The Eagle is the only symbol that can trigger a right wing response in the American people. Until every last TRAITOR has separated themselves from our Greco-Roman symbology, we will not move forward, and Trump will not approve. THE BATTLE IS FOR THE MINDS OF PEOPLE
> Any government in the U.S. (local,state, federal) will feel obligated to protect the U.S. flag, and any violence against it cannot be portrayed as moral
> Any (((subversive outliers))) will stand out like a sore thumb
> It is lawful in every way to carry the U.S. flag and say anything you want to define it. You should at least want to try to have your ideas integrated into the massive institutions that already exist until full betrayal has occurred and is perceived as so
> Any partitioning symbology will be perceived as weak individualism by strong people and leaders within power as well as citizens and members within the movement. everyone will be watching
> There is a tactical reason Trump used the American symbolism he did and it worked
> There are too many disadvantages of not defining yourself, WHEN NATIONALISM IS ALL ABOUT DEFINING YOURSELF
> Strength is in unity. Undisciplined mobs are easily divided and distracted by paid agitators
> If you cannot manage a crowd of violent homosexuals as non-violently as possible, your voice will not be allowed to be heard. This can only be done by working and moving together and unifying under a common cause.
Jordan Cook
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Christian Moore
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Kayden Adams
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Kevin Russell
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Levi Morales
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Elijah Edwards
bump.
Was mulling this over after the Discord yesterday. Have formed some strategies to win us the favor of Jews, blacks and other non-whites while also fighting Israel and Zionism. Need a name for the movement tho. Couple initial ideas
>American Resistance Movement >Patriots United >Defenders of Liberty
Brody Myers
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Justin Collins
I made a thread similar to this earlier, I have a feeling that most people are not going to trust the Alt-Right, as it is too far out for many people and most Americans.
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Even though the Alt-Right is hella appealing at this point, it's probably not the best option, the solution would simply just be an "American Nationalist" group or something of that nature.
Cameron Wilson
BASED RIGHT WING EAGLE OF LIBERTY AGAINST COMMUNISTS AND ENFORCED EQUALIZATION OF ALL MAN
Jonathan Harris
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Levi Perez
Good goy points are not going to win us anything. We don't have to trash everything we have now. It is still very young and undefined. We just need to integrate
Joshua Gutierrez
>We don't have to trash everything we have now. like what exactly?
Tyler Turner
white identitarianism
Joseph Jenkins
keep this
Noah Gonzalez
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Aaron Scott
>white identitarianism
who said throw it out? you can have white identitarianism without coming across as an "evil raycis!"
Liam Martin
I agree. We just need a moral symbol that can carry it
Parker Bennett
true. have you considered that if we create a solid strategy with clearly defined goals and rules, we may have an easier time deciding on a symbol to represent the ideolgy?
Mason Thomas
the snake and eagle can be perceived both ways depending on how it is used. But perhaps the "don't tread on me" individualism is weak and needs to go. Individualism is a cattle fence that only white people believe in. Who has to demand not to be treaded on?
Ayden Anderson
YES. And it may even be capable of being recognized lawfully and legitimately while at the same time pushing as far as things need to go. At the very least there will be many sympathizers within existing government like Trump himself. He might even find us useful at that point
Joseph Garcia
awwww yeah! how would you feel about meeting up in a thread every day or couple of days to discuss matters of policy? each thread we could discuss and debate the value of things like
>civic nationalism, ethnonationalism, etc. so we may conclude exactly which stance we will promote >what to do about Jews and the JQ >how to have non-whites in the movement (we do need them) without losing our white identity
and so forth. would you be up for that sometime?
