Charlottesville Aftermath
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>inb4 and for the record
I'm not a nazi stormfag. I'm libertarian/AnCap.
This is an effort to ruin the libertarians reputation by associating them with NatSocs. pol has long been infiltrated by these stormfags. Before that pol was libertarian. This is an attempt to associate libertarians with nazis.
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>I'm not a nazi stormfag.
you dont even know what NatSoc is ;)
I don't hold to socialism
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yeah - I've read this before. I get that its not soviet socialism, but i still disagree on the grounds that you can't be forced to go along with something you disagree with.
Any socialism is bad in my book
I like that he finds atheism disagreeable.
>Any socialism is bad in my book
all socialism means in National Socialism is the the way you make $$$ has to benefit society. So... you cant be a drug dealer, you can't lend money with huge interest (usury), you cant gamble on the stocks, etc. It ends corruption. It is not a financial system. is this bad? if the only reason you arent NatSoc is because youve done ZERO research and formed opinions based in your assumption... youre wrong ;)
enjoy the thread tho.
Yes - I'm aware that Hitler was against usury and "interest slavery" which is good. That's about as far as I agree with NatSocs. Only on an economic basis.
I still think society needs to be voluntary tho, rather than imposed.
You really think the current powers that be will ever reduce the governments influence? Libertarians need to start organising.
>I still think society needs to be voluntary tho, rather than imposed.
why wouldnt it be voluntary?
No - government always seek to expand their powers and these Charlottesville type happenings only result in exactly that.
>Libertarians need to start organising.
I agree. But by definition they want to and do leave others alone, so libertarians congregating is a paradox.
because its on the "authoritarian" end of the spectrum.
But also on the right - which is good - at least regarding economics
you know how the judges keep blocking trumps immigration halt? this is why we need authoritarianism. imagine what trump could have done already if no one oppose. bad leaders become bad dictators, good leaders become good ones ..?
rare nog in there
really seems like there is grounds for a lawsuit to Charlottesville PD or whoever was in charge of that crowd detail
only a couple minutes into the video and I agree. This is how every person I know thinks. I live in a white gun loving area and a Nazi flag will get your ass beat just as fast a being a nigger. Have fun with your race war.
Antifa already does that. They call Republicans and libertarians fascist already what difference does it make
>I'm Lolbertarian/AnCap
How nice of you to label yourself, because the communists don't care you faggot. Time to stop punching right and realize you're in the fight whether you want to be or not because of who you are.
It's hard to not see it as an attempt to discredit any whites that aren't SJWs judging by the way it was covered. The left extremists have been calling everyone a "Nazi" since Trump was elected. I guess it was time rest of the MSM and crooked politicians hopped on board.
Yes - I appreciate the benefits of authoritarianism.
Most people are fucking stupid and need to be led. In fact most people want to be led rather than lead.
But what about those who can look after themselves and want to? Currently, we are all included to be ruled, so if you don't want immigration for eg. tough luck - you're going to get it. The authoritarianism doesn't come from the leader - it comes form the system. Trump is the current front man, but he's not in charge.
I mean, hes a billionaire because he has a billion (((federal reserve dollars))). So hes not independent from the system, unfortunately.
Yeah,but we all know what Libertarians really want (pic related). And besides, if you ARENT liberal left, you are a Nazi in their narrative. That's why the whole Virginia episode is such bullshit; all this fuss and demonizing because of one edgy kid who killed one person.
The communists are anti-capitalism. This system we have in not capitalism since "capital" is just being printed to infinity, it seems. This, by definition, cannot be capital. I believe if the commies were taught what capitalism is and is not, they are more likely to understand and be sympathetic to real capitalism, which is Austrian school economics.
When you were an ignorant child growing up, you were more likely to be "left". and as you get older and get more worldly experience your views change. These commies are just dumb kids who have been brainwashed by the pop-culture that advocates leftism as "cool"
>These commies are just dumb kids who have been brainwashed by the pop-culture that
No, you see that's the thing. Many of these people are full-grown adults. These people are in acamedia, etc. That's the terrifying aspect. You're speaking to someone who threw a vote to the magical nigger when he had a time to not be in the know. That was how many years ago? Information threshhold has gone through the roof since when I was a retarded high schooler, these "kids" no longer have that excuse to not know what the hell is happening and the level of disinformation they are fed on a daily basis. They have a chance I didn't have at the time, so sorry they are going to reap what they sowe if they choose to continue on this destructive path, and they aren't going to get an iota of sympathy from me or anyone else.
Is anyone going to mention the police stabbed the patriots in the back when they are the main groups supporting the police?
Whats the explanation for that? I think its game over for the state when they dont uphold the Constitution and turn on those that do.
The right needs t recognise that our own governments are the ones advocating anti-national practices. They are also on the public-payroll which leeches off the taxpeyer and plnges nations into debt.
The police are basically new-wave commies.
everyone knows libertarians are just crypto-nazis. they're libertarian until they eventually realize the left is standing in the way of realizing their libertopia, and then they embrace fascism as a 'temporary' measure until the left is defeated (which is never).
"Nazi" LARPers are a joke, but you lolbertarians are an even bigger joke. You're just such pussies.
>unironically being a lolberg in the current year +2
ok - maybe they're not kids, but they are definitely brainwashed.
Its pop-culture that says leftism is cool. Thats what they are responding to. They hear it from music / movies/ TV / everywhere.
Thats the new authoritarianism. Its subversive rather than overt. You have to go along with the left agenda or you are considered an outcast.
