Since the recent events in Charlottesville, nazi hate has made it to the mainstream. What happened in Charlottesville was not okay. Killing random people is not okay, and this particular guy was a nutjob. However, the way people reacted to this event was counter-productive. From what I've read, white nationalists are scared. This fear has turned into hate, and now this hate has made a victim. White nationalists are fighting against the abuses of the far-left, and they're afraid that the changes that are happening in the world will be for the worst. I understand these concerns. People reacted to this hate in the worst possible way: with more hate. I disagree with most of the ideas of white nationalists. I also disagree with the far-left. Now that white nationalists have the attention of the media, I believe they still have a chance to be on the right side of history. Most of them are young, and no one is born hateful. I'm not asking you to repent or to join the left. I believe every person is entitled to their opinions. What I'm trying to do is understand what you want, and whether or not your demands are compatible with the greater good. If someone who considers themselves a white nationalist sees this, please answer me. What are the biggest problems society is facing? How can we realistically solve them? I'd also like to know how you came to these conclusions. I know Sup Forums is usually a place for trolling, but I'd love to have a serious conversation with you guys and try to see whether or not we can put our differences aside to do what's best.
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate.. Leads to suffering.
Owen Miller
tldr
hail hitler
Christopher Ward
heil*
sorry adolf :^(
Luke Martinez
>Killing random people is not okay
Wyatt Thomas
I realize that you guys probably have demands, since you've decided to go out and march. I know Charlottesville's protest was about a statue, so a thing of the past- but what do you want for the future? That's why I'm trying to figure out. Is there something you'd like to build (inb4 "a wall") or accomplish?
Nathaniel Walker
Commies and Fascists feed off each other.
They two sides of the same Collectivist coin.
Ryan Adams
You haven't been paying attention, you have no idea what happened in Cville. Take your shitpost, and go do your homework.
Xavier Robinson
Can you enlighten me, then?
Brayden Howard
The culture war is a digital culture war. PC bullshit has gone far, a lot of people feel like they have to silence themselves since talking openly isn't worth the drama. A group of dudes can't even have a speech in a park without a violent lynch mob showing up and a state of emergency shutting them down.
Grayson Miller
I agree with you. When you talk about the speech in a park, do you mean the university that refused to let white nationalists rally there?
Brayden Watson
We want the ctrl-left to keep protesting by standing in the middle of the street so drivers continue to lose their shit and plow them over. This removes the worst elements of both sides from the world.
Jace Myers
should have killed more
and now fuck off with your larping as a communist, we all know your just another Sup Forumsack fishing you's
William Perez
back to africa, monkey
Jace Peterson
The park where the statue of Robert E. Lee is in. The guys who were going to have the speech, put the microphone in front of the statue, to have it as the backdrop for their speeches. They even got a permit from the city to have permission to be there. The permit itself was an issue that needed a federal judge to get involved too. The Cville issue is being over shadowed by the car incident, so nobody is going to car about the UniteTheRight event being fucked over by the city itself. To the normies, everyone who went to hear the speeches is a terrorist of a nazi.
Benjamin Campbell
This is the kind of stuff I was talking about. Censoring people who have different opinions only breeds more hate. Thanks for explaining this to me, btw. Is there a place other than Sup Forums where people from the political group that was censored could have a conversation with the people who censored them? I'm convinced that freedom of speech is important and it's really sad to see that kind of thing.
Nathaniel Russell
The other side isn't interested in dialogue. They blanket label everything they say as "hate speech" and want to take away their platform to even speak at all. This isn't about a conversation, it is about one side closing their ears and demanding the other group have their tongue removed. This is why the PC bullshit is becoming an issue. We get silenced and censored everywhere we go, the only place to just talk open and not worry is in private on voice hosting services like discord or skype.
Alexander Rodriguez
Casse toi pédale.
Brandon Fisher
>I believe they still have a chance to be on the right side of history. >whether or not your demands are compatible with the greater good >I understand these concerns No you dont. Its this kind of smug arrogance why people are sick of leftism and ready to discard completely
Lincoln Brooks
>Killing random people is not okay, agreed, prove somebody actually died please
Adam Russell
> the same leftist coin.
Hudson Powell
You're right, no one is born hateful, but they're born racist. Each human has a hard coded in-group preference that follows racial lines. We see this in everything from infant reactions to other skin tones to black boys having much higher academic achievement rates when taught by black men to the brain having similar reactions to beastality and inter racial couples.
Look up Robert Putnam's E Pluribus Unum study. In short, racial diversity results in the break down of civic institutions and interpersonal relationships where ever a city is heterogenous.
