I've been making fun of the Second United States Civil War meme for years now. For years, literally just a masturbatory fascination for innawoods gun nuts and preppers. So funny.
Its not funny anymore. As I watch a feral mob, with the full throated support of our media set out to tear down the relics of our past, to condemn us for the color of our skin, and the so called sins of our fathers, I feel nothing but anger in my heart.
An anger that has no reconciliation. For if I were to peaceably voice this anger, as our governing principles supposedly say I have the right too, I would be attacked. Physically attacked at the place of my protest, and then hounded by a lawless vigilante mob given full moral writ for its extrajudicial actions.
So what other recourse is left open? If I can no longer voice my anger peacefully? I know I am not alone in this feeling.
god its not funny anymore i agree. seeing these statues being taken down like nothing i just cant take it. i cant go long without thinking about the state of america.
Nicholas Perry
Only a tiny percentage of the public thinks there will be a civil war, and even fewer want there to be one.
Colton Lewis
Crybaby
Blake Garcia
lol i am. im a very sensitive person. i also dont want a civil war or to leave america but i feel like its getting tense.
Blake Martinez
If you take a poll of any people anywhere, and ask them, "do you want war, yes or no", they will invariably and without fail say no.
Humans don't go into wars intending to do so. The Syrian Civil War, Ongoing now for almost 6 years, was completely accidental. Nobody who went out into those streets back in 2011 assumed that years later the country would be in a bloody orgy that still shows no sign of resolution. Ask anyone back in in 2011 if this is what they wanted, even on the government side, and they will all say no.
The problem in Syria though is the same problem as in the United States. Growing irreconcilable political differences. The Left-Right divide was already pretty toxic since the Reagan era. But the more recent introduction of race based identity politics to the left-right divide has added the necessary ingredients for an explosion.
I am a leftist. In ever political election since 2004, I have voted for the Democratic Candidate, except in 2016 when I voted for Gary Johnson. But even me, at 30 years old, no longer recognizes the political discourse. But I understand its intent. And its intent is hostile to me. Not for anything I believe, or anything I have done, but because of the color of my skin. My white skin.
That is the poisoned pill added to the toxic soup of America's tribal politics. And it weaponized the mixture. ANTIFA and BLM are now striking the matches.
Joseph Jackson
The "liberals" are not actually liberals. They operate under a Marxian philosophy.
>“The function and value of tolerance,” Marcuse explained, “depend on the equality prevalent in the society in which tolerance is practiced” (Marcuse 1965, p. 84). Driven as they are by the engines of advertising, propaganda, and militarism in the service of ever-increasing affluence, advanced liberal capitalist societies are defined by their inequality. Moreover, their dominant social institutions, including the “monopolistic media,” use new and dystopian forms of “technological and mental coordination” to administer what has become a “totalitarian,” self-perpetuating system (pp. 94, 95, 97). In these societies, where “the economic and political process is subjected to an ubiquitous and effective administration in accordance with the predominant interests,” individuals have been systematically divested of their capacity to think as rational, autonomous individuals (p. 115). As such, they have lost their capacity to pursue truth through the free exercise of their individual reason, and, in turn, to create a just and humane society.
The Marxists ridiculously think that an open market place of ideas is repressive, and that Marxists using any means necessary to repress non-Marxist values is the opposite of repression. They literally think that they can do whatever it takes to suppress non-Marxist thought. They control academia, the legacy media, NGOs and parts of the government. They think that they can use violence to suppress any non-Marxist thoughts.
I find it hard to believe that bloodshed will be avoided.
Hunter Gonzalez
>Even fewer want there to be one.
Nope. The left is chomping at the bit. I just watched some Mexican comedian (Lopez I think) and he had a bit where he joked about out breeding whites and how we'll be a minority soon. People were dying laughing.
The left is more than will to off as many whites as possible. War is coming.
Eli Ross
>worrying about fighting this guy kek
Samuel Perry
It won't be a civil war. Just massive civil unrest, but not an actual war.
Parker Gray
>The society’s ceaseless congratulation of itself for its commitment to “the marketplace of ideas” acts as an opiate on the mass consciousness, turning individuals away from radical possibilities and reconciling them to the status quo (p. 110). While the toleration of ostensible dissent is celebrated, truly “effective dissent” becomes impossible (p. 95). Under these historical conditions, the purportedly neutral “liberalist” tolerance becomes repressive (p. 90).
The very fabric of America is at threat. The liberal idea that you can believe what you believe is being killed right as I type this. You cannot underestimate the threat.
This is where the "punch nazis" meme comes from. Herbert Marcuse, of the Frankfurt School.
