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Plan A or Plan B?

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Plan B is Plan A under a different guise.
Not to mention the comic is biased, like all the others.

>report these threads

why? Because I disagree with you?

Jared Taylor's tactics > Richard Spencer's tactics

Stop fucking posting this, this is the stupidest thing I have seen on this site and I have seen a lot of fucking stupid things

There is no choice, nor any personal input.
Overall 2/10 at least you put something in the text field.

Plan a is for people who see things past face value

I think the autistic tiki march will only make people distance themselves more from the alt-right

Just like commies used to do show of force events way back when, it only hurt their image because most liberals were not communist

It's worth mentioning announcing reports is also against the rules whIle this thread breaks none

Honestly, so many natsoc posters have such a stick up their ass

If I was breaking the rules I would have over 1000 bans.

The mods (as the sticky said if you would read it) want high quality discussion, which comes from high quality threads.

are you new to Sup Forums?

Plan A

The alt-lite won trump the election. Alex Jones, PJW, Lauren Southern

The alt-right were the ones who gave the media ammo. David Duke's endorsement was damaging

The "autistic" tiki march didn't do any damage, the only damage done over the weekend was because of the half jew autist who ran that fat chick over.

Bump

Larping isn't high quality discussion

The entire election, conservatives fought against the narrative of them being nazis.

Even then, the vote was split almost 50-50. Shit like this only gives a better stranglehold to the media over the other half and even on some moderates

This.

The only guy who explicitly says he is pro white who does any good is Jared Taylor the rest of them are all faggots and we are better off without them.

Oh what's up Reddit?
I wonder when that wall is gonna be built
And I love how trump gave us Canada's immigration system can't wait for it
MAGA
BASED PEPE

Plan A is better but why did you edit Trump and Spencer out of the meme (and also how long each approach was part of politics)?

Anyone who thinks Plan B is better is either a retard or shill or a retard.

this is just stupid

Holy shit thank you

Jared Taylor is so amazingly eloquent and polite that it makes people find difficulty in hating him.

>If people want to mix, God bless 'em, but generally they just don't want to

While you have Spencer doing an interview with two celebrities and he says "faggy" expecting it'll bolster his argument.

Plan B has accomplished nothing so are you a shill or a retard?

Alt-Lite Trump has already largely stopped Hispanic population growth.

just fucking take your guns and start killing blacks

>democrats still salty their shitty candidate didnt win and trying to justify why they are so terrible

Not a bad meme

it's a terrible meme. the white population wont grow by 1%, they will literally just be stonewalled in congress like every other conservative lmao

See, what my perspective is is that people like (((shapiro))) has more potential to bring people to the right by using facts and good debate tactics.

The facts he uses appear politically neutral.

He outright says black males commit more crimes and can use facts to argue for border security.

However, when you have people saying border security is destroying the white race, you associate border security with racial supremacy (in the minds of normies), making them sink deeper into leftist dogma rather than having an open mind.

tl;dr the alt-right needs to learn to appeal to moderates rather than circlejerking and appealing only to themselves.

>another "let's forget jews exist and we can easily fool the masses to do what we want with these totally brilliant plans with totally no glaring flaws" thread

Here we go again.

the masses instantly think that any criticism against Jews is social suicide

since when did Sup Forums support the alt right? we are white nationalists

this. this logic of "lets use propaganda and we will infiltrate them all" is good in moderation, no harm there. But when you use it as your sole strategy you are being autistic and denying reality.

It tooks jews/communists what? 60-80 years to infiltrate our systems and start mass converting people and they were up against nearly no opposition bar HUAC and the 1920s? communist purge in the US, and they were nearly masters of propaganda considering they just invented it, or at least coined it.

Now if we had to do this, we'd need to become master propagandists, while fighting master propagandists, which could take 60-80 years, when the white race will be a plurality in the us (minority when all the races unite) by 2042.

This logic of we will outjew the jew 100% ez pz is stupid.

What do you think the average conservative thinks when he sees people seig heiling and claiming to represent the right-wing of the united states?

