Alright listen up fuckers because this is how things are going to work from now on...

Alright listen up fuckers because this is how things are going to work from now on. Either you follow these instructions or your movement dies. The Alt-right needs to reject Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists. White Nationalism is fine, we can easily sell this to anybody with more than a couple of brain cells until the cows come home.

National Socialists you can keep your ideology when it comes to government systems but you need to drop the toxic branding. Call yourselves State Socialists or something from now on. It means the exact same thing but is free from any negative associations... Or come up with another term, I don't really care because I'm not personally a "State Socialist".

You're never again to paint Hitler or the Nazis in a positive light, this is an albatross, and you will always have absolutely nothing to gain from this. I wouldn't even waste your time trying to explain to people how "Yah know, the Nazis really weren't that bad". Your wasting everybody else's and your own time on this and you're better off sticking to tactics that you know everybody can get behind(e.g. Whites deserve to maintain their interests in their own country and not be subject to genocide.) You can still advocate on behalf of whites and oppose Jewish manipulators but you are NOT allowed use the utterly useless and counter-productive Nazi and "Fascist" branding. You are State Socialists now if you must be and you are Alt-Right for all intents and purposes.

Anyone that has a problem with or violates these new rule will from hereon be deemed a shill or mentally unfit and will be cast out of the Alt-Right Movement.

Start working on some new aesthetics

Other urls found in this thread:

teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/new-nationalism-speech/
youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk
aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anarchism.html
fee.org/articles/the-nature-of-government-by-ayn-rand/
youtube.com/watch?v=My2sLnHpyG4
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Nice blog bro

fuck off you stupid LEAF

First thread here To get you guys caught up, we're trying to remove all the Nazi-larping from the alt-right movement. Right now there are some interesting developments as a leaf is trying to seek an alliance with the Hoteps.

Fuck off nigger.

go back to Mexico you short smelly beaner.

How about Democrats denounce Yvette Felarca first?

Muh PR

bump.I vote for starting the American traditionalism party

...

Oh no, our goose is cooked now.

I say if you want a good greek aesthetic take the symbol of Aphrodites, the goddess of love. This way we can play the liberals at their own game and if MSM tries to look into the symbol, they'll find that it means love.

That's actually the second one. Both have good stuff. First one:

the nazis are dead. stop using them as an allegory for modern day racism.

fuck I forgot to actually pin it tho

I just saw that Trump didn't throw us under the bus. Or more accurately he didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. At this point I'm thinking it would be in our best interest to drop theAlt-Rightmonicker, Spencer, and any of those that won't agree to follow the rules set out in OP

Anyone take issue with this? We should start thinking of a new umbrella term. ..People that associate with the Alt right got lucky in that it was only one death that we can disavow and we can separate ourselves from it with a clean slate

NAZIS GTFO. YOUR AUTISM KILLS LITERALLY EVERYTHING. WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THIS SHIT HAPPEN

Again. We need to purge ourselves of the Alt Right monicker. Normies and the Gen pop are now fearful and hateful of this term. It's counter productive

there are no nazis you dumb faggot

Eat shit.

Emphasis ought to be put on the specifically European heritage of whites around the globe; to make not only a polical movement, but also a cultural a movement for whites around the globe to rediscover their ancestors.

From there you can convince whites that they are worth preserving in their own states.

Bumping with copypasta from old thread:

merican Traditionalist Party

Advocate for ethnic advocacy (lol minorities get this regardless, sound better than white nationalism), Advocate for free speech absolutism. Be Nationalist to a fault. Freedom of association (libertarian segregation). Support ethnonationalism for all cultures, lean in to condemning the migrant crises (this will filter antiwhites). Stand for capitalism and Charity, Etc

Neotradition: use scientific arguments for gender roles, diversity being weakness, realities of law enforcement, realistic goals and IQ, full Peterson on the need for religion and personal responsibility. Hard stance on health and fitness (much costs)

American aesthetics with nods to Rome. Zero tolerance for larping at our events. Contraband bined and immolated. America won that war (even if it's too bad we did)

By popular request there is now @amtradparty on the Twitter

Bumping:

