There are many people complaining that the Charlottesville rally was a horrible thing for PR, that it will kill off the movement.
Think again. The movement made global headlines, made #Charlottesville viral on twitter and has made every american aware of the movement.
We had somethig similar in the past. Hailgate. When the Atlantic picked up some clips from an Alt-Right conference and made Richard Spencer look bad. That went viral as well, and guess what, our movement grew a lot very quickly.
If some of you truly are PR-concerned; I'm all okay with leaving the swastika-flags and other 1930's German symbols to the past. We don't have to disavow national socialists, even if think that way.
We were treated unfairly by the state, police and antifa. It was a legal protest and people will see that.
Don't worry, this is great.
John Sanchez
Please attend another rally so I can punch your dumb ass in the face
Isaiah Wilson
>There are many peole complaining that the Charlottesville rally was a horrible thing for PR >many people complaining that Charlottesville was a horrible thing >many people complaining >(((many people)))
Camden Peterson
Nice power fantasy dude does the whisper of testosterone that it elicits from your endocrine system bolster your sense of masculinity and self esteem? Do you feel strong and powerful when you make pithy comments to ideological opposites on the internet?
Mason Gray
Contrary to the old saying, all press is NOT good press. This was a complete disaster and reflected poorly on all attendees.
As for bringing Nazi flags, clearly that shouldn't be encouraged or tolerated. We gain NOTHING in displaying Nazi symbols. How does this serve to advance our ideas? It feeds a press narrative and undermines our credibility.
The "Alt-Right" is a toxic term -- increasingly, only dregs and the self-employed will remain and show up to events. Can you imagine even half of the people who turned up to Charlottesville attending another rally? They've been scared off and this isn't desirable.
Austin Gutierrez
the movement has been controlled by soros from day one it's $5 to inject 50 natsoc gaylord faggot nazi fuckwits into a march and THAT gives them MILLIONS in ads for their antifa ACTUAL NAZIS
Zachary Sullivan
fuck you, he's my ideological equal, he's just being an idiot strategically.
Henry Robinson
>trannies are just as tough!!
Kevin Rogers
only if due process exposes what happened and we denounce the FUCKING NATSOC SHILLS AND NIGGERS ON POL AND WE GUT AND TORTURE COMMIES EN MASSE ONLY THEN WILL THINGS GET BETTER KILL A COMMIE FOR CHRIST
Isaac Clark
we need to stop being cucks find the terrorist who sprayed baked alaska tie them up livestream them being burned with acid with "he will not divide us" branded onto their fucking cuck stomach then full castrate/dickectomy them
Christian Wilson
RIGHTEOUS TRIPS OF GLORIOUS VENGEANCE
Benjamin Wright
>As for bringing Nazi flags, clearly that shouldn't be encouraged or tolerated. We gain NOTHING in displaying Nazi symbols.
This. Just how fucking dumb do you have to be to bring the shit that every single normie associates with pure evil?
Ayden Fisher
>we
>implying everyone on Sup Forums automatically gives a shit about burger bullshit b t w >fingol why do u even care
i cant wait till summer ends
Nathan Howard
Yeah, the Nazi larping is fucking retarded. What we need are new symbols. Leave the ole shit home. It hurts, not helps.
We need to come up with a good aesthetic. Polo and khakis aren't terrible, but they aren't great either.
Connor Thomas
Look at clips like these and tell me that the momentum isn't on our side.
Jack Young
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Brandon Bailey
This was shit PR. If the Alt-Right wants to grow into a serious movement they gotta cut out the shit where they have a bunch of skinheads and fatasses walking around larping as Nazis. This is without even talking about the idiot who murdered a woman there either.
Lincoln Wilson
They () are talking shit, but yet one of their fags are dead.
Jack Cook
There's nothing wrong with any of that, even the confederate battle flag is a nice fuck you to the media. Just the nazi shit needs to be kept well away from it.
Jack Collins
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Ian Bailey
How about this you sperg.
Luis Ward
>We pfft stop pigeon holing yourselves faggots
remember when hillary started panicking?
Christian Walker
The past brawls with Antifa for free speech while waving American flags were good PR.
Murdering people and waving Nazi flags in Charlottesville might have guaranteed press, but did not make a positive impression on anyone.
The only people praising the attack are the national socialist nuts that actually believe socialism works.
Jackson Morgan
Don't worry I'll be at the next one. I want to see you try that shit faggot.
