Give me some reasons why homosexuals aren't abominations of nature, unnatural, or don't have a mental illness.
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Give me reasons why homosexuals aren't just an abomination of nature
Ayden Collins
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Ryan Rivera
im bi and im the nicest guy i know
Benjamin Bennett
Because homosexuality exists in nature?
Jonathan Reed
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Caleb Jenkins
Just because you're nice doesn't justify it, lol.
James Lopez
Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:
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Straight males carry gay genes:
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Fecundity increases in female relatives of male homosexuals:
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Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:
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Female relatives of gay men have 1.3x as many children:
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Androgen receptor gene linked to XQ28
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Nathan Allen
>meme sexuality
doesn't exist kys
Eli Cooper
It may exist in nature, but it could be an illness found in multiple species. Take rabies, for example.
The primary instinct of all species is to survive, reproduce, and continue their species. If you go against the primary instinct, is there something wrong with you?
Yes.
Ryder Butler
you faggot
Carter Rodriguez
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Matthew Kelly
Homosexuality isn't deleterious, therefore it isn't an illness. And how is instinct an arguement? It's just environmental behavior, like knowing how to hold your breath under water.
Aaron Stewart
Theres no need to post this in every thread normies might accept you but i'll never will.
take the final redpill on your 'sexuality'
Tyler Thomas
wow those anonymous forum posts sure are reliable sources
Eli Fisher
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Ethan Carter
Whats up CIA!
Ian James
they're cute when they dress like girls
Austin Hernandez
>tiny idiotic subset of a much larger community represents the entirety of said community
I guess all christians are abortion clinic bombers, all white males aged 15-30 are spree shooters, and all people who support trump are also literal neo-nazis who support genocide of all races but the whites
Jordan Morris
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James Foster
mu hur dur amerifat who never left his good ol' bama. I lived in Amsterdam for 20 years buddy I was raised with this ideology shoved down my throat the shit these 'people' do and need to display is getting worse by the day as well as the amount of suicides and depression in older gays is staggering because you live a life that is lie
Brandon Campbell
Most of them started watching porn incorrectly, starting with normal hetero porn, then hetero anal, then lesbian, and then fetishistic stuff/gay porn, and thought they liked dicks. With that said:
>Sex is solely for reproduction. If a person is attracted to another person of the same sex, they cannot reproduce, therefore, the "playing out" of traditional man/woman sex acts with that person is wasted effort. If a person is attracted to someone of the same sex, this means that they see something in that person that is worthy of being reproduced, but they know that it cannot happen: it is therefore a sexual paraphilia.
>If a man starts watching porn, and finds himself looking at the penis a little too much, that does not mean he is gay, but society would like to convince him of that. The sight of an erect penis is a sperm competition cue for many men, which goes back to early human days when nudity was more common. In other words, men who like looking at dicks are highly competitive, but get tricked by the society that pushes the gay agenda. Men are more likely to describe the penis using highly descriptive words such as, "veiny", "huge", "thick", etc. It's why even lots of "straight" men find pre-op transsexuals visually appealing.
Now, one thing I will say is that it is normal for males to be at least a little bit turned on by a feminine looking male or trap, even if they know it is a male. Males are attracted to femininity, and when you put a dick on something feminine, it's a bit confusing. Anyway, there ya go.
Jason Carter
Well it is an illness, Why can't we treat it like every other chronic illness? They are removing themselves from the genepool after all.
Ethan James
> the current state of Sup Forums
hur dur muh white genocide
t. a faggot
Brandon Jackson
it probably naturally arises in males, probably completely artificial in females. its normalization causes it to be a choice. there are probably more degenerates who choose to be faggots than actual homosexuals.
Landon Phillips
>lived in Amsterdam for 20 years
>still hasn't died of aids or suicide
sure you did faggot
Henry Smith
Nice faggot picture faggot
Lincoln Sullivan
In to the gas chambers with you
Leo Brown
Milo....the biggest fag on Earth.. has unmasked the lies about Homosexuality from the homosexuals...
Watch this, and end the lies that fag tell you that it's "Genetic":
Jaxon Lewis
Jeus christ hen did this place got taken oer by this nu-pol nigger loving faggot echo chamber?
Carter Richardson
It is not necessarily an illness. It's time to stop.
