Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Seems like the left in North America will simply fall prey to Hispanic nationalism after a few decades of their open borders policy.
Colton Murphy
How to be communist, Spurdo explains in 3 simple steps
Dominic Myers
This should be the discussion of faggot that need to go back to lefty pol or reddit
Nathan Campbell
oh get the fuck outta here
shekel for the good goy
Christopher Robinson
>draw cartoon >get rich
Gommunism worgs!
Isaiah Wright
>137896380 Interbreed. Mate with their women and assume their creed along with yours. No dirty hispanics left to claim nationalism and no one can tell the difference between spanics and americans,
Elijah Russell
>COMMUNISM IS INEVITABLE SORT OF... MAYBE... IN THE FUTURE???
The pipe dream continues.
Joshua Morgan
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Luke Stewart
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liguidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis
>Sdage for Not real gommunism. Move on do nexd coundry XDDdDDD
Justin Brown
Communism never works thats one reason why there isn't the soviet union today. All you commies were ever good for was fucking up Nazis in ww2
Gabriel Gomez
TFW poor white person (cannot even afford dentist) ib4 getta job, hardly any good jobs in my city and have to compete with third world guest laborers TFW Marxist TFW get blamed for Liberal identity politics TFW I hear people on this board about talk about "marxist bankers" and "Marxist Hollywood" and "Marxist videogame industry"
Jordan Hughes
Hey Hungary, can you tell us a bit about how the Soviets destroyed many beautiful landmarks in Budapest and other places for being "too nationalistic"? There was one Hungarian user that had a bunch of before/after pics.
Kevin Rogers
White supremacist states don't work. They failed every time. Therefore it would be dumb to want to try it again.
Aaron Campbell
neither does communism
Daniel Thomas
Like clockwork.
Robert Howard
The goal is to find a system that works. Even if its not textbook communism
Isaiah Lewis
Most communist systems end in a dictatorship even if they say it is communism. I would research the soviet union and the state of civilians there.
Adam Rivera
Communist showing his findings in the search for a working system of communism.
What is wrong with a dictatorship who doesn't do anything unhitched? This isn't the 1940s anymore.
Ayden Stewart
cuba
Austin Bell
Name a successful modern communist country.
Tyler Ortiz
See thats what i dont understand. Where in nationalism is domination stated? LOL
Dylan Russell
I've seen those pics, but I don't have them. Soviets and commies idealized shutty ultraugly architecture that is basically 100% premade concrete. The style was dubbed "socialist realism", because even the ornamental ones were restricted to depicting supposedly "real", but idealized socialist workers and other revolutionary subjects.
Brody King
Remind what Zimbabwe and South Africa are like now that whites aren't in charge.
Just because communists and neoliberals dogpile on a WN country to destroy it, that doesn't mean the system itself was bad.
South Africa was ruined because Soviets backed Mandela (a communist who ordered his men to burn white people alive), and also back by the US under Jimmy Cucker, who was a softy retard that didn't understand the geopolitical ramifications of what he was doing. He also let Iran and OPEC cuck us during his term.
Landon Reed
Most of the first world successfully implemented forms of socialism
Connor Miller
White supremacists cucks should be communists Communism preserved white people on east europe far better than capitalism in the west
Jacob Richardson
This is my favorite, the inscription says "All power to the working people!", and the working people look like niggers, LOL.
Logan Hill
nice joke sage
Jeremiah Sanders
>half the planet declares war on you >fight incredibly well, almost win >only lose due to numbers >"HAHA LOOKS LIKE YOUR POLITICAL SYSTEM DIDN'T WORK LOL"
how retarded are you
Blake Wright
Marxism fails economically, nationalism fails because they get invaded for doing nothing wrong. countries that did not get invaded, like francoist Spain, are wildly successful
Matthew Roberts
dido was nod real gommunist and was of revisionids xddddddDDD Xd :DDDD
nadionalism nod bard of gommunism if you gommunist you speak 1 language and nadionalism begining of nazi so nadionalism illegal XDDDD
if you do badriodig celebration or spoke in moder dongue XDD or do anyding oder dan sdarve yuo nod real gommunist and send of goolag. nod real gommunism XDDDD :DDDDD
Christopher Rivera
see
Nathan Scott
>cuba >successful
bernie sanders please go
Owen Roberts
Preserved white communists, not people. White people are illegal in the USSR and they get sent to the gulag.
Nathaniel Rivera
Mandela implemented Neoliberal economic policies in South Africa not communist ones. Under Mandela many state owned companies were privatized
Austin Powell
TFW Cuba is a third world country with a lower infant mortality rate the US
Robert Murphy
And they are collapsing. Sweden is great example, nearly 0% or development since they implemented "forms of socialism"
Chase Gonzalez
bumping for putting a stop to hate, through the ballot or the bullet.
Alexander Rogers
Also a lower population in general. Hmmmmmm...........there might be a correlation...................
