Can't be fucked getting news have docos instead
NZ/pol/ Docos
Muldoon - The Grim Face of Power
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The New Zealand Wars
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The Hollowmen(05 Election)
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Someone Else's Country
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In a land Of Plenty
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Revolution
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We don't deserve a thread, kiwiposters are unironic socialists for the soul purpose of funding their alcoholism and drug addictions.
Literally fuck off back to /r/nz and do not come back.
How did the green's support crater like that? Is a NZ First + National government the most likely now?
>How did the green's support crater like that?
The Leader had benefit fraud and electoral fraud and had to resign
>Is a NZ First + National government the most likely now?
no Winston will choose national or labour depending on how many of his policies they will give him
Yeah it's disappointing to see how many weedvoters there are even here of all places.
5 weeks tonight. At about this time we will all be sat in front of the TV watching the first results.
I have a confession guys. I'm considering switching from NZF to the Nats. Its just with the greens unlikely to make 5% Winnie will probably coerce Jacinda into a partnership which sees him taking the lead. He will likely be dep PM again but at what cost? I don't want to see an sjw govt back in. I remember the shit Helengrad put us through.
Anyone able to convince me NZF are still worth two ticks????
>Anyone able to convince me NZF are still worth two ticks????
when have they ever been worth voting for with your electorate vote
My thoughts really, I think out of all the policy he's covered this election, immigration reform has been on his backburner. It's clearly not his main issue anymore and out of everything that a LAB/NZF coalition would kill, it would be that. I don't give a fuck about north island rail it needs to stay dead.
NZF have a history of propping up Labour and going leftist if/when they see an opening to do so.
But passenger rail from Auckland to Hamilton would be nice.
are chinks human?
they have been with the nats once and lab once so its not really much of a history
More public transport would indeed be nice, if there was enough support to warrant it. But they're claiming that if they funnel money into rail it'll help with growth in the middle north island and it quite clearly won't.
One of the co leaders admitted ripping off the state 20 years ago. But she said it was OK because as a proud maori woman she had every entitlement to taking that money otherwise her kid would starve.
That got peoples backs up, and she was questioned in the media. Her response was to double down saying any questioning of her was racism and institutionalize hatred of the poor.
No one bought it and media dug deeper. They discovered she was living with her mother when claiming she had no family support. Then it seemed she was possibly living with her partner, the father of her kid, when she said he wasn't on the scene. She was also registered to vote at his address, because she wanted to support a friend who was running in that electorate. Even though she was meant to be living at another address and was running for Parliament there. When asked why was she did that instead of just voting for herself she said nothing other than she was being targeted.
At the same time a couple of green MPs quit saying she was damaging the brand. She effectively told them to fuck themselves, she's the boss of the party and they arent worth shit.
It was just messy, it was obvious she was lying but wouldnt admit to anything. no one in public except sjws bought any of this shit. And the party literally fell out of contention overnight.
They may claw back up over 5% and bring a couple MPs in. But its not looking good for them. Their other co leader looks pissed and beta AF now. Its obvious he doesn't want to do this shit anymore and seems genuinely embarrassed trying to talk up his side.
I live in one of the safest blue seats in the country. National have won it for the 8 or 9 elections. I like to give my electorate vote to a candidate for a meme party that never has a chance of winning. Just to make them feel a bit better.
I'm worried he will throw any policy out the window just to get in a good position. And that goes for immigration as well.
I don't get public transport. Maybe its an Auckland and wellington thing. I would never catch a bus or train, I hate being at the mercy of someone else just to get around. Also the general public are fuckwits, I don't want to share my personal space with literal fuckwits retards or Tongan teen thugs. And fucked if I'm going to pay $5 for the privelege to be in their company.
And look at every bus exchange or rail station around the world. Full of druggies and homeless. The media and lefties tell you public transport is great, but no there's nothing good about it IMO. And roads will always be clogged, an extra 50 busses a day or train line won't do fuck.
Train access across the country is somewhat different to improved bus services though. Especially given our tourism driven economy, not everyone can be expected to fly from major centre to major centre.