You aren't answering anything I put there.

I don't like (((Shapiro))) not because hes jewish but because during the election he proved himself to be a snake...

The guy we need back (yeah I know hes an attention whoring fag at heart but it doesn't matter) from Gamergate, to the Trump election to the Dangerous Faggot tour he built the real effective alt-right (ie non stormfags) from a bunch of pissed off young male gamers into the movement that got Trump elected and always made the left look terrible, always made the right look and heroic and always made it so the media had no effective narrative.

Luckily his redemption arc from the phony pedophile charge (when he never molested anyone at least he hasn't been accused of it) is in full swing.

Your premise is that average people will see actual Natsocs marching with torches and shouting Nazi slogans and go "wow, they sure do represent me!"

Most conservatives are proudly alt-lite who had to keep disproving the media narrative of them being actual Nazis and Trump's victory meaning Nazis were coming for the leftists

Well fuck me then, must have been wrong.
Trips don't lie

LOL I forgot to include his name... we need Milo back.

This isn't even a super new meme
Did some alt-right fag find it and spam it to justify his big tent cuckery?

Ok, you are still not addressing anything I put there. You can ignore it, but it won't happen like you think it will.

It's the jews that are plotting against us. They are masters on swaying the masses to do everything they want.

You think you can trick the kikes into just letting us follow a pro-white policy?

You think they won't instantly know the true intentions of any kind of agenda and won't take measures against anything they don't like? They are aces on stuff like this.

Ben Shapiro is a sharp guy

I think you should consider the possibility that he pretended to not back Trump to give the illusion of being more moderate.

In doing that, he could appeal to moderates more rather than them seeing him as a 'Trump guy' and ignoring any of his debates/lectures, they'd see him as a 'Prominent conservative who criticizes Trump'.

tl;dr 4d chess

>big tent cuckoldry
NO ENEMIES ON THE RIGHT SHILL NIGGER

Nice trips. Leave now, and stay out

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> Lets forget all the effective stuff we did to get Trump elected and go back to Nazi larping again because we are stormfag retards.

You faggots actually (other then federal agent David Duke) managed to keep some degree of discipline during the election but you now want to go back to nazi larping again. WTF is wrong with you.

you have no idea how to discuss things. Again, you think you can skip the propaganda aspect and you can't

most conservatives hate you

Where did I say we should go back to nazi larping? Literally all I said is that it's unrealistic to think you are going to change the mass opinion at all.

Stop looking in the mirror and raise your head up high enough so you can't see your nub when you go take a leak and maybe you won't be such a bitter and childish little bitch.

Plan C: Offer total control to a coalition of Presbyterian, Episcopalian, United Church of Christ, and Unitarian Universalist clergy.

I can forgive Cruzlims who came around after the primaries fine.

I can't forgive people who didn't support Trump during the general election I will regard them as traitors until the day they die.

Cool bud, if you weren't blind you'd see that I said propaganda is fine. Have fun """""cutting taxes and reducing immigration""""" just to find out that the democrats in congress will stonewall any plan you have, look at the Tom Cotton shit recently lmao.

we're the majority in Congress

Fuck off autcap I will defend my interests whether they coincide with your liberal capitalist fantasy or not

He's controlled op you dipshit
>see conservative goyim, we're actually on your side!

And? Most republicans still support mass immigration for dat free migration. There are enough conservatives who have the same shitty idea to keep those same type of conservatives afloat in congress to block these types of anti-immigration bills.

free low skilled labor* not migration

I know my uncle Yuri too and I know that in general "demoralized" brainwashed leftists suffer from religious thinking and generally cannot be saved.

What I'm saying is that normies who aren't SJWs can be brought further and further right if you stay away from the explicit NS and WN stuff which tends to make them run screaming in the other direction.

And yes Spencer's stunt was a return to the bad old days of nazi larping.

So true. I'm glad you summarized this in an infographic. This very thing has been on my mind for a day now. It's amazing that a bunch of people who know so much about Jewsih subversion have learned NOTHING from their observations.

