Did nazis create antifa out of oppression? Were antifa once the good guys?

Did nazis create antifa out of oppression? Were antifa once the good guys?

Antifa is directly responsible for creating the Nazis during the Civil War of 1918, they wanted to create a communist govt and hand it over to a soviet as had been done the previous year in Russia.

this, antifa predates naziism. goes back to the 20s if im not mistaken.

Nazis were created out of Jewish opression

After the KPDs milita force was outlawed, they created Antifa. Antifa is basically the communist version of the brown shirts. That why today they are just retards causing riots, breaking public property, and attacking and assaulting anyone who isnt a fellow communist.

the other way around

nazis were the cure to the antifa/commie cancer

they were created in 1932. OPs image is their first meeting. I know the term LARPing gets thrown around a lot, but thats what they are. They are LARPing like its 1930s Germany and that these street fights against fascist (fascist meaning anyone who isnt a communist) needs to be attacked and suppressed because literally Hitler is about to take over.

Why are nazis viewed as authoritaran suppressors then?

Something doesn't add up.

Antifa = JEWS and their useful idiots

>Why are nazis viewed as authoritaran suppressors then?

because it was an authoritarian dictatorship that suppressed people

thanks for the rundown, my history is rusty af. shameful, i know.

That's how Marxism works, divide oppressed and oppressive. That's what the German jewish civil war did (like 1918?)

So antifa were indeed the good guys then.

I dont view them that way. They were seeking to establish their own but different authoritarian regime.

Nazis being authoritarian assholes don't make the communists, who are also authoritarian assholes, good. Incidentally, the logo with the three arrows that some modern antifa carry around is the so-called "antifascist circle" of the Iron Front, the military wing of the social democrat party of that time. The arrows stand for anti-monarchism, anti-communism and anti-fascism.

No, they were working for Rothschind (Satanic Jews from Hell)

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this. its really weird why they do this.

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They really stemmed out of (though not founded during) the Spanish Civil War, and was an amalgamation of Socialists, Liberals, Communists, and Anarchists fighting Franco. Notable fascist fighters included George Orwell and Ernest Hemingway, who flew in to fight alongside the leftists in spain.

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Antifa existed before nazis. Violent left is what created nazis in the first place. Right-wingers started to protect themselves, learned that commie scum are afraid of it, and kept pushing till they won.

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who won? they were crushed by communists

>Violent left is what created nazis in the first place
You mean the massive economic crisis in Germany? Don't be stupid.

Nah, Antifa kept on poking the hornets nest until it turned into a pack of bears.

Only the jewish bankers won WW2. We all lost

they killed the movement in Germany. It took the world to stop Hitler and the Axis.

Well said. The whole "nazis weren't being punched and that's why WW2 happened" thing is incredible historical ignorance. Nazis were being attacked by Rotfront fighters from the beginning, which led to the creation of the SA to protect speeches.

started by the world bank and the jews.

Who won? Capitalism did.
Commies got crushed under their own weight, being lazy overweight fucks.

Your philosophy should never be "anti" something, thats slave morality.

The world bank was formed in 1944 you sperg

Russia is a shithole and the economy will only go worse, you need another socialist revolution

Antikom!

No, we most certainly don't need another 100 million russkies killed by sick fucks like you.

The do say history repeats

100 million? wtf, do you realize that that's like saying that Stalin killed more than half the population.... at least don't say such silly numbers.

The real reason the nazis won, and this applies to current day antifa and their autistm, is the idea of "social fascism"

This was an idea that communist came up with in the late 20s that basically said any form of government that isnt communist, is actually fascist and must be opposed and destroyed. Ernst Thallman, the leader of the German Communist Party, and by extension, leader of Antifa, fully believed in this idea. This meant the communist in germany wouldnt ally themselves with ANYONE else to oppose nazis, even the social democrats because they to were FASCIST!

Leon Trotsky saw this and knew this was going to result in nazis winning, so he told Thalmann to just chill out and work with the social democrats to oppose Hitler. And he even made it clear that this was just a temporary measure and that after Hitler was defeated, it was time to go after and attack the social democrats. Trotsky believed in social fascism to, but just thought about suspending it for a while. Thallman responded by calling Trotsky a fascist traitor to the cause of communism and ignored his advice.

This is why Antifa attacks everyone that isnt them for being "fascist"

Not even remotely - they wanted to replace the Nazis with communism. That's the thing - they're not fighting for democracy, capitalism or freedom, they're fighting for THEIR flavor of oppression and fascism.
The hilarious part, to me, is ifyou take any of the US "Antifa", who are frauds anyway, and stuck them in a society run by the systems of government they want? They'd be the first to lose their minds at how repressed and limited they are, and how it sucks, because the only thing socialism and communism has brought the world is misery and poverty for the very people it claims to save.
They are not "good guys", they're fanatical fascists of a different color, and worse than the people they're claiming to fight. They're the ones suppressing speech, they're the ones who are violent, they're the ones pulling statues down, and they'll be the ones burning books, when that shit starts. (It's coming, just watch)
The US "Antifa" has little to do with the real Antifa, anyway. Our version are just angry children from middle class homes who were never taught to handle their emotions, and they think throwing tantrums is how to get things done.

Overall, an argument could be made that the violent left created a lot of the social unrest in that era - after the Russian Revolution, they had a momentum towards taking over other countries - one of the only good things to come from the Third Reich was them curbstomping the communists.
Communism, like Islam, has never been about creating good, it just brings misery and suffering with it.

Wasn't a topic I was familiar with yet, thank you, user.

I'd still take it over capitalism any day of the week

Then you're a fool.

yeah, I've been diving deep into it. They actually thought the "social fascist" where in a way worst than the actual fascist. Their main target was the social democrats as the biggest evil and the mostly ignored Hitler in the international communist meetings in moscow. this was all just them being butthurt and confused at the fact that Mussolini took over Italy when they KNEW Italy, along with the rest of europe, was going to become communist.

what the fuck is that comic even saying

> truth doesn't matter, only real truth does

one thing Im still not sure about is why communist love to cuck out to radical islam though. I think its nothing more than a fulfilment of their self loathing anti-western ideals