Peterson explains the alt-right

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Is Jordan Peterson right? Is the due to lacking a father???

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Can someone explain to me the father/son metaphor here?

I think the father is meant to be a sense of law and order. Organization and the ability to stand strong and sort yourself out by the established social order.

Then I understood it, good.

I agree very much with the speaker in this video.
I never identified as "alt-right," but after recent events and displays of their activism I never will.

dailystormer.com/a-normies-guide-to-the-alt-right/

The movement is a mob movement, like SJW, or liberalism, it is rarely a movement with an official platform. You must then judge the movement by the masses, (sometimes cultivated by a leader, or leaders) and see if you fit the bill. If you ever conform with a "movement," to the sense that it is what defines who you are, you are by definition, a sheep.

A sheep believes in a feeble idea of freedom, in any manifestation it might appear. In this case, you are following a crowd, in a shallow belief that the white race is superior, it is endangered, and that the Jews are at the center of this collaboration to end it.

1. The white race could be superior in minor ways, however we are not more intelligent due to the color of our skin.
2. The white race may die, and traditions may change. They must not change to unholy aberrations, or unhealthy environments for our children or society, (ie. Transgenderism) but they may change.
3. Jews being at the center of this is a shallow explanation for a much wider phenomenon. I was born half Catholic, half Jewish. Jews have a sense to be indignant, and in many ways capture the perfect sense of living in their own lives. Catholicism builds this paradigm as well, but expresses it in tweaked ideals.
The highest answer here resides in the matter of the individual. The individual at hand, and who they are in the world. Not a race, as then you are insignificant. In this case, let us accept foreigners into our land, and find love in them. Let us destroy the ideas that some of them may bring that we believe harmful, and reform their religions. Let us find light and rejoice in the power of our uniqueness and individualism.

In short, we have moved forward in society perhaps in an uncalculated way, but this does not mean moving backwards is correct either. We can progress forward in life, as a civilization, and discover new spiritual means, and meaning, in a SPECIFIC direction, not pure individualism, and not pure nationalism.
The truth lies not in our skin or our tradition, but in our minds.

Underrated post.

The thing is Jordan Peterson does analysis based on facts that we all know.
Problem is there are no facts we are being lied to by Jews.

So the Alt Right represents Law and Order and he thinks Law and Order is a bad thing.

Fucking rly?

With time you will see the light.....in the barrel of a gun in the hands of a nigger or a commie.

No.

But how do you know that what happened in Charlotteleville was caused by the "Alt Right" in the first place? The fact that the (((MSM))) even (((Fox))) won't even mention that Antifa and BLM was there and not one of the (((MSM))) has talked to any of the so called "White Nationalist" to get their side of the story.

And don't even say, "They don't want to give the White Nationalist a platform" when the MSM has no problem interviewing and talking to Antifa and BLM.

do you get sexual arousal from sniffing your own farts user? what romantic desires have you towards your own mother?

>Jordan Fucking Peterson
>BTFO nazis
>in a fucking suit and snazzy shoes
And that's that.

the guy is a kike apologist

i honestly don't understand the hype

he obsesses over IQ too much and the only people who seem to fawn over him at people of average IQ

most of his bullshit can be reduced to, exercise, start reading, think and don't just follow

oh and don't get me started on all the bullshit pseudo-philosophy channels that have cropped up, which all literally just take snippets of Memerson speeches and add hyperbolic titles to it for muh views

Peterson knows.

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>don't get me started on all the bullshit pseudo-philosophy channels that have cropped up, which all literally just take snippets of Memerson speeches and add hyperbolic titles to it for muh views

Yeah at this point he's just Alan Watts for the Millenial NoFap " i have no willpower so better stop having fun altogether" crowd.

>exercise, start reading, think and don't just follow
If you stormfags would do this, perhaps the humble professor wouldn't say it so often
>PhD
>paid to give talks
>millions willingly listen to him
As opposed to user fishing for (you)s by being an edgy shitlord. Sort yourself out.

I'm not going to Twatter.

Yes, goy.. uhm guys! You have to (((progress))), down the slippery slope you go!

he's a fad

>literally quoting Peterson memes as a response

not an argument

White supremacy is actually not a tenant of the alt right. Most alt right leaders have said that no race is superior, but rather all races should have the right to their own lands.

Anti antisemitism is also not a tenant of the alt right, many people in the alt right are anti semetic, but then again, many people of the alt right crowd are actually Jewish themselves, and/or openly deny that jews are a principle enemy. I wouldnt really say the daily stormer is even "alt right", because it's have been around for much longer and are kind of separate from most figures of the alt right.

I know the alt-right spurred it because it was on websites like the Daily Stormer.

"Unite the Right"
Gives some hints.

>kike apologist obsessed with IQ
Exactly what is the argument here?

>twitter.com/outtodoor/status/897005632221364224

>You reference their thinkers

Like fucking who, what the fuck is that guy even talking about? Did Peterson even mention in passing someone lile Evola? Jung and Campbell, which constitute 90% of Peterson's material, are New Age thinkers, not Far Right thinkers.