American Traditionalist Party

Advocate for ethnic advocacy (lol minorities get this regardless, sound better than white nationalism), Advocate for free speech absolutism. Be Nationalist to a fault. Freedom of association (libertarian segregation). Support ethnonationalism for all cultures, lean in to condemning the migrant crises (this will filter antiwhites). Stand for capitalism and Charity, Etc

Neotradition: use scientific arguments for gender roles, diversity being weakness, realities of law enforcement, realistic goals and IQ, full Peterson on the need for religion and personal responsibility. Hard stance on health and fitness (much costs)

American aesthetics with nods to Rome. Zero tolerance for larping at our events. Contraband bined and immolated. America won that war (even if it's too bad we did)

By popular request there is now @amtradparty on the Twitter

"Antifa scum" "You're all dumb"

I'm practically a Boomer. Sorry for double post lads.

the part about encouraging ethnic nationalism for all races should really be stressed here. If we get other minorities excited about their heritage, we can make nationalism fashionable. Despite the anger this topic brings to people, white pride need not be a hateful thing at all, and we really shouldn't sell it that way.

Currently, I'm trying to turn pic related into a "white-nationalist-black-nationalist alliance" flag. I'm going to replace the swastika with the cross and the snek with the black fist. Thoughts?

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100% correct. They are there to fuck up the movement. No thinking person can wake up on the day of a rally, pick up their chinese made polyester-swastika shit or KKK regalia and say, "Yah. This is a good idea. I'm going to wear this shit out in public have have it not fuck up the burgeoning MODERN identity movement."
Sorry. You are mentally retarded if you do that. They need to be boxed the fuck out. Be a Nazi in your fucking basement. Heil fucking hitler all day long over your Macaroni and cheese dinner. Just fuck off with that. Either come and be serious about saving Western Civilization and promoting a racially conscious group or fuck off. Don't show up. You're wearing the uniform of histories FAILURES. You're RETARDED. Stop. You will be labeled as intentionally trying to fuck the movement up. You will be treated like Anti-Fa because what is the difference...you're fucking us up WORSE than they are.

NAZI IMAGERY NOT WELCOME. FUCK THE FUCK OFF WITH THAT SHIT ALREADY

Communist scum! You're all dumb! Etc

I like this flag but lions aren't native to the continent

I will be copying your posts and posting them every now and then. Lets make it a usual thing and post /atg/ threads. /American Traditionalism General/

I think more people need to understand that the rise of Nazi Germany was in response to Communism.
The justification for the Holocaust is that most of the Communist leaders where Jewish.
What would the Japanese-American internment camps look like if America was bombed to death like the Nazis were?

We always had the horrors of Nazis pushed on us, but I have never heard about the Spanish and German revolutions in any of my history classes, or the true nature of Communism with how it eradicates any national pride so that the population becomes a total slave to the communist state.

This is a important lesion that everybody should learn.
What happens when you have violent communist protesters?
You get Nazis.

This fucking pleb.

We never called ourselves alt right. The media branded us with this moniker.

Don't give a flying fuck about any of your monikers. I will not participate in your bullshit branding scheme.

>movement
As if.

Liberal kike - this isn't a fucking club.
Take your social engineering horseshit to Twitter.

NOT a leftie, NOT alt right, NOT centrist. NONE of your fucking business.

defiantly straddling that fence!

Identity Politics aren't right wing

taking all this into account, can't we reserve this conversation for later? This stuff just isn't palatable. Nazi inevitably scares people away.

>White Nationalism
Even Fox news is condemning that. You can't have anything ethnic at all.

>National Socialist
Way to show what Nazism really is as ethnic Socialism.

Did you not read where I said that I was removing the swastika?