>Our socialism isnt like their socialism, because we are the true socialism that has never been tried before.
N-nazis don't honestly believe that right?
No - libertarians want to go it alone. Its the opposite of a pussy. A pussy is one who needs the state to raise them like a child.
NICE SNEK
I agree with NatSocs as far as economics goes. I'm against usury.
I don't mind not having an ethno-state tho. If I want white kids, i'll have white kids. If I want mixed kids, I'll have mixed kids - I don't care. And no one else should care what my kids are either.
>Thats the new authoritarianism.
Hilarious, considering that's exactly what is going to be needed to correct the course.
It doesn't sound like you want the American system of small government and low taxes then.
Maybe Sweden would be to your liking
>American system of small government and low taxes then.
So you haven't actually been paying attention, because that hasn't been the case for quite some time.
Libertarians aren't gay.
Personally - I think uber-camp faggots prancing down the street in nothing but a feather boa and some underpants is mental illness tier degeneracy that needs medical treatment. But if "normal" gay people want to be gay - I dont care - as long as it doesn't affect me, I can't complain, right?
to say that we need leaders is not the same as saying we need authoritarianism
human beings must take control of their surroundings and manipulate the world to fulfill their needs. we cannot do everything, we cannot always undo our mistakes, we have conflicting needs, and we don't have perfect information, but decisions must be made.
voluntarist interactions are not about being hippies to who just sit around. we want private property. that means that every thing has an OWNER who can do whatever he wants with it.
part of voluntarism over authoritarianism is that that ownership can be transferred. not only do we want humans to manipulate the things around us, we want a system to determine who is in control of what things.
just because every human owns himself, it doesn't mean that people won't work together. if one man can convince many others to carry out his plans (through money or anything else, then we could have a voluntarist system that results in people voluntarily being led by great men
libertarianism/anarchocapitalism is nicer than authoritarianism by default because it abolishes statism's most despicable evils. but anti-statism does not deny the harshness of reality and nature. our only promise is that it is a better system of minimizing misery and maximizing progress than any other.
I agree, but outright "authoritarianism" doesn't work. It has to be subversive like the leftism is today. They are the authoritarians, and they have been brainwashed into this thinking by TV media.
People need to think they are the ones coming up with the ideas and are "morally correct"
This .
Good post.
Imagine what Obama could have done under the same proposed system. There's a good reason to avoid giving someone absolute power. The problem we have have now isn't Trump's lack of power it's all the charlatans and deep state vested interests that infest governments, he just needs to drain the swamp.
So you have big corps do that instead?
Individuals aren't "big corps".
>People need to think they are the ones coming up with the ideas and are "morally correct"
Excuse me if I won't hold my breath while the majority of simpletons dictate amongst themselves what constitutes the morality and not. Especially when what is allowed in our societies today is passed off as such. The general public has proven they can't be trusted, which is the fault of a democracy in it's own by design. So, it's time for decisive maneuvers and those that get it will and those that don't are going to adapt or not. I don't care either way.
Sup Forums was never completely libertarian
What are all the monuments that have been attacked or removed?
Could be a good meme along with the rebel flag.
>ancap isn't anCAP
That's normally not a problem and even works in our favour by making them look crazy. Unfortunately the cringey cunts that went on the match and started throwing hitler salutes,not to mention the idiot who drove his car into people, have basically validated every dumb leftist that yells "nazi" at their breakfast cereal. We were winning by appearing to be the sane and reasonable ones in the face of authoritarian and violent oppression, all for years of hard work and earned good will to get pissed down the drain by a bunch of larping knuckle dragging kekistanis from reddit.
Individuals can be capitalists without being a "big corp".
Its really not hard to understand. You have to really try hard to be misunderstanding this badly.
The police still get their marching orders from the local government who usually has them by the short and curlies.
The national-socialist biggots also infiltrated ancap reddits, when their alt-right subredding was closed. The main issue we had with them was not their views, but their stupidity. They were like feminists.
Ancap leads to big capitalist corporations monopolizing the whole world without anyone to oversee nor control their power and influence in any way.
(You)
Reading your post was like hearing nails drag across a chalkboard.
Capitalism is a social economic system having private property rights for the means of production. The oppesition to this is socialism, where the means of production are owned by the state. If you love the second, than you are a socialist and to be consistent should support all the radical left stuff, such as state management of enterprises, racial and gender quotas for education and jobs.
The market controls them. If you don't like a certain business, don't buy from them. Unethical practices will go out of business and there will be no state to bail them out or waive laws favourable to them or keep them afloat, llike it is today
To be consistent with what? That's your problem, you think you have to follow whatever others tell you it's "coeherent" to follow. Excellent way to perform your role as yet another cog in the machine.
>if you don't like Coca-Cola, just stop buying from them, they'll surely disappear amongst competition!
Utopic optimistic mental gymnastics =/= Practical cold reality
Personally, I haven't had a coke in years. Coca cola can never go bust because they will always be bailed out and kept afloat. Coca cola going bust or any similar sized company will collapse the entire economy. Thats why they are kept afloat. Like banks for eg.
This system is closer to communism since we all pay the price for bailouts by a devalued currency as a result. The purchasing power declines.
How can coca cola (or any company) survive if no one buys from them?
Its not "mental gymnastics" its common sense.
what is this fat hicks united?
So if Coca Cola disappearing would collapse the economy, what leads you to believe that'd be any different with that or all other big companies if we lived in an ancap society (even though we already do)?
