leaves conspiracies for Lefties, and loners for the Right. >So if Lefty violence will mostly be the result of conspiracies, while Righty violence will mostly be the work of loners, there will be differences in the kinds of things that Lefties and Righties will be able to do. A lone perpetrator can pull off a bombing, for example, but not a riot.
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>In 1972, a group called Venceremos, from the Bay Area, literally broke out a black convict named Ronald Beaty during a prison transport so he could train them in guerrilla tactics and lead a revolution. >That was their actual plan. That was their entire actual plan. >But where there’s a demand, a supply will surface, and in 1973, a black inmate named Donald DeFreeze capitalized on the trend. >DeFreeze escaped prison and hooked up with a Berkeley, CA radical named Patricia “Mizmoon” Soltysik. DeFreeze and Mizmoon assembled a small cell of eight men and women. Say hello to the Symbionese Liberation Army. Slogan: “Death to the fascist insect that preys on the blood of the people!” >So their first target, of course, is Oakland’s first black school administrator, superintendent Marcus Foster! >I know. You’re thinking, “Wait, what?” >Foster had dared suggest ID cards for kids and using police to curb in-school violence. For this, the SLA murdered him, on November 6, 1973. In 1974, the SLA kidnapped 19yo heiress Patty Hearst, demanding her family do massive food giveaways (which they did). The food giveaways actually got the SLA some favorable attention in the radical press, for forcing the rich to give to the poor. Meanwhile, the SLA was indoctrinating Hearst and raping her repeatedly. Then the SLA offered her a choice: to join them, or be released. >Let me ask you a question: in the shoes of 19-year-old Patty Hearst, how much would you trust the assurances of Donald DeFreeze and the SLA? That’s exactly how much Hearst trusted them when they said they’d let her go. So she said of course she’d join them. Hearst famously robbed a bank with the SLA and went on the run with them. The account I’ve given of her decision is hers, which I believe. >The press was going nuts. Imagine a Kardashian were kidnapped, then resurfaced having become a terrorist. That’s what this was like.
Juan Nelson
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Asher Miller
How the left corrupts institutions: part 1 >One of the most insane stories is that of Lincoln Detox and the Family. July and November of 1970, a gang occupies the South Bronx’s Lincoln Hospital and presents demands to administrators. The demand: Lincoln Hospital facilities are shitty. The gang demands a drug treatment center, and they demand to operate it. >They got nearly a million bucks from the government to do it. That’s what the 1970s were like. This was Lincoln Detox. It was run by militant leftists. (They gave the BLA medical supplies, to give you an idea.) Methadone came coupled with Marxist education, paid for by the city. Political education as a cure for heroin addiction. >I’m not kidding! This really happened! New York City was paying for it all! >Lincoln Detox was, in short, an Institution for leftist radicals, paid for by city tax dollars. And it was robbing the city blind. Burrough’s accounting of how blind is stunning: in 1973, Lincoln Detox was treating half the patients its contract called for, at rates *four times* those of other city clinics. In 1976 HHC found nearly $1 million in unsubstantiated payroll, with staff absentee rates up to 71%. The clinic refused to share its personnel records, but during an auditors’ visit only half the 45 listed staff were on duty. Despite this remarkable absenteeism, the staff were still managing to make thousands of dollars in personal phone calls. >NYC’s Addiction Services Agency was supposedly in charge, but when Detox refused to give required information they’d cut all funds in 1973. So Lincoln Detox got money from Health and Hospitals Corporation, another city agency, which gave money with no strings. Any effort to control the clinic caused massive protests — the clinic staff occupied HHC’s offices and smashed stuff at one point. >Clearly, the only logical thing to happen at this point in the story is for Tupac Shakur’s future stepfather to study acupuncture. >Look, I told you today’s installment gets crazy.
