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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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users.wfu.edu/cottrell/eea97.pdf
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How do we eradicate identity politics, comrades?

helo Gomrade XX----DDDdd!!!11

kil the religous!1! x---D

Making them understand that only a true democratic society (communism) can solve most of their individual problems, and they need to look only for themselves and grasp the big picture

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low energy. Sad!

What do we think of Rojava?

>communism

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

It's implying it's all so much simpler than it really is. It's not like getting the food to the needed places comes at a logistical cost. And homelessness? "I'm sorry, we need to requisition your grandpa's unsold house to a crack head".

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anyone using the commie flag should be banned

> be farmer
> be hard-worker
> commies came to power
> they take all your shit, what your earn by hardworking, and give it to lazy drunkers
> send you to siberia
> hardworking again in siberia
> commies take all your food again
> you starve and then die.
COMMUNIST REALITY.

COMMUNISTS CARE ABOUT PEOPLE. (no)

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Pretty good, but they want to be anarchists right?

They're american puppets. Nothing more.

(((COMMUNISM)))

Welp their goes that plan, do you have articles or something that explains this.

Labour Theory of Value (LTV):

Non arguments:

>If I dig a hole in my backyard and then fill it in I used labor but made no value! Commies BTFO!

Marx clarified (unlike adam smith) that only socially nessary labor (labor used to produce a commodity with use value) creates value. This is also the case if you spend 1000 years making a bed.

>Nature can create value as well. If an apple falls from a tree then value is created without labor

Marx also noted nature could create value.

>if labor determines price why is coca cola cheaper than bottled water?

Labor doesn't determine price. It determines value (not exchange value or use value) and correlates with the equilibrium price. Supply and demand determine price.

Machines cannot create value. If I make a machine that makes diamonds out of thin air then the value of a diamond falls below that of bricks now that they can be aquired with no work what so ever. Price might not fall because you can still manipulate supply and demand but value certainly does.

Some definitions.

Use value = How useful an object is.
Exchange value = Market value of a commodity. Different from use value. You can sell a beanie baby for 200$ but it is almost completely useless.
Value = the amount of congealed labor withing a commodity.


Some evidence of the LTV
users.wfu.edu/cottrell/eea97.pdf

This makes sense. Maybe Marxism isn't so bad after all

Just organize collective enterprises, retards. Raise funds from all workers, become stockholders, pay generous dividends to each other

don't fall for anti-YPG propaganda from actual russians. It's true America provides air support in their fight against ISIS, but they are very anti-western imperialism and they educate their fighters on that.

some tankies are anti-YPG because they think they're after Assad, which isn't true because they coordinate with him against ISIS and both hate Erdogan

the we are participating in sustaining the system we want to change

Glorious as always, came for this post.

XD COMMIE LOL WTF IS COMMIEEMEMENISM KEKEKEKE XD AHAHAHAH GUD MEME LETS KILL 1000000000 BEOPLE XD GOMRADE AGAHHA FUCK THE UPPER CLASS WE GOMMIE NAO LMAO ALSO I SUCC STALIN DICC LENIN AND TROSTSKY FAGGOT GOT KILLED WITH ICEPICK FUCK TROSTSKY HE IS A BETA JEW COMMIE CANNOT BEATIN THE STALIN FUCC YEA HEIL COMEMENISME AHA LOL LMAO XD REDDIT I KNOW RIGTH

I think socialists call identity politics a form of false consciousness. It's actually part of the capitalist plot to subvert the power of lower classes. Brainwash them into moaning about race and gender, but in the process further legitimizing the class system. Second wave feminism is a perfect example, where by telling women that empowerment = employment, they both weaken the family and strengthen the market's grip on our lives. Identity politics is like the matrix, a false mental prison meant to hide the true material basis of repression.

HOLY SHIEEET ITS COMMIS THREAD AGAIN OMG I CANNT BELIEVE R COMMIS ARE DIS RETAREDED PROBABLY GOING FOR HELI RIDE GOD COMMIS JUST LOVE GETTING HELIED AROUND AHAHAH SO FUNNIE LMOA AHAH XDD :>) I KNOW RIGHT FUCK ALT RIGHT GOMMIS ARE SO SMART AND INTELLIGENT LOL FUCC NAZIS

Your shit collectivist ideology will never work because people aren't equal.

From each according to their ability. To each according to their need.

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HEIL MARX O JEW WHO CREATE COMEMEMIENUSIM THE OLD BEARDED JEW WHO SLACK AROUND AND MANAGED TO KILL 1000000000 GOYIM ROUND THE WORLD FUCC CAPTITALISM AMIRITE? WORKERS UNITE LIKE CHIMPS AND CHIMPOUT COZ WE ARE THE WORLD WE WUZ COMMIES AND SHIT NIGGA KISS YOUR PROPERTY GUDBYE WE GONNA SPLIT IT EQUALLY FUCK YOUR OWNERSHIP XD FUCK YOU BTFO IDGAF LMAO YOU GUN GUD COMMIE BEST SYSTEM FUCC U ALL WHO DISAGREE WE ARE NUMBA ONE IDEOLOGY IN DA WELT!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH LETS GIVE ALL PEOPLE EQUAL SHIT YO WELFARE MY ASS I LUV COMMIES GIVE SHIT EQUALITY IF IT WORK I LUV GOMMIE SHIT I LOV GOBMMIE SHIT LMAO EQUAL RIGHT FUCC CAPTIALISM LET THEM EAT CAKE AMIRITE IS NO GOOD KANE HEIL MARX HEIL STALIN HEIL LENIN TROTSTKY CAN GO TO GULAG WITH ICEPICK COZ HE CANNOT INTO COMEMENISMA