If humans were running around naked again like humans used to, men would be in small packs, and would hold down the most beautiful of women, and each man would ejaculate in that one female, usually with the largest penis going first.
These males who believe they are gay have derived their paraphilia by making an attempt at doing something wrong in a "civilized" world in order to get at that "large penis". That's why you'll see "gay" dudes claiming they have way bigger dicks than they actually have, while claiming to like big ones.
They're trying to be uncivilized in a civilized world, and it all goes back to sperm competition.
Chase Rogers
There is no gay gene. All of this shit you posted is circumstantial.
Logan Allen
>Give me some reasons why homosexuals aren't abominations of nature, unnatural, or don't have a mental illness.
There are none, faggotry is a byproduct of abuse, they provide absolutely no benefits to society and a boatload of negatives. Fags should be euthanised and put out of their misery before they can molest kids and spread diseases.
>redpilled
>faggots
Pick one
Sebastian Hall
Wow (((user))) you are so right
Carson Flores
How retarded are you m8?
Josiah James
Imagine one day that all people on earth turn faggot because of fake news.
No one would reproduce.
Justin Gutierrez
I was saying your picture is irrelevant, which is a matter of statistics. Your anecdotes aren't important, dude.
Cooper Thomas
The only reason it is no longer an 'illness' is because the left redefined the rules.
Homosexuality has been rejected by humanity across all cultures and time. It has only ever enjoyed a small welcome in degenerate circles.
Put it this way - would you choose homosexuality for your kids if you were given an option at birth? No one would, except a gay child abuser. Fact.
Decent healthy humans reject homosexuality. If it takes billions of dollars to try and brainwash kids into 'being okay' with homosexuality, then clearly humanity has a natural and instinctive problem with homosexuality.
Like trans folk, it is an illness an death has already targeted it for extinction.
That's history. That's facts.
Josiah Lee
>abominations of nature
Yeah I don't think you understand nature
Leo Peterson
>Homosexuality has been rejected by humanity across all cultures and time.
Tradition is not an argument.
>It has only ever enjoyed a small welcome in degenerate circles.
Popularity is not an argument.
>Put it this way - would you choose homosexuality for your kids if you were given an option at birth?
I try not to think about what my children would masturbate to, just as I don't think about what my parents masturbate to. It's their private life.
Jordan Baker
Even if gays are mental/abominations/etc. what does calling them that accomplish?
You could force every liberal to admit that gays have a mental illness, it wouldn't make gays go away. Unless your plan is to kill/imprisson every gay, even though most are functioning members of society, all you're doing is shitposting
Lincoln Hall
>can't do what they want for like 1500years
>can finally live like they want
>try to push people to do stuff they don't want
wrong attitude desu
Christopher Myers
This user is right we should start purging known homosexuals and put them on the first train to poland
Juan Smith
So many people who misunderstand gayness, and I'm not even gay. It's masculinity taken to the maximum. Males used to GO AROUND IN PACKS in the past, and the most beautiful women would be held down and ejaculated in by all of them. THE SIGHT OF THE PENIS is a sperm competition cue for males. That is why porn almost ALWAYS features a large penis.
These "gay" men are attempting to get at that large penis in a civilized world. It's so fucking simple, the fact that you fuckers are still typing out mental retardation is almost saddening.
Jaxson Stewart
>even though most are functioning members of society, all you're doing is shitposting
It's simple, all we have to do is stigmatize it again so they go back into hiding.
Logan Turner
Good paragraph m8 its now a copypasta
Nathaniel Ortiz
>It's masculinity taken to the maximum
>t. JACK DONOVAN
Liam Torres
I don't approve of gayness. I think it's weird and disgusting. AIDS is bad. But everything I wrote is exactly why gays do what they do.
Landon Rogers
Yes it is an argument. You are just to thick to engage my points. Your last point just makes you look desperate m8.
Look I get it, you're a faggot and it pisses you off that most decent, normal healthy people are disgusted by you. Science does not support your position - there is no gay gene.
It's a fact.
Oliver Long
Tradition is an argument, for what dictates the normal is the common, which can only be seen through the lens of history. It's something unnatural, this is fact.
Now, it's acceptance I care not, but normalization of homosexuality is in it of itself bad mentality. It's not normal, but those who choose so, choose to do so.