I want good rail for freight movement yes. As our highways are Bhutan tier, especially when you start hitting altitude, the less trucks on them the better. A high speed train between Aucks, the Tron and BoP will be a white elephant. It won't have enough patronage, and will likely see the regional cities housing cists grow higher as some move out there and consider commuting to Auckland.
The trains aren't going in for freighting though, NZF is claiming that a rail network will help undo the middle north island decline by bringing industry back, which is a pipe dream.
Yeah not gonna happen. Same as raising minimum wage to $20. Say goodbye to even more check out chicks and Mcdonalds workers if that happens. They're already losing their job to automation. What's minimum wage anyway? About $16 isn't it?
$15.75
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The NZF twenty buck min wage is going to rape the economy. Two ticks blue
Yeah if he goes with Labour they'll love that shit and push it. I'm surprised people still fall for the insanely high minimum wage bullshit.
I think its Seattle that has recently enforced it, and employees are being laid off because their bosses can't afford to keep them.
>immigration reform has been on his backburner.
Of course. Winston First has always been the party of the old. Old people don't like immigrants because they look and speak funny. But what they really hate is any uncertainty over their retirement gibs. So when push comes to shove in coalition negotiations Winnie will protect NZ Super from even a modest increase in the entitlement age and give away any immigration change. Super gold card anyone?
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Hey mates.
From Duncan Garner, interesting read
I struggle to have sympathy for Turei, who quite frankly always got a free ride from a few fawning fruitcakes in the press who loved calling her "Met".
Turei threw herself out there, she got what all self-serving and ultimately selfish politicians deserve – a feral and feverish examination by the media.
She failed spectacularly. Her story failed to stand up and two normally mild-mannered Greens called Ken and Dave were told to shelve their principles under the section, "silence".
Good on them that they didn't become blind sycophants like the others. Principles matter – please add intolerance to the Greens' list of work-ons.
Yes, Turei's welfare fraud admission was brave and risky but two things matter: a decent strategy and telling the whole truth.
From the real chance of a role in victory, the Greens might all be heading back to the welfare queue. Oh the irony.
Can you believe the Greens may actually lose all their MPs at the election? It's entirely possible based on the latest polling. Talk about an environmental disaster, the planet needs a powerful Green lobby present in Parliament.
But you can't blame Turei entirely. There's the Jacinda effect too and more on that shortly.
But the Greens had blinkers on. A small but rowdy bunch of Turei's supporters on the social media platform Twitter backed her with a mix of anger and racism directed at the cheeky privileged "whities" who, god forbid, dared to have a view.
Stupidly, the Greens mistook the Twitter action as reflecting wider voter support. Be that a lesson for all the players in the coming week.
A Twitter hero does not mean you are either popular or doing the right thing. The biggest political losers are the ones who take the greatest fall. That's Turei this past term. No debate needed.
It's an insult to the New Zealander of Year Awards that she's been nominated. She's no hero.
And the winner of the past three years is obvious. Jacinda Ardern goes from bit-player list MP, to now being our next prime minister.
How good is she? I asked former prime minister John Key that question on The AM Show this week. He said the camera loves her. He rates her. It was high praise.
Her handling of the Aussie mini-scandal was Helen Clark-like, no surprise given Clark's former spin mastermind, Mike Munro, is now on Ardern's staff.
Even National Party diehard Michelle "Bleed Blue" Boag was effusive in her praise, likening Ardern and her rise to another former PM: David Lange.
But surely Arden's opponents in the blue corner will try to now expose her failings over the campaign. They must find them first.
So the narrative has been written. The "Rock" Bill English, versus the emerging "Rock star", Ardern.
Is it time to risk it all? Is Ardern too inexperienced? Not from what I've seen.
Crucially, Labour understands personality won't win it on its own.
So stand by, I expect Labour to throw cash at the students this week. Oink oink – pork barrel politics at its finest.
The battle has hit the streets – two main street gangs and the same old stragglers, riff-raff and motley crew.
Who are you going to choose to lead the class of 2017? I sense National is in trouble.
The Greens deserve to die. They screwed themselves over by positioning themselves to the left of Labour. As if National could never do anything for the environment when DOC's budget is $400 million.
