Our image is important. If you wish to save the white race, you got to drop Hitler. No normies are going side with you...

Our image is important. If you wish to save the white race, you got to drop Hitler. No normies are going side with you , and of course MSM will further demonize you.

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but hes the only one who said he wanted me to shine. i dont want him to go

You alt-cucks are the worst.

You let the enemy dictate your actions and speech.

Reminder that Hitler was not a white nationalist, and arguably did more damage to the white race that any single person in history.

>The holocaust happened and hitler started the war.
>my school told me so!

If they're waving swastikas, chances are it's feds or otherwise false flagers giving media ammo.

Fuck off, kike.

>Did more damage
That would be Stalin m8

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA PINCHE bolillos.... y'all niggas are going into hiding. Almost like a Muslim and taqqiya. BTFO

>they're feds even though I have no evidence to prove it
>If it wasn't for the swatika, the media would treat us fairly and tell the truth about us.

I don't really care for whites
i just really want to kill niggers and jews

hi /leftypol/

Hitler and Nazi LARPers are objective retarded and hurting the cause tho.

>the Holocaust never happened and Hitler didn't start the war
>surely invaded by much weaker Poland which in contrast to Germany is still white
KEK

>Being this obvious

OP you don't understand all we have to do is get people to a 4 hour YouTube video then they'll HAVE to start heiling in public too!

>>surely invaded by much weaker Poland which in contrast to Germany is still white
The Forced War ~ David Hoggan
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Adolf Hitler Explains Reasons for Invading Poland
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Death in Poland: The Fate of the Ethnic Germans
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The Gleiwitz "False Flag" Incident is Pure Fiction
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The Heretics' Hour: The False Story of the Gleiwitz "False Flag" Incident
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Poland and Falsifications of Polish History
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The True Reason Why Germany Invaded Poland
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The Unknown History of the 1939 German-Polish Conflict
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Kek. No one with brain gotta believe that.
So stop this copypaste shit and face the facts.

>Kek. No one with brain gotta believe that.
"oy vey goyim! those facts aren't from a mainstream jewish approved source! therefore no one should believe them!"

>So stop this copypaste shit and face the facts.
"stop posting evidence that proves me wrong! I can't counter factual evidence! I can only dismiss it out of hand!"

These concern trolls are a real nuisance.

Start your own movement, twit.

>evidence
>german sources

Your statement would make the info about millions of children from Syria swimming to the shores of Europe to seek help reliable.

>>german sources
Because we should trust mainstream Jewish sources instead, right?

>Your statement would make the info about millions of children from Syria swimming to the shores of Europe to seek help reliable.
Yes, because Germany is still controlled by National Socialists, right?

If your movement is ethnic nationalist and redpill on the JQ, then you're going to be called Nazis. GLR tried to gain a following by being a 14 without the 88. He got no attention until he put on an armband and started heiling. Good luck getting any attention from people without waving a swastika.

How does NatSoc imagery help us? Especially when we want to bring normies on board with white nationalism. What matters more? The white race or LARPing as Nazis? Do you see white nationalism as impossible without It? Americans are highly individualistic and are already racially aware. They want a white nationalism that still allows for liberty (for whites) and free expression (for whites). They want to celebrate their own culture and heritage. Their own folk. Not that of foreigners.

I can't speak Ydish, so I can't read Jewish sources and even if they were translated I couldn't use them as "reliable" (cause they are not-"Oy vey 30 millions Slavs died nothing happened, 3 million Jews died, it's a tragedy!").

Nope, Germany is controlled by a Chancellor Germans chose themselves just as they did 70+ years ago when they chose Hitler.

Go suck Gavin's cock you fucking faggot.

No 14, no 88.

It's over.

>How does NatSoc imagery help us?
Pic related.

> Especially when we want to bring normies on board with white nationalism.
Why? We want revolutionaries. Not pussies.

>What matters more? The white race or LARPing as Nazis?
What matters more? Voting or saving the White race?

>Do you see white nationalism as impossible without It?
Fuck White Nationalism.

>They want a white nationalism that still allows for liberty (for whites) and free expression (for whites).
In other words, you want porn, racemixing, diversity and multiculturalism you just want Whites to be treated better.


>I can't speak Ydish, so I can't read Jewish sources and even if they were translated I couldn't use them as "reliable" (cause they are not-"Oy vey 30 millions Slavs died nothing happened, 3 million Jews died, it's a tragedy!").
All mainstream sources are Jewish.