Luke Johnson
>worrying about fighting these fucks Relax my nigga just hit the gym
Lucas Taylor
All of these statues can get fucked because they are monuments to failure >They are monuments to a time when the south rose up against this country and lost, protecting something not worth fighting for
It is now associated with white supremacy, not with anything positive, so fuck it. Fuck General Lee, fuck the confederate flag, and fuck all your statues. If I had it my way they'd be in a museum or something, collecting dust, but states are showing that isn't worth it to them. So fuck your relics. I'm white I don't associate my whiteness to your stupid fucking confederate flag.
Owen Perry
More like a non sunni oil pipeline plan from iran through northern iraq, through syria, into the med.
Saudi arabia kicked it off with al nusra front and other hard-line saudi funded Wahhabi groups planted in syria. they got out of hand and formed ISIS/ISIL. The FSA was by far the minority who were nationalists trying to make their way in midst of it all. Subsequently they had to form alliances with the hardliners because where else could they go. The deal was the US supplied the weapons to the "rebels", and in return, Saudi would dump oil in the market to drive prices down to hurt russia and magnify the effect of us sponsored sanctions due to Ukraine crisis.
Jordan Allen
Its a mistake...
We should wage war on the kikes that have their corrupt roots in every facet of our society. We need to wake people up to the fact that they are the problem.
Otherwise its never going to end.
Samuel Kelly
>worrying about fighting these pussies KEK
Zachary Ortiz
Try some more ECT.
You stupid insane fuck.
Isaac Morales
Don't come he're. Were full
Ryder Lee
voting will not work, it has not worked. It's either Balkanization or dystopia
Joseph Carter
>Nope. The left is chomping at the bit. I just watched some Mexican comedian (Lopez I think) and he had a bit where he joked about out breeding whites and how we'll be a minority soon. People were dying laughing.
The left is already fighting the civil war. They have been fighting it for a decade. All that is left to do is for the right to start fighting too.
The only thing left to do is to respond in kind and retaliate. If a leftist thinks that they can label someone a "nazi", whatever the fuck that even means now, and then use violence against them to suppress free speech, then THAT leftist doesn't have a right to free speech or safety. They are fair game for equal or greater retaliation.
If a leftist gets someone fired, they are fair game.
If leftists violate freedom of assembly, they are fair game.
If a journalist or celebrity is anti-free speech, they are fair game.
Chase Cruz
Remember this. They are by the very nature cowards. Meaning they are vicious and opportunistic. They won't fight fair or directly. Like a beaten down dog, they will bite in disproportionate force from a low or obscured quarter.
Remember they are cowards, and you will do well. Think for an instant that they will face force with force and you will be caught unawares. It's not the hardest shot that gets you, its the one you don't see coming or didn't consider.
Isaiah Watson
>I'm white I don't associate my whiteness to your stupid fucking confederate flag.
You are so dumb. The Marxists are coming for you next right after they are done with the statues. They want to wipe your Whiteness from the face of the planet.
Joshua Smith
I can't stand Lopez. And WTF is wrong with his nose? Looks like an actual troll nose. I miss Chappelle.
Austin Walker
ALEX JONES WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING
Andrew Bennett
Yeah it'll basically be a right wing chimpout without leadership or organisation. Random groups of larpers taking up arms and committing terrorist attacks against minorities or taking over government buildings. deep state police will be taking them out while the media goes nuts and lefties cheering on police brutality for once
Luke Long
But I thought trump was going to save white people lmao
Gavin Roberts
t. has never had to lose a memorial to his own people What Yank state are you from? Pennsylvania? They'll be coming for the Franklin statues soo- oops, I mean now.
Nicholas Morris
>Guns >Nuts >Peppers There could be better choices for survival in the woods.
Zachary Cooper
It's called fighting smart.
Sebastian Gutierrez
what about all the black people?
Juan Torres
going to australia then
Jose Fisher
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Landon Jenkins
Who said anything about Confederate monuments?
The Confederate monuments are just the low hanging fruit. A victim narrative will always require more victims. Once General Lee is gone, they will come for Columbus and Andrew Jackson. Also low hanging fruit, but a bit higher up. They did HORRIBLE things to the natives! After they are gone, it will be time to toss Woodrow Wilson and both Roosevelts under the bus. Wilson was a raging southern racist, and the Roosevelts were super racist to Asians and South Americans! And after that, its time to come for Jefferson and Washington. After all, both owned slaves, one was a rapist, and the other duped the natives out of their land!
And when its all gone, the history and culture can be rewritten as the new power structure sees fit. A power structure based not on merit, but victimization. And as Jefferson himself warned, we will wake up slaves in the land our forbears conquered for us.
