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Listen Sup Forums. The rally was a shitshow with a few bread-and-circus positives.

I like seeing Antifa get anally devastated, and your low-hanging fruit liberal tears, but it's not progress at all. It's just a scene to watch while you eat popcorn.

You know what this all was? Controlled opposition fighting a controlled opposition.

This is Charlottesville Virginia, not San Francisco. Antifa aren't a thing in such a place where gun laws aren't like California, and yet they're somehow there, along with a bunch of out-of-place hipsters. Meanwhile, the Unite The Right group is nothing but a celebrity lineup like a rock concert or a Coachella festival. Pic 100% related.

I don't trust this group, as much as I'd like to see a right-wing America with less nigger rats and illegals. You have prominent figures with media spotlights, the KKK which are known to have FBI agents, the NSM of America which are known to be bussed into places, cherry-picked with ugly people, just like Antifa, and all kinds of red flags.

It's like I'd have to start my own independent movement to weed out who's a covert agent and shill and who's not. If I were to hold a rally, I'd have the following to prove it's not controlled or based and holding integrity:

>No E-celebs or prominent media figures and speakers, meaning Lauren Southern, Richard Spencer, Baked Alaska, or even Styx would be barred from attending.

>Labelled as Anti-Communist, but NOT in the name of Trump, meaning the movement is NOT a pro or anti-Trump movement. Trump is IRRELEVANT in the rally. This is to show if Antifa show up on their own free will, it's not a controlled shit show, much like the Free Speech rally where a bunch of MAGA and Kekistani faggots showed up.

>No KKK or NSM or America. Both groups are KNOWN to be undercover and staged groups. Either FBI and CIA agents, or rednecks given a few hundred bucks to LARP. (Rednecks deliberately picked to slander NatSoc movements)

Yes, I've been copying and pasting for hours.

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that rally was a set up by the deep state you fucking faggot

the mayor pulled his book of tricks, the CIA did the hitjob

12th of August is George Soros birthday, get a grip you fucker, we got played

Here's the rally/march flyer. It looks like a fucking band advertisement for a lineup. A lineup of who? E-celebs, CIA agents, and god know's what else.

If you took out the skinheads, the redneck nazis, the KKK, the FBI, the CIA, the YouTubers, the Kekistanis, the car crash, and the MAGA faggots, but left disciplined, old-fashioned "nazis" and a uniformed march, I would give ZERO shits if the mainstream majority push slander out their buttholes, because a disciplined opponent (their opponents) would be viewed 100% differently, if not feared, and maybe even respected. I guarantee it by my grandmother's grave.

>Deep state

Tell me in your words who they are and who's part of it.

I actually have an even better idea than a march or your typical rally. In order to defeat the Jew, you must reverse-engineer their schemes.

In the west coast, especially California's San Francisco Bay Area, the rave scene is flourishing in multiple counties with drugs, Antifa, rape, bribery, you name it, but what is even more important is how a genre called psytrance is very popular.

But what is psytrance? Why that specific genre of electronic music? You see, that genre is known to cause people to go into trance-like states, and the occult is also heavily intertwined. An event is like one giant ritual, and every little detail from the beats, written medleys, sound frequencies, light patterns, even the decorations and their placements are important for inducing these ritualistic trances.

Even if you hate the genre, or ignore the music at an event and walk around, your subconscious is still tapped. It's like a commercial on TV. The flashing lights, the sounds, the frequencies, etc. still affect people, even if they absolutely hate commercials and don't want to buy anything.

People under these trances do lots of stupid shit, sometimes psychotic. Now, imagine how hundreds if not thousands of people at an event become subverted. Biggest red pill? Psytrance is VERY popular in Israel and most artists of that genre are from there.

So, why bring this up? Reverse-engineer it. Use the same methods to promote National Socialism. Decor, frequencies, lights, etc. An event disguised to normies , and they leave feeling volkisch, quitting drugs, wanting kids, etc. For shits and giggles, put rune stones and subtle 3rd Reich stuff.