Josiah Phillips
How the left corrupts institutions: part 2 >It turns out that Marxist education is not actually helpful in curing drug addiction, so clinic staffer Mutulu Shakur learns acupuncture. He learns from a doctor working at Lincoln Detox, but his education is interrupted when the doctor dies of a heroin overdose. IN THE CLINIC. >But he finds a new teacher and he and others eventually get doctor of acupuncture degrees from the Acupuncture Association of Quebec. Naturally, with a cushy city gig and a growing acupuncture practice, Shakur comes to the same decision you would in such a situation: “I should use this place and its connections to start robbing banks so I can raise money to start a revolution.” >“Also,” he doubtless added, “to pay for a cocaine habit that is already considerable *fnorrrrrrrrkkkkkk*” >Reminder: this is all happening at a drug treatment clinic that is fully funded by the tax dollars of the City of New York! >But Shakur has never robbed a bank. He needs an experienced bank robber and oh look here comes Sekou Odinga, formerly of the BLA! Naturally, Shakur and Odinga need some logistical support, and what better place to find this than a bunch of white communist feminists — >Look, I told you this story gets crazy. >The feminists are the May 19 Communist Organization, whom Odinga knows through a white radical named Marilyn Buck, who had bought ammo for BLA. Black leadership fetishization is in full effect, so May 19 looks at Shakur and Odinga and assumes OF COURSE they know WTF they’re doing. This union of Lincoln Detox, the last of the BLA, and a bunch of feminist commies gives birth to the radical group known as the Family. >It came at an opportune time. Ed Koch was elected Mayor of New York in 1978, and he had no patience for the Lincoln Detox radicals. Koch evicted them, closed the clinic, and reopened it in a new location under complete city control.
Logan Reyes
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Blake Cruz
On tactics: >Political violence is like war, like violence in general: people have a fantasy about how it works. This is the fantasy of how violence works: you smite your enemies in a grand and glorious cleansing because of course you’re better. >Grand and glorious smiting isn’t actually how violence works. I’ve worked a few places that have had serious political violence. And I’m not sure how to really describe it so people get it. >I’m going to talk about some nasty things here. I do not want any of it. But some or all of it could happen. Some of it already is. In 2017, I am very pessimistic about America’s future, to the point that I think the country should seriously consider a National Divorce. >Everyone feeling nice and at ease now? Good, let’s get started. >Let’s not mince words: the United States of America is currently engaged in a cold Civil War. >In North Carolina, the Republican governor lost re-election, so the Republican legislature convened a special session to limit powers of the post. Democrats nationwide howled with justified outrage; as we all know, legislators who dislike a governor should flee the state to block quorum, facilitate occupation of government buildings by mobs, and have allies execute secret raids on homes on the governor’s supporters. All of those are things that the Democrats did to oppose a Republican governor in Wisconsin, and the Democrats were pretty cool with it. >This isn’t a cutesy “both sides” argument. Nor am I calling out the press for bias, or politicians for hypocrisy (that’s later). >My point is: did you notice the Left and the Right use fundamentally different tactics? >This is no accident. They’re different cultures. The Left and Right don’t just want different things. They also have different abilities, goals, resources, and senses of propriety. Meaning contemporary political violence from the Left and from the Right will look very different.
Nolan Diaz
Bump for interesting shit
Jacob Baker
gib .ebook pls, i never heard about those incidents
Eli Jenkins
On violence: >So maybe we can hope that political violence in the US, ’70s-style, won’t go all-out for massive numbers of deaths? Well… maybe. The way I see it, domestic conflict in the United States could operate in basically four stages:
>1. cold Civil War >2. targeted political violence, mostly short of murder >3. political violence with murder as the default Civil War II >4. The United States should start seriously talking about National Divorce before we get to stage 3.
Note: you are now somewhere between 2-3
>We’re in Stage 1 now. Stages 2 and 3 are what we’re concerned with: the public getting mobilized. What would that look like, on Left and Right? >People tend to think that the Right will be an awesome, horrific force in political violence. The SPLC’s donations depend on that idea. Righties tell themselves that *of course* they’d win a war against Lefties. Tactical Deathbeast vs. Pajama Boy? No contest. Why, Righties have thought about what an effective domestic insurrection would look like. Righties have written books and manifestos! >It’s horseshit. >The truth: the Left is a lot more organized & prepared for violence than the Right is, and has the advantage of a mainstream more supportive of it. >You think that’s unfair? Okay, well: imagine an abortion clinic bombing ring getting presidential clemency. [author links to edition.cnn.com/US/9909/10/faln.clemency.02/index.html] >Outrageous, right? No way the Right could get away with that. But the Left does! And the press gives them cover. >The press freaked out and called for a National Conversation every time some shithead punched a protestor at a Trump rally. If Trump fans pulled a Portland, running through the streets, intimidating motorists, smashing windows, what would press reaction be? You don’t need me to tell you: pants-shitting hysteria fascism OMG Hitler. When Lefties really did that: “meh, that’s what Lefties do.” No need for a National Conversation. Certainly not a Clinton disavowal.