Juan Sullivan
how come you Americans can't get real riot shields, you look like medieval larpers with that wooded stuff (it looks like wood anyways)
Even Swedish nationalist movements have modern riot shields.
Ryder Gutierrez
So you're taking ownership of the Alt-right, from Finland. Nice.
Jacob Diaz
>momentum isn't on our side momentum isn't on your side
Jack Cook
Geez stormfags when will you guys realize you only hurt the movement when you go around larping as nazis saying shit like gas the kikes? If you want to be taken seriously and take the cause to the next level all of that has to be dropped
Levi Lewis
Some dudes had legit riot shields, others had makeshift. This wasn't just one group gathering, this was many
Blake Sanchez
You sound triggered, young Nazi. Maybe you should go find your safe space.
Benjamin Jenkins
Wrong
Ian Thompson
Yessssssss, things are going precissssssely as planned ssssssss.
Joshua Martin
Mission accomplished. That logo looks like it was designed by a fucking 2nd grader lol
Jaxon Wright
He deserved it.
Bentley Torres
i see tiki toches in texas. i shoot you. it's as simple as that spencer. this is not a threat.
Christian Evans
Unironically this
Josiah Price
>we Gadsden flags are become more syonomous with the underage LARPitarians or falseflagging shills
Brayden Lee
well you're just going to have to deal with it then, cause richard spencer is coming to Texas A&M university next month
Cameron Reed
It has created a stalemate scenario in which the govt played at calling us terrorists then backed off like pathetic pussies. Which means they fear us.
Also Trump may in fact have proven to be ourguy when he refused to buy into the jewish "white supremacist" narrative.
Mason Green
>I'm all okay with leaving the swastika-flags and other 1930's German symbols to the past.
I agree. Maybe this is a necessary juncture where we leave hitlers ghost behind us and become something new
Juan Price
im going to shoot him and anyone in the way.
Joseph Bennett
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Jason Thompson
Reported ;)
Logan Hernandez
You guys need to stop being such pussies. An obese antifa slut got mowed down by a Dodge Challenger like it's fucking Death Race. The traitorous venal police lost two of their own guys through incompetence. And neither of those things were the direct result of the actions of our guys.
Because of that, the media's lies are all the more absurd, hysterical and desperate. They are clutching at straws. They want more violence committed by the alt-right so badly, and they're not getting any.
Jayden Nelson
Everyone who says this is a fucking inbred shill. Fuck you faggot. That is exactly the endgame here.
Jacob Gomez
You claim this as success? This is just silly little boys with their mom's tiki torches. Then the next day they got the shit beat out of them and in retaliation one of them took his car and ran over a bunch of people. You're losing.
Brayden Gomez
>Civil war >Like three people fighting >Everyone else is on their cameras
Just send a masked guy through and break their good goy devices.
Justin Thompson
nice larp.
Jeremiah Powell
>got the shit beat out of them
actually, the opposite happened
Nicholas Wood
>if you win you lose
Henry Long
i just don't think it matters at this point. the content of what white nationalists are saying, and these are people who are distinct from general right-wingers/Trump supporters, is becoming increasingly relevant to average whites. they won't be turned off by "bad publicity," because what the WN are saying is what they're starting to feel.
it might be bad PR for the next couple weeks, but wait until another beaner rapes a white woman, or a nigger kills another white cop.
Camden Brooks
That's OUR N-word
Noah Russell
Fuck off with >muh PR What matter is: that an American nationalistic movement exists and it's here to kick commie butt metaphorically and literally
Jeremiah Edwards
Already happened no one cares
Benjamin Scott
Wow a gang of overweight balding faggots who had to be shipped in from all over the country with tiki torches surround some college age girls.
Hudson Collins
Make a move you little leaf bitch. We both know you don't have the fucking balls.
Michael Powell
I've been a nationalist for 15 years, the movement is exploding and we are winning. They are regular working class guys that are doing something instead of whining on the internet.
Nicholas Morgan
So many jews on here and govt shills.
Do you faggots honestly think you can win this?
The battle was won as soon as the state started backing down on "muh terrorism" thing when their nsa screening showed there was a high risk of revolution if they went forward with it.
You've already lost. Why bother?
Parker Thomas
Except with that one action of terrorism you have revitalized the anti fascist movement which already outnumbered you.
