Communism is inevitable

Not one of you is able to come up with a decent argument for why Communism doesn't work without resorting to fallacies.

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It's not that it "cant work" but concepts like free enterprise and private property are more appealing to me then a command economy with "collective" ownership

Religious idiots will only use their ancient fairy books to argue against communism, they only use emotional drivel to argue. Their intellectual inferiority is laughable and I almost pity them. Communism is based on science and there is no room for a wizard zombie.

The ideals of communism in itself are fallacies.

Hi /leftypol/

Since you're here I have a question: What were your views before /leftypol/, and how did you find it?

eat a dick and die commie. see you on the battlefield.

because the leadership is inevitably filled with sycophants who lack actual administrative skills

and because eventually people will start exploiting the disconnect between working and getting payed.

and because people want to be free

and because it just mechanically leads to inferior economic outcomes for everyone, and people would rather have more wealth than less.

It revolves around the two concepts of liberty. I'm not going to go into detail, but if you want to know more, go read (((Isaiah Berlin)))s original work, it's pretty interesting. Anyway, communism needs the state to intercede in order for it to come about (or in other words it can't form naturally), contrasted with capitalism that emerges naturally. The problem with that is that it requires "positive liberty", however Berlin thought argued that the implementation of positive liberty (with the aim of creating a society) would always lead to tyranny.

So is death, should I actively seek it out? on your behalf too, of course.

You should never be called upon to prove a negative. You make the statement that communism works YOU are the one who has to prove that statement.

How do you value the price of goods in a communist society?

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Under communism I'd have to get a job, a wife, and raise a family.

I don't want to because I'm a lazy neet.

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Commies are too stupid to see they are the useful idiots of globalist capitalists. The destruction of borders, and flooding the labor market with waves of immigrants is only going to make them richer while they hide behind their gated communities. Look at how the establishment is using all their power against us right now. Are you that stupid to think they are going to allow you to redistribute their wealth? After we're gone, you're next.

Commie chicks are fucking ugly.

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These communism jokes. Oh dear.
These topic are very funny. You made my day.

Communisim is inevita

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Private property exists under communism. You are thinking of privately owned capital.

Down to Communism.

If communism works so well, give me an example of it doing so since its conception.

Thats a good question but you could ask the same about how its done now. Measuring how valuable your labour is also is a question that we need to answer.

Bullshit, there is only personal property under communism. It includes stuff like clothes and a toothbrush. Real estate was not private in the Soviet Union, for example. All the housing belonged to the government, people were just assigned places to live.

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some people exist to extract the most out of least amount of input.

>social science

Right now the value of goods is the equilibrium of the values assigned to them by those who own goods and by those who desire them.

(((Social Science)))

Real estate shouldn't be privately owned you greed kike. The reason Putin steals 200 billion from Russia is because of capitalism.

We have Mrs. History to do that "coming up with an argument" thing for us.

I don't have to. I just have to point to the overwhelming failure of communism everywhere in history. Mad?

Communism is based on fallacious assertions itself.

"Seize the means of production"
>Audiable starvation of millions of Ukrainans and other Sovjet citizens.

Get out of here STALKER.

>literally dysgenics

Two main problems with communism:
1.) Economic Calculation Problem guarantees you're all going to be poor fucks
2.) >People will actually reply to this thread without saging

How can real communism work if we have never tried it?

50 U.S. Code Subchapter IV - COMMUNIST CONTROL
Not here
law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/chapter-23/subchapter-IV

This guy had plenty to say about why communism cannot work. Read up on him.

Communism has never been tried.

OH shit i used your own argument against you, damn I'm goood.

Sorry to tell you but corruption is worse in countries with more restrictive economic policies. The more you try to centralize power, the more people will want said power.

He was wrong about literally everything.

Communism has never solved the economic calculation problem, and never will:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem

Other than all of the other times communism didn't work, I'm sure it'll work next time!

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No they can, you're just to stupid understand any thing about economics,human nature ect.

Because it hasnt

Any proof that he stole 200 billion? That's what I thought. Fuck off with your MSM lies, retard.

>implying a man who rules the country like a monarch needs to steal money

You're right OP

And yet it does not work.

You don't want communism either,OP.
>Niggers, autists and snowflakes will have to work or GULAG!
You're really better off being a welfare leech in a capitalist society.

I'll entire dedicate my entire life to making you and yours suffer. Many of your friends are going to be screaming, in a basement with a bloody floor.
Feel free to kys to avoid any grisly fate that you justly deserve

Communism - Good idea, wrong species.

Hell yeah I can steal from the goernment and the public farms (PGR) again just like in the 70s

Tell me about your expeirience with communism you western cuck.

Communism is a mental illness.

daily reminder that communists are traiors of the people
viva la anarchy

The burden of proof is on you kike, prove that it does.

Up to you to give the argument. It has never been convincing to me, in what forms it's told, but I don't have the stunted capacity of a naive five year old.

