Can we have one based Franco thread? He saved Spain from communism. Commies wanted to forbid religion and were destroying churches and killing priests (Google ''red terror Spain''). Also if France fell to commies Soviet union would have another ally against west in cold war and who knows how it would have ended.
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Nationalists from Spain were tuff guys and were also supported by other tuff guys - nationalists from Germany, Portugal and Italy.
Republicans aka comunists and anarchists had the Ussr support and the international(commie) brigates - libtards and comies from all the west
Iberians still aren't white
They have awesome history but aren't white
Talked about this with a Spanish girl recently and she was extremely triggered, told me about her anarchist great grandmother who was killed by the regime, told me I sound like a fascist sympathiser for defending him. I argued that without Franco''s brutal tactics Spain would have fallen to communism and millions more would have died but it didn't seem to sink in
They are not like you Tyrone.
iberians are white
You will probably not even understand the pic
Go away shill. By Spanish inventions, conquest, and arhitecture its clear they are white. And they are majority R1
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Spain and Portugal are just like Germany and Sweden where all the real men died out a long time ago
Makes me sad seeing the countries that expelled the jews and muslims, saved Europe from muslims, and spread Christianity to the new world fall to cucking. Great countries with some of the coolest history out of all of Europe but brainwashing has really done a number on the conquistador psyche. Maybe one day they will rise up again for another reconquista.
Spanish girls are fucking low IQ feminist bitches
Heroes
Iberians are NOT white. They are too mixed with North Africans to be white. I think they have an awesome history but just look at them, they're just as dark as Greeks or Turks. You need white skin to be white.
Also Iberians were colonized by the Phoenicians long ago and they were semites. Just like Italians, Iberians arent fully European
Iberians are Iberians. That's it.
Bro spanish girls are fucking awful. I went to spain a few years ago to vacation and explore the country. Your old folk are fucking awesome and love their history but the young men and women there have lots of self hatred.
I hope one day you get another Franco
... he gave a coup... to a democracy...
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and yeah, fuck a priest, the Batican is one of the biggest pedo rings in the world.
Not everyone has to be blonde like Swedes. Real diversity exists in Europe. Also look At Italians they were never conquered by any muslim nation yet they are same like Spanish but have tons of inventions. By your logic North Africa is Germanic because vandals controlled it for 100years
Redpill me more on Franco. I hear we did many good things, but I hear he did some bad too, such as purging and sedating the Falangists after the civil war like Hitler did with the Strasserists.
Oops wanted to write '' If Spain fell to commies''
All data say's otherwise Tyrone. There's a genetic separation, between iberians and north africans. they are not b related.
Just make sure you know if you come to the U.S. you are not white, we will just bunch you in with Latinos
The whole fuck the judeo masonic plagues was cool. But dividing your country in half and making them kill eachother wasn't cool, at all.
If you wanna know more about any specific things just ask, and check for what was there right before he made the coup.
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South spain is definetly mixed with Moors though. They were ruled for 800 years and are much browner than the northern Spaniards. Coincidence? I don't believe it is
Moortugese are definitely not white
>never conquered by muslims
Southern Italy had tons of wars with muslims. Italy isn't white this is established by now
Salazar vs. Franco - who was more awesome?
Salazar bravely sought to maintain the Portuguese Empire when colonialism was really falling out of the mainstream in the 50s and 60s, but I like how brutally Franco fucked the communists, putting them in concentration camps and using them as slave labor, exactly where they belong.
Friendly reminder that Spain was Christian for about 200 years before the Muslim invasion. Then, for about another 200 years, 90% of Iberia was Muslim, and for another 581 years, 50% of Iberia was Muslim. So, Central/Southern Iberia was muslim for 781 continual years, compared to Christian for 200 years, and you call it the Reconquista? And no, Iberia was not "still majority Christian." The native population actually pretty willingly converted, and all historians admit, that in at least al-andulus, the native population was majority Muslim, and in the cities, 90%+ muslim. I'm not hating, just get the facts straight. Even adding up to today, Spain has pretty much, counting from Paganism which crept away in the 500s/600s in Iberia, been Islamic about as equal length as Christian.
