The only reason why Heather died was because she was harassing an innocent driver trying to get to their destination. She engaged in an illegal barricade of traffic where her and her fellow counter protesters stopped vehicles. There are consequences when you engage in mob violence and behave with zero regard for the law.
The counter protesters were not allowed to be there, they had no compassion towards drivers who had the misfortune of being there. None of these people helped the cars out to help them navigate out, the cars were harassed to a near dead stop. Then an antifa with a bat hit a car and the driver went full panic mode and rammed the crowd.
He saw two cars ahead of him at a dead stop. He recognized they were assaulting his vehicle and feared they would drag him out of his car and beat him due to wearing the garb of the enemy. If he were to stop his car and reverse it's possible antifa would smash his windows and murder him. This was at the fringe of the crowd and he feared for what waited for him at the heart of the crowd.
Fake news. He could have turned. He went straight instead. KILL YOURSELF OP.
Charles Miller
From previous post. Airbags do not deploy based on speed. Never heard that. Please enlighten user.
Andrew Sanchez
Im my opinion you are fake news. Where do we go from here?
Nolan Wilson
We were also frustrated that with all those cameras we cannot find one picture of him driving the car at the time.
Evan Anderson
The roads where he could have turned down were also blocked by people, any direction he could have gone he had the opportunity to hit someone. Watch the video and see that they illegally overran the road. In his moment of insanity due to harassment previously transpired he felt heading straight forwards would have made people disperse.
Caleb Rogers
Kill all non red haired/green eyed people Kill blondes too idgaf they're vermin as much as the jew I'm talking to you too nazi/kkk
Sebastian Garcia
If he was not panicked and just trying to kill antifas, he would have headed for the sidewalk like user said in last thread.
Colton White
Well you could try killing yourself.
Adrian Lopez
>she was harassing an innocent driver
You don't get to kill people because they're standing in the street.
>She engaged in an illegal barricade
You don't get to kill people because they're standing in the street.
>The counter protesters were not allowed to be there
You don't get to kill people because they're standing in the street.
>If he were to stop his car and reverse it's possible antifa would smash his windows and murder him.
Wish this had really happened. Have fun defending it in court.
Nathan Jones
Roads are for cars. You are putting yourself and others in danger when you block the street.
Angel Nguyen
remove celt
Grayson Perez
apparently she was extremely fat.
Joseph Parker
You don't get to kill people because they're standing in the street.
Isaac Collins
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Jayden Myers
heat of passion defense, won't work here
Christian Watson
Still not an argument
Adam Bell
That really is an excellent point, he was not trying to maximize kills, there was a higher concentration of them elsewhere on the sides and he would have gone even faster not hit the brake lights.
You don't get to stand in the middle of the street and harass people. Then act surprised when one has the wrong reaction and freaks out. The street is for 4000 lb death machines and you should respect vehicles. This method of protesting is playing with fire and needs to come to an end.
Elijah Cooper
Not an argument
Nolan Harris
she was a bystander & a reasonable person standard tells us that he had the mens rea of culpability.
Jonathan Roberts
a reasonable person would have known that it was highly likely someone would be injured by his actions.
that meets the mens rea standard of vehicular manslaughter.
it is a level of recklessness that requires some restitution.
i mean even on a tort level "res ipsat loquitor" theory, but for his action, she would not have been injured.
his self-defense argument is shaky at best.
Jack Rodriguez
She had I'm a stupid antifa fuck
Cameron Rodriguez
Bystander? She hung around and participated in blocking a road illegally where they blocked and harassed cars. That is actively engaging in a disruptive protest which is dangerous. A reasonable person would acknowledge that cars are dangerous machines and harassing random cars who just happens to be going down the road you hijacked is wrong.
Would you want to be barricaded by random protesters and then harassed? Everyone there engaged in a crime. This form of protest needs to come to an end, it's unproductive and shown to be dangerous.
There's other instances of protesters getting ran over due to barricading a row. Intimidating 4000 lb machines is a bad idea.