Imagine this, if homosexuality were related to mental illness or trauma, then solving these problems first, then letting them choose is the best compromise.
In the end, it's not natural, nor normal, it's something that shouldn't be motivated, or exagerated. If someone chooses this path, go for it, and no consequences to the individual.
Liam Powell
Give me some reasons why using changeowner to make borders aesthetic is wrong.
Asher Long
>It's masculinity taken to the maximum. Males used to GO AROUND IN PACKS in the past, and the most beautiful women would be held down and ejaculated in by all of them
Wtf are you even talking about dumb cunt? Faggots aren't hyper-masculine and there is no way of proving your anecdotal garbage you keep spewing.
Europeans have been civilised for thousands of years, its not like we were roaming around in gang rape packs just a few generations ago. Faggots are not some throwback to cavemen.
Austin Price
Yep. Nothing more manly than taking a weiner in the dirt hole. Fact is, most faggots were abused as children and that's why they're the way they are.
Nathan Parker
Nobody touched me as a kid.
Jaxson Peterson
"people did this before therefore it is correct" is not and will never be an argument. If you want to argue against homosexuality, you must get to the reasons of WHY they banned it, and judge those reasons on their own basis. Nature is the same way: what does nature have to do if something is good or not? Is poison ivy good? Is tuberculosis?
Samuel Barnes
Just fuck off mate. Seriously. You can twist it all you want but kissing and a man and fucking his arse, or having your arse fucked by a man is just flat out revolting and normal, healthy decent society rightly rejects it.
No one would choose homosexuality for their child except a child abuser.
Ayden Price
that you remember.
Jose Price
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Levi Wilson
They're an aberration, not an abomination.
lrn2english
Parker Bailey
>he lies because he's knows im right.
Aiden Peterson
no you're americas retarded little brother
Carson Myers
I never said they weren't fucked up in the head due to abuse. But this is why these males do this. I've read stuff from various sources and put it all together. Good luck on your quest to figuring out why gays do what they do. Good luck on your quest to figuring out why cuckolds do what they do as well. It certainly has nothing to do with sperm competition.
(it does)
Leo Cruz
Rape is natural.
Procreating with a female as soon as she is physically able to do so is natural.
Incest is natural.
Cannibalism is natural.
We are not-uncivilized beasts, we rose above all of this stuff for a reason.
Adrian Moore
I never said it was 'banned' I said all societies have been okay with accepting it is inherently wrong. Because it is.
We don't fuck baby's for the same reason and we don't fuck relatives for the same reason
Surely there would at least be a 50/50 otherwise.
But no. Across time and across culture - homosexuality has been rejected and the people have been okay with this. It is only gaining acceptance now due to mass brainwashing of children at schools and mostly done without parents permission.
Plus no gay gene found yet.
Kevin Moore
What is this supposed to prove?
John Ramirez
this.
The worst argument has to be "but apes fuck each other!" As if humans were on the same level as apes.
Cooper Anderson
Yeah I've been saying nature isn't an argument in the thread, I shouldn't have just jumped on attacking his argument first before attacking the argument in general. My mistake.
We don't even need to find a gay gene - if being gay were being a choice, it doesn't affect arguments for against it because - again - nature is not an argument.
Why have people rejected it? Do you even know?
Brandon Flores
That gays are more likely to have been abused than regular people.
Tell me, why are gays so promiscuous? Why do have such high rates of STDs? Why do they have such high rates of drug abuse?
Mason Gomez
What do you think about people have sex with their sibilings (assuming they use a contraceptive)?
What do you think about people have sex with dead animal corpses?
Michael Cox
Nobody is denying that gays are more vulnerable to abuse. We dispute that somehow abuse is capable of causing homosexuality, which has not been proven at all.
Because for a long time gays were forced to marry women and only have sex with each other in secret, which didn't lend itself to monogamy.
Ryan Turner
Toxoplasma
Angel Peterson
This. The only problem is that when video-recorded porn came around in the 70s, it was the first time males casually saw other men's erect penises in hundreds of years. It rewires men's brains to wanting to see a female take a big dick in her, which almost all porn has now. When the male viewer ejaculates to that, in his mind, he is cumming in her as well. Beginning to see my point?
James Perry
>What do you think about people have sex with their sibilings (assuming they use a contraceptive)?
Doesn't bother me at all, since it harms no one.