Another good post from last thread:

what part of "Dress Like A Grown-up" is confusing to you?
do you propose that properly fitting jeans and a t-shirt is too casual?
look around you
it's pretty much the standard dress for americans not actually at work right now

anyone wearing niggerish club-wear, spergy or meme'd out tees or fucking pepe pins is gonna be obviously a larper, but polos and khakis is the uniform for wage cucks.
i have no intention of stepping out dressed for an evening asking "you want fries with that?"

dressing up in your grandfather's suit and tipping your fedora is likewise, a one way ticket to faggotville, population: YOU

if we all wind up looking like we just got off shift at wal-mart, how do you think that will play?

better we should look like mormon missionaries than minimum wage burger flippers or goddamned gay cowboys eating pudding

Fashion Tips:
>keep the denim below the belt. jeans jackets and denim shirts are for rentboys and rednecks
>no loud colors except in a tie or pocket square
> socks are non-optional (that means no fucking sandals! what, are you a fucking hippie?)
> if your wearing a short sleeved shirt or anything other than a basic oxford, NO FUCKING TIES
> shoes are also non-optional
> dont wear shit you might see on a nigger heading out to "da club"
> be clean, neat and present yourself like an adult
> find a fucking barber and learn to use a razor
> no goddamned swearing in public
> anything that sounds like it might come from 4-chan, STAYS ON 4-chan!!!
> no memes. EVER.
> stay calm, reasonable and adult, let the lefties sperg out.
> chants should be family freindly and incidentally hilarious like : "hey hey, ho ho, i respect your right to be wrong!"
> think how you want, but always look like Leave It To Beaver

anything else will play into the lugenpresse's hands

This guy gets it.

And, another:

Aesthetics and aim is important:

The Right PROTECTS

The Left DESTROYS

That needs to be the mantra. I liked the shields etc, you need more of that.

The right needs to adopt the simple (and true) aim of "PROTECTING Western Civilisation", you need the aura of stoic knights. Unmasked, strong, protectors of the civilisation who are also proud to be part of it.

This will be in the face of Antifa's Masked, radical (they're practically ISIS pulling those statues down) screaming, violent, destruction. You NEED the view that you have shields, they have weapons.

This is exactly how you gain support of the centrists. Alt-left wants to destroy, cause change, you want to protect, keep things safe. The average normie doesn't like change, doesn't like radicalism, this is what the left are pushing and you need to show it.

The slow drip of change is no more, now they're pushing it loud and hard, which is exactly what you need. Now put up those shield walls and get the people supporting you, they WILL choose the group that opts for safety and security, over that which pushes radical change.


Trump has called them out for being the violent faggots they are. Most normies probably think of lefties as the loving hippies, now they'll be thinking "man they are pretty violent and dangerous aren't they.. Look at them attacking those young lads who just want to protect.."

SIEZE this, USE the branding, whenever you're about to say "Antifa" or "Commies", use "Alt Left", this will hit harder to home for normies.

God speed America. I can only hope we follow you someday.

Fuck you faggots!

Get me on Twitter @AmTradParty

Paste bin or something?

I think it is an important fight that needs to be fought right now.
They call themselves anti fascists to justify all their violence.
Nobody wants to be the person to defend 'those ebil nazes' so they just let the violent communists create groups and assault people that disagree with them.
Communism is made to look so clean and PC when in reality it has caused so much bloodshed and all their ideals involve the destruction of society, Fascism is just a response to that. "Do you think your way of life and your beliefs are worth fighting for?" if you say yes you are a Fascist.

We need for people to understand at the very least that communism is a plague upon humanity and that the Nazis rose to power in very dark times, where the people wanting to make concentration camps to store people who could start a bloody revolution seemed like the best choice.
Hitler did nothing wrong.
America turned a ship of jewish refugees away because they didn't want to take in communists.

This is stuff people need to know. But it's not a good or necessary introduction.

Anything white = Racist when a white person says it

White anything = Racist when a white person says it

Alt-right = Racist

It is how it is cause you don't own the media. If you wanna call yourself anything, you call yourself American. If you identify as a larping group, you will be vilified and destroyed in detail as racist and you will be alone.

yes and im saying dump the whole fucking flag. why are you guys so attached to nazi stuff that you can't set it aside for a larger purpose?

I agree. The racist shit needs to end if people want to get their point across and make a difference.

We have too much at risk to let some shit head KKK idiots fuck it up.

Listen up fucker,
What you said is good except for one thing, now you must even abandon your name 'Alt-right.' Its origins are deeply rooted in violent or quasi-violent white supremacism.
This requirement should not surprise you because the Charlottesville gathering was indeed a mission to unite the right, and having suceeded, the Right must prevail.