I think this is a good explanation. Pic related

Why are leftists so obsessed with dicks?

>Nationalism is incomplete!
>the purpose of the nation is to give rise to the individual

Peterson fails immediately when he incorrectly uses the term nation. Nation and country are not interchangeable in the world of multiculturalism. A country is a political entity, but the nation isn't. A nation is the people, its rooted in blood, ancestry. The purpose of the nation is nothing other than to preserve its existence, this is a simple biological imperative.

He is conflating his own personal views with psychoanalysis - the mark of a bad analyst.

So because the rally was called Unite the Right that it was the "Alt Right" that caused all the problems at the rally?

That is some logic there.

Probably. It's a group of low IQ idiots and kids led by the politically incompetent. It's decentralized to the point where the right-er elements of the "movement" are in complete opposition to the more moderate areas and visa versa. It's basically a bunch of angsty teens and manchild-virgins crying about injustice and yet do nothing to stop it.

This may be the worst thing I've read in my entire life. Good job user.

>The purpose of the nation is nothing other than to preserve its existence
aaaand you have no idea what you're talking about

>people are still unironically listening to this guy
lmao

>white supremacy is not a tenet of the alt right
You're funging the definitions of alt right to suit your argument. White nationalism, and all nationalism in general, is inherently also supremacy. American nationalism is implicitly American supremacy - It takes monumental cognitive dissonance to believe you can be proud of the "greatest nation on earth" but not believe it's the "greatest nation on earth". White nationalism is also white supremacist in its goals - where and how do you plan to establish the white ethnostate? Planning to disenfranchise and seize all non-white property in Ohio? The only ethnostate references Dicky Spencer makes are Israel, which is literally the biggest threat to Middle Eastern peace because they made an artificial state and kicked people out, or the Balkans, which are still unbelievably divided and are only just getting over years of war and genocide.

Dicky Spencer and his ilk, if members of the alt-right, make the alt-right at least in part white supremacist. If you exclude Dicky Spencer, then the alt-right really becomes classical liberals and libertarians.

nation - a group of people united by common history and shared values
state - a geopolitical sovereign entity
Both nations and states exist to preserve their own existence. Prove me wrong.

Nice completely substance free shitpost.

Stop using terms you're not even remotely familiar with. The entirety of the Alt-Right is White Nationalism. There is no large organization of Lolberts in our ranks.

My hesitance to label myself as alt-right is mainly just due to its fetishization of totalitarian ideologies like national socialism. They seem like the kind of people who would stab you in the back even after you fight on their side for not being ideologically or racially pure enough, mainly just due to the fact that they're hyper-collectivist and they see their members as expendable. That's a common theme I've noticed within the alt-right; this notion of using people and then throwing them away when they're no longer useful.

In short, even if they have the right idea, I still don't trust them, and so I'm not joining them.

if the only point of a nation was NOTHING as you stated, other than keeping itself alive, it would have 0 meaning

Cool, thanks for confirming my suspicions. Anyone who identifies as alt-right needs to be thrown out of a helicopter.

Wouldn't that make every black guy alt-right?

This is the exact problem with authoritarian collectivism.

/pol needs to go back to its libertarian ways. Americana all the way baby!

>A nation is the people, its rooted in blood, ancestry. The purpose of the nation is nothing other than to preserve its existence, this is a simple biological imperative.
Yeh, because of course a nation is a biological organism. The funny thing is you're this stupid but you so confidently and nonchalantly put down other thinkers like Peterson. The mark of a true idiot.

>it would have zero meaning
>implying it has meaning
The identitarian movements known as "nations" exist to foster their identity in the next generation of that nation. That is literally existing for the purpose of continuing your existence. If you find meaning in that, whatever, but you can find just as much meaning being a member of MS-13 as well.

>The identitarian movements known as "nations" exist to foster their identity in the next generation of that nation.

OKAY you fucking retard, that is a good defintion and you just proved my point, there is more reason than just preserving it's own existence as you just stated

Peterson is an out of touch old man, still operating under the conditions of the prime of his life.
Those conditions no longer apply.
His philosophy is outdated.
You should not play peacemaker for the very same groups that blame you for all their problems.
You should tell them to go fuck themselves.

You typed all those words without saying anything.
A nation, because a nation is living breathing human beings, keeps itself alive by creating offspring. Offspring of the same blood and ancestry. Offspring who don't dissolve into an multicultural rootless people.

>being this new

A pack of wolves is a collection of biological organisms. A nation is at its core simply just a large pack.
You do not have even a semblance of an argument.

>tfw can only process about a third of what he's saying

Fuck off kike

kek

>A pack of wolves is a collection of biological organisms
Yeh and there's no biological or evolutionary justification for considering a pack of wolves as a whole as a biologically unified entity. Don't believe me, look up the literature on kin selection.

>A nation, because a nation is living breathing human beings, keeps itself alive by creating offspring. Offspring of the same blood and ancestry. Offspring who don't dissolve into an multicultural rootless people.

factually incorrect if you think you can only have a nation if it is the same ancestry

>continuing to fail to make an argument
You're doing nothing other than showing me your feelings are hurt because I rightly pointed out Peterson's flawed logic.
Stop being a zealous child.

