OUR CHURCH: Tradition or Death

>Conversions gradually transforming Orthodox Christianity
>More than 70 percent of the roughly 75,000 Antiochian Orthodox Christians in the United States are converts. The Orthodox Church in America, with roots in Moscow and about 85,000 adherents, reports a 50 percent figure. In Greek Orthodox Christianity, by far the largest branch in the United States with almost 480,000 members, it's about 25 percent.
>"We have these ethnic titles in our names, but they refer to where our hierarchies reside," Gilbert says. "None of these [jurisdictions] believes the church is for Greeks or Russians or Serbs. It's a church for humans."
>The strength of Orthodox Christianity— also known as Eastern Christianity, Eastern Orthodoxy or Greek Orthodoxy — stems from the conviction that its traditions are the same as those practiced by Jesus' original followers, the 12 apostles, and the theologians who codified those practices in their writings over the first few centuries after his death.
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Jesus h. Cuck

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t. heathen

These ethnic names aren't attractive, nobody will want to hear church in greek.

>Orthodox Christianity

btfo pagan faggot

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"Orthodoxy and non" lection by Russian orthodox theologist:

youtube.com/watch?v=QH4JXOSp9Sk

Convert heavy parishes do their services in English

Christianity strikes again! Cucking the White race since 0 A.D.

fucking zealots

By putting an end to homosexuality and degeneracy?

You think atheism or RPG religions can do that today?

I sat in on one before, it was like a catholic service but in a different language, they read a few bible verses in english though, not the 30min sermon i'm used to.

Some people in the Alt-Right think Orthodox Christianity is un cucked, pro white version of Christianity. But this is simply not the case.

Christianity literally started as a sect of Jews. The first Christians were all Jews. The Christian god is Yahweh. Abraham was a Jew. The only name jewier than Abraham is Yahweh.

All types of Christianity are inherently multi racial unlike Germanic Paganism which has racial element to it.

This is the Orthodox Church's statement on Matthew Heimbach who considers himself to be a Christian and a white nationalist.

Statement Regarding Matthew Heimbach: On Saturday, April 12, 2014, I received Matthew Heimbach into the Orthodox communion through the sacrament of Chrismation. I did not understand at that time that he held nationalistic, segregationist views. Immediately upon learning of the scope and development of Matthew's views, I responded to his decisions quickly and decisively, meeting with him in person and by phone on multiple occasions, and conferring with our bishop.

Typically pastoral issues are best handled confidentially between priest and penitent in order to protect the privacy of those coming for counsel.

"If, however, a person makes inflammatory public statements in the name of the Orthodox Faith, as in the present case of Matthew Heinbach, a public statement is most certainly warranted."

Though Matthew has made progress in coming to understand the teachings of Christ, he has not formally renounced his views promoting a separationist ideology.

"Orthodoxy rejects the teaching that churches or countries should be divided along racial lines. For, “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus' (Gal. 3:28). And again, ‘They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one Shepherd" (Jn. 10:16)."

>By putting an end to homosexuality and degeneracy?

It can be done without jewish cults.

>By putting an end to homosexuality and degeneracy?
Christianity is the forerunner of multiculturalism and race mixing. Are you out of your mind christ cuck?

Orthodox priests and other religious Christians led the Civil rights movement. Helping the negro man [black christians /children of god!] get the same rights as white men.

Christianity and civil rights, the reason why race mixing is legal.

"Orthodox-Christian" wedding. Because race mixing is biblical.

Christianity teaches that a Black Christian is exactly as good as white Christian and a white infidel is subhuman.

The left is the most Christian whether they admit it or not.

So you embrace cultural marxist Atheism and claim you arent a commie leftist jew? Fascinating

Pic: Orthodox missionaries helping their fellow Orthodox Niglets to become future breeders of White Christian women who are more likely to mudshark with Negro Christians than White Atheists /Pagans.

Then there is also Jesus stuff which is just another Jew bullshit.

>t. dutch homo fedoratipper

How about instead of worrying about some cathocucks and protestant dipshits who are gonna burn in hell for their sacrilege and their twisted versions of Christianity and instead focus on the fact that the men in your country are the most spineless effeminate faggots among European men, only rivaled by Swedes. And the fact that you are losing all of your women to bixnoods?

No joke, I know three dudes with whom I studied together in a veterinary medicine faculty from Netherlands, one of them is married to an asian woman, the second one is dating one and the third one is a virgin beta.
Coincidence? Not really.

Pls fix your country b4 u complain about who is the "degenerate" ;)

Also, I'm pretty sure the only reason you are this upset about race-mixing and christian missionaries helping blacks is cause you have realized your country is cucked beyond recognition by them lmao

stay mad

>"None of these [jurisdictions] believes the church is for Greeks or Russians or Serbs. It's a church for humans."