Liam Evans
Just like Harry Potter, amirite?
Ian Sullivan
At what point did I say socialism?
You have even lower standards that I expected. Your idea of Successful is a nation that regularly sees its citizens fleeing to America via life rafts akin to the refugee crisis of Europe?
Christian Wood
Kill yourself red scum SAGE
Dylan Bailey
based Finland
Dominic Davis
do you not understand how infant mortality rates are measured, size of the population has nothing to do with it
Henry Ramirez
t. too dumb to be communist
William Thomas
Hey its the Alt-Left thread. Don't forget to sage all alt left threads.
Justin Walker
>open borders policy >without establishing a socialist order first Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Those borders get closed the fuck down. And you suppress non-white nationalism just like you suppress white nationalism.
Dominic Davis
When are you r-selected LARPers who are funded by NGOs gonna start protesting La Raza and BLM?
Seems like you only focus on white nationalism, and I have a good idea (((who))) is behind it.
Adrian Green
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Luke Collins
I don't control the Antifa tactics, so I can't tell if they will let themselves be subverted by the liberal establishment or not.
But they need to get more violent, not less.
Adam Torres
SAGE goes in all fields
Juan Evans
Too humane.
Samuel Scott
Labour Theory of Value (LTV):
Non arguments:
>If I dig a hole in my backyard and then fill it in I used labor but made no value! Commies BTFO!
Marx clarified (unlike adam smith) that only socially nessary labor (labor used to produce a commodity with use value) creates value. This is also the case if you spend 1000 years making a bed.
>Nature can create value as well. If an apple falls from a tree then value is created without labor
Marx also noted nature could create value.
>if labor determines price why is coca cola cheaper than bottled water?
Labor doesn't determine price. It determines value (not exchange value or use value) and correlates with the equilibrium price. Supply and demand determine price.
Machines cannot create value. If I make a machine that makes diamonds out of thin air then the value of a diamond falls below that of bricks now that they can be aquired with no work what so ever. Price might not fall because you can still manipulate supply and demand but value certainly does.
Some definitions.
Use value = How useful an object is. Exchange value = Market value of a commidity. Different from use value. You can sell a beanie baby for 200$ but it is almost completely useless. Value = the amount of congealed labor withing a commodity.
If labor determines value, then why are people willing to pay so much for trading cards that cost less than a penny to make?
Brandon Jones
fuck off alt-left faggot
Xavier Robinson
China is pretty successful. Also quite communist.
Julian Richardson
communists can't even figure out what gender they want to be let alone begin to understand economics
absolutely pathetic
Joseph Jenkins
>when you can get fired anytime your boss pleases >when you don't get pension payments by default, unless you work in public sector >when you have to pay for healthcare >when you join the """communist""" party for better private business opportunities and connections >when you wage slave in multinational company 6 days a week
Not really communist. Seen that with my own eyes a few years ago. I saw a dozen guys get fired in 6 months in a small business, mostly for no other reason than the boss being an asshole.
Daniel Peterson
China is a Han nationalist fascist state. They gave up gommunism after Mao died, and they made a deal with Nixon.
It determines value (not use or exchange value) but not price
Carter Peterson
USSR was a Russian nationalist state. We gave up gommunism after Lenin died, and we made a deal with Hitler.
Joshua Stewart
Nice.
William Martinez
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Ayden Collins
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Jason Thompson
True in a way. Stalin did purge a lot of the sneaky Jews like (((Trotsky))).
Though I'd say it was more like a new Russian nationalist empire, since you buttraped the Baltics and Eastern Europe. Maybe it was a Slavic nationalist state.
You might need to visit a capitalist country for a good education.
Jaxon Brooks
reminds me of pic related
Hunter Murphy
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Cameron Young
it's statecap you nigger
Aaron Reed
Who wins in a stupidity contest, you or the ancaps?
Charles Garcia
go move to a kibbutz
Chase Campbell
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Zachary Clark
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Alexander Fisher
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Isaiah Anderson
How exactly did SA fail? We got over run by niggers which lead to where we are today. Maybe you should read into your shitty image macros more.
Anthony Moore
>>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need"
Communism still has a ruling party that elevates the members position in society above that of the proles. Nice try dick head.
John Edwards
>shilling for communism on a site with posters from ex-commie countries
HAHAHA
Blake Ross
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Nathaniel Walker
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Andrew Lewis
Tuck that graphic into your prolapsed as hole.
Ryan Bennett
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Ethan Williams
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William Campbell
We need to realise this plan
Luis Peterson
kys. On second thought, let my .223 do it for you.
>widely successful >poorest country in western europe
Pick one
Jayden Ramirez
Why is there a thread on a board called politically incorrect about an ideology that has received praise from CNN, Mitt Romney, and every other faggot media jew puppet in the last week? Commies are not politically incorrect, you're exactly what the system endorses. Fuck off and die.