Congratulations. Money made, people red-pilled, and actual lives changed. Immediate results compared to a march.

I also have other ideas if one were to take the typical march or rally approach.

Imagine a group that is against Antifa and pro volkisch valuesm but you don't immediately say you're nationalist or "nazi". Essentially, you bait them on the defensive. If they react, they can't use certain things against you, because YouTubers, speakers, bikers, rednecks, KKK, etc. were not present.

In the SF area, Antifa are known to be heavily involved in drug trade, selling to minors, statutory rape, squatting, drug abuse, vandalism, assault, etc. and are harmful to communities. Make a demonstration merely opposing them for just that, and they'll eventually have to be labelled as a terror group, thus ending them forever. Note that this information about them had little to do with their protests. This is the shit they do on the weekends.

Imagine another scenario. A group known as "Traditionalists" dress up as knights, and act disciplined, serious, and showing uniformity, as if they were serious. Anyone bitching calling them oppressors, mean, nazis, etc. just end up looking dumb with no evidence, but the mere fervor brings people like Antifa out of the woodwork and into a trap.

If you're gonna LARP, do it right where people believe you and take you seriously. If not, it's just a clusterfuck like Berkeley allowing (((them))) to sneak in the cracks.

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You don't want to please your opponents, but you want them to respect you, even if they disagree with you. The National Socialists of yesteryear and the neonazis of today show opposing behaviors upon themselves.

Essentially, where I'm going with my idea is if one were to hold a National Socialist rally, they'd have to be disciplined, have a sense of uniform, yet at the same time, be vague.

A bunch of people marching with rectangular Roman-esque shields, officer coats, flags, etc. to instill fear, respect, etc. yet so vague people can't just say "SUPREMACIST NAZI BLAH BLAH BLAH!" Imagine such a mass marching in downtown SF out of nowhere. The general public would have obscure yet fearful feelings from the sight.

Forgot to mention this. With that information about Antifa, people can use this against them, while there'd be little they could use against you. They'd purely be looking bad on their own accord while the new NatSoc group, from being somewhat vague, has nothing against them from such respectable behavior and image.

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We must keep the NatSoc torch burning. Do not give up and let this chaos make you give up.

Don't give up...

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DONT FUCKING DIE

would the OP be interested in creating an informal think-tank for the continued discussion of this agenda? if so.. how can we contact OP when the threads dead?

No capitulation in the face of Jewish terrorism. This is out world.

Crisis Actor
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I'm not comfortable with giving out information like an Email or joining a Discord channel. I should just make a tripcode or something.

Thank you for posting this information. Does anyone have information regarding the REAL driver being a US Army personnel and how the drivers were switched? There's also pics of some guy getting handcuffed on the ground and posts about a link /leftypol/ used to armor up a car.

Where and how would we organize meets? We're rather dispersed after all. We'd need physical meetings. Actual memberships. The beginning of some grassroots movement, or party. Propaganda artists. Speakers. Writers. The whole deal.

well at some point it has to move beyond Sup Forums threads so i mean...

if you make a trip that will work for a while tho :)

two questions:

>whats your position on Jews
>whats your position on Hitler

lol ya fucked up

The alt-right indeed are total faggots. If any of them understood the NatSoc/Fascist worldview, they would have not gone nor joined any of those faggot organizations that went there

We need a true NatSoc group. A radical one that offers zero compromise (so pretty much Ironmarch approved)

I don't know exactly how to rally. It would have to begin very low-key and start with trust. We can't do it like other groups do with flyers and paper like a public advertisement. That gives room for people to infiltrate and target. Eventually, once enough trustworthy people who are tight-knit gain numbers, those numbers would speak for themselves.

On one note, I had an idea for a new aesthetic.