I rejoice at our success. I pray for temperance and wisdom for us all from the many Heavenly Fathers, and I look forward to walking boldly with you into the next chapter of the saga.

Its not that unreasonable.
The LITERAL COMMIES call themselves anti fascist as a cloak, because the Nazis are considered absolute evil when the commies are the truly evil ones.

I don't want to live in a fascist society, but I would pick it over communism any day.

put it in the god damn text books once we've won for all I fucking care. It's such a non-priority; people are utterly repulsed by anything and everything nazi. How do you not see this?

First of all, nothing in that flag is Nazi besides the Swastika. Second of all, I'm really not attached to Nazi stuff. It's just a useful template for flags combining two ideologies.

>new umbrella term

Honestly the fastest way to red pill people on the JQ is to be a blabbermouth good goy.

"Dude the 1% is half the Jews in the country, stop blaming them. It's antisemitism."

No need to rehabilitate Hitler, just point out much overrepresented minority (but white knight a little). People can't unsee it.

Basically we gotta start following a TR sense of Nationalism. Read link below:

teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/new-nationalism-speech/

After two hours, it's finally done. This flag represents the Alliance of white nationalists and black nationalists working together to restore racial identity. It's a little sloppy, but I think it gets the point across.

Any thoughts? I'd like to hear some critique or suggestions.

I like it. Make it about them.

I know what you are going for. I would do gen identitaire instead of WN cross. The black power fist is fine. Does hotep have it's own thing?

Anyone who unironically disagrees with this is either controlled opposition or too dumb to be of any use to us. Sorry not sorry, LARPing is fun on a Cambodian weaving board but we have a real battle to win, and it's a battle of hearts and minds (like it always is).

Regardless of what you think of Trump, "Make America Great Again" resonated as a slogan because it invoked American traditionalism. That's what Americans want. That's what WE want. We need to connect the dots with proper branding, or the media will strike a blow that alienates too much of the populace, and then we lose the battle before it's even begun.

Be smart. Be mature. I'm not asking any of you to compromise your ideals, I'm saying we need to be cognizant of how we present ourselves.

This a thousand times over. Read the pragmatist writers. American made philosophy

Said this up in the thread. Need to pivot under a new banner.

The media is actually saying that "Antifa has emerged to fight the Alt Right".. .. They emerged,,,

Neither are Donkeys and Elephants. Well, maybe donkeys.

Either way, I like the lion as a symbol. Main the golden trump mane give us courage.

Not that I know of. But yeah, identitaire would be a good idea. Back to work, I guess!

This looks great but I don't think we can go under this logo anymore.. Also, Nazi colors. Looks great though

>The Alt-right needs to
> muh alt right
plebit please gtfo

We need Objectivism. I posit that Aristotle, John Locke, and Ayn Rand are 3 greatest individuals to ever walk the face of the earth. Furthering Objectivism and an appreciation for Ayn Rand is what all our supposed Republican defenders are missing. Even people like Ben Shapiro and (my personal fav) Bill Whittle lack her final completion to the formula they've been seeking.
Reminder that Objectivism is the only possible /final/ redpill, and that Libertarianism is incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology.
youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk
Objectivism is Nationalist, Capitalist, Individualist, Egoist, Libertarian, Minarchist, and Meritocratic all rolled into one. I would (overarchingly) add the ONLY thing thd US founding fathers lacked to the Constution; a rejection of the primordial evil that is Altruism.
I would add Objectivism, whose essence had been stated in "the right to the pursuit of happiness". But only implicitly. Objectivism states the glorious engine that is the American morality explictly.
Cultural Marxists and 'Nazis' are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded, Objectivism is the greatest threat Commies have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy.
The dreaded, horrible secret that academic philosophers face is that Objectivism is not -a- Philosophy but THE Philosophy. Hers holds the particular distinction of being the first ever formulated META-Philosophy. And psudeo-intellectuals the world over are perpetually butthurt over this incontrovertible fact. Yes fact, I do not exaggerate. Including it among their other disaparate half formed, half actualized "philosophies", they find it eats everything it comes into contact with. Despite what these sorts of people would have to say it isn't Ayn Rand but academia as it stands that is "the joke".

