Antifa / Anticom Branding Wars

Quick question, Sup Forums: The left calls themselves "antifa" (anti-fascists) because it's always easier to define a movement by what it opposes rather than what it stands for. This results in fewer questions and it's more difficult to smear something with no explicit ideology to pin down. You can also appeal to more people by defining a group solely by what it opposes.

My question is: In addition to re-branding antifa and their ilk as the "alt-left," why not also re-brand the right into "anticom" (short for anti-communist).

In doing so, we take the brand identity that the left has spent decades (or longer) building up, and invert it to use it against them. Any time a left-wing mobs chimps out and destroys property, anticom shows up in a manner similar to antifa (except without the degenerate aesthetic of antifa members). It's more difficult to condemn an anti-communist group and resonates with average citizens more readily. It also gives politicians who are /our guys/ cover to support a group that is merely against communism.

It wouldn't be difficult for this effort to trickle from Sup Forums into the normosphere and begin to take hold given a modicum of effort.

Enlighten me, Sup Forums.

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So did you just spend the last twenty minutes throwing that retarded collage together just so you wouldn't have to form, you know, an argument?

The proposed name itself is an attempt to change the Narrative. If ever put under media spotlight, the reporter would be forced to apply the label of
"Anti-Communist Extremists".

That alone will get low information viewers to question the presented black and white representation of they're reality.

Right, which I think is a good thing. Because then their reporting would appear even more lopsided if they didn't also report antifa as "anti fascist extremists."

like the idea but you're going to be slid out too fast.

With regard to Iceland...

Conservatives sound SO FUCKING INSANE when they feign outrage at people for aborting retarded babies.

Forcing people to have rape babies and retard babies is 100% bonkers. Stop it.

bump

If you want to win anything, you need to re-brand the right as pic-related.

Stop larping, faggot.

'so youre nazis'

I know I'm getting slid really hard here. Even during major happenings this doesn't usually happen this bad.

Was hoping for some discussion about this. I'm in business and I understand branding strategies well, so this would really irritate the left if it were ever done. It's basically hijacking a brand inverse. It takes all the effort out of building the brand identity.

True, optics is everything. Antifa markets itself as being the instigator and their tactics reflect that. (Clubs, Pepper spray, etc...). Their motto is "Fight Fascism!".

The Anti-com should focus is marketing on being the defender, while presenting Antifa as an invader. The Motto should be "Defend Against Communism!" and the choice of tactics should project that (No weapons, activists armed only with shields). The Anti-com should be seen as a human wall, which stands firm against the disorder of collectivism.

Same argument applies to anti-fascists, in reverse.

"So you're communists."

Even normies can comprehend the double-standard involved in such attacks.

no, but you are a dirty jew and we should deal with you accordingly

You're making steps in the right direction. But this will be something you will have to hatch yourself. The MSM will not help you. I lack the abilities or desire to be any sort of leader, or fire starter, or whatever. I would say if you want to see this idea come to life, the best way to do it would be to start showing up to rallies, start canvasing cities, light it up best you can on any social media. I would say your best shot to get something like this going, would be to get President Trump's attention. He has the means to make something like this really take off. Have a bump, and keep up the fight. You will run into roadblocks every step of the way.

This. kek. The reason public support is surging for the alt-right is that they don't hide their faces when they go to represent what they believe in, so no matter how kike media spins it, to the average joe watching the news its "Americans vs. black-mask commies" when it becomes "Nazis vs ANYTHING" we've lost. Can't give up the average-joe branding until it's time to start wearing armbands.

you should keep pushing this OP it is a good idea.

Yes but 'communist' hasn't had a never ending smear campaign ran on it since the 1940's, you could literally openly say you're a communist and not suffer any consequences in your professional life, try saying you're a nazi and see what happens.

This. We all keep talking about needing a rebranding - and I think this is a genius way to go about it. We all genuinely hate Communism so why not use this as our rallying cry?

Anitfa wants communism they should only be referred to has communist.

The first I heard of the Alt right is from Hilarys mouth at a rally.

Unfortunately I'm a small business owner and a father/husband. I can't really run around canvassing people and so-forth

I'm hoping enough intelligent/motivated people on Sup Forums see it and debate it, maybe some other threads discuss it after this one, and it takes on a life of its own. As we all know, narratives can hatch very quickly with social media in play.

Anticommunist action needs to be a loose association and not just one group.

t. anticom admin

For our movement to succeed we're going to need to start pooling resources together behind credible figures. Not Lil Dicky Spencer.

