What's the difference between Fascism and National Socialism? Which is better, in your opinion?

What's the difference between Fascism and National Socialism? Which is better, in your opinion?

Fascism is retarded italian "muh Glorious Rome" trash.

National Socialism is Socialism packaged with ethno-nationalism to give it more popular appeal, and Fascism is Syndicalism packaged with civic nationalism for the same reason.

0. The only difference is between the german and italian peoples and their cultures.
>inb4 some shitskin brings up race
Remember that Italy was literally 100% European and they never had many jews to delve deep into the JQ. Nevertheless there are some differences between German and Italian "racism".

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>National Socialism is Socialism
This phrase alone makes you stand out as a massive idiot.

I'm always confused by this statement, and genuinely curious. From an outside point of view I see national socialism as having plenty of left wing economic ideas but socially very right wing, would this be incorrect? Before I get "you fucking idiot commie" Id describe myself as very right wing socially, and I'm genuinely interested to see how people respond to national socialisms policy question, because I for one have no idea.

It would require a hole book to explain that

It is the same thing, Tell me how it's not.

Fascism will save your cucked land my burger friend.

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Fascism is a political system
National Socialism is Germanic Autism: Overdrive Edition

Fascism is a worldview. NatSoc is a system of government stemming from Fascism.

It would be fair to call NatSoc German Fascism. Heavily based on restoring cultural morality, establishing a social safety net for the fractured populace, connecting nature and beauty.
For Mussolini Italian Fascism was heavily reliant economics. The corporate sector having a directive to benefit the public was key. As well machismo and the idea that every Italian man was a proud warrior were central to the aesthetic ideal shaping the ideology.
For Mosley British Fascism there was a notion that all Brits should regard themselves as European, it was very much trying to unify the people and rebuild a sense of identity into something greater.

Fascist governments greatly different depending on who envisions them, but where they are all similar is in venerating their own unique culture, and in trying to elevate their own people. Rather than absorbing rhetoric about equality into their dogma they instead hold the view of creating harmony between unequal parties.

Yes, nazi germany wanted to implement a lot of the things that Europeans later did in terms of wealthfare states, free healthcare, etc. as well as subsidizing and controling sectors that would be beneficial to the state. But with a more non-cucked edge.

Imagine Denmark if it wasn't filled with hippies, marxists and Jews who wanted to implement feminism, jante law and multiculturalism everywhere.

They're both just awful. Constitutional republic is the only right way to go.

>We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

t. Adolph Hitler

>stemming from Fascism
Wrong, they might seem similar, but National Socialism has its basis in Scandi ideologues, whereas Fascism stemmed from Italy and other southern European movements

>The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all

t. Adolph Hitler

When people say "Socialism" they're usually referring to Marxian Socialism. NatSoc doesn't really encompass this.
The National Socialist Workers Party definitely had a social safety net, but this is a far cry from being a full on Marxian Socialist. The problem is that most normal functioning people don't read Marx so not many people actually know what his doctrine was.

Marxian Socialism has to eliminate class, it has to eliminate any sort of income inequality, it has to eliminate the idea of private industry. NatSoc does none of these things.

Wrong italians have been in contact with jews since ancient times , we know more about jews than nordcucks, actually romans are the only ones who suscessfully BTFO jews into oblivion at least once or more times.

How about good old fashioned free market capitalism? It's worked pretty well for this country so far. You wanna make money to buy shit? Go to work or open a business. Stop expecting the government to provide for you. Queers.

NatSoc was heavily influenced by a lot of things. It was a brand new government trying to do anything they thought would be beneficial for their own people. The reason why people fail to pin it down is because it has policies from both left and right domains on the political spectrum. They weren't adhering to that paradigm of aligning to one side or the other.
The ideological roots for Fascism are older than Mussolini, and that worldview absolutely is behind NatSoc.

>Marxian Socialism has to eliminate class, it has to eliminate any sort of income inequality, it has to eliminate the idea of private industry. NatSoc does none of these things.

Sure it does, it just does it by arguing for broad social solidarity on the basis of ethnicity rather than claiming you've established a classless society by seizing all private property. NatSoc argues there is no class, only the "volk", and if a business owner is part of the volk then his industry belongs to the volk through him.

Main problem is vague meaning of 'left'/'right', especially beyond economics. 'Socially very right wing' is pretty much meaningless statement - while you can say more-or-less objectively that nazis where socially conservative, calling them 'socially right wing' says more about UK&US, who equate right wing with conservatism, rather than about nazis.

I know that Fascism was prior to Mussolini, and not only that, I'll even claim that Mussolini himself wasn't true to Fascism, but the roots of Fascism differ from the roots of National Socialism, at least the actual National Socialism that Hitler somewhat usurped

It's the same fucking ideology. The way it's handled is different from country to country because the folk are different country to country.

Jews were vastly over represented in the advent of Italian fascism. Mussolini was against anti-semitism and didnt give a shit about race or other Europeans, he just hated commies and loved his own people. Read up on the first time Benny and Hitler met, Adolph sperged out and Benny was pissed for days. Francos fascism was the best fascism.

How about you stop letting Jews own and print all your money?
How about you stop letting an exploitative banking system charge interest on your people and arbitrarily create market bubbles by artificially influencing inflation?
How about you realize that these things will always happen unless you have mechanisms in place to prevent it with physical force?

You can spout all the rhetoric you want, that business owner still owns that business and makes a profit from it. There are still rich and poor, the poor are just provided for with a system no different from welfare today.

>Francos fascism was the best fascism
>American education

fascism would work better in America, national nationalism can only work in a homogeneous society.

>national socialism*

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>Franco
>A fascist

>There are still rich and poor, the poor are just provided for with a system no different from welfare today.

And there are rich and poor in socialist countries today. It's just that the rich tend to get ahead via political connections rather than business acumen. Having a classless society isn't about have perfect equality, it's about having a society in which the general population does not conceptualize itself as class distinct from the ruling elite.

>national nationalism
tell me more

>Franco a fascist

Burger education kicking in.

Don't be too hard on him. Falangism is pretty close to Fascism.

>"But Mussolini is not anti-Semitic. You rejoice in vain," whispered the Jewish press into our ears. It is not a matter of what we rejoice in say I, it is a question of why you Jews are sad at his victory, if he is not anti-Semitic. What is the rationale of the worldwide attack on him by the Jewish press?
Italy has as many Jews as Romania has Ciangai [a quite minor ethnic group] in the Siret valley. An Italian anti-Semitic movement would be as if Romanians started a movement against the Ciangai. But had Mussolini lived in Romania he could not but be anti-Semitic, for Fascism means first of all defending your nation against the dangers that threaten it. it means the destruction of these dangers and the opening of a free way to life and glory for your nation

Franco wasn't a Falangist you dumb fucking burger
Falangism IS Fascism

It was heavily influenced by reactionary and gala goat parties in a coalition.

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short said, we are enemies of jews and their system.

To be honest national socialism is just one of the many types of fascism, fascism can vary between other countries such as Chilean fascism capitalism which revolves around an open market or Mosley's British fascism which had a single market and a slightly more democratic view on things.National Socialism is hard to explain as people generally mix up the socialism part with (((Marx))) socialism as Hitler's socialism was completely different as what it meant was that people got out of the system what they earned through hard work.

a pretty important part of fascism is that, as a nationalist ideology, the details are tailored to the country adopting it. Hitler waffled between embracing the church, trying to force weird meme doctrines on it, and just disdaining it completely, while the Falange and Iron Guard were always devoutly religious

this is nice, and eye opening for the normies