What does not work? Public property already happens all over the place. That is just the first step

Shit idea, terrible principles

Human nature. Socialism doesn't take human nature into account..and works against it. Hence why communist countries have massive mass murder body counts

Capitalism is designed around human nature, not against it. It does have to be regulated, but it doesn't have to be dictatorial and totalitarian to exist like socialism does. That just comes along with the state owning the means of production and distribution that means by definition totalitarian control is built right in from the start..

Give me an example of how communism works without resorting to fallacies

equality doen't exist. you can't force it to exist, no matter how hard you try. full blown egalitarianism (communism) is an impossibility.

Real communisum, the specific blend of ideologies and policies that I arrogantly decide is best for the entire human race hasn't been tried yet, but when the globalists get full control they are most likely to implement my specific utopian vision and undoubtedly it will be implemented exactly as I would hope, for the benefit of all mankind, nobody would dare take advantage of a situation like that, even if it gave them more power than any man had previously experienced in recorded history.

Those two cunts don't even know who he is.

Communism would work if *I* were in charge.

Communism = perpetual failed state

If he had any he wouldnt be a fking communist kurwa
Faggots acting like women reading 50 shades "oh yeah cuff me communism, i want my life like in books i read"

It can't work... Soviet Union, China, Cuba... all oligarchies. Communism only works on a really, really, small scale and even then the hot young sister wife always gets fucked more than the others.

Marx already did that for me. Read the Communist manifesto

>Communism is inevitable

So is a bullet waiting for you if you try to take my stuff.

Just a reminder

At any point in time communists and socialists are free to get together and redistribute wealth amongst themselves

> spoilers ahead
> they haven't

>communism works because communist maifesto says so
>Bible is not the proof of God's existence

lol the left is dying, nobody believe in communism and leftists are rotting. I love to watch the poor leftists and rich leftists with their equally moot potential. You're nothing.

Please leave and go to venezuela.

Ok here is one.
Humans are inharently greedy
The only way for communism to be achived is via the transition of power from the state to the people. The only way for the state to transfer this power is to first obtain it all, via socialism in which the state controls everything. Now as humans are greedy, this transition from a socialist Nation to a communist Nation has never happened because human greed and desire for power does not allow it. You are correct is saying true communism has never been tried because no one has ever survived the socialist period. The only way it can feasibly work is if all power is transferred to a neutral third party with no vested interest in the outcome.

So it can't work because human by nature are greedy

It can't work because of human nature. Humans don't cooperate collectively for collective reward, they work collectively for individual reward. Under the theory of communism everyone shares the results of collective labor; in practice though, individuals with greater power demand a larger share at the expense of the "working class" this creates the same inequality as capitalism without the intrinsic reward for personal effort.

Anyways, see you on the street when the time comes. I will be the one shattering your skull with a pipe.

>tfw no mindblowing sex with a communist waifu
>tfw you will never come home to your apartment after a hard days work in the factory with your communist wife to greet you and serve you a nice homecooked communist dinner afterwards you have amazing orgasmic communist sex in the bedroom next to a portrait of Stalin knocking her up increasing the white birthrates all the while the Soviet Anthem is playing and the news is talking about how in America they're sending more money to Israel while the middle class is shrinking, being overrun by non-Whites, and porky is hoarding all the money

nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

that's a weird way to spell historical fact

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Do you not understand what philosophy is?

>tfw ywn set some neo-commies on fire

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Since there isn't a time that it has worked, we can conclusively say it hasn't.

Lol

>Not one of you is able to come up with a decent argument for why Communism doesn't work without resorting to fallacies.
Desu comrade; no sensible proof that 2+2=5 is false either.

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It has never worked in any country that has tried it . In all human history it has failed . Usually it's citizens have starved to death as food and money runs out .

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>turn your home into a hair salon
>your comrades seize your means of production by confiscating your home

that was a phenominal post, saved

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>Death is a preferable alternative to communism

All leftist ideology is based on the myth of equality. Equality objectively does not exist. Nature's tendency is towards difference, diversification, and specialty. The evidence of this is DNA and the process of speciation. Biology strictly negates the existence of equality. Because equality is completely counter to nature then by extension it is counter to human nature, it is anti-human, as anything that is unnatural must necessarily be. Anything that is anti-human and conter-evolutionary can only lead to extinction and must be considered evil. Because everything that exists in nature was created by God, and because God is goodness, all that exists is good. Anything that does not exist must be considered evil. Because the end goal of communism is full equality between all individuals in society, egalitarianism is synonymous with communism, thus all egalitarians can justly be referred to as communists. Any push for equality of any sort is to force communism. Since equality is a physical impossibility the mythical "real communism", which has never been tried, cannot ever exist and must be considered the ultimate evil.

How the hell can Sup Forums claim that Communism doesn't work when it turned not one, but two retarded countries into superpowers, and created many well-off smaller states, all the while being lolbertarians, who couldn't manage even a hamlet for several weeks?

anything can be justified as capital dipshit

>I refuse to accept the reality that communism always fails!

sage

I cite all of human history

I invite all Commies to take us up on our offer of free helicopter rides. Commies love free stuff, right?