The fact that you cannot feel the ropes being tied to you is sad.
Bentley Gutierrez
Please be true.
Luis Morris
Right wingers won't be fighting lefties. They'll be fighting police and national guard. Lefties aren't going to take up arms it'll be the right wingers which will bring in the authorities. Anyone that thinks theyll be exchanging fire with a tranny is a moron. It'll be swat teams called to your home when the FBI figures out you've joined some militia while some tranny is smugly smiling at your arrest watching TV from home
Nicholas Ward
Direct action is not the most intelligent course. Better to create an atmosphere where the government takes on the load. Let the Dep of Justice do the heavy lifting. You work on providing cover for their storm troops.
Tyler Murphy
No Americans allowed
Brayden Flores
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Ayden Bell
Most didnt think civil war was possible
Even after session started
Even after Sumter
Even after Bull Run they thought that would be it.
Jose Butler
It totally depends on the nature of the "fight". In many instances you're right.
Speed and aggression have won more conflicts, military or otherwise, in history than any other tactic.
Doesn't mean its the best for all occasions though.
Ian Young
do you think some officers and people in the military would side with the right wingers?
Thomas Barnes
>historical relics become assigned to whatever the fuck category I claim it to be because reasons and current year fuck off you are literately attacking and tearing down historic relics of American ancestry. You alt-left crazies are becoming more radical by the day. When does it stop? It doesn't, and we both know this. You guys are attempting to rip apart culture and our history and our ancestry. kill yourself
Grayson Ortiz
That was the hope, the rot is too deep.
Justin Robinson
>white people were never property Holy Roman Empire
Carson Kelly
if Don declares martial law then the Military and LE apparatus are immediately on our side
Colton Diaz
Absolutely. Most of them are right leaning for now.
James Martin
I.) get a gun for PROTECTION only.
II.) do NOT instigate any confrontations.
III.) please p l e a s e PLEASE lift, train, condition, and work out everyday.
IV.) be kind and spread happiness to at least one person a day.
V.) it's okay to have right-right sentiments, even far-right; just be certain to not let that cloud your perception of the individuals around you.
VI.) IF anything does break out, use your gun and strength to protect your family at ALL costs; especially if you're white, there are plenty of revenge-lusting POC who wouldn't mind looting your house.
VII.) run a mile a day, endurance wins the war; fatigue is the most daunting enemy.
Please heed these warnings, the US would never recover from a civil war; if our nation is to survive and overcome the Chinese and Russians, we mustn't let our internal strife cripple us.
Caleb Myers
The "true" liberals have gone futher left or right its sad.
Carson Lopez
And manor serfdom. And many white people came to the colonies as indentured servants, especially in the south.
Luis Johnson
Plenty would But even more would be willing to wage war on the people they swore to protect. These are the type of people created in the military and police force
Cameron Reed
>when does it stop
That's my big hangup. If the left had a stated objective to their actions that wasn't intangible, evolving, or amorphous, but proper measurable goal posts, then the movement wouldn't seem so damn backwards and destructive.
But they don't, so they seem like children throwing a tantrum because "it's not fair", whatever "it" (the flavor of the moment) is.
Gavin Ross
No cavalry charge? Damn
Leo Turner
>You know what you call people who can't talk to each other? Enemies. Jordan Peterson
You ever make an irrefutable argument to a lefty and they come back like you didn't say anything? It's over; there's nothing left to talk about. Stefan was right.
Chase Peterson
Yes but for the most part they will do their duty. They won't be fghting "trump supporters". They'll be arresting people the FBI have told them are terrorists and taking out armed militias. People on here seem to forget that the FBI is largely conservative but theyre working against trump.
Aiden Walker
>Most didnt think civil war was possible That's pretty unfounded, the socioeconomic divide between the north and south was pretty fucking apparent, especially when freed-slave laws became a point of contention between states. As it stands, most of Americans are fairly satisfied with the system itself--they really just want adjustments to it to fix [x] agenda. There isn't very much of a cultural divide between states as Sup Forums and MSM would want you to believe.
Is a civil war possible? No, certainly not a full-scale violent one. We're really going to see a new culture war a la the '60s with the increased dissent/dissatisfaction of the '70s-- neither of which brought civil war. If fucking Civil Rights, the Gas crisis, and the fucking Great Depression didn't spark Civil War, a bunch of far-right millennials who aren't even backed by the state won't either. Total delusion.
Lincoln Mitchell
Pretty much. I was a huge fan of Jim Webb. After the inquisition came for him, I was faced with a stark choice. Go down the rabbit hole masochism and unending appeasement for the judged sins of dead men I never met, or move right.