>Nope, Germany is controlled by a Chancellor Germans chose themselves just as they did 70+ years ago when they chose Hitler.
And they're exactly the same, right?

>All mainstream sources are Jewish.
Implying I believe any mainstream sources.

>And they're exactly the same, right?
In a directed target to destroy and deorganise European nations and to establish German rule among them -yes, they are.

>Implying I believe any mainstream sources.
Yet you're parroting the mainstream narrative.

>In a directed target to destroy and deorganise European nations and to establish German rule among them -yes, they are.
"National Socialism and Communism are exactly the same thing! Hitler was a Jew!"
And the holocaust happened too, right?

>parroting mainstream narrative
Which even in my country are German-controlled?

Kys you troll.

MUH PR

Fuck you Jew.

Yes, he NEEDS to be dropped.

He is the past, but WE ARE THE FUTURE.

You are the jew in this thread

>Which even in my country are Jew-controlled?
FTFY

>Kys you troll.
Said the anti-White faggot.

>jokes on you, I'm a cuckold on purpose!

So in the end you don't give a fuck about the white race. Just LARPing. I thought so.

FUCK OFF ALREADY SHILLS
YOU ANNOYING PIECES OF SHIT

Fed deradicalization shilling

SAGE
>SAGE
SAGE
>SAGE
SAGE

NEXT RIGHT WING RALLY HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED

FLORIDA HERE WE COME

thread here

Its more evading your enemies traps and bait.

really think about how many people out there are going to really support Nazism. Regardless of there views on the holocaust. It is still an authoritarian socialist ideology.

arguing with Sup Forums nazis have convinced me that the nazis who showed up in CWCvile where not Feds or paid shills.

>Calling me leftypol
>Using the EU flag
Why?

Good luck convincing them to watch it or not doubt anything that they saw.

I honestly don't know who to trust. But denying the holocaust should not make anyone come t the revelation that Hitler was a good guy.
>Sell out eastern europe to the soviets.
>Subsidize local buisnesses giving them an unfair advantage in the local market.
>suspending freedom of speech all in the name of stopping Jewish subversion (They still snuk into your party anyway)
>Removing the banks all in the name of jewish subversion.
>Setting an ideal image of a citizen that is law.

>Do you see white nationalism as impossible without It?
kind of, it destroys your own movement.
>Americans are highly individualistic and are already racially aware.
So you want to force them into a collective ideology.
>They want a white nationalism that still allows for liberty (for whites) and free expression (for whites).
And even in Nazi Germany you still had big restrictions on what you could say (cant criticize the government and have to publish everything in the German language).
>They want to celebrate their own culture and heritage.
Oh boy I can't wait to go larp as barbaric pegans all day. I'll go give Varg a howl.

Your no better than Antifa if these are your justifications.

Exactly.

Im white.

Damage control.

This is at least the 20th thread I've seen shilling this DE-radicalization bullshit.

>SAGE
SAGE
>SAGE
SAGE
>SAGE

>anti-White faggot
Sorry to tell you, but I like girls. I am also considered to be a white race, and you are not able to confuse me even with Europeans like Italians, Greek, Serbs or Spaniards. Germans aren't white. Not anymore. And I am white myself just as 99% of my nation your nation tried to erase from cards of history. So again, back to your hole. Kraut troll.

>our image

sage.

Okay. Im not shills, I support ethnic nationalism, but nazism.

How is this hard for you to understand

>"hey let's sneak and pretend to not be Nazis but we're actually Nazis."
>How about just being upfront and honest about our worldview?
>"WTF YOU WANT TO LARP?"

The mental gymnastics is off the charts.

Remember to sage and mock all PRfags and DE-radicalization shills.

>deradicalization
Nah, I feel more radicalized than ever. I just no longer cuck myself to foreign ideologies and imagery. We need to make the American flag a hate symbol to the non-whites and the left. Before WW2, America was infamous for being one of the most racist and anti-Semitic societies on the globe. Hell, the National Socialists took a lot of inspiration from our tactics and stuff like our eugenics. The Nazi flag and symbolism holds us back by giving the kikes an easy target. Let's make the kikes attack what they can't be excused for attacking. Make them truly expose themselves to the masses.