Not really true, user. Antifa is constantly pushing the "war heroes crushed you and would again, nazi's" type memes. Don't forget that there was also a decades long cold war against communism, and it also resulted in a lot of death. We can use similar anti-commy memes to generate the same optics.

I have to go atm but I hope some discussion comes about. I really think this would be leaps and bounds better than the current "alt-right" branding strategy that appears to be floundering.

We cannot fight antifa right now. You saw what one of their dead did. They "fight nazis" so anyone who tries to stop them gets labled a nazi, and those who defend those who are branded are also nazis. This nearly destroyed the president when he tried to tell the truth.

We're at the tipping point. One more antifa martyr and white nationalists become a terrorist organization nationwide. Antifa becomes media heroes, and will attack any gathering of conservatives without repercussion. We must rebrand, and this will require great sacrifice.

We have to play the victim game. As stupid as it is, we must continue to hold rallies over clear examples of oppression of whites...and If anyone attacks us, we must do NOTHING. Hold position, and stand as still as you can. Drop your signs, and take your beating. Wear armor, carry water for acid attacks, but do no bodily harm. The media will ignore it at first...but eventually the photographic evidence will mount. Then we will have the proof we desperately need to show the world we are not evil. Its the only way to turn this around.

The game has changed. They have a martyr. We need scores of martyrs before we can ever shake off this violent nazi oppressor label, because otherwise nobody will see past the media blindfold unless our broken bodies are shown to all.

we need to fight fire with fire, use jews as a shield like they do

Alright OP, I like your idea and I'm not trying to BTFO you, but there's a certain group of (((people))) who have a vested interest in keeping 'Nazi's' smeared into oblivion, these same (((people))) happen to be rabid communists, they own all forms of media and simultaneously are smearing national socialism while promoting communism. Communism has no group of powerful people with a vested interest in keeping it down, quite the opposite. See the issue now?

Why not offer to clean up after the dust settles as well?Win the public over by being good samartians while also fighting communism I guess?

That's actually brilliant.

KYS NAZI

*blocks your path*

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I like the idea OP, but I dont think it will stick.

The idea of fascism as nazism as the ultimate evil is well too ingrained. Communism is not as hated as fascism - in peoples minds, comunism is stupid economic policy, while fascism is purely evil. Combating evil with violence can be justified, not stupidity.

If this is ever going to work it needs to expand fast before it is crushed by media outlets. I think setting up social media and then getting attention. I say we use the media against itself and get them to give attention to us in a way that would look ridiculous if they try to slander. Perhaps on Karl Marxs birth day we could put up anti- communist pro American propiganda posters over all of the prominant lefty university's or towns and have it signed as a message by anticom. If they try to attack it we call them out as communists.

I own the domains "AntiCommunistAction.com" and "AntiComm.com" and am willing to pay for hosting. if anyone wants to get involved or has any ideas I put a temporary email in above field. Honestly part of me thinks it should stay decentralized, I could use the website to help people find local geographic branches for rallies.

centralization is communist so I agree.

There's about half of a good idea here. But remember that you have no media power to push your message. Just use existing labels, like say Patriot.

You cant build a culture off of hating another culture or seeking to destroy another culture. This is one of the fundamental flaws of antifa and a good example of why they're such useful idiots for the establishment. Its why the National Socialists got rebranded as "kill all the jews"

Terrible idea op

I think we should make the right stand for non-violence so people will realize how awful antifa is

Nazi's are socialists. They should go and argue with communists, their equals. Superior ancaps and libertarians are opposed to big gubberment and both Nazis and commies want big gubberment.

Sad.

lol fuck off faggot
This. Aesthetic Anticom is a good idea.

Dear OP,
it's too late. You are a nazi through-and-through. You can call yourselves whatever you want, we will call you nazis.

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We should just start calling you nazis then considering you practically are nazis ya fuckin thought police.

Good luck with that.

I mean all you faggots ever do is try to get a rise out of people.I mean how old are you 8?

Idk dude I'm too emotionally invested to ever say that aborting babies is okeedokee even if they are retarded. It's something I don't think I can ever support.

I don't think it's bonkers, just hard-to-come-to-terms with for some people like me.