It's funny how they have to emphasise that point.

Let's face it. Despite styling itself as the one true way to salvation for all humans, the Orthodox Church is still drawn along ethnic lines. You could convert to Orthodoxy. They will accept you. But you will always be seen as an outsider.

There is only one truly "catholic" Church. And, surprise, it's the Catholic Church. If you want to take your salvation seriously, then the only way you can ever find peace is through the Catholic Church. Like the Orthodox Church, it is Apostolic and is closest to the religion of the Early Christians, but it is more welcoming, more catholic and more alive than any other denomination on earth.

Come home. You know in your heart this is right.

Also, Orthodoxy is the biggest growing religion in Ethiopia.

So many fellow nigger Christians ready to breed with white Christian women in the name of ((( Jesus ))) . Now think about that for a moment.

this
shut up bagan

>"Orthodoxy rejects the teaching that churches or countries should be divided along racial lines."
yeah because Otyhofoxy accepts NATIONAL LINES AND NATIONAL AUTOCEPHALOUS Churches , ha take that pomfrit.

t. achmet homosexual butthurt can't into divine glory.

Wait, do they actually do that? I can read ancient Greek. You're telling me Eastern Orthodoxy actually SPEAKS it during their services?

Do they have Greek-speaking ones in the US?
I'd go.

BOTTOM LINE:
"Christianity is the forerunner of multiculturalism and race mixing." It always was but it was sustainable because Pagan Europeans were pretty racist back then.

Look at the world today. Paganism has been dead for 1000 years. 1000 years of "social progress" for jews, arabs and Christians.

trash catholics it'n not the church of God, who want to send his kids to a fiddle biureaucracy with lots dosh and now God.

I believe it is Koine Greek and you can find an English liturgy

Pagans are satanic trash like cucktholics . OUT.

>MUH FEDORA

Daily reminder that people pushing Christianity in pro white movements are just negro christians.

They are doing it because some white nationalists tolerate Christianity and Christianity is one of the things that makes race mixing possible.

These niggers don't want racist Atheists and Pagans in their way.

We don't need a Christian nation, we already have one and it's called Brazil. It's like 97% Christian and it's a violent mixed race shit hole.

>people still speak Hellenistic Greek aloud

OH YES

I WANT THIS SO BAD

Atheism is not only older than (((Christianity))), it is truly European. The first atheist was an ancient Greek man named Diagoras of Melos:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism

Yes!! Atheists and Pagans forever united against christ-cucks, Jews and mudslimes.

Deus Vult!!

wrong, there is no hope outside Orthodoxt , you wuldnt know cause you never tried it , where there's lack of light darkness creeps in

pagans and atheists are literally niggers themselves
>Is Brasil Orthodox?

forget it, just trust me , Orthodoxy or death.

How will he know if someone is gay... Unless he means spit on gays in a different context

Orthodox Christianity is not based/better than any other Christian denominations. In fact it's cucked af (pic related).

There is nothing such as un-cucked Christianity since Christianity literally started as a sect of Jews for the goyim to follow."

It's because the orthodox church quietly does good works. I'm not even religious but I give to the iocc charity

most likely neighbours in Amsterdam?

your cucked because you are an imbecile, your priests dont convert nigglets or fire bazookas
>BTFO

look at you bunch of retards fighting among yourselves.

there's no hope.

>Pro White (Pagan) Family Values
>Christianity
Pick one.
youtu.be/VjEqoltgSQE

>muh savior of white race reeeeee

kys cuck

>Pagan cucks
>pro white

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

And that is exactly what christendom was invented for. Infighting and discussion of interpretation of scripture. Here we stand at the knifes edge and retards are arguing if we should stick with the ones who thought it should be this word in scripture or if we should go with the guys that thinks its the other word instead.

Race mixers and homos aren't even Pagan. Most of them are christian or unreligious...

whatever the correctness of orthodox christology and anthropology they have no doctrine of justification and are totally idolatrous.

Praise Cheezus!

here let me help you: radioaryan.com/search/label/The Orthodox Nationalist?max-results=4

a false statement by a false christian (cuctholic) not only they hace doctrine, but the CORRECT one, not some BS for the benefit of the 'church'

these people aren't Orthodox , so ? you still don't understand what the told you 'Christians" are and what is ORTHODOXY

>Posts a link to immature Christian propaganda site. No thanks.

t. seraphim rose

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The only reason I would ever go to my local Serbian orthodox church is because it's a tradition. even I, the godless heretic still light up candles in the memory of my grandparents and pray for the wellbeing of the living. I enjoy biblical depictions on walls and the general atmosphere of the orthodox temples

not false at all. without image worship there is no orthodoxy. that is what the 7th council teaches. that is what is in the synodikon of orthodoxy. EO is inherently idolatrous and they think those images are actually Christ. not just a depiction.