It took me about a few weeks to become an ethno nationalist, put months later I am still not fully behind National Socialism or the Hitler narrative

Look its okay to not like threads. You don't need to forcefully spam bloat it to 404ing.

If you don't like this just go to the Nasoc general circle jerk.

*Reminder spamming is not allowed

Nat-soc scares off cowards for sure.

But only an idiotic, babblermouthed crackpot would "willingly" wave a nazi flag in public.

Your movement will fail without support. You can't even find support with the alt-right, what makes you think what few cats you attract will make a difference? Tell you what, without massive support, your group of ''loyalists'' are nothing more than a meth-head Wigger cult waving guns and Nazi flags in the middle of nowhere. Because you have neither the brains or the numbers to do anything.

Well, I guess you could go on a shooting spree and kill like 5 niggers to start a "race war", but god knows how many people tried and only made some huge idiot of himself in the big picture.

Worldview and ideology aren't the same thing.

National Socialism and Fascism is a worldview of applying natural law and truth. Adherence to the cosmic order.

The NSDAP or Falange were ideologies born of this worldview.

>Its more evading your enemies traps and bait.
By doing exactly what they want you to do

>It is still an authoritarian socialist ideology.
Which just shows how ignorant you cuckservatives really are.

>I honestly don't know who to trust.

>But denying the holocaust should not make anyone come t the revelation that Hitler was a good guy.
Then you proceed to parrot the official narrative of history.

>Your no better than Antifa if these are your justifications.
"muh horseshoe theory"

why do you need the normies approval you absolute faggot?

I prefer individualism and liberty in a white ethnostate over collectivism and suppression. I think that the capitalist economy is objectively superior to the centrally planned socialist economy. I don't agree with National Socialists on a large portion of their ideology. In fact, the National Socialist movement praised Islam and allowed non-whites to join them as long as they followed the tenants of National Socialism. They even allowed 1/4 Jews, as opposed to the American 1/32 rule for non-whites. Nazis are fucking cucks compared to American cultural traditionalist white nationalists.

It doesn't matter. Nothing's going to happen until the massses are hungry. The current politic side show right now is just because of boredom with the status quo.

"The NSDAP must not be a follower of public opinion, but must become the master of public opinion. It must not be the masses’ servant, but their lord."

-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, V2, Ch6

I am with OP on this one hailing Hitler doesnt mean anything while the 14 words are pricless.
Its about chanting words that mean something otherwise right is no different from the left.

redpanels summed it up pretty well.

Also my thread.
Get yourselves together.

Hey Nazi LARPer fucks. You have 10 minutes to explain why anyone in America should idolize Hitler over the Founding Fathers of America, especially when the white ethnostate made by the founding father lasted way longer than Hitler's ethnostate.

George Lincoln Rockwell
“Revolution is a spectators sport. The majority will sit in the stands and watch the factions fight. At the end they will choose side with the team that is winning. ”

He had a better mustache and didn't own slaves

you retards literally got memed into liking hitler because some dipshits didn't understand the "hitler did nothing wrong" joke

they are not dictating my actions or speech
hitler was a hero in many ways
but he also failed in many ways
i just prefer my heroes who didnt fail
like Marcus Antonio, Aristotle, Titus, Joan of Arc, Columbus, Zhukov, Patton, Trump and many many others
stop worshipping hitler, Im not saying you cant acknowledge him, or his contribution, or question the holocaust, or raise the JQ, just stop pushing hitler

its bad optics man
I have redpilled dozens of people, from family to co workers, starts by introducing them to sites like breitbart, and giving out books by ayn rand ... and yes this are not perfect, and there are many criticisms to objectivism ..... but it starts them down a path, a path of questioning the modern orthodoxy

because in the hitler the hitler was right meme is one of the final redpills, and you nazis keep fucking overdosing people who need to take little nibbles at the "hitler was right" meme

they will get there, but first start with sites like Amren, let them learn to question what they are seeing and hearing from MSM

think of the normies brain as a huge ship heading in one direction, dropping the "hitler was right" meme is like trying to turn it around 180' in a second .... their mind just rejects it, ITS TOO MUCH, ....you need to slow the ship down and gently start turning it

like what? Hitler

>whiteman 70 plus years ago

>believes in what we believe him

>we abandon him even though he's our teacher

hey

RABBI WHATCHA DOIN?

the founders assumed everyone who voted in a democracy would be as well educated on political matters as them
now the only ones who hold any power are the ones in the forth estate

*fourth

>trump
shill

hahaha, if this is some kind of a shill it's a good one. I'm beginning to suspect these hardcore nazi larpers are shills here to keep the alt right at an extreme so that the movement never gets anyways and implodes on itself. I certainly won't stop you shills.

we both know the media wont treat us fairly
but we are not trying to redpill the media are we
we are trying to redpill normies

......SWASTIKAS WONT DO THAT!!!!.....
we have to turn them slowly

Normies have to come over to our side; we don't go over to theirs.