>In addition to re-branding antifa and their ilk as the "alt-left," why not also re-brand the right into "anticom"
Because this group of people are, in fact, facists...which is a cousin in ideology to communism...
Both of which were and are celebrated by Dems and Progs since the 1880's...
Dem's were so enfranchised by the Nazi party in the 1930's, that many meet and greets were had...dinner's eaten, grand toast's made, and medals and lauding of each others ideology was feted all around...Margeret Sanger was a big Nazi fangirl, and PP is based on Nazi plans to eradicate the mentally ill, retards, and invalids...
Democrats and Progressives are in fact the fascists...just so you know...

The Alt-Left is what an high IQ city girl with a good income and ambitions stands for. Not like the anarcho-libertarian suburban Bernie supporter or the misogynistic rural racist Trump supporter with low IQ in the Alt-Right

*yawn* out of 10

Wrong. The correct answer is to brand ourselves antievil. That way when someone talks about us we can use the cheap rhetorical trick that antifa uses to fool normies/brainlets.

>Normie: A: Man antifa sure cause a lot of damage when they riot
>Antifa: WHOA MAN WE'RE ANTI FASCISTS, IF YOU'RE AGAINST US YOU'RE FOR FASCISM

Now replace antifa with antievil, kek.

git riled up by an 8 year old ass-sperger

I'm good with this.
I would've called them the ctrl-left but alt-left has got some momentum now so I'll go with that.
Anti-com, the eagle is too much if we're trying to look friendly.

>defining yourself by what you oppose rather than what you truly believe in

It didn't work for the white army in Russia and it won't work for us.

assuming low IQ misogynist rural Bernie supporter who can't stand the thought of an ambitious city women be the leader of the Alt-Left

I have time for a post.

I know what you're getting at, but remember: antifa makes a real effort to brand themselves. It doesn't just happen. They have branded shirts, hats, signs, social media, etc. Yes much of it is paid for by Soros Inc., but nonetheless the branding is a result of an effort.

The media actually prefers to call them "the left" because calling them "antifa" is still somewhat triggering to normies. >"Anti-who? Anti-fascists? Well if those kids protesting the tearing down of iconic statues are fascists I guess I am too."
>t. grandpa normie
They don't want that, so they are hush-hush about using antifa on MSM networks - for now. They won't be if they can get the movement to gain steam.

Anticom is one way to short-circuit their effort. Yes, the (((people))) you are referring to will resist it, but people who support us will have cover to name us "anticom, aka anti-communists." That includes Trump.

Big difference is that communism is one of the largest forms of government in the world per capita. There are no fascist boogeymen. This gives us a huge advantage (not to mention truth/real history, which is a bonus).

It's not building a culture. It's a brand. The culture is not a result of the brand, the culture comes out of the people who inhabit the group. Don't confuse culture and branding.

The eagle was just the first image that I could grab in an img search. I agree a better emblem can/should be created.

>can't even be serious for one second
So I am talking to man children.I guess you and those evil nazis have a lot in common eh?

The actual anticom group was shown as taking part of the Charlottesville rally and will likely be investigated and sued

This is the only true answer. The right has, in general, a good hold on the "patriotic American" brand. Normies can get behind that. It's safe, effective, and easy to digest.

Normies can't, however, get behind people larping as a 1930's German nationalist party. It's fucking stupid and anyone with any self-awareness could tell you that.

It's such an obvious point that it really lends credence to the theory that the hardcore Nazis are all controlled opp, because no one in their right mind would seriously act like they're going to win over normies by waving around swastikas.

LARPing in public is one thing but there's nothing wrong with admiring the 3rd Reich. I just don't get how anyone could lack self-awareness to the point they'd bring that shit into public.

That's what they do. That's the goal. If Anticom would stand up to leftists like that kid with the confederate flag did at the monument, that would speak volumes.

Only attack when attacked first.
Don't start fights, finish them.
Defensive weapons only.
"They're ready for a fight!!" The MSM says, while attempting to ignore Antifa with bats and clubs

This is actually a pretty good idea OP, but difficult to accomplish.

Of course not, but it's not worth trying to argue that in the current political climate. It's all about shifting the Overton window, user. Never forget the importance of moving the Overton window back to the right.

Actions speak louder than words, and that image shows how you act.
Your little group is filled to the brim with shitskins, fags, and bronies. You're literally all the direct results of Communist Critical Theory destroying a society.

Flag-waiving has its uses and has been the tool of choice for patriotic Americans up to now. Where has it gotten us? To this point. The last major resistance effort to use it was the "tea party" movement. They failed in every effort to reform anything significant and by all appearances are mostly co-opted by special interests.

With that said, I'm all about any anticom movement use the flag patriotically. This serves the dual purpose of both associating the group with flag-waving America, and associating being anti-communist with flag-waiving America (as well as positioning the adversary against flag-waiving America and for communism).

