Romania vs Hungary

can someone give me a quick rundown on why these hate eachother?

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As I understand it a big stickler was the Treaty of Trianon, forced upon Hungary after the First World War. Hungary lost like 2/3 of its land and millions of ethnic Hungarians to other states. Romania got a huge portion of Hungarian Transylvania. To this day, there is still a significant Hungarian population in the szekely land. (Majority in some parts)
I'm not certain what has affected modern-Day relations, but I certainly know that the Hungarian minority is a concern.

You forgot to say that the territories lost by Hungary all had a non-hungarian majority.

Transilvania

And now they have a Hungarian minority on all sides of the border, because the thieves were too greedy stealing clay. Why on earth does Romania control a large blob of land with ethnic Hungarian majority?

Land disputes and past offences. Same shit all countries have a beef about, just a little bit more.

In most of Transylvania? yes. But in some regions (szekely land) Hungarians, then and now were/are ethnic majority.

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Transilvania anschluss when?

Because we are better than them.

They're obsessed with vampires.

Never.
We became a cuck nation, with a lot of words and no army.

old map, the red is way way down

Forget to mention it was intentional.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systematization_(Romania)

That map is not accurate, at least not now.

Also, serves you right for trying to aggressively expand because WE WUZ KANGZ.

Trianon was justified and if you look someone to blame, Hungary, you need only look into the mirror.

Pretty much these

>Trianon was justified and if you look someone to blame, Hungary, you need only look into the mirror.

elaborate

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ethnographic_map_of_austrian_monarchy_czoernig_1855.jpg

romanian majority, faggots. in 1855

>thinking yourself much better than everybody around you
>systematically forcefully assimilate every single minority
>estranged every single minority in their country.

romanians in transylvania lived under apartheid. hungarian rulers were like nazis

just hungarian immense butthurt
trianon was justified

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> Stealing a piece of land
> Killing romanians to become majority
> Gets given back to the original owners
> Cry about how the land stolen from you has a hungarian majority in a few areas

You can believe propaganda all you want but I remember the stories my granddad told me about what his parents and grandparents experienced and how Romanians were treated in occupied Transilvania

No buddy. We had no time dealing with minorities pc problems who were slaves in their entire history.
We have been busy defending Europe from shitskins for hundreds of years.

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>We have been busy defending Europe from shitskins for hundreds of years.
as far as i know we steamrolled you in Mohacs and killed off 3/4 population
nice protection you've got there

most of the hate is from low IQ people on both sides

cherry picking.

Comparing the center of your village with a side, peripheral muddy street of ours.

Don't be disturbed by the facts.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Romania

To actually be this fucking delusional is astonishing.
First of all the people of the romanian states: Transilvania, Wallachia and Moldova have fought and resisted the ottoman empire for as long as they could. To deny this is to deny historical fact.
Secondly to believe that hungary did not mistreat non hungarians in their occupied lands ( Romanians in transilvania) is just insanity.

Both were Google frist result.
Sad.

>with minorities pc problems who were slaves in their entire history

Everybody was a slave to you. My point has been proven.

Also, your most prominent anti-ottoman fighters were Vlach John Hunyiadi and his son Matthias Corvinus

Now the real question is which country has the more attractive women?

I'm visiting both in January and would really like to know

I've visited Covasna and Harghita, Hungarian and Romanian villages are the same, stop cherry-picking m8!

Yes, and we steamrolled you in
Eger
Szigetvár
Nándorfehérvár
etc.

We fought with the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years and there were defeats also.
The point is we fought against a huge empire, what did Romanians do?

Romania has more variety, if you travel around the country.

Hungary is more uniform, central-european cuties with a hint of Eastern European-ness and balkan

There's no hate only bantz.

I live next to HU border and often go there for relaxation.

>what did Romanians do?
Vlad the Impale
Stephen the Great
Michael the Elder,
Michael the Brave.
should I go on?

Because in Europe we hate everyone and thats why we have been killing each other since the we can remember

>January

Why January? The best time to visit here is late-spring early summer!

>Yes, and we steamrolled you in
>We
LOL

Does anyone actually care about why the gypsies feud with the horizontal spaghetti people?

Both Romanian states fought the Ottoman empire. And Hungarian army wasn’t monoethnic. There were Romanians there aswell.

> We have been busy defending Europe from shitskins for hundreds of years
In WW1 you were literally allied to the Ottoman Empire.
It's one thing to be conquered by shitskins and forced to fight for them and quite a different to literally be their ally in the conquering of Europa.