No appeasing normies.

Hitler did nothing wrong, he ended G*rmans for good.

That doesn't answer my question though

>still trying to appeal to lemmings

Remember when Sup Forums and Sup Forums ("politically incorrect") were about being edgy and triggering normalfags?

>Pic related.
and how did that work out for him?

God that quote is pol

hitler wrote about that in mein kampf

You're absolutely right.

The only ideas that stand a chance of ever achieving something are these:

1) White identity, on the same level as Asian identity, black identity, etc. (not superior to those)
2) Conservative nationalism, which places a high emphasis on family values, protecting the border, and treating every citizen (no matter their race) as a citizen

If you advocate anything else then that's up to you, but you're never going to get mass support.

You're not going to achieve anything. Do you want the borders to be closed? No one's going to listen to you if you're walking around in nazi gear.

In modern politics you need to work with other people. It's about dialogue. Sorry, that's just how it is. The only alternative would be overthrowing the government by force, but you simply will never get enough people, with enough guns, to achieve that.

Stop being a fucking idiot. And pay attention to what this guy said:

How fucking stupid do you have to be to unironically make something as universally condemned and beyond stigmatized, like Hitler/Nazism, as a main cog in your movement?

Might as well wear 100 lbs weights on your ankles in a marathon.

You can question numbers, overall death tolls, certain events (soaps, lampshades, eagle and bears in cages, etc.) but to outright deny it happened is beyond stupid and just counterproductive. Do you not realize you're only hurting the right-wing, pro-white movements? Fuck off.

HEIL HITLER

14 is unfortunately inherently tied to 88 though. It's just a shortened, concise version based on something Hitler said.

There is an effort to brand American Nationalism as White Supremacy. This is correct
1) Train your opposition to oppose a powerful symbol. this is how to control them
2) Uniting under the american flag will divide the opposition and support into American vs. Anti-American, whereas flying a partitioning flag will divide your own support and unite the opposition against you. You cannot fly the flag of an old historical adversary (even if it was a mistake) and expect to receive wide cultural, financial, and international support.
3) It is lawful in every way to carry the U.S. flag and say anything you want to define it. Force fed red pills.
4) Any government in the U.S. (local, state, federal) will feel obligated to protect the U.S. flag as a symbol, and any violence against it cannot be portrayed as moral.
5) Any partitioning symbology (confederate flag) will be perceived as weak individualism by strong people and leaders. You should at least want to try to have your ideas integrated into the massive institutions that already exist. Partitioning the U.S. when it is not absolutely necessary would have to be the dumbest thing, for only the dumbest people.

HAIL THOR

6) The disadvantages to not defining yourself are too many, WHEN NATIONALISM IS ALL ABOUT DEFINING YOURSELF
7) Undisciplined mobs are easily divided and distracted by paid agitators, then pushed aside. Their voices don’t matter to a strong unified group.
8) You will distinguish yourself from copycats and (((subversive outliers))).
9) If the police will not protect you, you must adopt their tactics for yourself. I believe the tactics of riot control are pretty well understood. Pro tip: Rabid criminal hominids are best zip tied and lying face down.
10) If you cannot manage a crowd of violent radicles as non-violently as possible (shield wall, helmets, face shields, mace…) everything will just be disrupted, people will get hurt, and that will cost the city, that has to host your event, a lot of money. This makes you too expensive for anyone to like you.

you've got to be kidding right
"shill" really

tell me what the fuck is wrong with my arguement ... and if you dont/cant/wont ... in your next post ....
IT IS YOU WHO IS THE JIDF SHILL

you fucking scumbag jew, waving your nazi flag, and trying to destroy a modern W/N movement

so go ahead prove me wrong

you want to "persuade" someone, I suggest you do a little reading, ON HOW TO PERSUADE THEM ....when was the last time you ever persuaded anyone by insulting them?