Kayden Lewis
Thats what I'm trying to do
>"Jews" I believe there is a good purpose in expressing a cultural definition of exploitation that intersects with international jewry. I saw an interview with a polish official that referred all matters pertaining to jewish people to the Knesset. This is the way to go. international relation
>"non-whites" idk at this point. most non-whites do not organize like this anyway. If it is openly pro white and a non-white accepts this, it is a win, thats really all we need
Juan Perry
>international relation we could limit Jewish involvement to finance and public relations. could later convince the diaspora Ashekenaz (((white))) Jews they aren't actually Jews and that they should embrace Europeanism/Americanism while opposing Zionism? pic mostly related
>If it is openly pro white and a non-white accepts this, it is a win, thats really all we need true
Jace Gonzalez
one worry about the bald eagle is that its population increased after the passage of some act banning DDT, as I recall. Leftists are going to push this as a victory for environmental legislation (which we want to get rid of, obviously) and their agenda more generally. So I worry that using the eagle is going to backfire. For that reason I think we should use Trump's big tasty cock as our symbol; we could have images of leftists sucking it, or we could suck it ourselves to demonstrate our subservience to our Fuehrer.
Eli Brooks
integration is their only weakness. This is why so many people have 1% "jewish" DNA. Israel has the highest rate of skin cancer next to colonial Australia. Majority of them are majority European by ancestry. I don't think they could righteously betray majority of their European ancestry for a meme country. maybe some. but they can be isolated culturally. We need a stronger culture anyway because ours is falling apart
Isaac Nguyen
Trump represents the will of the people
Isaiah Gomez
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>Gain support by aligning ourselves with the MAGA crowd >Present ourselves an a legit alternative to the Alt-Right and get tons of members >March against ANTIFA and Communism peaceably while demanding Trump declares ANTIFA a domestic terrorist organization effectively destroying them >March against ALTRIGHT because they're connected to ANTIFA while demanding Trump declares the Alt-Right a domestic terrorist organization effectively destroying them >Suddenly we're the only group remaining >Reclaim white nationalism >March against open borders in America >March against white genocide in Europe and South Africa >Inform diaspora Jews they arent Jews and that they should embrace their European/Spaniard sides >Expose the theocratic State of Israel as the force behind evil Jews like Soros >March against Zionism >??? >profit!
am i missing anything here?
Aiden Ortiz
>attacking the snek Fuck that eagle
Justin Bailey
I want to be careful how we oppose the Alt-right. Most are demoralized at this point. If we present a stronger message that is openly pro white and skeptical of internationalism, 90% will flock over. The previous nationalist movements of this type died because of in-fighting. literally killing each other. However a symbolic defeat of any failed movement can allow something new to be reborn.
Samuel Mitchell
read the article in the link. you don't have to be a snake. it is a dialectic. are you a snake or a white man?
Christopher Perez
>The previous nationalist movements of this type died because of in-fighting.
if we give ourselves three months to write down a clear ideology, movement structure and statement, we could raise the $$$ required to plan our first large protest. I have some connections in the American Nazi Party which could be tapped. And I know of a media outlet which may be willing to act as the propaganda arm of this movement. The strategy of Americanism over Nazism looks promising.
Jayden Martin
I vote "universal nationalism". but this is a great idea all around. a quick rebrand to get the normies on board. it needs to be something that will allow america to defend her identity as a white nation without the MUH GENOCIDE most people think when they hear nationalism.
Evan Clark
A manifesto is needed for sure
Jaxson Jackson
True. The "white genocide" meme is a very weak defensive position. the best defense is a good offense
Austin Collins
(checked) omni-nationalism is the way
how would you go about ending white genocide without saying white genocide?
Xavier Cruz
I like where this is going and I think you'd get a lot of support for it. I think most people in america want something to identify with and want to cherish their roots. they are either afraid to because of the nazi meme or they don't know how to articulate something that won't get them ostracized.
>the best defense is a good offense exactly. the new message should be a message of strength and hope. people aren't drawn to a sinking ship. no leader won hearts be talking about doom and gloom
Ayden Cook
Women tend also to be the first to flee a sinking ship
Thomas Powell
Make it a falcon It's more important than you think Eagles are practically vultures Falcons are really the apex
Sebastian Nelson
opposition to existence. white genocide sounds like we are all dead already
Nicholas Ross
The eagle has a long history as a European battle symbol. The Greeks and Roman would paint their shield with the eagle and snake as either, approaching, attacking, or eating, depending on the status of their struggle. This is useful. read the article in the link
Angel White
good. maybe attack WG on all fronts that way. could oppose degeneracy while promoting moderation. at least in public. can still say "white genocide" on social media anonymously to shift overton window mebbe.