Mason Taylor
>crowd of people jumping on his vehicle smashing in his windows >it's logical to assume they're screaming something along the lines of "Kill Nazis" >crowd so thick he can't see three feet in front of him You sound like you know law, if you've watched all the videos would you mind explaining to me how his defense is "shaky at best"? I'm not mocking you, I just don't know law and assumed it would be a fairly easy case to defend.
Grayson Campbell
the person with the car has a HIGHER standard of care, he was not provoked so she has not contributory negligence.
Jordan Ramirez
A person died regardless of whether or not the protestors would of attacked him, he is still responsible.
His actions out of fear do not make him invulnerable to the law, in the end he killed someone.
The court will decide this not us, it is not our place to judge him.
Kevin Cook
Wait, I thought the guy was a Nazi? Why did he run over a white person?
Nathaniel Mitchell
> he was not provoked
Owen Roberts
he was far from being provoked given he was three cars away from the main blockade.
other permissible evidence would include the reports that some of the unite the right people actually directed him toward the crowd.
Justin Young
I've seen the video none of the protestors are assaulting the vehicle and even if they were we do not respond to violence with violence we are not savages and attacking people hurts our cause more.
>he was far from being provoked Watch the video of apes swarming his car and beating his windows in after forcing him to stop and surrounding it. It's very clear from context that he is about to be dragged from the vehicle and beaten mercilessly, if not killed.
Mason Garcia
I agree the court will side, I wish to have this version of the story visible instead of the bullshit nonsense story of false flag. Then the story of him being an insane Nazi out to kill from the msm doesn't bode well with me either. He peacefully surrendered, had no weapon on him and then didn't make a larger effort towards making a higher body count.
We are trying to have a discussion on this political topic weather or not the full burden of the blame rests on him or unruly mob protesters who hijacked a road.
See the man with the bat, that's what ignited the fire.
Luke Lewis
>She engaged in an illegal barricade of traffic where her and her fellow counter protesters stopped vehicles. And that allow what now? ground? The castle doctrine? Help me understand how this defense works, you're going to have to convince people you were SO FUCKING SCARED you shit and pissed yourself involuntarily causing your foot to get slick and slip off the brake? You are going to have to argue self defense irrational fear.
Colton Bennett
>You don't get to kill people because they're standing in the street. Actually, that depends on why they're standing in the street.
These weren't protesters. This was an AntiFa combat unit. AntiFa is a paramilitary terrorist organization opposed to freedom of speech and the right to peaceably assemble. They work in groups of mixed armed/unarmed members so they can hide the fact that they're an armed force working together for a common end.
AntiFa was in Charlottesville to attack a peaceful protest and brutalize its attendants to send a message to Americans: you don't have freedom of speech or the right to peaceably assemble unless you have AntiFa's approval.
James Alex Fields was a peaceful protester at a lawful rally which had a permit to be held. He was attempting to go home from the rally after its permit was pulled and the attendees were ordered to leave by police.
Heather Heiffer was part of an AntiFa unit tasked with preventing the orderly dispersal of the protesters and brutalizing them on their way home, to make examples of them so other Americans would be afraid to exercise their right to free speech. She was blocking the road so her armed comrades could attack any stopped cars they identified as containing rally attendees, in full knowledge and acceptance that she might be participating in a murder.
When Fields's car was surrounded and attacked, he fled in the only way AntiFa's tactics allowed: through the blockade.
It was a reasonable act of self-defense against a coordinated attack by a paramilitary combat unit.
Jeremiah Rogers
Alright this changes my opinion on it, do we have any clearer footage on this?
Juan Thomas
i literally and unironically cannot wait until this trial is televised like with zimzam and when the not-guilty verdict is reached i am going to cum in your milkshake so hard
They only use shots of her head because including her body would take three more posters
Joshua Clark
*stand your >ground?