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You fuckers still have a chance in this. TRUMP defended you from this. Don't let him down now and continue dumb shit nazi salutes in public! THIS IS VITAL! You MUST keep peace if you ever go out and do another rally. Get your permit. Protest. PEACEFULLY. But Still be armed ready to defend yourself. The next time shit goes down it will be recorded. TRUMP STATED IT WAS SELF DEFENSE. Make sure the media doesn't catch you being the aggressors. Lefty bastards can't help but chimp out when they see you. Let the media and everyone catch them being the violent animals they are!

DO NOT FUCK THIS UP AGAIN. NEO-NAZI, STORMFRONT, KKK HAS BEEN DENOUNCED!
You have a second chance to do this right!!!

True, the way people worship Hitler Like a God is worrisome.
I believe they are just filling the space in their heart for a Monarch with a dead man.

I wish there was a less loaded white advocacy symbol, but you dunno good user.

Maybe the Black power symbol color inverted? It's appropriation but fuck it lol

If I'm being honest, I really don't lose much sleep over Jew-related matters. What redpilled me wasn't some shocking statistic, but several hours of Jared Taylor speeches. He added a certain romanticism to the subject that had previously been missing, and afterward I felt like I had been awoken from a trance.

This guy gets it. The best way to attract people to your movement is to embody the characteristics that they wish they could see in themselves. Image is important.

Project strength. Project nobility. Project professionalism. It will make the screaming leftists look like lunatics by comparison. That's how we win.

Jesus, dat spin...

Part 2

I had this idea for a "Meritocratic Party". Declare the Republican Party a failure to the right and vow to push it to the "center" (which I view, essentially, as a giant Middle ground Fallacy anyway) and claim the right in its stead. Invite all Libertarians, Constitution Party members, and Paleocons disgusted with the GOP and form this new Meritocratic Party. It would be necessary to get a bunch of big name supporters to simultaneously endorse it and even convert some big name celebs in a surprise event. Can't be a "minor" party like the old Libertarians, this has to be a threat as a major one on it's inception.
Imagine if Trump made this statement while also extending an apologetic olive branch to PaleoConservatism while also expressing his disdain for neocons, RINOs, cuckservatives, and "crypto-Democrats" (as I like to say). Imagine. Got the idea from Bill Whittle's (superold) "Piranha Party" Afterburner. Meritocrat Piranhas?
In this new 3 party America the new Republicans in the ""center"" would be able to say the this society is a Constitutional Representative *Republic* and their party simply reflects this reality. So then the Democrats and Meritocrats to either side must say that their intent to do is is to modify the society with more Democracy and Meritocracy to the left/right respectively.

I'd also coin the term "Full-Right". A term to oppose the lefty go-tos of "Far" and "Extreme Right" which we will undoubtedly be labeled. "Full Right" refers to the entire thing; that is to say, both lightly right and as right as one could possibly go, and everything in between. It sounds arrogant but history has prove that it is truly the Wrong(left) and the Right.

All nazi imagery. The iron cross is that...yes.

(((Marketing))) fuck off.

"Alt-right" is meaningless. It was invoked because this community needed to be referenced socially. Why stand under an umbrella when it is a sun-shiny day?

Part 3-ish


Also, regarding AnCaps: reminder that while AnCapism means well and is certainly preferable to statism but is utterly inferior to Laissez-faire Capitalism. LfCap>AnCap for the same reason Minarchism>Anarchism and THAT is because objective law>polycentric law. Read a little of these lexicons to discover why.
aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anarchism.html
fee.org/articles/the-nature-of-government-by-ayn-rand/
Ayn Rand's criticism of pure anarchism is irrefutable, especially in C:TUI and TVoS. I like Molymeme but a case against anarchism can be observed in his attempt, and failure, to "rebutt" Ayn Rand.
youtube.com/watch?v=My2sLnHpyG4
Observe the comment section.

Definitely cool looking. I am skeptical of a black/white separatist alliance working out terribly well, but it would make for good optics.

black+red = evil looking

If you don't realize that wars are won and lost because of marketing you're either a moron or have never studied history in your life.