John Perez
I agree. Opposing the degeneracy of white people IS opposing genocide, and all people should be sympathetic
Joseph Rivera
yeah, it doesn't really matter the actual behavior of the animal. it's symbolic. and americans can really identify with an eagle. memed hard enough the eagle can be appropriated as a symbol of the right like what happened with the "USA" chant
Hunter Barnes
opposing degeneracy and promoting communtiy engagement and personal empowerment and improvement should be the focus
Owen Reyes
This is what Trump needs. he has made a huge sacrifice and we should help provide him the type of support needed to preserve the existence of our people and a future for white children
Zachary Jackson
this
Nolan Cruz
I will be posting this every day. make some suggestions to add
Brandon Adams
No. We need to enlighten the brainwashed. Open eyes. Let logic win, while making the unreasonable see the truth.
Blake Barnes
both can be accomplished. you can redefine the movement such that its goal promote white nationalism in america (under a different name) and nationalism abroad in other countries, encouraging people to stay with their own people and improve their own countries. the movement however needs a normie friendly front to draw in people and then you slowly reveal the broader goals in a logical and not shocking way.
Gavin Ramirez
That is the purpose. That is what this achieves. The left has a religious stranglehold on people. This is how you fight it. human instinct is predictable. Religion is the thought representation of a group and can be expressed in many different forms.
Xavier Brown
Time to do some work but we could discuss these problems next thread:
If the goal is a white majority country, we could go straight to the "white countries for whites" mantra but then we will only attract people who already agree while distancing our target audience. Yet, if we go the Civic Nationalism route we will distance not only our target audience but ethno-nationalists.
If we allow Jews to take leading roles in the movement this will distance anyone aware of the JQ, however, if we do not allow Jews to take leading roles in the movement this will distance our target audience who may not be aware of the JQ.
Blake Wood
I think this type of movement would be best promoted as an INTRA-NATIONAL movement and defined as a nation by the people who participate and sympathize.
Elijah Allen
i think most people, white people, are aware of the displacement of white people, but they can't say so because the solution is always implied genocide. the problem and solution need to always be presented side by side. you can bring on other races by showing that you believe all races have the right to such countries
agreed, a movement only needs a small minority of strong willed people to guide it, the rest will take their cues from the strong.
Andrew Anderson
The nation state as we know it is transforming rapidly. Crypto-currencies and the free flow of information makes the territorial imperative a new different type of goal. Reliance on a magic dirt is almost obsolete
Jacob Gonzalez
May I suggest we call it "National Socialism"?
Eli Wright
I view socialism as something that occurs naturally within the nuclear family. Promote nuclear family, traditional values, and national identity, such things naturally fall into place without a nostalgia of the 1930's
Kayden Sanchez
Objectively the correct answer. When someone asks you about your politics, just state "I am a nationalist, and a socialist." instantly any conservative or liberal will perk up and want to know about this seemingly contradictory worldview, then you can discuss it more. It's helped convert so many people in my time.
gods speed, Americans
Logan Lewis
This. We need to reclaim our aesthetic from decades of leftist subversion. The founders were explicit white nationalists. We should put the swastika aside and take back the flag. There is no benefit to defining ourselves as the 'alternative' we are the only option, because we are the real Americans.
Joseph Walker
Hitler was trying to resurrect the Roman Empire anyway. America in a way was an attempt to resurrect the Roman Republic. America won
Leo Hernandez
after a time, yes. but leading off with that will turn away so many people. you call it something else, and only after it has already taken root will someone speak up and say, "hey, isn't this just national socialsim?"