Jose Rodriguez
>That leaves conspiracies for Lefties, and loners for the Right. Why conspiracies? I'd argue that in modern society, the left is more aligned with the status quo and the right is more aligned with (((conspiracies))).
We have a president who actually denounced the Iraq as a mistake publicly for the first time. And the left wants him impeached for MSM talking points.
I think originally (back in like 2010), during the Occupy Wall Street movement, the fringe right and lefties were essentially on the same side against the establishment. But the Democrats convinced the lefties that they were also lefties (with Bernie Sanders). The tea party essentially had their candidate elected in a 4 way race between hardcore anti establishment socialists (Bernie), establishment deep state (Clinton), Neocon deep state (Jeb) and the Tea Party/Infowars/Libertarian anti establishment (Trump)
Ultimately, the "alt right" had more influence in the election and won. But the established deep state took advantage of Bernie and basically took over the lefty part of the Occupy Wall Street movement and turned into the violent lefties we see today. They turned the establishment police state under Obama into a product of Trump's racism and bigotry, even though all of these things they are protesting against existed long before Trump took office.
Christopher Morgan
On ANTIFA and the alt-right: >Part of the bargain of civilization is ceding the authority to commit violence to the State. (Has its own problems. Beats the alternative.) Lord knows there are people I’d love to beat the shit out of in the street, but if I don’t get to then neither do you. No, I don’t give a flying fuck who they are; you don’t get to do that. >Lefties say, “Well, that’s Nazis, they only do that to Nazis; Nazis are different, you have to shut that shit down, etc.” Great. Except that Lefties pull the same “shut this shit down!” stuff on mainstream Righties on college campuses, all the while calling them Nazis. >Hell, Lefties said Ted Cruz was a Nazi, Mitt Romney was a Nazi, George W. Bush was a Nazi. I’ve done human rights work that had me working in proximity to the U.S. military, so at a professional meeting a Lefty called me a Nazi. >So if you tell me that I’m a Nazi, and tell me people I respect are Nazis, and tell me you’re in favor of going out and beating up Nazis, guess what? I am suddenly very interested in the physical safety of Nazis. >And I’m Jewish. >In 209 BC, two Qin Dynasty army officers, Chen Sheng and Wu Guang, were ordered to lead their troops on a march to provide reinforcements. Massive flooding delayed them. They couldn’t make their rendezvous time. In the Qin Dynasty, this carried the death penalty. No excuses. >“What’s the penalty for being late?” >“Death.” >“What’s the penalty for rebellion?” >“Death.” >“Well — we’re late.” >And that’s the story of the Dazexiang Uprising. >How does full-on streetfighting start in the United States of America? My guess is: pretty much like that. “What’s the penalty for kicking the living shit out of Leftist protestors?” “Oh, Jesus, we’d be demonized as Nazis.” “…what’ll they do if we don’t kick the living shit out of Leftist protestors?” “They’ll — hmmmmmmm….”
Alexander Turner
On the right adopting left's tactics: >The Right is not big enough or organized enough to really destroy Lefty Institutions. Like the Left, they’ll be looking to intimidate people out of the game and take away enemy tools. Example: Institutional and media bias means radical Leftist tactics are accepted, which means radical Leftist tactics become normalized. Ergo, the only way the Right can delegitimize Lefty tactics is to use them, at which point they’ll become The Worst Things Ever Done By Man. My guess is the Right will start using Leftist tactics against members of Leftist Institutions: “This is what you ordered. Eat it.” >Specifically, I think the hard Right is going to discover the joys of “nonviolent property damage,” which the Left has foolishly normalized. I’m always puzzled when Lefty journalists praise “nonviolent property damage” as if they don’t have offices, homes, and personal property. University administrators who let Lefties disrupt Righty speakers with impunity also have offices, homes, and personal property. Heck, when Lefty rioters get arrested, papers print their names and mugshots. And they have homes, and cars, and … you know the drill. >The advantage of “nonviolent property damage” for Righties: one person can do it without trying to put together a conspiracy. Nor does it injure people. But let’s be blunt: though no people are hurt it is, despite what Lefties say, violence and it would get very ugly, very fast. And it wouldn’t be entirely effective. The Institutions wouldn’t be destroyed. They’d still be there. >But what happens if the Trump administration is a player? No, I don’t think the Trump administration is going to be putting people in camps, or offering free helicopter rides. What the Trump admin might do is use the full force of the federal government to take a chainsaw to Leftist Institutions’ funding and power. Which threat, of course, could spur radical Lefties to violence. (Remember: provoking your enemy to violence is a goal.)