I moved right. And that apparently makes me a nazi. Also scum. So here I stand. I can do no other.
Matthew Fisher
Well you're not getting out of here without being called a dumbass for not seeing this coming miles away from here. But just cause I'm laughing that you're dumb enough to not see this coming, doesn't mean I don't empathize with you. My only pain is knowing that I can do nothing about it because I live in a northern tundra land where I'm desparately paying off the debt Jew and working my ass off so I'm not fucked when the economic collapse comes. I don't know what to tell you to do with your anger, since I've already processed this shit a while ago, now I'm just at the depressed and accepting phase. I just wanna go to a rally where I can smash a fucking commies face in with a rock... is that so much to ask?
Colton Cox
>Be 55 I ain't training to run a mile a day I have a Mare's Leg on my tractor.
Charles Gutierrez
THIS. He was redpilled in his own way.
Brandon Flores
I've been saying to people that the country hasn't been this divided since the Civil War. I think that's literally true now.
I don't think another civil war is inevitable, but it's a possibility. tensions are running pretty high.
Jeremiah Butler
>that pic We live in an age of weakness
Grayson Powell
Leftists by definition want your property and are violating the NAP. They're always fair game.
Brayden Roberts
The Irish where. Plus the Muslim had many white slaves. This guy is a lair or a fool.
Benjamin Morgan
shutup whitey you should be ashamed of your heritage and skin color bend over and suck black dick you racist piece of shit you will be privileged till you are eliminated
:^)
Austin Hall
I'm just waiting for it to spread over here. No guns though, so we're fucked.
Adrian Taylor
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Aiden Phillips
Bashing some with a rock will not kill them 99% of the time. Take it from a guy who had his head bashed in with a rock and is fine.
Xavier Scott
it's bad when cuck Canada is the best place to be. Mudslimes taking over Europe, Civil unrest in the U.S, nobody gives a fuck about Aussie land. Yep we're fucked.
Gavin Barnes
>the sandnigger thinks he's roman
Nicholas Kelly
You have no idea how wars start do you.
People don't just decide "Right lets go to war with our neighbours" no its a slow, gradual break down of relations, then the violence starts and it spirals out of control.
Next thing one side is being funded and armed and the other side is having to defend itself. This is exactly what happened in Syria and Ukraine and you are stupid if you think it wont happen in America.
Soros wants a civil war. Its the only way he can "Re organise" the society to how he see's fit "Open borders/Open society BS"
Chase Richardson
Similar experience. The shift has been quite rapid for me. I've despised left-wing identity politics for a while, yet I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump in November, so I gave into the part of me that was still liberal and voted for Hillary (to say I did so begrudgingly would be an understatement). Yet seeing how the left has doubled down on its violent racism since their karmic defeat in November, instead of learning their lesson and seeking to make amends with the non-racist Berniecrats, I can no longer stand shoulder to shoulder with them. For in the end, they would seek to silence, shame and oppress me anyway. Might as well stand up now while there's a fighting chance. I'm done with this Marxist horde. I wish /ourguy/ Trump all the best.
Dominic Gomez
You know when they are done with the Europeans they are coming after you Turkbro.If we go down learn from our mistakes give (((them))) and the real mudslimes hell!
Asher Thompson
Military, cops and alphabet will reck larpers on both sides. To prevent further conflicts USA will go full 1984. You can screen this for later.
Carson Bailey
The Left censors free speech on their campuses. They drive out dissident voices. Even professors have voiced their concerns that they are afraid of being outed by their students.
These students will one day be in positions of power.
Oh, and they say you can't be racist to a white person because of historical privilege...
Thomas Ramirez
Hilarious how triggered you fucks are getting over this.
Josiah Bennett
Is that fucking Nazi kike dead yet?
David Green
>In one corner, a cavalcade of traditionalists, conservatives, textbook fascists, ethnic nationalists, civic nationalists, many with military training and ownership of personal firearms. Loosely linked by a desire to preserve heritage and culture >Other corner, confederation of leftists, anarchists, communists, revolutionaries, loosely united by their hatred of the other side. Tendency to suffer from infighting and self-cannibalism
I'm getting a Spanish Civil War vibe from this more than anything, only with more ethnic strife.
AYE lad see you on the shield wall.Lets hope this shit blows over.
Jace King
A joke is only funny up until the point its no longer funny.
Connor Lee
I'm not right wing at all but I'm getting sick of the left. Just today I tried to explain to an anatchist why I dislike anarchy on principal and got spit on. Last week my professor downgraded me because my report on the Spanish civil war seemed 'too right friendly.' For fuck sakes man all I did was list the reasons why Franco won and how the republicans were fighting against their own allies half the time. I'm just sick of them I really am. They see everything through a lens of division.