Me neither. It's only a problem when people are unaware. As soon as you know the "right fellow whites?" Gaslighting is neutralized.

>Anyone that has a problem with or violates these new rule will from hereon be deemed a shill or mentally unfit and will be cast out of the Alt-Right Movement.

Fuck off faggot.

You don't determine this, debate does.

The #1 rule should be: if you disavow Hitler and the NSDAP, you are a cuck. This will make you look WEAK. It's true on the internet, and it's true in real life--I see no reason why this shouldn't be the case. If this thread is in response to the fake news reporting about "neo-nazis" because of that guy with the swastika flag, you are a fucking retard. The only people who watch/read the fake news are boomers, some Gen X, and commies. Last time I checked we're not reaching out to commies. They are a lost cause.

We are reaching out to the disadvantaged white men under 30. Men who have lost all reason to care about anything. If we look good and project force, they will want to join us. It doesn't matter if we paint Hitler in a positive light. In fact, that will make more people interested. More fake news will talk about it, spurring these men to find out about us. I'm not saying we replicate the NSDAP aesthetic, but disavowing Hitler does absolutely NOTHING but hurt us.

We need as many young white men as we can get. A war is coming. There is no way this can end politically. Those who have mastered the streets will master the state.

OMG you're right. I didn't see it at first but now it all makes sense... Alright guys pack it up. This guy figured it out.

I don't like the way "Traditionalist" rolls off the tongue. I had a thought that something like "Americans United Front". It sounds good, it puts America first, and it pays homage to the national motto. I think a good motto for the movement would be "Divisi Cadimus" - divided we fall.

This cannot be understated. We were lucky that Trump deflected some of the fallout tonight, but he can't do that after every debacle. We as a movement have to grow up and play the game like mature adults and not autistic manchildren.

This isn't going to be popular, but we need to start letting blacks and Mexicans into the conversation.

Hear me out.

What is the essence of German nationalism? That Germans of all soil must be united right? Volksdeutscher ideology is tailor made for Germans, their nationalism suits the people who evolved in German speaking lands perfectly.

America is different. Like it or not, the leftist meme of "nation of immigrants" is true. We all came from somewhere else. Even when the American colonies were first founded, there were numerous white minorities dispersed amongst the English population. Germans, Swedes, Pollacks, etc. We have always lived near Indians and blacks.

We are collectively the descendants of colonists. We need to throw off the yoke of the colonizers and embrace the role of the colonized. We need to redefine the Monroe Doctrine to not only mean we won't tolerate any state intervention from foreign governments, but we won't tolerate any foreign influence at all. Fuck Europe. Fuck Asia. Fuck Africa. Everything we need is right here.

As for ethnic makeup, I think that we should try to best replicate the racial makeup of the original Thirteen Colonies. White supermajority, small minorities (keyword small) of Natives and mestizos, smaller population of blacks. Hell, you can even do a covert sterilization program of them.

Throw in some environmentalism and anti-corporate mindset and BAM. TR nationalism. It's a winning formula.

I like it. The flag obviously needs to be changed though.

>Ayn Rand
>wrote a fantasy sex novel about capitalism
>greatest individual to ever walk the face of the earth

KEK

Only morons like white nationalism

No reason to disavow. But wrapping yourself in the garb of the vanquished is a good way to join them.

...but mah identity. How will they know how awesome I am if they don't know I'm a nazi/Alt-right/natsoc/whitepower.

If you wanna to identify yourself as a fucking nazi identitarian snowflake join the left. We are all Americans, we are the majority and we decide who gets to build the wall.

If you have something to say, say it and it will be judged on its merrit and not because its "mah hilter identity".

Hitler was an art school faggot who got bullied to death by a slav, a cripple and a fat drunk.

You are mentally ill

Blacks can't be evil.

You cannot expunge the Nazis as villains in the minds of the masses. It's nonsense to think otherwise.

The average person will reel in horror without regard to the message you have or the historical education tacked onto it.

yup

Wow OP with a actual IQ?
Can it be?

I don't know about that actually. I think this guy had a really great point.