>What do you think about people have sex with dead animal corpses?
That one squicks me out, but if they could somehow do it without getting a disease... what's the problem?
Camden Peterson
You keep saying 'is not an argument' like that prick Stefan Molyneux.
Run off with your ball if you think it is not fair. God know why you pricks think we should only discuss these things on your terms.
Thomas Adams
>Nobody is denying that gays are more vulnerable to abuse
Why are gays more vulnerable to abuse than anyone else?
>. We dispute that somehow abuse is capable of causing homosexuality, which has not been proven at all.
abuse is known to cause all other sorts of depravity among people like masochism and cuckoldry.
>Because for a long time gays were forced to marry women and only have sex with each other in secret, which didn't lend itself to monogamy.
>can't be openly gay
>decides to fuck hundreds of dude at a bath house
How does that work?
Charles Perry
Have you tried making an argument? I mean, I literally asked you why you think homosexuality is bad, and all you could do was point to other people saying it was bad.
Eli Lopez
it's not always a mental illness. look up "gay uncle theory"
Levi Peterson
>Doesn't bother me at all, since it harms no one.
so you'd be cool with incest being as mainstream as homosexuality ie promoted in TV shows like Will and Grace and it being taught as a legitimate form of love in schools?
>That one squicks me out, but if they could somehow do it without getting a disease... what's the problem?
Let me ask you my dude, where do you draw the line of what is acceptable and not acceptable in our society?
Julian Mitchell
It harms civilised society. Contraception is not 100% and abortion is murder.
A man sleeping with his 15 year old consenting daughter 'doesn't harm anyone' either.
What about a 60 year old man sleeping with your consenting 15 daughter? No one harmed eh? Unless that shit turns you on, you would, quite naturally, rage.
Elijah Mitchell
>so you'd be cool with incest being as mainstream as homosexuality ie promoted in TV shows like Will and Grace and it being taught as a legitimate form of love in schools?
yes
>Let me ask you my dude, where do you draw the line of what is acceptable and not acceptable in our society?
It's not really up to me, and we shouldn't conflate random issues together, but judge them on their own merits.
If it were up to me, though, it's about minimizing harm, while also ensuring the perpetuity of our society that minimizes harm. I'm really liberal on things like sexuality, but it kills me that Europe is suiciding by importing so many islamic religious extremists, for example.
What do contraception and abortion have to do with homosexuality?
15-year-olds cannot consent, I'd never support rape.
Zachary Martinez
I'm gonna be nice and warn those who were raped when they were younger to read ahead at your own peril. It's about to get real.
Because homosexuals "reproduce" by raping little boys and girls. This scars their soul and fucks up their sexual sensibilities, molding it in to the form of what the abuser makes it. In many ways they are innocent because a normal life and sexual sensibility was robbed from them without their say or control. I would say in my opinion that homosexuals who are together because of actual love for each other, not lust, may possibly be ok. But the ones who make sex their all encompassing topic for life to revolve around? They miiiiiiiight be fucking up.
Adrian Parker
Simple. If it feels good, tastes good, and doesn't kill you, nature is cool with it.
There isn't some magical man in the sky creating rules. Homosexuality is part of evolution. There are too many humans, so naturally some of the same gender will couple up in order to not reproduce.
Jacob Sullivan
You can boil it down to that m8 if it makes you feel better. The I have made have been stumping fag defenders for years and they all pull your stunt -
'er... no not like that... please argue my way'
Allow me to premempt your next tactic - racist, nazi, literal Hitler, homophobe right?
Go suck a dick Aid boy - your time is running it out. Enjoy it whilst it lasts. Decent, healthy and normal folk have a species to defend whilst you blow whistles in pink hats.
Anthony King
Porn is being used to pacify the masses to the upcoming collapse, and Jews are making a fortune off of it. The more things they can normalize, the more chaos it causes. Where there is chaos, there is money to be made. Porn and degeneracy causes mental illness, which funds the pharmaceutical industry. 30% of people are on a psychiatric drug.
Every single time a teacher having sex with a student post pops up on Sup Forums EVERY SINGLE poster is approving of it. It's fucking hilarious to me. The absolute hypocrisy.
Everyone has lost their minds.
Xavier Rodriguez
>yes
>It's not really up to me, and we shouldn't conflate random issues together, but judge them on their own merits.