Imagine a uniform vaguely resembling both the waffen and the Romans, but all black. Subtle, yet not outwardly saying "We're National Socialists." Sleek and modern, yet old imperial, but not Star Wars. A tabard, yet an officer's tunic to not look so LARP. So, imagine a solid, minimalist tunic with a carrier vest on top, but no pouches.

The banner? White flag, black logo. An ancient symbol.

Imagine a march with square rectangular shields that incurve but are shiny solid black like a car door. Very modern, yet still retaining that old flavor. Flag bearers would hold them, as weapons are not allowed. Not imagine en-masse people like this.

>that poster
yea this is def a psyop

We NEED to mimic groups like National Action (UK) and Nordic Resistance Movement in America

youtube.com/watch?v=8emvBJTdIoY

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and yet even after stepping over all those eggshells and going through all that effort the jewish media would call you a nazi that wants to kill 6 million jews because your organization is 99% white and/or presents a threat.

>controlled op meme
>13 posts by this ID
Hi shill!

you think it was any difference in the 1930's? the only difference people were more desperate because they were on the brink of starvation. Today this is more about show biz. the only way to change things is to get the message out. no such thing as bad publicity. Our message is the only one based on true principals. The left is based only on moral particularism and identity politics. The longer we have the normies watching the freakshow the bigger chance a seed of doubt gets planted. Once that seed gets planted it is hard to get out

The Alt-Right is not the "message" we want out. It is a message of weakness and literal shit

but we want to unhpynotize people not hypnotize them

i don't know man the alt-right has a pretty good K:D so far

we just want people to think for themselves

I don't think this is going to play out in the streets... yet. normies are still too comfortable. once we get down to like 30-40% white demographically it will be time. but no harm starting practice early

I understand. I just care for my well-being.

>Jews
Don't like them, and don't trust them. I'm sure there are Jews that mean no harm, but for trust reasons, I'd steer clear. Supposedly, they lack a part of the brain that causes empathy, and that they also suffer from neurosis.

Imagine an island popped up out of the Atlantic twice the size of Iceland. It has forests, mountains, coastlines, cities, farmland, etc. and I owned it rightfully, and had dominion over the population. I'd say no Jews allowed, and rightfully so, because it's MY island. It's MY nation. Does it mean I'd go on the offensive? No. Merely the defensive.

You see, when there's a presidency in any nation throughout the world, Israeli and NY Jewish envoys always like to pay a visit to give some sort of proposition as if they're entitled to force them into being "allies" with the Jews. I'd answer the phone and tell them to fuck off, let them whine, and not give a fuck. Like Sup Forums mentions about non-whites. They want gibs from whites yet hate us. They hate us yet migrate to our homelands. They hate us yet want our women. They hate us yet want our luxuries. The list goes on. I'd just tell the Jews to leave us be. They have no claim to my land and people.

>Hitler
I could go on and on. I do know that history distorted a LOT about him. I know he just cared about his people, which is the bottom line.

We need a group with discipline. All these rallies and groups, be they legitimate or staged lack discipline. I think one of these marches would be effective if these people were shown how to march in a formation, act uniform, and ensure there is no deviation from the standard at which they should conduct themselves.

The idea isn't to please your opponents, but make them respect you. People underestimate how effective image and uniformity is on the psyche of your opponents.

This is why you make your movement look somewhat vague. People would have nothing to use against you other than being white, disciplined, etc. and that gives leverage, if not makes them look stupid.

You forgot your gadsen flag.

Hypnotism is how people have influenced others for a millennia, be it for good or bad intentions. And it's not hypnotism per-se. It's reversing damages. Playing the record backward so to speak.

This is why image matters. You show discipline, order, care, etc. to make them naturally respect, if not admire you.

Adding to this.

The Canadians once stopped an Agent Provocateur false flag that way. Three guys started looting and vandalizing during their peaceful protest and they were having none of it. Stopped them and brought them to the police and accused them of trying to start something so the police could attack. After a bunch of denials officials finally caved and admitted they were undercover cops.