Also, white supremacists aren't white nationalists. They're LARPERs who like to pretend their nazis coming to save the white race. You've seen what good they've done.
Adam Kelly
I completely understand. The best would be for moderate people to defend freedom of speech for everyone. I see it happen a lot, so that's good. The situation in the US seems more difficult than in France, since the far-left has a lot of power, and now with what happened in Cville. That really sucks.
Josiah Diaz
>The other side isn't interested in dialogue. They blanket label everything they say as "hate speech" and want to take away their platform to even speak at all.
thats right because otherwise their narrative pushing their agenda falls apart
Lincoln Watson
>Killing random people is not okay >people
I don't see any people on the pics.
Gabriel Watson
>but they're born racist. no they are trained to be racist with violence
their parents beat them to make sure they're racist
Brody Bell
>still have a chance to be on the right side of history what, like those currently trying to rewrite it? tendential leftist, but, this bollox with the statues is way out of order (and its hardly 'alt-right' to blame here) AND Charlottesville was, in principle, the forced shutting down of a permitted demo. Whether you agree with it or not, 'I I I dont agree, SHUT IT DOWN!' - thats not the way towards reaching a consensus.
What 'the left' happily forgets, there is a fucking shitload of armed and volatile people at these events. And simply screaming till you get your way is neither having a serious conversation, nor limiting the potential for a bloodbath - such becoming more inevitable by the day. You want a serious conversation? - maybe start with admitting your share of the fault - and this statutes shit, its serious bullshit thats gonna end in tears IMO.
Adam Green
>being this retarded People are born racist. Deal with it faggot.
William Sanders
The nationalists that marched in Charlottsville are operating on so many more red pills than you that it's not worth trying to explain to you. I suggest that you lurk moar if you want to understand. Also, judging by your flag, it's none of you business.
Ryan Green
The issue is when White Pride is linked with being racist. Personal pride is a problem to herd-collectivist mindset. Whites are being told to be ashamed of their skin color, if they have any amount of personal pride in their history they must be evil and full of hate.
Evan Ward
I know there are laws in the US protecting freedom of speech. Sadly, it's easier to comply with the demands of potentially violent groups (on the left) than to fight for freedom of speech. The people who are in power have no reason to make it more difficult for themselves by defending an umpopular viewpoint. I understand this is why some people here on Sup Forums and other young conservatives are ready to use violence to defend freedom of speech. I'm not sure there's a good solution to this. I don't want fascism, and I don't want a bloodbath.
Henry Butler
So.. how did the first racist person come about?
Landon Martin
Sorry friend, this is a problem beyond dialogue. The nazi scum that has infected the soul of the Republican party can't be talked away, it will need to be rooted out and destroyed.
Aaron White
>Killing random people is not okay
Cooper Roberts
I'm just here for the memes
Austin Hughes
The conservative or right-wing group isn't ready to use violence, they are just prepared to defend against violence being used as a means to silence them. A bloodbath cannot be avoided at this time since the brainwashed SJW type is convinced words are violence, and anyone who puts forth a counter argument is committing hate-speech.
Joshua Powell
>only western people that cares about dead commie disgusting
Justin Young
We don't want our homelands to be flooded by niggers and muslims and our history, culture and legacy erased. What don't you understand about that? No one wants that, not even the dumbest, most worthless nigger in Africa, and we actually have something worth defending.
Aaron Rivera
But you erased their history culture and legacy............
Nicholas Long
We're probably going to get both. Why? Because surprise the surprise the faction that wants to scrub history has never read history.
KKK and Neo-Nazi rallies have been a thing for decades. I went to go watch one 5 years ago in my city to see what would happen. Of course there were commie counter protesters there as there usually are.
What's changed is Antifa and friends have been attacking right wing gatherings that have nothing to do with Nazis for months now because they see any conservative expression as fascism.
The left has been escalating, and historically not only does this tend to grow right wing movements when open conflict begins leftists lose. Hard.
>Captcha: find the vehicles
Andrew Wood
Only some of the people who showed up to Charolettesville to march were White Nationalists. Every one of the people who showed up to oppose them is a collectivist of some kind. The police, instead of keeping the groups apart, corraled them together before making one of them leave. Look into the history of terrorism from those who showed up to 'fight teh nazi.'
Kevin Gomez
I feel really stupid because I'm overwhelmed by this whole thing. Antifa sucks. And yes, I've seen videos, they're definitely violent. Have they been labeled a terrorist organization yet? Do you think it would help, or just make them look like martyrs?
