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Can we agree to drop the 88 from 14 88.

Lets face it, no normie is going to take us seriously if where hailing to Hitler. They don't know what we know, and they are going to think we are monsters.

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oy vey shalom

Yup. Subtlety and finesse isn't something 99% of people understand. You can't just force people to eat giant red pills. It's really a joke the way we're approaching it. Really, what was need is more people like Jared Taylor, and less people like Richard Spencer.

Why I am under the impression that you are the autistic leaf who keeps shilling for the fucking nazis on this board.

99% of Sup Forums is just 88 without the 14

14 without 88 is like salad without the dressing.

Yes, leafy greens are important, and salad dressing is a little unhealthy. But it tastes bland without it.

Can we agree fuck off kike shill.

With 88 pushed back into the mainstream it creates more visibility for the truth

the hitler salutes and swastikas and shit are just so fucking cringeworthy and autistic. I essentially agree with national socialism but these niggers are fucking retardedly stupid to do this shit.
Get rid of all the genx and boomer from the movement, they are out of touch and drag us down.
I'm not cucking, it's just gay to use imagery and symbolism associated with the third riech in 2017.

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Can someone explain the 1488 thing? I don't get it

OY VEY HOW DARE YOU FORGET ABOUT NATIONAL SOCIALISM THIS IS ANOTHER DRESDEN!

As long as the left lets its commies march around with stalinist flags; and associates itself with smelly hippies and naked feminists, they are united and stronger than us.

We can't turn away our people, no matter how much of an embarassment they are because we are their franchise. We are the voice of the people everyone else says shouldn't have one. And for that, they are the more loyal than any teenage trendoid who only joined because of his favorite twitter maymay.

>what is google

14: We must secure the existence of our people and a future or white children. (14 words)
88: Heil Hitler (HH, 8th letter of alphabet)

14 = The Fourteen Words "We must secure our existance and a future for white children"
88 = Heil Hitler

Do you see the problem now.

Just larp's

14 = white nationalism
88 = national socialism

Except to cucks and leftists, there is literally no difference between the two. (Because there is not). You cannot separate yourself from Hitler's legacy, you can only embrace it and own it.

88 as a Hitler reference is totally off base from the original intention. That's just what white trash neo-"nazis" think it is.

It really refers to the 88 precepts, part of a paper written by the guy who coined 14/88 as a term.

The 88 stands for the 88 tenets of a successful civilisation

Because you spend to much time here

Please do drop the 88 you alt right faggot. Please kill yourself while you're at it as well.

There's nothing wrong with liking AH, but shouting about it like a retard isn't going to get us anywhere.

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>Can we agree to drop the 88 from 14 88.
>Lets face it, no normie is going to take us seriously if where hailing to Hitler.

you're supposed to go around saying 420 blaze it in reference to Hitler's birthday and him burning people's corpses

420 blaze it!

How may of these threads do you have to make? I've seen 5 of them today. Give up and get a real job.

Nazi LARPers don't actually want nationalism.

14 - 'We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children' (14 words)
88 - 'Heil Hitler' (HH)

The fourteen words are, taken on their own, relatively unoffensive to anyone who isn't a completely mentally fucked social justice warrior, but because they were first popularized by supremacist organizations like The Order, the AB, and Stormfront who go out of their way to associate anything vaguely ethnocentrist with Nazism, it's gotten a bad rep.

The biggest hurdle for ethnocentrism in the United States is all the fucking Nazi larpers. They create an abysmal image problem that the MSM has no problem exploiting to discredit legitimate ethnocentrist movements.

1488 gas the kikes racewar now

>Can we agree to drop the 88 from 14 88.
You're welcome to make any concession you'd like to make to (((them))) including disavowing Hitler.
I happen to think he did nothing wrong so I won't be doing the same.

the family in malcom in the middle was the epitome of dysfunctional

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Don't larp as nazis if you don't even know the fucking basics.

Let's not and say we did.

cuck fuck off

You can't seperate them, why? Because just 14 already triggers the shit out of the modern leftist/liberal. You don't even have to add the 88 yourself, you already get the 88 label by wanting 14. It really doesn't matter at all.

>99% of Sup Forums is just 88 without the 14
Of course, because I can produce white babies when I stick my dick into the CPU fan or shitpost online. The 14 is usually made offline, if your are not one of these weird new 5000 genders that is.

"Of course, because anyone who doesn't like Hitler is a crypto jew. And I need to expose my JIDFADL papers because no rational person can't be nazi."

Pleaase kill your self.