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I recall the muslim advance made it all the way to france before the europeans finally rallied and reversed them forever. white people are naturally individualistic and it takes a serious threat to get them to act collectively. that is exactly how the jews take advantage because through the centuries they have learned just how far they can push the western european goyim before triggering a collective response. It is their "tradition"

Don't stop friendo I'm reading the thread

but how do you have a strong people if they are hypnotized slaves? you don't. I suppose there is nothing against using those tactics against your enemy, but why would you ever want to use it on your own people, unless you are somehow slipping them the red pill, but then again don't people have to voluntarily make the decision to be hypnotized or not?

Thanks, buddy.

Like I mentioned before. With the reverse-engineered psytrance, you could essentially push traditionalist views if you wrote the music properly, much like writing code in a computer. You could write between the lines, traditional values, love for your own people, but respect towards others, and the will to improve one's self.

Music is also a science, if not a language, and can be translated mathematically. You could get the scientific formula for what makes fire (forgot the scientific name for formulas) Yes, actual fire, and literally translate it into the language of music. What does it sound like though? Pure passion in the most literal form.

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It's an obvious setu-up!! Notice how the media + verified social media mafia was bashing the "evil white people" within an hour of the attack?


The deep state is trying ANYTHING to kill nationalism+ the right.

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So do you think this deep state also coordinated the rally itself?

kys cucks. Charlottesville exposed the weak terrorist fags that call themselves altright. The whole nation wants you retards dead now. You lost because you promoted autistic violence.

Antifa was there though, in big numbers. You are fucking stupid.

Shut the fuck up shill. Half the posts here belong to you, calling people who stand up for white pride "controlled opposition".

Agreed. Well-dressed, composed, and organized.

But none of that matters if politician shut down evens for no reason and force our people onto the streets with antifa. Then people get run over

I'm not Alt Right.

>Antifa was there
No kidding. I don't like them either. If you're going to stand up for white pride, carry yourself properly. Sort yourself out. Show discipline and honor, and especially integrity.

>But none of that matters if politician shut down evens for no reason and force our people onto the streets with antifa. Then people get run over

This is why you keep relatively vague. You don't just go to the city office and say "Hi. We're National Socialists. I'd like to hold a demonstration"

But even civcucks like Proud Boys or based stickman are called nazis. Everybody is a fucking Nazi

Who knows?
You do know the fbi has propped up these groups right? Alot of these "grand wizard nazi" whatever fucks are informants.


The crazy thing is that the police set up pens and antifa was pepper spraying+ attacking people before this,yet the media didn't report it. They NEVER report on antifa violence,why?


They're pushing this so hard it's insane.

They revealed too many "nazi-esque" things and showed up at certain demonstrations, giving themselves recognition. This new movement would start out of the blue.

you seem legit to me. good luck with your movement m8

>Virginia
>not overrun by leftists

This is the initial fault in your logic, OP. Please refrain from dartish speculation.

>You do know the fbi has propped up these groups right? Alot of these "grand wizard nazi" whatever fucks are informants.

That's correct. I mentioned how in my first post that we don't want to associate with groups like the NSM of America, KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, etc.

>Antifa
I've seen the shit they do on weekends here. I mentioned in previous posts what they do on their non-protesting days. During the days when we had Safety Squad threads, we uncovered Antifa members in the Oakland area having multiple cases of sex with minors, one member alone who was a musician or event coordinator; something along those lines, had approximately 730 accounts of sex with underaged girls. Some were bribed with drugs.

national (((socialism)))


You are a fucking FOOL. Communism and Nazism are exactly the same Authoritarian bullshit. Your precious Fuhrer is not going to be any different from a Communist Politburo dictatorship. 1776 American libertarianism is the only route. Continue to redpill people so they make the proper choices, but implementing a dictatorship (which would require removing the constitution) is ASININE and probably being lead by the CIA you fucking kike