But as much as I despise their world views I don't want war. It is destructive and pointless, I try to make peace but it seems that both sides especially the left are looking for a fight and craving violence. I've had literally better quality of conversations here and on Reddit with rightists than I could ever with the leftists.
Ian Stewart
You know who is more pathetic than pol? The leftist cucks that come here to shill. If you guys are not getting paid I fell bad for you.
Ryder Kelly
Honestly I'm amazed that there hasn't been a major incident yet, I mean the cops getting shot in Dallas and the Scalise shooting kind of were but even those somehow got swept under the rug. But what I mean is with everything that's gone on in these protests lately, a major happening just wouldn't surprise me at all anymore
Luke Ward
They are crazy now, fuck them. Most of the right wing guys here are former classical liberals that go got redpilled. Welcome to the rabbit hole hold on tight.
Jackson Lewis
His head is really fucking big too
Liam Watson
Let them burn it all. The divine spark of civilization will never be extinguished. Men will always find a way to survive and carry on the belief of sovereignty and virtue even if it comes at great cost.
Ayden Watson
Because most Americans still believe in the American system. The problem now is that the Left wing has declared the system "Racist" and in need of destruction/revision. Conservative revolts have much longer fuses then revolutionary revolts. But they are still possible given sufficient motivation.
The Spanish Civil War metaphors are eerily apt honestly.
Elijah Myers
even if they're getting paid, it's still terrible. they probably thought their work would be more interesting than shitposting with the neckbeards.
I know what you mean. my philosophy always was, live and let live. let people do what they want, as long as it doesnt violate anyone else. I even voted for Obama.
but then I started observing things. the SJW screeching, antifa instigating violence, fake news media, Europe being slowly destroyed via importation of migrant hordes, etc. I'm like, holy shit, this is not working out, and the right-wing needs to keep this in check.
Leo Robinson
Yeah but I'm not like you guys. In glad we can have an open conversation I just wish I could do the same with the opposing side too. On any leftist subreddit if I told them what I told you I'd be banned on the spot. It's a shame though because I really want to understand them and their point of view, but as soon as they hear you are not one of them they close themselves off from you.
Andrew Rodriguez
There wont be a civil war, the right and left are going to simple devolve into what amounts to gangs, Antifa is already there, the (((Alt Right))) will start getting more violent and organized in response, both sides will start assuming if your not with them your against them and innocents will get caught into the mix, basically America is just going to be torn to shreds by what amounts to a nation wide gang war.
Christopher Turner
Imagine being a poor military bastard like me. Stuck in Hawaii, a leftist paradise, basically all by my lonesome when the war starts.
Oliver Nguyen
>America is just going to be torn to shreds by what amounts to a nation wide gang war. >There wont be a civil war,
???
Nolan Wilson
>I'm white Not after that post.
Luke Diaz
> not funny kek do you need a hug mate? man up.
imo normies should petition the POTUS to provide some area outside the cities where aut-whatever types can gather and go at each other, televise the whole thing and once the skirmishes are finished helicopter everyone involved in the grand canyon. As a bonus throw in all these shit journalists and political commentators and e-celebs you got.
Carson Long
There's definitely gonna be a civil war, the likes of which we've never seen before anywhere in the world. I'm talking military coup after military coup, national guards fighting militias and other national guards, foreign volunteers the world over. It ain't gonna be north vs south though. It's gonna be Democrat vs Republican, and a bunch of splinter groups nationwide. It's gonna be very grim. UN is gonna get involved. Rights are gonna be restricted. A lot of people are gonna die. I don't think it will end until one side conquers the other.
Luis Collins
So how badly are you going to shit your pants when conservatives actually wake up?
You realize, we are the ones with the guns right?
Logan Kelly
Don't tease me user, I got half of a chub going.
Jose Cruz
never going to happen, the government is not going to get involved, they might try to "police" the situation but they wont take sides.
Landon Edwards
hey at least we can build statues, where are all the leftist statues? you are just busy tearing down shit because it reminds you of white ingenuity
Logan Powell
wait till you start spotting echoes. that was the one that really blew my fucking head off and sent me into seclusion.
Dylan James
Same here. I basically always vote left/liberal, but you literally can't even have a conversation with a lot of people on 'that side' about certain issues any more - as soon as you start a sentence about a several topics it's shut down for being something -ist, even if you're challenging nonsense.
Plus their constant hypocritical lying pisses me off. Their are so many 'facts' which if you take more than a second to look at the statistics turn out to be complete rubbish - but they are repeated endlessly.