JUDE LETS CONTROL GOYIM I KNOW I CREATE COMEMENISM DAT WHAY WHEN EVRYONE IS EQUAL I DA JUDEN CAN TAKE CONTROL OF EVRYTGING NOW I BECOME GUBMINT THANK U COMMEMENISM I LUV COMMIE USEFUL IDIOTS TRYING TO DO REVOLUTION HERE AND THRER SUCH IS GOYIM HEREDED LIKE SHEEP COZ GET FOOLED BY COMMEMENISM STUPID GOYIM AHAHAHA LMAO GOYIM BTFO

COMMUNISTS CARE ABOUT BEOPLE COZ THEY ARE STUPID AND USEFUL IDIOTS U KNOW WHAT THEY DO WITH THE SMARTASS THEY GO TO GULAG CRAMPED INTO PRISON DOING SHIT ALSO FOOD IS COLLECTIVES SINCE IS FOOD GIVEN INTO EQUAL BEOPLE NOT ENOUGH IS PRODUCED BUT MANY WANT FOOD SO THEY STARVE AND DIE AND IT IS ALL JUDEN FAULT WHILE USEFUL IDIOTS DIE FIGHTING FOR SCRAPS JUDEN MERRILY CELEBRARE DEAD OF GULLIBLE WHITE GOYIM

>BE FARMING FAG
> BE HARD WORKEE
> COMMIE ASS KISSEE
> COMMIE IS NOW IN POWER
> COMMIE TAKE ALL SHIT WHAT U EARN BY YOUR HARD WORK AND GIVE IT TO LAZY DRUNKARD
> SEND ME TO SIBERIA BECOZ I COMPLAIN
> MORE WORK IN SIBERIA
> COMMIES TAKE ALL MY FOOD DIS TIME
> STARVE TO DEATH. LIKE. A. DOG.
COMMUNIST REALITY.

prease continue your autism

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis. :^)))

Can you explain what is trotskyism?

XD COMMIE LOL WTF IS COMMIEEMEMENISM KEKEKEKE XD AHAHAHAH GUD MEME LETS KILL 1000000000 BEOPLE XD GOMRADE AGAHHA FUCK THE UPPER CLASS WE GOMMIE NAO LMAO ALSO I SUCC STALIN DICC LENIN AND TROSTSKY FAGGOT GOT KILLED WITH ICEPICK FUCK TROSTSKY HE IS A BETA JEW COMMIE CANNOT BEATIN THE STALIN FUCC YEA HEIL COMEMENISME AHA LOL LMAO XD REDDIT I KNOW RIGTH

TROTSKY IS A JEW WHO WANT TO TAKE CONTROL OF USSR BUT GOT BTFO BY STALIN COZ HE A JUDE BETA FAGGOT WHOSE IDEOLOGY IS SHIT AND WILL BE FORGOTTEN UNTIL END OF TIME NOBODY CARES ABOUT TROSTSKY BECAUSE HE IS A FAILURE OF A COMMIE NO COMMIE WANTS TO ASSOCIATE ITSELF WITH TROATSSKY FAIL AHAHAHHQ

Ohh trotskyism is.... shit yea its basically shit because nobody gives a shit of trostkiy

Stalinism is better version of communism than trostsky ssimsm will ever be. Its is dead ideology nobody cares lol

Last time I heard of trostsky is tht he got icepicked because he is a faggot. Stalin hated faggots like trostsky because trostky is a faggot jew who cannot even take over ussr and hiding like a coward in mexico land of the shithole but got killed anyway because he cannot hide his jewishness

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>BE FARMING FAG
> BE HARD WORKEE
> COMMIE ASS KISSEE
> COMMIE IS NOW IN POWER
> COMMIE TAKE ALL SHIT WHAT U EARN BY YOUR HARD WORK AND GIVE IT TO LAZY DRUNKARD
> SEND ME TO SIBERIA BECOZ I COMPLAIN
> MORE WORK IN SIBERIA
> COMMIES TAKE ALL MY FOOD DIS TIME
> STARVE TO DEATH. LIKE. A. DOG.
COMMUNIST REALITY YOU DUMB COMMIE U THINK COMMIE SYSTEM WORK NO OH TRUE COMMIE SYSTEM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED 1000000000 DIED O FUCK WE FAIL OH TRUE COMMIE SYSTEM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED 100000000 DIED O FUCK WE FAIL OH TRUE COMMIE SYSTEM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED 100000000 DIED O FUCK WE FAIL

I think frenchies is shit because muh liberte fraternite egalite never works

HI COMRADES LETS DISCUSS WHY WE SHOULD AN HERO AND MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE FOR U AND FOR ME AND THE ENTIRE WHITE RACE

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