Liam Clark
You won't do shit
Ian Allen
I have to give it to Trump He stood his ground and didn't give in to the communists on Twitter asking for the heads of every white male in the nation Interested to see where it's going to go executively from there
Andrew Lopez
>he actually thinks he has any substantial support for a "revolution"
Eli Rogers
The anti fascist movement is almost constant. These upper class kids eventually get a job and is replaced by new studying upper class kids.
Liam Robinson
Yep, he really is /ourguy/
Luke Foster
>you have revitalized the anti fascist movement
And you revitalized average white men into standing up for themselves. Congratulations.
Jackson Cooper
Where is proofs, faggot.
Juan White
> There are many people complaining that the Charlottesville rally was a horrible thing for PR Yes those would be desperate shills and Jews doing their thing. Like almost never before. The board has been flooded with this bullshit. Never seen it quite like this. But no I don't buy a bit of it.
Leo Walker
Why did they back off then?
Because they know if they attack us they trigger all whites. It's a cold war rn. Trump admin might be on our team too.
Parker Brown
You living in denial, you nazi snowfalkes.
You think you are the heroes of the fight against the Left and anyone who dares to disagree with you is a fuckin kike.
The truth is you are tryinig hard to take credit for the merits and efforts of others (Ben Saphiro, Milo Yiannopoulos, Stefan Molyneux, Gavin McGinnes...) they are the ones who have given new hopes to a new generation of conservatives and are fighting the cultural hegemony of thel eft.
All you have achieved with your dumb display of fanatism is giving the left a martyr, exactly what they neeeded the most, they are pros at playing the victim card, not to mention you have divided the right and stop the momentum of the Right.
Trump and Paul Ryan, cĀ“mon, even Tommy Robinson have condemned these acts and yet you fucking dare it was a success.
You are in denial and a jew like Milo has more to fight cultural marxism than all the nazi supporters combined.
Aiden Hernandez
I mite tho.Spencer really pisses me off big league. I hate the fucker so much. He is everything I detest in a person.
Zachary Martinez
Can't stop the signal.
Nolan Rodriguez
OP is correct. Charlottesville wasn't the flashy on-the-day win that was expected; it turned into more of a slow burner First Amendment win. But it's still a win.
Elijah Smith
yea, keep telling yourself that
Noah Brown
hope you enjoy your chat with the FBI
Charles Garcia
>implying National Socialists are anything about gibs
You do realize people went to prison in Germany then for not working right? We're not sjws
Sebastian Cruz
How is someone scribbling on a flipover proof of anything?
Oliver Rivera
Fuck free speech BRAH! YOLO SWAG
Henry Butler
Oh yes sure I disagree with you so your best argument is a meme accusing me of being a kike.
So are predictable to say the least.
Charles Lewis
Keep dreaming fag boy.
Josiah Hughes
Do you see any Nazi flags? I don't. I saw maybe one in all the videos I've seen.
Isaiah Butler
it was an absolute shit how that only displayed to the neutral public that the right is no better than the left and that they are hypocritical idiots who pull the se shit the left was pulling pre-election. It COULD have been positive in the sense that it displayed numbers in physical form but every possible positive advantage to this absolute mess what thrown out what Spergy McBeeftits allahu ackbarred a crowd of people.
Kevin Brown
How is not providing proofs proof of >muh nazi terrorist drove a car of peace
Levi Miller
> The board has been flooded with this bullshit. Never seen it quite like this. I agree, I just don't understand their thought process. When it was CTR shilling for Hill, at least you understood their objective: blackpill Trump supporters to get them to stay home and win the witch the election. I don't even understand what the purpose of the post-Charlottesville shilling is. What do they hope to accomplish? The best I can posit is that every antifa in the country got massively triggered by the tiki march and now Sup Forums is well known they waddled over to the nearest keyboard to mash their fat fingers against and REEEEEEEEEEE pointlessly into the ocean of piss for a day or two.
Levi Roberts
>They are regular working class guys that are doing something instead of whining on the internet. That is the one thing I can't stand about these counter signalling retards on Sup Forums, they criticize everyone who goes out for some irl activism.
Easton Clark
yeah (((dumb))). I wonder (((who))) could be behind this
Daniel Cox
I've been freaking out about this for the last few days, but I'm starting to see sense.
If we make it clear that we condemn violence and prove the car accident wasn't premeditated, we should be good.