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uh wrong. that one guy i linked to is orthodox. not everyone there is. is just a radio station. immature?? then listen to the orthodox nationalist. you will earn something about history. parciaualry slavic and russian history. the man is very learned.

fuck hitler, long live Jesus Christ
>t. seraphim rose
t. St John Chrysostom

maybe it's time you get some indeed
jews HATE Christ and for good reason, thry are a satanic priesthood class

yeah sure ohk. as if Europe was united b4 christianly.

what are the gothic invasions of Rome??

is this matt johnson? jay dyer? i know they come here anyway.

Been thinking about converting to orthodox or tradcatholic for a while. Do they teach godly gender roles? Women never work, men are heads of the family etc.

Can someone give me a brief rundown on the main differences between eastern orthodoxy and catholocism?

filioque, absolute simplicity, thats really it. no energy/ essence distinction. literally an unknowable god in catholcisim.

simply false, you can't hope to win by spouting garbage and praying you're talking to a dupe , an idol is not an icon, it's a statue
>who has statues in them church ?
>hm the cuctholics broke 'tough shall not worship statues' ON PURPOSE

your bottom.jpg

yes man and woman and no gays, the works, but dont get burned by catholics, you will have your faith only in that ungodly hellhole

>american orthodoxy
lmao fuck off
i can already put my left nut on the chopping block that its some sort of plastic cancer, just like everything else about unidos estados

where are our religious terrorists when we need them? we really need to put a stop to this orthodox defamation by the fucking americans, who bombed or helped bombing of 1000 years old orthodox monasteries at kosovo

AMERICANS BURNED DOWN 1000 YEARS OLD ORTHODOX TEMPLES AND MONASTERIES

abramic monotheism is A destuctive believe that
Spreads hate & intollerance towards other beliefs
Like tribal,polytheism,panthiesm.Atheism ect
They even fight with each other for theres to be
top ruling religion with groups like wahabbism zionism evangelism ect
That they use to push there goals tru war,propaganda,
brainwashin youth's,rewritting history,genoside,ect
wile condemning there actions because "not all of us"
But secretly funding & supporting them.
I have Alott more resons

non survium

youtube.com/watch?v=XUz-pTTC9DA

timey they join the fold brother and get gun priests for real

>White nationalist
>Christian Nationalist
Pick one, because Christianity actually unites everyone who is Christian in nother words it is pro race mixing and thus devides white people. It makes us hard to fight our ((( real enemies ))).

Never forget that the real Christianity teaches that a Black Christian is exactly as good as white Christian and a white infidel is subhuman.

Racism against fellow Christians of different races is strictly forbidden by the ((( lord ))).

Christianity has been telling the white man everyone is equal in the eyes of the god, the left is the most Christian whether they admit it or not. White Nationalism is exactly the opposite of Christian Globalism.

>deus vult flag
You have 0 racial pride or racial loyalty. You will only give credit to whites who follow your jewish god. You are a Christian nationalist, not a white nationalist.

You and all the other christians can go move to Israel, your (((holy land))) and be happy worshiping yahweh. Fair warning, most christians now are spics and niggers, you can tell them all about how christianity is quintessentially white European.

Pic related : the radio Aryan guy.

>be cucked christian
>conquers the world

>stop being cucked christian
>be conquered

it gives current to your mental pipelines

yes

1st century and 21st century orthodox christianity is identical
doors are facing the same way
priests are speaking the same language
teachings of christ are the same
churches look the same

pedolics are just a family experience, no real anything
their "religion" revolves around tax collecting (christ never said anything about this) and in the past also mind control for authorities (confession, christ never mentioned this anywhere), gestapo (inquisition, secret police, burning your enemies alive, christ never mentioned this), catholicism is basically 90% politics, 9% about money, and something like 1% about teachings of christ

basically yall are heretics and should burn in hell for all eternity for blaspheming

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catholics arent christians
name one teaching of christ they practice
pro tip: you cant

WoW! You are a thruuuuu Christian. Congrats!

Never forget that the real Christianity teaches that a Black Christian is exactly as good as white Christian and a white infidel is subhuman.

it also teaches that every country gets its church, expell niggers from Holland NAO and presto Dutch Orthodox Church all white .

become straight aga

>you are a subhuman indeed and so is every white muslim

again , these pics you show depict what in Orthodoxy call HERETICS, theybarent Orthodox or Christian at all and you seem too stuck in your baloney to understand that


die with your demons

all a bunch of lies, you wouldnt have arguments otherwise
pagan = jew= muslim =
a literal nigger

>die with your demons
Hahahahaha!!!