You don't understand what the term nation means and where the root word comes from.
Mixed people are not a nation.

Is there any instances in history behind your "factually incorrect"

>You're doing nothing other than showing me your feelings are hurt because I rightly pointed out Peterson's flawed logic. Stop being a zealous child.
Stop describing yourself and engage with my comments.

The U.S. is a nation

>Mixed people are not a nation.
prove it

These people are insanee.

>A country is a political entity, but the nation isn't
Nationalism is literally the politicization of a people.

nation (n.)
c. 1300, from Old French nacion "birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.

Origin.
Breed.
Stock.
Kind.
Species.
Race of people.
Tribe.

People from different origins, of a different breed, a different stock, a different kind does not a nation make.

You haven't posted anything of substance, and you're barely coherent.

Nationalism is one people asserting their political will. One people. That is an important distinction. It is one group of people with common ancestry taking political action in the face of an ideology that threatens the nation.

>let us accept foreigners into our land
let us sort out western culture and civilisation and the nihilism we find ourselves in before we invite the world in while we languish in a weakened state. stop forcing poor white people watch their neighbourhoods rapidly change to multi-ethnic societies, they will resent it and radicalise for it. you are creating the chaos that begs for radical order with this attitude, the Tower of Babel will be thrown apart every time.

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ANTISEMITES BTFOOOOOOOO

Maybe. Where there is no true authority a new race of men will eventually create it.

>People from different origins, of a different breed, a different stock, a different kind does not a nation make.
Pretty much all modern nations are made of people with many different origins, and you're using a obsolete definition.

>Nationalism is one people asserting their political will
That makes it a political entity.

Not only are you incapable of understand the innate biological differences that occur in different human ethnic groups but you've also demonstrated that you haven't a clue about how these differences can induce ethnic conflict and disrupt the overall societal flow. "We need to uphold the idea of the INDIVIDUAL to highest of standards" Sure, once those who actively wish to undermine and destroy whites drop their collective consciousnesses to. You do realize Randian individualism is a Western philosophy? No other culture that I can think of upholds the same sort of concept as much as we do yet you think importing foreigners who share none of our ideals with open arms is going to bring us a great prosperity? Fuck off.

Alt-right anti-semitism is the factor of the russian influence on it through Spencer's wife. The old soviet KGB brochures recommended to inspire anti-semitism to foment riots and revolutions in the west.

>Pretty much all modern nations are made of people with many different origins
That very thing is the reason for this political unrest. The orchestrated destruction of different ethnic demographics and melding into one in developed nations. This is displacing the rightful people of these countries, it is destroying the nations. That is why these Nationalist movements exist now.

>That makes it a political entity.
You're conflating things. All of Nationalism is the nation, but not all of the nation is Nationalism.

>Randian individualism is a Western philosophy? No other culture that I can think of upholds the same sort of concept
Ayn Rand was russian.

I had a fantastic family up bringing of both my parents as my 2 kids are also having.
Much of what he says you can correlate to leftists since single mums tend to breed them.

Ayn Rand grew up in Russia, studied in Russia and left Russia only after the revolution when she disliked what franco-german communists do.

>That very thing is the reason for this political unrest
I'm not talking about contemporary migrations, it's always been that way. Are the French or the English people of a common origin? Of course not.

Yes.
Why would some of trump supporters then call him unironically "daddy" trump?

The only thing he's wrong about is muh antisemitism. He should be smarter than that.

Majority of European nations are very homogeneous especially before modern immigration. And if they are not there are usually clear borders that separated and established "homelands" for these different people withing larger countries like in France are in Germans in Alsace-Loraine, Corsica and the isle of Corsica, Britons whatever is left of them in Brittany, Catalonians in Catalonia ect.

Fuck off kike. "Jews being at the center of this is a shallow explanation", tell that to the neocohens, neolibs, heads of the fed, control of media, journalism, universities, porn industry ect. Your kike tricks don't work here faggot, kys.

>Is Jordan Peterson right? Is the due to lacking a father???
Lacking role models, definitely. What the fuck would you expect us to respect about the average baby boomer/gen x fathers though? They're absolutely fucking pathetic. The sooner they die off the better off the world will be.

Also fuck that intellectually dishonest, out of touch faggot. Most his stuff is normie-tier. I never got why Sup Forums was sucking his dick so hard.

>>Is Jordan Peterson right? Is the due to lacking a father??
C'mon Sup Forums you're better than this. I guess I'll spoon feed you since it's late here and I tired.

The whole "save your father from the bell of the beast" is almost entirely about bringing order out of chaos. So what he said, in layman's terms: "The alt right is searching for a way to bring order out of the current chaos of the world." And he's completely 10,000,000% right on that point.

its hard to argue with Peterson

Fuck off JPIDF.
Psychology is a Jewish scam, and Jordanposters are lower than Laurenposters.
Get the fuck off my white board ZOG shills.

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