>88: Responsible for the deaths of millions of Jews, Communist, and Euro/American soldiers and fought to the death
>88 Larpers: Drives a car into a crowd of AIDS spreading ANTIFA and want to quit immediately

Really makes you think.

I can support this

This should be renamed to ''what the jew fears'' vs ''what no one fears''

If this isn't done, the entire movement is a lost cause. This isn't 1930s Germany, stop spouting this stupid shit and losing all public appeal.

Not inherently a bad idea; I myself see little value in natsoc. But I fear this is inspired by muh Charlottesville. If so, remember that cucking never works. If you disavow the alt-right because of the car of peace you are letting yourself be brought into the frame that the alt-right are violent and antifa dindu nuffin. Moreover, the left will always support their violent activists and if we don't defend ours, we help create a system where leftwingers can attack rightwingers, but rightwingers can't do anything back.

Nice try, Shlomo.

Why should we water down our message for normalfags? It's not like they won't consider us nazis either way

Fucking SCRUBS

88 DOES NOT STAND FOR HEIL HITLER, THAT IS JEWISH SUBVERSION

it standa for the 88 Precepts. Fucking searx.com it you fucking idiots.

14 can fuck off.
88 is where all the memes are at kek willing.

So many triggered Nasocs with Just one image.

Why do you think the 14 will be taken any differently? Normies equate any sort of openly stated agenda to promote the interests of white people as identical with being a nazi. It's not like you can say:
>Oh, I don't want to gas the jews, I just want a whites only ethnostate
And have normies respond positively to that.

enlighten us then confederfag

the second you go soft is the second you lose
look a t mudslim they are completely unapologetic even when they are responsible for 99% of terror attack, event when westerner dies they blame the west

we have one argument that no other group have, we have the truth with us
"Hitler was right" isn't just a meme it's the truth the man saw the future and pretty much all he predicted is happening

i know normies are brainwashed now and it's almost impossible for them to change their opinion on him if we compromise on Hitler we compromise on the truth and thus destroy our only argument

Then you don't actually have a winning plan. You will never succeed. You're either a leftist infiltrator or someone the rest of us need to get rid of to advance the movement.

I did, idiot.

>"Of course, because anyone who doesn't like Hitler is a crypto jew."
Total Jew reply.
Do you get my point though, "we" can't drop the 88 because the 88 is voluntary, as is the 14. You're welcome to drop the 88 or never embrace it to begin with, just as I'm free to do the opposite.
I believe in what I believe in because I think its the truth, and that truth being hard to sallow doesn't change my views on it. That's what the left does.

Have you ever been with a bitch for a while? The relationship is like that. We must never fight back, and always be the better man

Sorry it is searx.me not .com

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READ THE PRECEPTS, STOP HEILING SAVE IN YOUR HOME

hitler was a retarded faggot

save white people

its that simple

I'm not a National Socialist.

But you know that, Shlomo. That white pride emblem doesn't fool me.

This is what groups like Identity Evropa are already doing. They're building a new aesthetic. It's unfortunate that some of the low IQ people that the far right attracts don't understand that this is the way to go.

I got you, I just posted the link here

It's both you idiot.

And with 'defend' I don't mean encourage cars of peace, I mean not letting the media frame him as a terrorist if he was getting attacked and panicked or something.

No, it is not, kike.

hitler was fag. HH should meam heil Horthy, Horthy literally did nothing wrong. He even wrestled couple of hitlerist fools in theatre when they attacked him, he was in his 70ies. Also Franco was good boy.

1) I'd argue that despite their minor dysfunctions, the family from Malcolm in the Middle is a healthy one. The parents clearly have a stable, comfortable relationship, and the kids (despite getting into trouble occasionally) are relatively well-rounded, happy individuals.

2) Do you have any idea how hard it is to find examples of happy, nuclear, white families in modern media?

This.

The conservatives in this country have played the "kinder, gentler" bullshit since the end of WWII. And have been slowly losing ground every since.

The time for kid gloves is over with.

Yeah, let's have a nice jew/israel friendly white nationalism. Let's let jews take over our movement so this movement can be like every other jew movement. You aren't a lauren southern fan by chance are you OP?

It is far more often associated with Heil Hitler than David Lane's wotanist ideas

>You're either a leftist infiltrator or someone the rest of us need to get rid of to advance the movement.
I'm included in the "us" as are those that think like me. If you get rid of "us" you may start to notice others in your club flock to our side anyway, and you may end up as the one isolated.
We're Nazis, do you really think a bit of press is going to make us change our opinions?