Jacob Gutierrez
On funding and defunding: >In the 70s, radicals were basically limited to 3 options:
> 1. parasitizing existing institutions (like FALN and the Episcopal Church), > 2. leeching off organizations of well-off radicals (Weatherman and the National Lawyers’ Guild), or > 3. robbing banks (everyone else).
>Robbing banks isn’t a great strategy long-term. That’s how people got police attention, and occasionally gunfights and murder charges. In 2016, I’d expect radicals to use electronic crime options: ransomware, identity theft, that sort of thing. Less risk of detection. On the Left, though, most violent plots would be funded in the same manner as the FALN: parasitization. >Given the sea of Lefty foundations, nonprofits, and professions, parasitizing a few organizations to fund terrorism would be very doable. Nor would it be hard for YouTube stars or Leftists with Patreons — or, hell, the National Lawyers’ Guild — to turn money toward radicals. >On the Right, funding would be more of a challenge. It always is. Bitcoin would make funding anonymously easier. Also, many righties would be acting alone, so they wouldn’t have huge budgets. Still, the Left, again, has an absolutely massive structural advantage. >There will also be efforts to target each others’ funding. Note that Lefties already do this to Righties, and Righties to Lefties. Righties want to not give their own money to their enemies. Lefties want no one to give any money to their enemies. You can see some of this going on now re: defunding Planned Parenthood. For the pro-life groups, it’s about abortion, full stop, but for Steve Bannon, I’m guessing it’s about a powerful institution that uses money & political organization to support enemy politicians. Of course he’d look to stop taxpayer dollars from going to Planned Parenthood. If you think of politics as a war, that’s a no-brainer.
Carson Brooks
>I feel a little sick writing about this stuff. And a little stupid for talking about it. It sounds crazy in daylight. But every place I’ve been that had this happen thought it sounded crazy, too. And I have a bad feeling that right now what Americans want is to chop each other down like trees. >You want to know what I’m really terrified of? Imagine a few dozen iterations of this story: >There’s a famous case where a shadowy group was after a high-value, high-status target who used his considerable resources to retreat. The group couldn’t get to him. So they targeted everybody associated with him: Friends. Family. Staff. Lawyers. Sympathetic journalists. Eventually, that utter devastation of infrastructure led to the death of the high-value, high-status target, whose name was Pablo Escobar. >That’s what I’m really scared of. Killing like that, on repeat. It’s my nightmare scenario. I know it’s unlikely. But — and this is the stupidest part of this whole thing — after 2016, I’m a little superstitious, and I’m wary of omens. >The shadowy group that unleashed carnage on Pablo Escobar’s Institutions had a name. >They were known as Los Pepes.
Jonathan Stewart
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Julian Adams
Bump. Really good read
Carter Rivera
Sup Forums is moving too fast today
Carter Taylor
I am greatly enjoying this thread.
10/10, I do want to murder every fucking leftist in the country.
Noah Harris
Bumping also, good read. It's really note worthy the differences between the left and right in their tactics. Right violence really is frowned upon, and lefty violence is acceptable because you are using the correct behaviour. It's interesting how that works.
Samuel Edwards
bumping for some good shit, hoping for audiobook
David Jones
>Los Pepes
Great
David Green
bumping to, will read this book
Ian Ramirez
Good read OP, will get book
Andrew Edwards
Bump,this is really some quality shit buta all the trash threads are getting bumped up,the absolute stat of Sup Forums.
Bentley Edwards
Bump, great read. In a way, it's somewhat reassuring that we've gone through similar times without the world ending, but I dunno. In the information age, organization is much different, and 'destruction of property' takes on a whole new meaning
Stay safe
Carter Hughes
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Logan Wilson
Bump, articles been posted before but should be posted for anyone who hadn't read it.