Julian Smith
>deleting your post when you see the evidence when the redpill hits
Brody Mitchell
Airbag does not deploy, radiator survives, not one pic of him at the wheel at the time. Very few people can drive a car in reverse like that. Try it for yourself in a very wide open space. user with pic of car after crime scene tape around car says driver is not person arrested. Don't want to be tin foil but all that needs to be addressed.
Cooper Young
>AntiFa is a paramilitary terrorist organization opposed to freedom of speech Someone got that pic of baseball bats with NZIS on them? I didn't think to save it. You are going to have to prove it.
Matthew Ortiz
All the videos i saw weren't very clear, that other webm has painted a very different picture
Josiah Hill
Not to my knowledge. This is the first I've posted on it, but I've been reading the threads for the past couple days and saving anything I could because I feel like there's a solid chance it WILL be heavily censored. We're already seeing a lot of misinfo, and I'd probably have agreed with you if that video wasn't posted in a thread early yesterday. >tfw every single non-Sup Forumslack you know is talking about how they were peaceful protestors and Killdozer McGenocide ran them over at 100mph while firing his machine gun at pregnant women, and is now being praised by President Hitler for it
Nathan Lee
Thanks for the bump, fag.
James Nelson
>tfw every single non-Sup Forumslack you know is talking about how they were peaceful protestors and Killdozer McGenocide ran them over at 100mph while firing his machine gun at pregnant women, and is now being praised by President Hitler for it same. when i went to work today the normies around were saying this, in not so many words
Gavin Fisher
Wasn't one user claiming they arrested the dude outside his house? I wonder if he was just trolling?
Henry Nguyen
I don't think I've seen this pill dropped in this thread yet. It's by no means complete, but I don't think I saved any of the other tinfoil images.
Ian Davis
I highly doubt any media will show this, because it does solidly show that his vehicle is being attacked in some way.
Even with this it will be impossible to convince most people otherwise now
Daniel Nguyen
Does anyone have any video of her prior to what happened?
Levi Bennett
This picture is what the news made it sound like to me...
Isaiah Hernandez
It's the Berniefags that I can't comprehend, how every five seconds they were crying that their socialist candidate wasn't being fairly portrayed by media and CNN was lying about him, but now they believe every word that comes out of every liberal anchor's mouth no matter how ridiculous.
Ethan Brooks
Awesome
Hudson Brown
anytime...
Kevin Bailey
If we can find her in the videos and see what she was doing we'll know if she was violent or not. More importantly if she was armed!
Connor Evans
Underrated
Jose James
If we can prove she was armed the Left will be stripped of their martyr.
Xavier Sullivan
We should make sure this webm reaches the right people because it might help james case
Ethan Rodriguez
We have to start searching the tapes and see where she is and what she was doing.
Joseph Lee
And yours
Samuel Sullivan
There is nowhere to turn. Only way out is to go the wrong way on a narrow one way street.
Here is Soros and Clinton doing that very thing in Albania, just in case our new friends think that is some type of speculation...it's not and Assange posted the proof. SOP!
Dominic Wood
I have zero followers on YouTube and maybe ten on Normiebook. I wouldn't know where to begin.
Jaxson Edwards
It's the way shit like this comes together that makes them hate us so...
Ryan Robinson
That's a beautiful picture...
Brody Moore
I read a very lengthy article about Clinton/Soros today. Racking my brain to recall and post it for you. Thought it was wnd. Not there now.
Christopher Price
He didn't run over her. He didn't even hit her. She was hit by another car she was blocking, which he rear ended.
He hit others much harder that didn't die. Difference is, they were not fat fucks.
Cameron Roberts
Lol. If he tries this defense in court he's fucked. Most likely he confessed, sperged out about MUH JOOZ in police custody and will take a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Dylan Gonzalez
Can you ease up on the grand conspiracy, reveal the dragon, slay the dragon with one fatal swoop.
I want this thread to be grounded in reality, where we need to win battles one at a time.
Jose Mitchell
Why? Someone posted what amounts to a theory, and I merely pointed out that, yes, that IS how Soros operates he is scum, and that we also have evidence ON THE PUBLIC RECORD that high ranking government officials were complicit and compliant in it.