Zachary Jones
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Gabriel Green
(You) are not and should not feel dumb. These people are brainwashed so take what they say with a grain of salt.
John Peterson
I'm not sure if it would help, but they haven't yet.
Matthew Kelly
Actually the mainstream has always hated nazis. Killing millions of people in a world war does not make you popular.
Kevin Morgan
>Killing random people is not okay, and this particular guy was a nutjob.
Dude, he was driving his car there and antifa started throwing stuff at his car and smashing it with bats so he sped up as anyone would do and ended up crashing at the rally. He isn't a nutjub, just had bad luck with ending up on the street populated by nutjobs
Mason Edwards
An end to mass immigration and ethnostates for Europeans since other nations are allowed to have it as well.
Cameron Robinson
Counter point: Communists are very popular now
Jackson Taylor
Black dude here, stop calling me a Uncle Tom faggots. So fucking sick of you leftist treating blacks like your fucking pets. I stand shoulder to shoulder with /POL many blacks do feel as I do. Many stand up and go to these rallies. As blacks we have to make our presence known on the Right. Stand up and be vocal. Put the leftist trash in its place. We are not pawns in your Marxist revolution. Any black that aligns themselves are house niggers as Malcolm X put it. They are only fighting to keep their gimmedats. The true definition of the house nigger.
Jace Evans
Psyop
Adam Cruz
What's your real name freindo? I think I know you IRL
Kayden Walker
(only first name of course don't be stupid)
Aaron Walker
The video I saw wasn't really clear. Do you think you could give me a link of a video where I could see better?
Grayson Clark
What happened when a BLM supporter killed 5 cops? Obama blamed "the sytem". The left WILL label anything they don't like nazi, it's been going on for months if not years. & please note the right wing NEVER shows up at the left/sjw rallies. The enemy chooses you youtube.com/watch?v=8oHmiHbyMEY
Blake Cooper
>Right-pets >Left-pawns What did bait mean by this?
Lincoln Morgan
Not gonna say my name on Sup Forums, sorry. Not even my first name. I like being anonymous on the internet.
Cooper Reyes
Communists had a very succesful march through the institutions in Europe. In the USA the WASPy ruling class' progressivism morphed into a sort of communism. And you know, Jews.
Asher Lee
American Lefties > BE TOLERANT OR FUCKING DIE
Landon Kelly
By the way, guys. It wouldn't be fair to only talk to you and not Antifa as well. Do you know a forum I could use to talk to them?
Thomas Cruz
Unless it's a rare name you won't be doxxed. That's up to you but it would be one hell of a coincidence if you are who I think you are
Ayden Morgan
They haven't. There has been no mention of them save for Fox, the rest of the traditional media is oblivious to them. That's why people are so upset about Trump's "both sides are at fault" because the general perception is that these were peaceful counter protestors that got beat up by always violent nazis. Plus they're being categorized as 'anti-hate' groups.
The mainstream awareness would have 2 effects.
1. Antifa ranks would swell because who dosent want to join the Resistance (bare in mind the rally folks were out numbered 2 to 1).
2. The second is run of the mill conservatives will realize that there are people on the left beating up innocents and torching cities and getting away with it and arguably being encouraged by the rest of the left. This will engage conservative populations and hardened the divide.
Asher Jenkins
Firstly, no we didn't. Everyone but USA, Canada, Germany, France, UK and Sweden, fucking billions of them are living in ethnostates in control of their own destinies.
Secondly, if that is the explanation, then why aren't muslims facing the same fate? All those lands outside Arabia used to be white and Christian. Why not Japan or China? Why Sweden? They never had an empire?
Thirdly, not a single one of us had anything to do with any of that.
Fourthly, does that make it a good thing that we should bend over for, or fight till the death against like the old colonies did?
By the way, it was also whites who abolished slavery and imperialism from the earth and institued civil society and international cooperation and foreign aid. Some of our ancestors may have committed crimes, but the vast majority were good, charitable, creative and productive. So if we must pay for our ancestors' crimes, why aren't we rewarded for their goid works which far outweigh them? Why aren't all the other peoples' whose ancestors committed crimes (i.e. all other people, especially muslims) similarly punished?
Your explanation doesn't add up.
Connor Myers
>Killing >millions >of people
Easton Thompson
I'm not comfortable with it, but I can tell you I go to college in Paris. I also have bangs, if that can help.
Adam Rivera
Don't only reach out to Antifa supporters, BLM was there too. BLM was the group with baseball bats that attacked the car.
Austin Moore
The red tide is rising.