>This is Charlottesville Virginia, not San Francisco. Antifa aren't a thing in such a place where gun laws aren't like California, and yet they're somehow there, along with a bunch of out-of-place hipsters
It's a liberal upper class college city

national (((socialism)))

You are a pawn in the authoritarian divide and conquer. Neck yourself. 1776 will commence again if you communist or nazi faggots try to overtake America

I'm not saying Virginia doesn't have lefties, but it's not California with strict gun laws, etc. I doubt Antifa roam those areas on their own free will unless bussed in from the outside. Notice Antifa, not just the protesty ones, are usually in areas with strict gun laws, etc. Put them in Texas, and they'll get demolished if they tried to plan an independent opposition (meaning without Soros coordination)

Why is it that every person since that mass flood of shills etc. yesterday who oppose National Socialism always have a Gadsen flag? Libertarians and NatSocs typically had a bond on Sup Forums for quite some time until the last couple days. Very strange.

Why not put your vigor toward commies who are a bigger threat to your way of life?

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Integrity is the one thing that stands the test of time. Truth comes to light. Example, If driver was a 4.0 student with e.c. activities and job instead of just washed out HS grad or hick. He volunteers at hospitals. Etc... Resume speaks volumes just like rap sheets for dindu nuthins when BLM comes and virtue signals.

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Don't fall for divide and conquer drivel. It doesn't matter who supports who right now, the far right must stick together, even if we have different motives in the end, we all make powerful allies. This is exactly what the kikes want, for us to fall apart attacking each other.

this.

wrong. altright is run by kikes. we dont need kike allies. OP is on the right track.

So, lefties made that? I'm not giving up. I'm not abandoning the NatSoc belief. if anything, I'm trying to put antiseptic and a bandaid on this nasty wound.

Wrong. Unity doesn't always mean a good thing. Look at the difference between the Third Reich and the EU. One of them is shit. I'm sure you can figure out the difference.

>muh kikes

Please show me some hard, viable evidence that the alt right is run by Jews, then you can decide to turn on them.

spencergate.wordpress.com

hard, viable evidence is being added every few days.

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Wouldn't suprise me. Runaways,outcasts ,and other easily manipulated kids, are drawn to these types of things.

They buy into the whole "we are the world" bullshit and don't realize what antifa is really about.

Thank you for this information. The reason why i ask, and I don't mean to come off as biased, is that the term "Deep State" was used in regards to discussions about Trump or anyone versus Trump. I myself do not support the man, though definitely not anything the left has to offer, and believe he's just as "Deep State" as the rest. However, the defintion of Deep State I've known about. I just never gave them that name.

I've seen the shit Antifa do around here in person. It's not pretty. The rabbit hole goes so deep into Cartel, Pizzagte, and the music festival industry.

Those weird right wing protesters were controlled opposition I also think... Assange showed that they had the exact same torches and behavior as in Ukraine in 2014, which was financed by Soros.

Holy shit. A quality infograph. Got anymore user?

>Assange showed that they had the exact same torches and behavior as in Ukraine in 2014, which was financed by Soros.

got a link ?

I'd also like a link. This is interesting.

'Gay Antifa' Marchers Attack Reporter in Richmond, VA — BEAT HIM WITH STICK

youtube.com/watch?v=vkqccnXGHZE

'A reporter with Richmond, Virginia CBS affiliate WTVR-TV was attacked by protesters with an Antifa march that was chanting, “We’re here! We’re gay! We fight the KKK!”, after he refused their demands to stop filming the group’s protest march against the KKK Sunday night in downtown Richmond in response to the deadly Nazi-Antifa clashes in Charlottesville the day before.

Video of the attack and the attackers was posted to Twitter by WTVR, as well as photos of the reporter who was taken to the hospital where staples were used to close a gash on his head.

The attack was also live tweeted by WTVR: “There is a large crowd moving through the streets of #RVA. “No Trump, No KKK, No Fascist USA.” Reportedly headed to Lee monument. People are screaming “go to bed” as the crowd marches by. #RVA The crowd is yelling at our news crew. They are telling us we can’t film them, and yelling profanity at the crew.”'