>Less inteligent kids end up getting a job, older one gets is wife the other joins the army
>The other kids get jobs to and move with their lives, each one brighter than the last
>They have 5 sons, all barons, gifted in music, maths, sports, making food
>They are poor, but some moral standarts
>Mom and dad are united as fuck

Enjoy living in your own private autistic universe where meanings everyone else recognizes don't exist because you don't like them.

You're talking about the Republican party, which is controlled opposition. You will not gain anyone from the left or middle by going further right.

Yeah it is possible to want to save the white race without resurrecting a shiity 2-bit ideology.

This. The left is going to accuse us of being Nazi's anyways, so we might as well take the weight out of it by embracing it, showing no weakness/remorse.

In my experience when you show you have something to hide people drive at that weakness until they create a fission in your personality, one separating you from true domination mentality.

Someone explain to me this 14 88 thing and why you believe Hitler cared about "white" people instead of german volk.

I'm talking about American conservatism in general. The state of the Republican Party and the rise of Buckley's neocons are just symptoms of the disease. Not the disease itself.

Going hard right is the only way we are going to win.

>2) Do you have any idea how hard it is to find examples of happy, nuclear, white families in modern media?

do you have any idea how hard it is to find examples of happy, nuclear families of any ethnicity? do you think people want to watch seventh heaven these days, where dad has a shitfit over a joint? no, because it's not going to make money faggot. that show empire is about a bunch of coons with a gay son and a bunch of retarded drama, every show is stupid and/or funny drama because stable normal families aren't entertaining to watch.

>commie teen
>making fun of anyone's ideas

Go back to the playground kiddo.

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who cares about hitler? he's not american and he and his imagery are irrelevant to american politics

14 can be applied to any white populace, 88 (regardless of its original meaning) refers to hitler and has no place in an american White Nationalist movement. Not just because it's impossible to change the mass's views on hitler, but also because Hitler is irrelevant to American identity

How about:

Whether you like it or not, the Nazi flag and Nazism are immediately stigmatized by anyone who isn't super red pilled. If NatSoc is going to be legit, it needs to be completely rebranded.

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Dont sweat it too much. You are monsters already. Might as well be overtly nazi, it helps clarify who you are.

If you want to turn someone's brain on, shock them a little with something that will withstand scrutiny.

fuck you, coward

14/88

>if someone revises history and everyone is goodwinked you have to accept it

Again, fuck off kike.

fuck off, nigger

National Socialism is an option because of the strong symbolism. It's strong because it still resonates with people today, decades after the fall of the Third Reich. And the Left still fears it.

No other ideology in the 20th Century has had that kind of power or legacy.

So? That doesn't make them correct.

If 10000 people told you that 2+2 = 5, you'd agree just because 2+2 is "far more often associated with 5 than 4".

Hoodwinked*

Because we are at a global level of white vs other warfare. Welcome to the modern world.

Going hard right is the only way you could possibly fuck everything up for the right. We've been winning because the left has been going hard left.

There are two vectors to focus on. Tangible results as well as the overton window. Keep this in mind.

Psyop thread. Sage

Anybody slightly right of Marx is "literally Hitler" in the minds of the 21st Century left.

But nice try, Eurocuck.

Hi rabbi

can one of you wh*te boi tell me what 1488 means

Why not just say One-Four?
I'll show you One-Four!
Give em One-Four!

>why you believe Hitler cared about "white" people instead of german volk.
That's a valid point. We could argue all day about how he felt about these whites or those but I'm willing to concede your point and say he only cared about German Volk.
The 14 wasn't invented by Hitler, it was invented by pro-whites, and the 88 isn't so much to say Hitler wanted to save all whites, but rather Hitler showed how whites could and should live and what they should work towards as a people. That and of course the fact that he was right about the jews, whom ultimately are against all whites, so it makes sense to unite as "white" even though Hitler may have not considered all whites the same.

Shut the fuck up you kike. Your little campaign isn't going to work. 1488

Modern day nazis are fat alcoholic degenerates who have tattoos anyways, they're basically a gang of whites acting like blacks

The point of the 88 part is not to bring back the 3rd reich. The point is to throw off the yoke of the white guilt that fear of being called a nazi is an example of. All this anti-nazi stuff happening right now is an attempt to go back to where we have to tippy toe around everything in fear of being called a nazi. Also, it's an attempt to push towards a jew/israel friendly white nationalism. I agree that we shouldn't adopt third reich imagery in public, but this anti-nazi stuff is of the jew.

>nothing wrong
>still lost
Really makes you think

Portugal is not white hahahahahahahah

>>nothing wrong
>>still lost
Is it morally wrong to lose a war?

leafs are a jewish psyops