You don't state your intentions explicitly.
You DO pursue specific outcomes under the guise of popular morality.
You don't copy national socialism word-for-word, and symbol-for-symbol.
You DO invent a whole new language and angle to convey the same old idea.

take pride in the fact you're actually smart and can see details past face value

Sure, I never said we can't improve our optics. But to larp and "act" like conservatives to get elected and then enact immigration bills to lower non-white immigration is unrealistic. As seen in literally every fucking decade when its brought up.

Yes congress has thwarted Trump on legislation (the GOPe traitors are going to be primaried). Hes still managed to massively cut illegal immigration and slow legal immigration by a significant factor by administrative means.

As such stormfag larping is still not justified.

Stormfag larping is just like hard drugs, just say no.

Sources on him slowing legal immigration? I know he has brought down some mexican immigration due to his rhetoric, but that doesn't really matter when the white population isn't increasing by anything. We have the SLIGHT immigration bonus now at 51-52%? and thats great if there was nearly no immgration, but its not. The white population will continue to decrease and there won't be a solution any time soon, sad but true most likely.

Plan A isn't impossible, all it takes is for people to turn off the jew box and stop listening the the shrieking kikes

Which won't happen.

You can either deal with the world as it actually is... or deal with the world as you wish it was. It's the whole difference between successful and unsuccessful action.

As Scott Adams says slow moving disasters rarely turn out to be disasters. The Hispanic birthrate has also cratered they aren't all having 12 kids anymore. Give Trump some time, hes done a lot of good already. Once immigration is handled more thoroughly (after the next round of primaries) you'll see gradual shifts of white population increase.

Also the Hispanics will become more like Texas Hispanics (who tend to act white) then California Hispanics (who are cancer).

hip hip fucking hooray, we are only letting in 8,000 illegals a day instead of 12,000. its just like the deficit. so we are only adding 19billion a day to the debt instead of 25billion. but what about the 20trillion principal?

You have to stop inmigration, but that means closing part of the world for you too.

Things aren't simple as it seems and you can't have plan A without plan B.

>hip hip fucking hooray, we are only letting in 8,000 illegals a day instead of 12,000.

Hey leftypol faggot its more like 2000 a day coming in now vs 4000 fleeing voluntarily.

i wish

I ... I am saying basically what you are saying.

Hey man, if I'm proven wrong that's great. But time has proven that I most likely won't be. If the RAISE act passes, I will say you are 100% correct, but it has an 8% chance.

I will say that you are probably wrong to think that primaries will be anything but terrible for the GOP. The senate will remain conservative, but the house will flip most likely, and again the crazy GOPe will still remain in places, will be ousted in others.

I do think you underestimate the loyalty to the GOP and their spending. I've never said propaganda won't work, but thinking you are gonna outspend or outjew the top spenders or jews, is just wrong.

misrepresenting your opposition doesn't make your argument better.

I also think you are right and wrong on the texas hispanic thing. Texas is turning blue daily I would like to point out, possibly going blue by the next pres election. But I will say the gen z has popped up Mexican male popularity for trump by 6% but I think it ruined his mexican female popularity by a shitton. I don't know man

Democracy is what got us into this mess in the first place.

arizona may go blue sometime soon, but it will take decades to even makes Texas purple.

meanwhile, michigan, going red, ohio going red, wisconsin going red, soon minnesota going purple, illinois going purple

Almost all single women are communists since they just listen mainly to each other and the media, minority ones more so. We also need to fix the marriage problem...

As a neoreactionary I agree Democracy sucks too, doesn't mean you should larp in a way that only helps our enemies while said Republic/Democracy exists.

1st of all get rid of that flag, normies are coming here more then ever now. OPTICS OPTICS OPTICS.

(((civic nationalist)))

Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, etc will continue to be pushed blue because of demographics. They switched in this election as a last die cast bcause of the jobs issue. If Trump betrays them, whether intentional or through getting fucked over by the GOPe, he will lose them. The reason why MI, OH, WI, MN, and even IL to a degree can swtich from red to blue and back again are because they are white. They aren't stuck on gibs so they dont HAVE to vote for democrats to continue their living.