It wasn't show me map where it was. Outside of small part of sicily being coqnueredd Italy never was never conquered by non white nation
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That pic is from EU3 intro if I am correct.
You realize if it was 90% muslim it would never be able to recover and be 100% Christian later on? Besides most of the muslims were native converts. At time of Arab invasion Iberia had population of around 4 million and arab force conqureing numbered 20 000 it can hardly have significant imapact on genetics
Al-Andulus was quite prosperous and because of the benefits of converting to Islam to avoid jizya tax, Iberians willingly converted
Spaniards and Moortugese will always be Muslims at heart. They look like Muslims and I bet if they were forced to convert today it would be no problem
They are both by genes and culture white, Spain and Portugal. And by civilization too. That's not even debatable, because it makes no sense.
>Al-Andulus was quite prosperous
Yes right. Stop exposing your self Lefty pol shills.
>Democracy
The results were fucking rigged. On top of that, the subhumans who burnt churches and raped nun were elected and liberated 30 000 subhuman ansrchists that killed a lot of people.
Fuck off. The Spanish expelled both the Moors and the Jews, and were instrumental in spreading Western Civilization to the Americas. Also, Franco was a terrific traditionalist, anti-communist leader.
They're cucked today, but not as much as most of the rest of Western Europe. For all your accusations of how Muslim Spaniards are, I can tell you it's one of the few Western European countries in which the most common name among newborns isn't "Mohammed." They also have a more vibrant, interesting culture than say Poland, Belgium, or Norway.
>The results were fucking rigged.
now give me reliable source
>MOORTUGESE
>WHITE
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
These girls are sexy but definitely not white
They are Germanic rape-babies. Are Germans not white as well now?
I never said they didn't have an awesome history
I love Iberians. They just aren't white. Italians pretty much created Western civilization as we know it, are they white nowadays? No
>They also have a more vibrant, interesting culture than say Poland, Belgium, or Norway.
How is their culture vibrant? Nowadays they're just lazy niggers who sleep in the middle of the day after getting out of work at 1pm and eating churros around a table with their enormous families that all live in one house
leave him alone, all the posts he has made in this thread are about how Spain is not white, he is a filthy kike with the divide tactics, or a useful retard that fell for it
I can only find them in Spanish, I'm trying to look for english ones
spanish ones will do for me ;)
>get raped by germans
>get raped by romans
>get raped by Moors
>go on to rape injuns
>have sex with slave niggers in their colonies
That's the Iberian phenotype
It's always so easy to spot the kike.
Franco was superior since Salazar supported the allies in ww2, while Franco atleast allowed volunteers to go fight for Germany. And after the war was over he allowed former German soldiers to seek refuge in Spain
The anarchists and anti-Bolshevik communists opposed USSR intervention and refused to fight with them. And they were crushed because they ended up fighting against the axis of Republicans, Socialists, and Fascists.
Spanish Civil Wars is one of the most interesting civil wars in history, and it's starting to remind me of the current scenario in America. Franco's my waifu.
Have you actually seen Spanish culture up close
Their work ethic can be described as deplorable at best. Also my grandfather wouldn't consider them white, why should I consider them white? Nowadays we only think that southern europeans, slavs, and Irish are white because we have mexicans and sandniggers in our country who are way worse than subhuman Europeans.
The girl on the left don't look native maybe immigrant descent , the others look native white iberian.
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Do not be mistaken, Franco only kill spanish Communists, that is, Franco only killed Spaniards.
The international policy of Franco was a shame, was nothing
Franco preferred to be killing Spaniards than to be recovering colonies or recovering portugal.
With Franco Spain lost the last African colonies that Spain had of its glorious past were lost.