Fuck off nigger!

me personally:
Cyanide poisoning of the river Tisza by romanian shitskins and their government not admitting / taking any respnsibility

Denial of history of transylvania

Backstabbing Hungary during World War

Infesting our countries with their gypsies, it is true that Hungary had a small amount of gypsies during 18-19 hundreds, bit they were fairly well integrated and had 16 000 registered musicians until romanians came along and contaminated the integrated populus completely by the tens of thousands

What else did I miss?

kek

(We)
If I remember correctly we fought the roaches together. We had no choice.

Ever heard of magyarization. I'd rather be killed than have to go through the shit non Hungarians had to go through in lands occupied by hugary

Wrong, I'm afraid. Now I know you're just going to change topics to try to insult me more, but do consider retreating with some honor to lick your wounds. Even the Jews hate your people.

>Cyanide poisoning of the river Tisza by romanian shitskins and their government not admitting / taking any respnsibility

It was a Canadian company that ran and bought that place

checked and thanked

Please choose one of your options.

right, right
You should read more about your real history, little friend

>Gypsys were granted privileges, first under King Sigismund (1387-1437) and King Matthias (1458-1490),to the beggining of the 18th century
>Maria Theresa(1740-1780) enacted a decree prohibiting the use of the name 'Gypsy' and requiring 'new Hungarian' to be used
>placed restrictions on Gypsy marriages, ordered children to be taken away from Gypsy parents, so that they could be raised in 'bourgeois or peasant' hungarian families.
>Finally Joseph II prohibited use of the Gypsy language in 1783.
>The forced assimilation was essentially successful in the 19th and 20th century
>A new wave of Gypsy immigration occurred in the second half of the 19th century, from East and South.
mfa.gov.hu/NR/rdonlyres/05DF7A51-99A5-4BFE-B8A5-210344C02B1A/0/Roma_en.pdf


Mihály Horváth(was a Hungarian Roman Catholic bishop, historian, and politician. He was an exponent of Hungarian nationalism with an emphasis on its historical culture) :“Transylvania was populated by Romanians when the Hungarians first arrived in Pannonia. In Bihor was the dukedom of Menumorut, who had as his subjects Vlachs and Khazars, and in Banat Voievod Glad had an army composed entirely of Romanians. Erdely is led by Gelu at this time as well.”

>thinks each country is one person

WEW LAD

>as they could

Thing is most people today don't really hate each other over this shit. I have 2 hungarian friends and we never mistreated them because they're hungarian. This really is something only idiots on both sides perpetuate. Most people accept that both nations did some shit in the past and we should move along

Brave words coming from someone in niggerland!

Niggers, gypsies, it's all the same.

Romania coutry on gipsies.
Untermenshes.

>both nations did some shit in the past and we should move along

move along and both solve our gypsy problems

Daily reminder Hungary was an Ottoman eyalet.

>infesting our countries with their gypsies.
Do you even actually understand the history of gypsies in eastern europe? If anyone is to blame for bringing them here its the ottoman empire. Now stop acting like your neighbor is the root of all the bad things in your country. Scapegoating isn't healthy

Jews hate everyone but themselves. Just take a good look to what's happening in America. You're getting turned into shitskins and "white genocide" is viewed as something positive. Such hypocrisy, burger.

14% muslim according to official statistics
up to 30% according to unofficial statistics.
Borders those stans in Central Asia with more than 80 million muslims
Largest mosque in Europe is in Moscow.

Let us not pretend Russia is that much cleaner.

Tell me about that how fairly did the British Empire treat minorities.
You little concentration camp inventor.

Or some useful information for you.
"It says that of all the countries in Europe in which we would least like to live, the very worst place – cited by a massive 25% of all respondents, leaps and bounds ahead of anywhere else – is Romania."
theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/20/romania-hellhole-or-mysterious-romanticism-europe-uncovered

Go back shoplifting and leave me alone.

That's right nigger, you're the same!

>The forced assimilation was essentially successful in the 19th and 20th century
>A new wave of Gypsy immigration occurred in the second half of the 19th century, from East and South

I.E. romanian gypsies learned how well integrated hungarian gypsies were and started flooding the country for gibs

Do you think romania is west from Hungary? Also what do you think successful means ?

>chad posters insulting hungary
top kek

Someone remind me whats the difference between Chad of Africa and Romania?