I can stone a Christian as easily as Jew.

Wait, they are the same!

Helicopter ride is waiting for you Christfag.

>quoting non-christians somehow proves christians are wrong
>diversity is our strength
>westerners arent retarded

too much internet for me, im out

every religion that does not warn against the active corrupting satanic force is a part of its playbook

the only faggot in here is you and you know it

Buh-bye!

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>lets retard ourselves into no-tech stone age niggerdom, that will save us
get wiped out by germs or steroid impact, varg larper
if we did what varg wanted us to do, china or some other artillery wielding nation would colonize us the same way redcoats colonized other primitive places

You are confused. You think that the Church must have an administrative centre and a visible monarch for it to be considered 'one' church. You need your pope and your Vatican functionaries because it gives you psychological comfort. The fact that the present administrative structure of the Orthodox Church is drawn along administrative lines does not mean that it is not 'Catholic'. No one can be excluded from the sacraments because of one's ethnicity. This is a heresy called Philitism. You Catholics keep playing all these strawman arguments in your head, over and over, because Orthodoxy is so much more pure, holy and correct than the Roman Catholic Church. We can destroy all your apologetics. Stop empowering socialist imbeciles and gay priests. Get your act together and join the Orthodox Church.

Liberal Atheism has been around for a long time in the Satanic nation of Holland. And looks at its fruits.

Now this.
>No civilization before Christianity, white people were barbarians and sheeit.
Another (((christian))) lie.

Greek and Roman civilization were both Pagan and people invented many things. Compare that to your benzantine empire, it was not even the height of Greek civilization. It was multi racial just like any other (((christian civilization))). It did great harm to European people.

You can say Christianity should be credited for white man's accomplishments, but that just shows how anti-white you are if you feel the need to credit a Jewish religion for that.

Don't go Trad Catholic. Go Orthodox. Traditionalist Catholicism is a potemkin village to keep sane people in the Catholic Church donating their money to Communists and faggots in the Vatican.

Of course a church that is 50% converts in America is going to be cucked. America is the source of this cultural cancer, not the church itself.

there are more traditional Catholics than there are liberal Catholics. but the majority are just moderates.

>bulwark against Islam
>ignited the renessaiance

You wouldn't even know about Graeco-Roman paganism if it wasn't for the Byzantines.

this. Orthodoxy hasn't been exposed to the cancer yet and I'm not so sure they have a strong enough unity amongst the various churches to resist it. I mean they have already embraced divorce and contraception so it's not much of a leap to accept more.

>Drinking semen like Wodan will save the white race.
Autism.

You think you know Holland better than me christ fuck?

My church has settled 75 k immigrants, all from Africa or the ME. They say It is my religious duty to bring as many people as possible in order to fulfill the amendments of (((Jesus)))

Damn! I fucking hate Christians.

I've been a Trad Catholic for 4 years and I'm now a Greek Orthodox Christian. Traditionalist Catholicism is a distraction to keep people, who have the curiosity and intelligence to learn about the contradictions and Modernist heresies present in the Post-Vatican II Catholic Church, within the Roman communion. Trad Catholics all have their pet theory about how a Pope Francis is possible while Roman Catholicism still remains the triumphant Church described in Matthew 16. All of these theories are flawed. The only truly consistent trads are the Sedevacantists, but even they are kind of kooky. The awful things about FSSP/SSPX type trads is that they cling to their own theories about proper Papal Infallibility - these endless lawyer's arguments about how we can disregard everything the last 5 popes have ever said or written - which keeps from doing anything to actually clean up the Catholic Church. These trad apologetics about the true nature of Papal Infallibility all decay into an empty tautology of "the Pope is Infallible when what he says agrees with the Church's historical dogmatic teachings", which just means, "the Pope is right when he's right". But this is stupid because historically popes have always been understood by Catholics to have the authority to put forward new dogmatic definitions and even to unilaterally alter existing ones.

The toxic liberalism of the Netherlands has always made it a paradise for heretics, Jews and smut merchants.

>Corrupt churches espouse lefty viewopints.
>Therefore the whole religion is shit.
I suppose you're a full blown anarchist then given Eeopean governments' attitudes.

Bro its cool that Archbishop Iakovos marched with Rev. MLK Jr. from Selma but what has the Greek church done since then?

>tradcatholic
Google Most Holy Family Monastery

I'm just writing all of this down because I don't want you all to waste your time clinging to Trad Catholic apologetics which will prevent you from becoming Orthodox.