The edgy eugenicist "race-war-now" fascists suddenly cowering and playing the victim card as soon as true leftists seriously try to oppose them is a bit funny and also a bit telling about the integrity of the average right-winger.
Camden White
>I go to college in Paris Ah nevermind then
Eli Smith
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Liam King
(You) don't act or behave like the charitable ones. (You) act and behave like the brainwashed useful idiots.
Charles Gutierrez
Don`t reach out. They must be exterminated and bred out of existence like the parasites they are.
Carson Walker
Thanks for the info. So, do you know where I can find BLM/Antifa members on the internet? Ideally a place where I don't need to make a profile and all.
Ryder Brown
rephrase that in english
Matthew Turner
BLM has murdered 7 innocent cops, so far. Do you condemn that as well?
Which side do you support? Antifa communists & white-hating BLM racists? Or National Socialists & black-hating KKK?
Or neither, like our President?
Waiting for your choice.
Ayden Watson
Good goy.
Wyatt Foster
Gtaforums discussion section
I applaud your stride, Frenchie, but most people on this board are either retarded or underage (sometimes both).
They don't want to discuss things and come to a solution. They just want a hivemind echo chamber where time stands still.
Henry Murphy
Just like a typical leftist. Trying to discredit my words. Your fear us faggot. You fear the moment blacks awake to the bowl of lies you have been feeding us since LBJ. Blacks will no longer dine at your table of discontent. Remember my words as a Black man shoves your antifa flag up your ass.
Angel Miller
I absolutely condemn that. It was disturbing to me that the media acted like the left in the US wasn't violent at all. I support neither.
Easton Wilson
Who do you think I am? I'm just a normal guy like you. Highly travelled and educated, getting on with people from all walks of life, quite liberal even.
Benjamin Gonzalez
here are some demands. Lower immigration and change to point based system. Remove affirmative action and remove discriminative diversity hiring bias policies.
Socially: Stop attacking white males and stop trying to divide white females from white males
Luke Rogers
If you attempt to ask questions to them, be prepared to be called a bigot, racist, and they will try to dox you and get you fired. So 100% make a fake profile.
Colton Evans
You`re delusional if you think for a second that you can get anywhere by having a civilized discussion with Antifa. Are you serious or a shill?
Alexander Campbell
Just like President Trump. I'm with both of you.
Robert Rivera
You forgot Uncle Tom to the Red pilled brothers out there.
Jack Long
Agree with all of this.
Julian Jones
Seems reasonable to me. White women should be able to date whoever they want, though. But I get what you mean. In ads, movies, etc. Most biracial couples have a white woman and a black man. From what I've seen, it's not that common in real life.
Grayson Flores
At least you're not blind to the media propaganda. Ask yourself, why are they pushing this agenda?
Asher Russell
Do you find being called a minority insulting? I often wonder how people feel when these lefty idiots stand up and speak on behalf of others, as if they are too incompetant to do it on their own.
Brody Perry
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Ryan Flores
That's not what I'm saying, faggot.
You can't have a normal discussion with both parties. With Antifa or you nazi fags. You're all already dug in your views for anyone on the internet or outside to convince you otherwise through discourse.
No, what you need is practical experience; empirical evidence.
And even then, still might be the same. As soon as you join a braindead group you're fucked. Which both nazis and antifa are; fucking brain dead
Isaiah Clark
It's a clumsy way to seem inclusive. They put token minorities in everything to appeal to the people who want diversity more than anything, and think story/personality are secondary. I'm sure minorities think it's ridiculous too.
Ryan James
>That Guy is a Nutjob He was obviously trained. All Footage visible shows a guy completely different from the guy they took to blame for the crime. The Footage shows how calm and collected he was doing it. That asshole was a mercenary to start a media war, and he succeeded and all who have half a brain know its not on the right-wing anymore. I mean, listen here OP. why would OUT MERE COINCIDENCE helicopters fall out of the sky that had a trained team on it and a lake nearby to break the fall? OP, this is all doctored.
Blake Gomez
The problem is minorities feel entitled and refuse to act civilized. 13% of the population commits 50% of the violent crime. We are sick of paying them to hate us.
Charles Phillips
fucking gold
Henry James
They weren't random people. They were commies that would have killed anyone wearing a MAGA hat.
Jaxson Cooper
Do you post the there were no planes thing in all 9/11 threads?
William Morgan
>You can't have a discussion unless there is a chance to turn the other side from their principles to yours.
Walk this back because this is the message I'm getting from your post which if it was your intent then you're a bigger part of the problem then Sup Forums is.