Imagine a group shouting "COMMIE SCUM OFF OUR STREETS!" snd essentially doing the same shit as Antifa. Minus the window smashing, of course. Essentially, demonize Antifa the same way they demonize others.

Like I mentioned before. In order to defeat the Jew, you must reverse-engineer their spell.

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Thank you.

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D&C shill thread

Explain

thanks

National Action members look like beta cucks irl, and the movement has been outright banned in the uk.

How the fuck did the media convince everyone that the people at the rally were all Nazi terrorists? I keep seeing articles and posts that "she died fighting Nazis" and "she died resisting terrorists." wtf? Aside from the one guy how are any of them terrorists? And calling them all Nazis just seems retarded. And yet people are eating it up.

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Really compels you to ponder

Those nazi terrorists shot down a helicopter with two police officers with a nuclear AA battery from Russia and you're here defending them.

These shills sure do have a few bread-and-circus positives

That's the media. If you keep repeating something over and over, people will believe it.

Yep. That's me. I even admitted to copy and pasting over and over. The reason why is that we were being raided heavily yesterday by Antifa, /leftypol/, /ptg/, JIDF, alt-right, etc. all at once. A lot of them hid behind gadsen flags. I kept spamming that, because shit kept getting buried fast from sliding.

before you can have a new movement you have to destroy the old one first. otherwise, you're not only trying to build something new but you're trying to compete with movements with traction and history. Let's destroy the Alt-Right, senpai?

If they're destroyed completely, everyone goes with them, including genuine NatSocs or Fascists. That's my worry.

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I understand your concern, but also dont think any real NatSocs are following Spencer or the AltRight. Plenty of people interested in NatSoc and using our imagery..which should be proof that we will pick them up once we kill the altright. too easy..

>For what pvrpose?

What mean is that once the Alt Right dies, there will never be a new group reborn because of suppression at its fullest. They'll make sure everyone such as the general public, hate the idea of National Socialism, and I don't mean lefties. I mean just regular people who may have been interested at one point or people who aren't political.

We have to stick together until antifa and BLM are demoralized at least.

>In the SF area, Antifa are known to be heavily involved in drug trade
Any evidence?

In terms of uniform I'm thinking something a bit more simple, similar to nordfront, black slacks, black dress shirt, white tie.

As for our symbol, simple is better, perhaps just a circle or a diamond.

Ah. Yeah I see your point. What if we could explain National Socialism to them in a very, very convincing way tho?

ANTIFA can be destroyed almost instantly. They're not a problem, m8. Our biggest enemy right now isnt the commies, not the blacks.. but white people controlled by Jews, ie the altright. After all... the same people funding the AltRight are connected to ANTIFA.

>It's like I'd have to start my own independent movement to weed out who's a covert agent and shill and who's not. If I were to hold a rally, I'd have the following to prove it's not controlled or based and holding integrity:
>No E-celebs or prominent media figures and speakers
So how exactly would you avoid becoming a prominent media figure yourself AND be able to hold a rally that anybody even fucking knows about?

It would be a rally of solitude.

I was thinking of a black ring on a white field. Or a black circle. Like the Japanese flag, but instead of red, black.

The uniform, I was thinking of something very hypermodern, but classy. Minimalist, but showing authority. Think of Deus Ex. And the shields, a shiny black carbon fiber.

>What if we could explain National Socialism to them in a very, very convincing way tho?

Through demonstrations, and actually displaying such values, not just preaching like you're handing out business cards. With these rallies and marching in uniform, you don't tell people you're National Socialists. You just keep vague and lure them in naturally. The actions would speak louder than the words. Sure, you can say a few red-pilling NatSoc things like "Love your people" and all that, but you don't say "Hey, National Socialism is the way, because..." To the average person, they'll hear "Hey, being a Nazi isn't bad." and be immediately put off, if not being your opposition.