you have to "pace" then "lead"
you have to agree with them about things that concern them

is modern society unfair
"why yes it is normie"
we need to make it more fair
"yes we do"
we need more marxism
"but marxism hasnt worked so far...."
then what should we do
(now the turn begins)
we need to look at the root causes normie

pace and lead, agree thier is a problem first, agree with them, then begin disputing the root causes
you will go much farther

Siding with Hitler and promoting Nazi imagery and ideals the the extreme, is akin to supporting Satan. Kids are brought up to believe that Hitler is the most, purely evil man who ever existed. In school, you spend entire periods or entire days, and you can spend like an entire month on Wold War 2, an hour and a half every other day, and most of it is talk about Hitler and that he is the absolute most actrocious, despicable man ever. Sure, you learn about other people too, and other reasons for the war, but it all boils down to Hitler had to be stopped. He exterminated six gorillion like they were nothing and treated them more poorly than any human has ever been treated.

You simply just can't side with a man like that, he is taught as enemy #1. Basically every alive Boomerse throiugh Gen Z and younger, has been taught that Hitler = Satan.. Hitler = #1 worst, hands-down. Everyone is brought up learning that.

Please guys, let it go. That is red-pill people need to take on their own, the masses aren't ready for it, and never will be. NEVER WILL BE. Im begging anons. I have been here a long time, before the fappening, a long time before that. Before spurdo, when there was just pedobear, and he was constantly needed. Hell, I think I might have been here before Pepe even.. So please anons. Get your shit together. I don't wan't to live in a Brazlified, half white or less United States. People on the left are never going to join us, much less listen to us, if we go in public as hardcore Satan supporters. So yeah just stop. Oh yeah I even remember Candlejack does anyone else rememb-

Alt-left guide to bowing down like good dog.

you're right
shame nobody will believe you because nazis are retards
props for actual political understanding

The funniest part is, as soon as we gain power it will be NatSoc 2.0 just under a different name. Admiring Hitler in private and annonmously on the internet is different then representing you're ideaology publicaly. I'm pretty sure every NatSoc here understands hiding you're power level.

Who must be send back to r3ddit

Lemmings still vote. Manipulating lemmings is what put Trump office. The arguments made in that infograph are invalid.

Nazis, KKK, Antifa, and BLM fuck off.

yeah sure, because an objective political activist would use ad-hominems in response to a successful right wing ideology.

this
nazis are retards
this is why kekistan is going full up and running while natsoc in 2017 is dead on track

>successful right wing ideology
What would that be?

14 is inherently tied to 88.

But I agree with what you're saying though.

>Our image is important. If you wish to save the white race, you got to drop Hitler.

They don't realize that all we have to do is bring enough whites over to the right-wing, pro-white movements, which is relatively easy to do without the anti-Semitic shit.

It's so much easier to redpill normies/centrists/etc. with all sorts of information on niggers, Islam/Muslims, Europe being destroyed, etc, as opposed to the 'JQ', which is harder to do since it involves claims of them being 'behind the scenes' & whatnot. Whereas the aforementioned groups; their actions are more at the forefront of the world.

It comes across as way too conspiratorial if you start with the 'Jews are behind it all' stuff, or make that a main cog in any right-leaning political movement.

Besides, if people become redpilled enough on niggers, Islam/Muslims, Europe being destroyed - again, fairly easy to do - then once they start doing their own research, they'll inevitably come across other stuff such as Jewish involvement, and at the very least, be wary of the issue.

For all you Nazi larpers: that's more than enough.

kekistan

I think the alt-right do realise this though, which is why Richard Spencer doesn't go around using Nazi imagery, and in fact he (usually) denounces that stuff

He's still a bit of an idiot though. He clearly loves himself way too much. Which sucks. But, at the same time, it's good that lots of mainstream outlets are willing to speak to him. He's *sort of* legitimising white identity. Not completely, but I think it's a step in the right direction.

The thing is, if whites really are going to become a minority in America, then they WILL have to represent themselves as a minority. That's a NECESSARY logical step. So it's a conversation that America needs to have. It's a question of when, not if. Obviously the most likely outcome is that it will be balanced against the needs of other minorities. But, one day, America will have to realise that racism against whites *can* be a thing, just like racism against any other ethnic group can be a thing.

Even normies think 1476 is gay