Nolan Cook
one last bump
Charles Scott
This. The left has forgotten so much. They don't even see at which stage we are. The Right is not just the counter culture any more. It is main stream. And the right is known to purge, not burning cars. America is ready for a real civil war, with the left and its minorities being what they are, minorities.
Ian White
Just a small head up faggot, your appeal to rationality and comparing oranges with lead bullets will not change anything. Overtone window has shifted world wide. The left is in for a wild ride after they burnt the centre with SJWism and cuckservatists. Fuck off with your book
Andrew Wood
remember the stuff at the site you posted originated as tweets just read the site linked in the post if any one wants I can find the original tweets
So, this is retarded. Does anyone think our foreign enemies will leave us alone if we spiral into civil war? Now that we ACTUALLY have all 3 branches of government, you want to weaken our position and prevent the legitimate use of political power?
The only reason that makes sense is if you are a democrat and want to disrupt this administrations legitimate rule.
I don't know if you guys are shills, dems, or actually retarded. It could also be that you're baked alaska tier larping faggots. Whatever it is, this shit will blow over by the next news cycle and you'll be left yanking your dick to fantasies of judge dredd irl.
Sebastian Perez
Putting it on the reading list.
Have a bump
Dylan Fisher
If anything, the center seemed more right-wing in the '70s than now, just look at the Death Wish movies. Of course, they were more more like today's magapedes: >muh based Puerto Ricans that just want the violence to stop Meanwhile, I had breakfast with my dad, who told me about last night's riot. "They're just a vocal minority, no one I know would ever be a part of a KKK rally like that"
"We" don't have all three branches, we have Trump and a bunch of neocons. It's still unknown if they can make any progress together.
Nicholas Jenkins
Yeah this was an excellent article explaining the history of left wing terrorism and violence.
Some of the stuff I never even knew about.
Matthew Green
>"We" don't have all three branches, we have Trump and a bunch of neocons. It's still unknown if they can make any progress together
Waaaaaah, politics is slow and messy I WANT A WHITE ETHNOSTATE NOOOOOOOOW
that's what you sound like.
Everyone knows that we have to weed out the bad eggs in the senate and demolish the bureaucracy. That's going to take time and more than one election. And guess what? They're going to fight back to maintain their grip on power and livelihoods.
This spencer shit is literal psy-op propaganda to associate trump with white supremacy in the eyes of independents and moderates (the left already believes this so there is no reason to convince them). Virginia was a play where both sides were paid by the same people.
Thomas Clark
Emarketing is a bannable offense Post the damn pdf or fug off
Dominic Williams
Yes, I know. It's much easier to read in the format on that website though. Also the book and that guy's tweets are not the same thing. You probably realize that, but some people don't; case in point...
If I had the pdf I would post it, but I have the physical copy. It's a great book, but you don't need it to enjoy the original link (which contains no direct excerpts from the book), or don't click the link and read the parts of it I copied here in this thread, or as someone else pointed out, read the original goddamn tweets if you want.
Calling this emarketing is retarded though.
Cooper Edwards
Book shill detected
Charles Nguyen
bump also mehr
William Lopez
Just thought of something Are you the same guy who made those threads based on quotes of the lives of people like McVeigh, Hitler, Goebbels, Kaczynski and such?
Andrew Flores
Bump
Adam Thompson
Not familiar with the thread, but it sounds interesting. Do you have a 4plebs link?
My silenced AK-47 is on deck. The moment civil war begins, it's killing time.
Isaac Lopez
>tfw waiting for Hearing Act of 2017 so I don't have to get an NFA license
Anthony Jackson
The right underground has developed a superior rhetorical strategy (I'm not sure how either) in the last 25 years. I saw this with the gun rights debate long before I was pro white.
Instead of doing a bunch of boneheaded attacks on (((them))) the right needs to keep up its push to educate normal whites about white communities and why those are not immoral to defend.
Break that wall before you break the other walls and you will have the army you seek. Challenge every man who wants to join you to write his own take on the movement and put it out in public. (That will tell you fast if he is useful, stupid or a traitor.)
Those of you who must fight should focus on the (((Master Level))) before anyone else, unless your life is in eminent danger. Jewish Master Minds and White Traitor Enforcers are your two biggest threats BY FAR. Take care of them first. Do not engage them on their terms, engage them on yours. Do not telegraph your blows against them. Maintain the element of surprise. If you want to win, that is.