>15-year-olds cannot consent, I'd never support rape.
Dude, you're the textbook definition of a degenerate. A true student of marxism.
>If it were up to me, though, it's about minimizing harm, while also ensuring the perpetuity of our society that minimizes harm.
Homosexual acts are the most harmful sexual acts one can perform.
>It's not really up to me, and we shouldn't conflate random issues together, but judge them on their own merits.
Brave New World is around the corner.
William Lewis
They can consent in many countries. But if you are such an admirer of the rule of law, you are okay with cultures that legally punish homosexuality - right?
Or do you pick and choose?
Again, if it was legal, would you be okay with a man fucking his kid or your kid? As in 15 year old kid?
I know you are already going to lie so just fuck off.
Hunter Rodriguez
Species exists
Species exists to create more of itself
Species exists to create more of itself but sometimes makes mistakes when reproducing on the genetic level - homosexuality is one of these genetic mistakes. And although natural - serves no purpose to the future generations in contributing genetic material.
Ryan Edwards
I don't know I figure it could be argued that is causing harm as you aren't fulfilling a primary role and most likely will not have offspring.
John Richardson
>Homosexual acts are the most harmful sexual acts one can perform.
Because of AIDS. Otherwise, it's no more harmful than a teacher fucking a student hypocrite.
Time to kys
Tyler Hill
> And although natural - serves no purpose to the future generations in contributing genetic material.
But should it be encouraged, celebrated, paraded, and taught to our children as a viable alternative lifestyle?
Joshua Myers
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Liam Edwards
simply abnormalies (maybe)
Gavin Davis
>naturalistic fallacy
Oliver Miller
I still think it should not be promoted to kids. Today it is considered "progressive" to have a 8 years old boy who dress and put make up like a drag queen.
Gavin Nguyen
For real dude, I'm trying to engage you. If all you want to say is "people say it's bad", then what else can I say but "I disagree"? I just want the argument to be deeper than that. I'm not going to let it devolve into namecalling.
>Homosexual acts are the most harmful sexual acts one can perform.
How?
I'm not some authoritarian man, I think we should change laws as we grow to underatand things better. I don't see a reason for cultures to punish homosexuality, for example, and you haven't given one either. But we DO know that exposing children to sexuality is harmful to their development, so I oppose that and think the age of consent should be higher in those places.
Should we only judge all actions by perpetuation of the species, though? Surely there are other considerations. I mean, if a man is gay--and never has sex, even--but is an accomplished physician, is he a failure? Is he causing harm?
Asher Foster
>What do contraception and abortion have to do with homosexuality?
Because a man fucking his sibling might accidentally have a child with deformities. You may be okay with the casual act but the consequences are not okay.
It's why humanity is okay with these norms and have instinctively always been across time and culture.
Josiah Perez
So much mental retardation and useless mental gymnastics in this thread being thinly-veiled behind buzzwords.
Let's start over: what is not degenerate? One man and one wife having sex for life?
Cooper Cox
Oh, I had actually misread your post, there. That is a totally valid argument, then, yes. But if we could hypothetically develop a 100% contraception, would you be okay with it then? And how do you feel about elderly women conceiving children, which also has a high risk of deformities?
Isaac Sanchez
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Joseph Roberts
The ANUS WAS NOT MAKE FOR A DICK
David Thomas
>Let's start over: what is not degenerate? One man and one wife having sex for life?
Yes.
Cooper Bennett
>For real dude, I'm trying to engage you. If all you want to say is "people say it's bad", then what else can I say but "I disagree"? I just want the argument to be deeper than that. I'm not going to let it devolve into namecalling.
'I disagree' is okay with me. 'Not an argument' isn't because it clearly is an argument. We point back to mankind's journey in science over and over again. Again - if rejection of homosexuality was just a choice that may or may not be wrong, then we would see a clear representation of support in many societies. There would be clear representation.
But there is none. If folk wanted it, homosexuality would be seen as normal as heterosexuality. Even the simplest of man saw that it is problem if mankind was to survive. Survival instinct trumps feelings. Only now we see acceptance but that is after a huge well funded effort that targets and indoctrinates kids at school. You seriously think it would happen otherwise?
Homosexuality is here to stay and it is present in nature - I get that. But any healthy and normal parent would not ever want it for their children. Like any illness.