There is potential for a centrist Green party. There are a bunch of them in Europe. Centrist voters will be up for grabs in 2020. Winston will retire (he'll be 75) and everyone will have remembered what a cluster-fuck it is whenever his party is in government. Someone should set-up a new Green party without the Commies and welfare queens. I think it would do well.
I don't think the greens are necessary. 20 years ago maybe they were relevant. But every party has environmental policy now, sometimes even better and far reaching than the greens. The Outdoors party or TOP for instance.
I'm really hoping to see them out of parliament. It will be a great day if that happens. The smug cunts deserve to be taken down, and it'll be a great 'fuck you' to the faggot media graduates who shill for them. So out of touch with regular Kiwis.
Never rated garner but lately he seems to be making sense.
Dont see anything in ardern in looks, personality, charisma or achievements.
Attractive by nz politician standards and people being sick of national is whats driving it i assume.
Yeah Garner used to shit me. But I'm seeing some merit in his commentary. I never watch his show though. Breakfast TV makes me lose the will to live. Tv1 especially.
Seemed like a wally with what you would read about him off camera and his white, overcompensating allegedly maori wife didnt sit well with me either.
If you have to watch something threes preferable.
fat fucking idiots
FUCK OFF CUNT!!!!
Mark Richardson is worth watching. He seems like a poltard. Happy to call out sjw bullshit. Gives me hope man. Especially when you compare him to the turbofaggots on tv1. Saw the three of then talking about the new iphones and a lady gaga tweet. You can fuck right off with that shit.
>I don't get public transport.
Clearly you have never lived in a city with top notch public transport. I've lived in both NYC and Toronto and I would fucking kill to be able to get around like I used to in those cities. Auckland is 2+ hours gridlock morning and afternoon.
Hes got his north shore, nat voting, crusty old man gimmick thats somehow controversial even though hes just normal. Shows how much has changed.
Cant pick whos worse on one. Proly tame. Needs punching.
Garner shills for labour and rapefugees. That way we get more social problems for him to bitch and moan about
Cities are shit. We didnt even need them till the chongs came over.
What is to be done about this?
>can only immigrate if they invest a million dollars into NZ businesses
I dunno, it's better than what we normally get.
>the planet needs a powerful Green lobby present in Parliament.
What a cuck.
Does this mean im gonna get payed 90k a year for relief milking? We all know chinamen cant pull tits.
No more other countries dont allow it. Infuriating.
I am voting national this election because fuck you winston I'm not paying for free university education.
If jaquanda wins this election on the basis of 'free shit' and 'woman stronk' then I'm going rural before the cities get any worse.
Enjoy continued mass immigration then.
>I think out of all the policy he's covered this election, immigration reform has been on his backburner. It's clearly not his main issue anymore
It's a pity as that's really the main issue for me. It's all down to being in Auckland, though. Obviously other parts of the country are affordable, but I don't want to have to uproot my whole life and move just because our government likes bringing in torrents of people to make economic indicators look good.
I wonder if he just put that line in there to shut bitches up
That's gonna happen anyway. I'd prefer Nats selling our arses to China than Labour letting Syrians and Eritreans come here to rape our arses
Theyll get in as refugees regardless but theres a chance hel keep his promises.
Eh I reckon Winstons the least worse, sure it will be more of the same old boomer "not following through on promises" but atleast its only going to get worse slowly instead of all at once.
I figure that whether it's National or Labour that end up as the government, if they have to rely on NZF for a majority, at least there's a chance that they'll be reined in from their excesses. Might not end up that way, but it's a better chance than if either party just get to do what they like.
I can't see Winnie working with Jacinda. I doubt he has any respect for her and thinks she's a libtard fool. If he went into coalition with her I doubt it would last
The best option is still an armed take over of the beehive and mass genocide of all chinks and darkies.
Is Hone /our guy/?
Could get with this if it were expanded.
How do we get rid of National?
A worthwhile right of centre party.
Get rid of chink money
Might solve the Labour problem too, seeing as they feed from the same teats.
Did these guys COCONUT qt Chloe?
Fuck me, imagine what those fellas smell like. Im guessing a mix of k-fry and dick sweat.
This right here
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>k-fry and dick sweat
lel we should restart start dawn raids