A mediocre dictator without international projection and without values (beyond the Romanic and Christian values)
Primo de Rivera was a real patriot and not Franco.
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it seems like it could be a thing, still I don't think that would justify dividing the country in half and making them kill eachother
Both countries were neutral i think.
And they were both pro axis, at least by ideology
Found a picture of your ancestors
The Borbon family has betrayed Franco and all the Spaniards, they are a mafia family without any kind of repercussion in the social and political life of the Spaniards.
Franco would feel ashamed of what the royal family has done, steal and steal the money of the Spaniards
glorious ancestors
This. Hitler viewed Franco as just another dictator. Primo de Rivera was a revolutionary like Mussolini and would've improved the whole country while Franco only improved some regions.
Next time you see her (if you do see her) tell her to defend this:
-Church burnings
-Paracuellos
And I'm not even full right wing but this shit annoys me the fuck out, specially since members of my family died for being on the "ebil fascists" side.
Are those guys with the pizza mats on their head native Spaniards or are they Arabs?
I can't tell the difference
They were in very different situations in spite of being next to each other and fighting commies.
Salazar was a borderline sperg that mostly cared about engineering and industry and wanted to become a priest. Franco was a pure military man. He focused on violence which he where he excelled and left virtually all the management of the country to his based advisers.
They're both 10/10 leaders.
have you tried Anthony beevor?
he's pretty much the go to source for english sources on the Spanish Civil War.
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Salazar did everything he could to keep Portugal neutral. From bartering with our Oldest Ally™ Britain and forming Iberian defense pact with Spain. Also some portuguese volunteers fought within the blue division.
>The Iberian Pact committed the two countries to defend the Iberian Peninsula against any power that attacked either country and helped to ensure Iberian neutrality in the event of a general European war.
The Borbon family since Fernando VII has betrayed Spain
Hitler and Mussolini despised Franco. They both had to swallow Franco's international political and military failures. You must also remember that Franco was a lover of Christianity, indeed, the real power in Spain was the Catholic Church over all things.
Spaniard Republics weren't good really. People tend to idolise them (specially the second) when they were an absolute clusterfuck for several reasons. And as much as some of the youth hates it, the current system seems to work way better.
Also, at the end of the Second Republic things were getting so tense that it was a bomb ready to explode.
Where are the frenchs ?
Forgive Salazar for not being won over by Germans and their claims of racial superiority. Hitler had to tell the Croats that they weren't really Slavic but Slavic speakers who were descended from Aryans. I can't really blame Iberians for wanting to stay out of WWII. It was a devastating war and it didn't directly effect them.
You're pretty much describing Mediterranean Europe, and not Spain, with the comment on work ethic, the whole notion of the Northern European "Protestant Work Ethic" coming to mind.
The Meds make up for it with good architecture, food, culture, and so on. And Spain did have one of the highest standards of living and per capita incomes in the world under Franco, before social democracy set in. A people aren't necessarily born lazy, but can be conditioned to become that way by society and the system they were born into. Social democracy has been the fundamental origin of neethood.
Franco had to focus inward, his country having just emerged from a bloody, horrific civil war. He presided over an era of economic prosperity, cultural traditionalism, and stability for his country. He did nothing wrong. He understood the very basic truth that the only place a communist belongs is in the ground.
>With Franco Spain lost the last African colonies that Spain had of its glorious past were lost.
Didn't this happen when he was on his deathbed iirc?
Kek alright I'll give it up. Iberians are white. I just like making these jokes to trigger Iberians and Southern Europeans because they get really mad and insecure if you call them non-white
My dad is actually from Moortugal and I've been there before and some of the old guys will call each other 'moreno' basically they make fun of the darker guys and tease them saying that they have Moors in their bloodline
I saw how funny it was seeing these guys get pissed at each other when they get called Moors and now I like to mess with Iberians on Sup Forums using the same joke, because it really does piss them off. It's like calling a white southerner black because he may or may not have a slave somewhere down his bloodline
Franco contributed to the civil war, it was his war, the only war with Franco, a war of Spanish vs. Spanish ....