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So you accept that hungary mistreated non-hungarian people in their lands?
Also if you don't have to apologize for these crimes why would you expect romania to apologize for theirs? No one is innocent in this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Belgrade_(1456)

Because >1million hungarians were forced to live in Romania by fr*nce.In fact we should be hating on fr*nce but we're too retarded for that

if they gave back the few hungarian territories along the border, and autonomy to szeklers, we could be friends

> pathetic school-level sophism "no you"

Try again gypsylover

that's cute.

I feel sorry for you if you are not able to make difference between an expanding empire and a defeated empire.
We fought against one of the best armies on the world that time. In WWI Turkey was a shit country like now.
You did nothing both times, of course.

Because they are poor and worthless. They are bitter about land "lost" even though it was worthless goathills they did nothing with.
Romanians are gypsies and have no real use for land.
Hungarians are we wuz kangs that never made it because their country was so utterly shit and the people african rape babies.

well no one cares at this point, it's like native americans bitching about the conquest of america, can't be undone, and if you want to undone it you have to spill blood for it

We did something right :)

ok

it's the classic defeated country asshurt
austrians hate us to a lesser degree for sudtirol for the same reason
>muh land
>muh people
shouldn't have lost the war then cucks

This.
Any hungarian who actually has a brain knows only autonomy achivable and not the dream of the revisionists.

The carpatians were the natural border, Hungarian for centuries - and not to forget 500k Germans used to settle in transsylvania for 800 years. Pretty much all of them left, mainly at end and after communistic times for well known reasons. Several Hungarians, too. Within new borders Romanians settled in that region, therefore ratio of people living in Transylvania changed. There won't be a perfect solution either way, of Hungarian or Romanian. Beautiful country and hope next generations will find good way to live with each other.

>British propaganda

I am not surprised. They have been increasing their negative propaganda against Romania since 2012 when they wished to expand in Romania, and Romania has been surprisingly resilient to their infiltration, unlike Poland.
They attempted it with horse-meat scandal, immigration crysis, forcing that gypsy thing out of proportion... etc.
Anglo-saxons are sour we refuse to be their useful idiots, and prefer to re-allign ourselves with Germany.

Listen to George Friedman's argument about USA geopolitical designs for the XXI century. They plan to separate Russia from Germany. How can they achieve this? By building a block between Poland Romania and Turkey.
youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc

America's plan begins to splinter as Turkey had a failed coup that led to the systematic cleansing of pro-western elements from its government structures, followed by a Turkish geopolitical realignment towards Russia and China.

Romania is voting socialists, who are pro-China and neutral-Russia.

Also, by and large, never believe British propaganda. It masquerades as balanced facts, when it is political propaganda. Britain has never cared and will never care about Europe.

>tries to talk shit
> gets btfo
> goes into damage control
> Igor please go back to drinking, shitposting is not for you

They are illegal racemixed immigrants from Asia that established a state within other states, stealing lands from Slovaks, Romanians, Serbians and Germans (known then as slavics, germanics and vlachs).

They are not native to Europe, they do not speak an european language, their genes are not european, they're mixed with mongol, turks, gypsies, slavic serfs and german colonists form the Austrian crown.

Think of mexicans making a state in California, Nevada and Arizona.
Or pakistanis creating a state in London.
Thats hungarians for Europe.

> red flags
> pshe pshe names

Something wrong

>The amount of times I saw Romanians come with this one event.

"soviet republic" hahahahahahaha

the only thing you ruskies were ever good at was dying at twice the rate.

>shouldn't have lost the war then cucks

Austria deserved it considering what they have been doing to Italy for several hundred years.

The second army didn't make a move because their leader wanted to be the king, was indeed a lucky day for roaches

All Romanian victimization is based on "what Hungarians did before us".

>be hungarian
>migrate to new land like the greedy shit you are
>act like you own the land so hard it actually becomes part of hungary
>shit happens, you give the land back willingly
>years pass
>autistic screeching because they "stole" "your" land

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Show me a map around 900 AD that includes the Kingdom of Romania or the Kingdom of Slovakia

I'm waiting

Carpathians were a natural border for many people. People settled that area before the nomads from the steppes came down

should have done it better to be honest, instead you let romainians outbreed you for 5-6 centuries, history is written by the victors

oh I agree, austria-hungary was a cancer for everyone who wasn't austrian or hungarian
them getting dismantled and partitioned among their neighbours is one of the few cases of divine justice in history

The only thing the Romanians are proud of their entire history is when the west let them walk in Budapest after a war we fought against Russia, Italy, British Empire and France.

Good for you.