What percentage of Earth's population would understand appreciate that? You gotta be a one percenter.
Brayden Bell
I want this thread to be for shedding more light to clear James. So many nonsense false flags, grand conspiracy involving billionaires.
Opposed to trying to look out for a 20 year old kid who found himself in a bad situation, went into arguably a state of insanity due to misbehaving illegal criminal protesters. Then peacefully surrendered himself, didn't try his max potential to all out cause most potential harm to others and was unarmed. It just doesn't sound like the guy MSM is trying to depict as a calculated hate filled white supremacist. Domestic terrorists don't have those 3 traits in their acts and I want all this information to get out on the situation itself.
Hunter Powell
Not quite footage, but this is a much closer picture of the guy hitting the car
Brayden White
He is literally speeding into the crowd at that moment. That man is defending himself from the virgin.
Samuel Price
His brake lights were on in other photos of earlier stages of the swing.
Kevin Davis
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Jose Gomez
did you see this? that his defense, a good lawyer needs to weave a tale of woe and terror using the threat of something similar happening, it's that simple.
Ayden Anderson
That is what bugs me user
Eli Cooper
Here's the guilty party...he perpetrated an act of criminal mischief resulting in death and/or injury.
Lincoln Williams
Tell that to Muslims in Europe
Josiah Perry
Moi aussi, mon ami, user.
Jackson Peterson
OH ya how dare he swing at a person committing a terrorist act.
Aiden Rivera
Are you going to address any points or statements or play the strawman game.
Henry Reyes
I'm saying there is more to this story than what I am being told. In two days reasonable doubt has been raised.
Jason Ward
Yes you can actually, in 38 states if you're blocking traffic you're at fault if you get hit
Anthony Stewart
The strawman was set up by the guy I responded too by accusing someone who didn't even hit the car he swung on of being the murderer. What are you budding your retarded in for with nothing to contribute?
yep, it's all a conspiracy and you got it figured out. The man in picutre was actually waving a mind control won, it's all psyops
Michael Miller
This is the thread with a fuck load of webms I believe James Field did nothing wrong
Tyler Moore
No you faggot.
Also before you do pls post a full video of the event so we can see what really happened beforehand.
Funny how you niggers only record the final minute of shit.
Actually don't kys just yet wait awhile so you can witness the driver get off scottfree.
Nathaniel Thompson
he dindu nuffin!
Ethan Hernandez
The burger knows many tongues. Latin included. Thank you. google illuminati and 1111 Did the dukes of hazard drive a challenger named general lee? What statue was it that started all of this. Oh, I digress
Oliver White
He didn't do nothing wrong >he was "racing" twords the crowd (Pic related)
Caleb Phillips
>This was an AntiFa combat unit. AntiFa is a paramilitary terrorist organization opposed to freedom of speech and the right to peaceably assemble. They work in groups of mixed armed/unarmed members so they can hide the fact that they're an armed force working together for a common end.
You still don't get to kill them.
Eli Parker
This was an illegal road barricade, where 2 motorists were stopped before him. Then antifa as a group are notorious for being/getting violent. This was a dumb 20yo kid who wanted to show his support for a controversial group. In enemy territory he saw things might escalate in the heart if this is what was beginning to start in the fringe of the mob.
That picture is the starting point where he incited panic/state of insanity. There is no need for insults, this is just the two of us having a conversation trying to get to the bottom of things.
Eli Moore
Meh dude lets cum together xD
Caleb Diaz
>I believe James Field did nothing wrong I believe he was trying to start a fight, but ultimately it was the counterprotestors who took the bait and threw the first punch. After that, it was one man versus a violent mob of maybe a hundred or more. Field, if he is a real natsoc and this isn't a psyop, was a fucking idiot and not morally innocent, but I don't believe he went outside the bounds of the law in any way exceeding misdemeanors in response to the threats against his person.