Franco disdained hitler and musolini not giving them international real help
Didn't Franco use moroccans too?
How many portugese fought for the axis inside germany units? i've read about 300 volunteers. The spaniards also did it.
But remain neutral was probably the best decision for Spain and Portugal
>The Meds make up for it with good architecture, food, culture, and so on. And Spain did have one of the highest standards of living and per capita incomes in the world under Franco, before social democracy set in. A people aren't necessarily born lazy, but can be conditioned to become that way by society and the system they were born into. Social democracy has been the fundamental origin of neethood.
I know I'm just kidding. I actually admire how you guys aren't so obsessed with work and that's something I hate about American and anglo culture, the idea that you need work as your first priority and what not
I actually want to move to Spain or Moortugal at some point because I like the relaxed lifestyle. My dad still has property and family in Moortugal I might go there after college. Although I hate how your government is so communist and left wing and NOBODY FUCKING SPEAKS ENGLISH
>La France
>Blanche
Spain and Portugal were split up on who supported who in WW2. I'm assuming more people supported the fascists than the democratic Allies but I could be wrong.
(((history))) tries to tell us most Spainards hated their government at that time but I don;t really believe that
they were loyal soldiers and given benefits if they fought.
they were also, better trained soldiers. they proved really effective in the Spainish Civil War.
Yes, the colonies were lost / given away during the time of Franco.
With Franco we lost international territories, and we won nothing international territories, nothing
Ok lowlife scum. now go suck a minorities dick somewhere else.
I don't speak about the so-called (((French)) shitskins. But the true french like alpines/Mediterranean/celtic/nord
Franco would have to have invaded portugal and to recover territory and not to dedicate to kill Spaniards
But the power of Franco was so minimal that he had to use the Portuguese to get something of notoriety
a shame
Nigger I was joking. I'm sorry I reminded you of the trauma your Southern belle mother went through when she got raped by Buttermilk Biscuit Billy one of the local nigger boys and created you
in the heart
trust me when I say, that the country is still to this day heavily divided in two from that war alone
-pro franco: church, military, culture, art and reading is for faggots
-others: anti church, anti military, pro culture
as you can see I'm one-sided as most of the population in this country, and that being, I'm still a anti-zionist nat-soc
but dividing your country in half and making them kill eachother is never good my man
qts
Bien sûr mahomet.
In Spain, only wants Franco the rednecks of central Spain and the old apostolic catholics people, the real and cult fascists follow Primo de Rivera, not Franco
Another remeinder wanted to write '' IF spain fell to commies soviet union would have another ally against west i....''' Dunno how did i manage to write France
Pro degenerate culture maybe, because the left here is clearly anti Spanish culture.
This
I know we are composed of many different whites ethnicities due to our central position in Western Europe but still...
Please, remember that most of the Spanish posters on Sup Forums and Sup Forums are literal edgy kids who come from Forocoches, take everything they say (if you can understand their poor English) with a grain of salt because they basically know nothing and talk out of their ass.
Like this babbling retard
What about Ramiro Ledesma, the founder of the National Syndicalist idea?
God bless all the men that stood up to the red terror. Communism needs to be wiped from the face of the earth and if that means 100 million of them hanging then so be it.
Yes, he really was the beginning of everything, a man of values little remembered
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It's just like everywhere else in the west honestly, especially america. The art cucks are just communists who support the West dying
bllablabla back to forocoches blablabla
But what I say is true
Calla la boca ya y apúntate a clases de inglés.
PD: Primo de Rivera era un pelele, un amanerado acomplejado que le jugó el juego a la izquierda como un tonto y por ello murió
>Pro degenerate culture maybe
there is no denying that, but they also liked true culture, like literature, arts, etc.
Do you think there's another chance for a 2nd civil war? Or is the Left gaining support now through media and culture, so a war is not necessary?