Again, I hope you are correct but I don't think so.

You are so wrong.

>(((civic nationalist)))

Yes the kind that works politically.

no I am from illinois originially. it is stil 80% white, they just all vote democrat because they are suburban cucks. wisconsin, michigan, minnesota are even more white

Anyone who believes in plan B just wants to feel pure, orthodox, hardcore, dedicated, unwavering etc. No pragmatism. The 14/88 approach is actually self-destructive because it reassures the leftist's narrative and gives them more reason to crack down on speech. You'll scare away centrists, and they'll go to the left because they'll think that Nazis are literally about to start gassing everyone - which will be much more believable if you start talking about how much you love Adolf Hitler.
This is why alt-centrists have done so much more for our cause than fascists, national socialists, race realists etc. They are more popular, they can reach more people and they are far more convincing. Did you come here because you saw statistics proving the prevalence of AIDS among homosexuals? No, you saw some video about retarded feminists. You saw some transsexual freak and wanted to talk about how disgusting they were. So you moved to the right a little bit. That's how we win Gen Z. Slowly and surely.

>1st of all get rid of that flag, normies are coming here more then ever now. OPTICS OPTICS OPTICS.
Eat shit and die, tourist. You're never going to get good optics when your enemies control the media.

Looks at this fag he doesn't even loves Hitler.

youtube.com/watch?v=_1vZ8LnZWCw

depends on who you say its working for. working for tyrone and pedro? yes. working for white people no.

if you can't break the kike stranglehold on national politics, media and education then there is no other way. if you can then plan A can work

I said that first part. I agree that those places are still white, and they are democrat too. They are voting red for mainly job reasons (rust belt) lesser so MN and WI though id say. Some are probably voting for other reasons, immigration or white flight? fragility? idk the right word.

But yes, there are a lot of whites that are voting democrat because they are cucked by the university systems because thats most of the democrats that are white.

Unfortunately, many people on Sup Forums are underage, nihilistic, edgy, or just plain stupid, and are therefore unable or unwilling to see the truth to this image.

I like how you can denounce any argument by making the opposition seem stupid. Cool shit man, I hope those conservatives in Canada can win the long haul by .. handing the country over to the Chinese... ah!

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Plan A obviously. Those who don't get it are either LARPers or mentally and emotionally incapacitated like those deranged leftards.
No sane person would join a cause from a screeching autist.

And this.

Wasn't Sup Forums made of natsoc and right wing people in general?

Plan A. Of course I'm not racist, I just want to make sure that immigration policy benefits all Americans & doesn't hurt the working class.

have you seen how fucked illinois is financially? my parents pay like 10K a year in property taxes. they own the house yet they are making mortgage payments on it. I never thought they would leave because they are boomers cucked beyond belief but now even they are talking about moving to florida

Plan B is just a liberal trying to sabotage plan A.

Fucking this. Thank you.

Plan A is the same piece of shit pipe dream you cock-sucking """conservatives""" have been clinging to for fifty goddamn years. Every election cycle you cum-guzzling retards get had and every election cycle you fall for the same old shuck and jive from con artists like Paul Ryan.

You stupid fuck. The only reason plan B exists and is considered is because for nearly 50 years we've been trying to do plan A with no success. Plan A is obviously the logical choice in a fair system, but the (((system))) is tremendously unfair and corrupt making plan A impractical. Pull your head out of your ass.

That doesn't make plan b any more viable.

Whoa peaceful left everyone.

>Also the Hispanics will become more like Texas Hispanics (who tend to act white) then California Hispanics (who are cancer).
Texas Hispanics are the buffer state to a Hispanic take over of the south. There are already places in Houston you can't work at unless you speak Spanish.

Sup Forums is too njw to understand and will shit post this thread out of not being able to understand.
Have you notice these autist who want plan b are basically commies in nature?