David Hernandez
Charlottesville was a fucking disaster. Fucking idiots bring swastikas and shit.
Evan Torres
>anti fascist movement >implying it's not just a neoliberal movement with bandanas at this point lol
Nicholas Scott
Charlottesville was a fucking disaster. The fucking swastikas, the nazi get up, everything. The left will haunt the right with this forever.
Idiots.
Ryan Sanchez
Anti fascists are domestic terrorists you brainlet. But you already knew that. Ironic how you turned into the fascists you so hate.
Jose Perry
they always do. and when they don't, they just get lined up and shot by those who wanted the power on the left.
Ethan Hill
>EU flag >let's cover this up lol! you're not fooling anybody
>fucking disaster >not in america opinion discarded.
>lol whoops, i forgot to type all my script
Adam Sanchez
I'm not condemning it, I don't think it was a major victory or defeat, Anyone who says optics don't matter is stupid though. Optics matter, they matter to the mother of two teenage boys in kansas, who shes overheard them talking about Alt-right and WN. It matters to the father of the guy in Arizona who tells his parents he's going to a rally, and doesn't want to come home and find all his things on the curb. It matters to the millions of whites, who realize somethings wrong but are looking for an answer, that doesn't involve burning crosses.
I'm not counter-signaling the swastika, I love the swastika but we are not a 30s German Workers Party. If your gonna use the Swastika, fly the flag from The Man In The High Castle.
Most of all, my biggest issue is, what I saw Saturday was a bunch of "rednecks" with mullets, blue jeans, and tee shirts on, screaming Nigger at anyone and everyone. Have a little dignity, have a little self respect. Anyone attending these events should be required to wear formal clothing. If some guy walks up who's 60 lbs overweight and a pepe tattoo on his neck, tell him to go home and lift. It's not hard to keep your mouth shut and let the intelligent people explain our positions, we aren't there to convert Antifa. We are there to get shut down, and spread our message through media.
I get it, noone wants to get punched, noone wants to get maced, or beaten, but these things are temporary, the result though is support. Your not weak if you take a punch and don't punch back. Our movement is more important that getting revenge on the communist who punched you. 16 men died before Hitler could come to power. That's a martyr, not some guy in a car running people down. Noone wants to die, but if dying propels us forward and ensures a future for our children, then at least die smiling for all the cameras to see.
Luis Bennett
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Robert Hernandez
The old saying of "There is no such thing as bad publicity" is more true than people think.
If you want to be successful you have to be on the News all the time just like Trump was (for good or bad reasons)
Trump easily had the biggest and most negative media coverages i've ever seen in my life yet he still managed to increase his fame, supporters and won.
After the initial shock, people will eventually start to look into it, specially if they were castigated for being white/and or male or defending such people.
The Alt Right only has to maintain integrity and it's core arguments solid while the media provides exposure
The opposition is getting scared and they will escalate things based on hot tempered emotions which is guaranteed to cause mistakes.
I'll bet they will continue with the boogeyman narrative which is surprisingly easy to shatter once people see REAL alt right people behaving before their own eyes (assuming the behaviour is tempered and cultured)
Also, dont descend into purity spiraling!
Lincoln Watson
>don't worry, this is great CIA has perfected MKUltra
Tyler Gonzalez
>Trump easily had the biggest and most negative media coverages i've ever seen in my life yet he still managed to increase his fame, supporters and won.
This, exactly. The media smear campaign was so extreme, it was like a new smear tactic every single day.
Luis Parker
This was an absolute loss. When people on bother the left and the right are calling it a nazi rally/race riot it's a fucking loss. No normal wants to be associated with that.
Logan Jones
>addressing the pic related and not my text
Disingenuous fucking piece of shit that you are.
Connor Gonzalez
There's only one way to turn this into a victory:
1) Change the narrative: This was a legal protest that the city illegally tried to disband before it even happened. The local government called in ANTIFA, and hates white people.
2) The Dodge guy was attacked FIRST, panicked, and drove forward. Provide evidence of dents on his car and pics of ANTIFA with bats and masks.
3) The media is lying and trying to destroy whites.
4) Build some fucking legal defense teams for your people so when they get unmasked and fired from their jobs, or arrested, you can defend them.
5) Build moneymaking organizations that can employ people who lost their jobs, and use funds to LOBBY THE GOVERNMENT, or open a charter/private school. We need to start taking back our youth and providing a future for our people.