You can have a group branded as anti-communist that also uses iconic symbolism endeared to normies. They aren't exclusive. This should be obvious enough not to be said but I guess I have to anyway.

>Normies can't, however, get behind people larping as a 1930's German nationalist party. It's fucking stupid and anyone with any self-awareness could tell you that.
We agree on this.

>communism is one of the largest forms of government in the world per capita
And thats completely false...absolute bullshit...utter hogwash...
It was large, in the past...but never, ever was it in a position where it was the largest form of government in the world at one point in history...
I like how you try to rewrite history...as you've just demonstrated, it was all made up in your befuddled little mind you vegan cuck...
The other thing is...Fascism still granted the citizenry property rights...Communism doesn't...so Communism is in fact the Babayega of the Socialist circle...

"Stop larping" to a group that larps all over the place day and night. Remember, people are Alt-Right because they're lifetime loser and scumbags that nobody has ever liked.

That's why they're in a cuck orgy with other scumbag losers sucking each others cocks and fucking each other. (when they're no sucking Trump or Hitler's cock)

Trump presidency is dead in the water because of you fucking virgins. Please, keep doing what you're doing.

>With that said, I'm all about any anticom movement use the flag patriotically. This serves the dual purpose of both associating the group with flag-waving America, and associating being anti-communist with flag-waiving America (as well as positioning the adversary against flag-waiving America and for communism).
>You can have a group branded as anti-communist that also uses iconic symbolism endeared to normies. They aren't exclusive. This should be obvious enough not to be said but I guess I have to anyway.
I agree completely. Perhaps I didn't phrase my first post correctly.

The tea party was useless due to it being astroturfed by special interests. It also had the stigma of being this angry old persons' movement. The alt-right is fueled almost entirely by the youth. That's key. Getting young people into a certain ideology is much easier and much better for the movement than just getting a bunch of old people to wave some flags around on the WH lawn.

Go home, Alt-Left.

Agreed but remember not to give them any (You)s

Oh yes, because you totally aren't the same.

How is being Anti-Fascist = being a Communist? That's only reality in this fucking small dicked hive mind and the rest of the Alt Right retard land.

The USA has always been "Anti-Fascist" and it's not Communist it's Capitalist.

Oh yeah, Capitalists are also Anti-Fascist you nitwit. Also if you think the giant cunts who make up your fucking ridiculous crowd of losers are going to give up their Nazi flags and Confederate flags you don't know what these people are Alt-Right for. That's it for them.

>Remember, people are Alt-Right because they're lifetime loser and scumbags
Remember, people are Alt-Left because they're losers and scumbags. The entire alt-left is made up of druggies, nu-males, and trannies with high suicide rates.

Sorry Trumpcuck, you're going to have to continue eating my shit. I know you like it, you've eaten shit your whole life it's why you're suck a ridiculous fucking loser.

>137816202
>The first German movement to call itself Antifaschistische Aktion was proclaimed by the German Communist Party (KPD) in their newspaper Rote Fahne in 1932 and held its first rally in Berlin on 10 July 1932, then capital of the Weimar Republic

learn2history you fucking shill

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

Communist countries of today: China, North Korea, Laos, Vietnam, and Cuba.

Total % of world population: 20-25%

That makes it one of the largest.

>a leaf

Why did I respond?

*such not suck

Sorry I was thinking about your mom for a moment.

Because you are communist.

Good work, I like it

Excellent point and idea. Most people have no idea what Antifa stand for and if they did, they would see them in the same light as neo-Nazis.

The same way being against communism = being a fascist. That's the whole point.

Are you really this dumb? I can't even tell anymore...

Antifa has historical roots to communist organizations, they constantly berate capitalism, and wave ancom flags.

literally what

Hi altleft

I have to go again. I hope the thread and idea live on. Thanks to anons who responded so far.

I like the name, but the logo reminds of the Nazi eagle.

Try to make it look more American. Red, white, and blue. Portray us as the patriotic Americans who want to defend our country from communists, and let the alt-left have their terrorist colors and symbols.

No problem user.hopefully we can figure out a solution to both of these cretins.

This

Antico is a better name than Anticom

how do you even have time to make something this pointless and stupid? Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>If they try to attack it we call them out as communists.
Baiting them into making a stupid move. I like it. Especially since you fucking KNOW they'll tear down anything remotely pro-American or anti-communist.

I guess our nations symbol?