Is it entitlement for women to complain about being 30 and single because guys won't propose or commit to them...

Is it entitlement for women to complain about being 30 and single because guys won't propose or commit to them, the same way they say boys who are upset about constantly getting friend zoned, rejected, or ignored are entitled?

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I think every person should be entitled for a mate, so long they don't want the best

Nobody is entitled to anything. That's the problem with western civilization today. You don't deserve anything, you have to work and earn things.

why the fuck do they say they dont want stereotypical gender roles in one moment and fight against them and the other moment they go full blown gender role enforcment panic mode

you got feminism now fucking live it and leave us all alone

>being entitled for turning into a female version of a neckbeard virgin wizard
wew

Because women don't actually want feminism, they just want to be cunty to other women.

>refuse all offers for a relationship because you want to:
>school
>career
>get rich
>so you can allegedly spoil your one child
>hit 30
>graduated college only 4-5 years ago
>career still hasn't taken off
>mostly 45 year old men pay attention to you
>they still talk down to you for your lack of success and value you primarily for your looks and vagina and homemaking skills, like the 20-25 year olds did when you were graduated high school
>think you can get a chad your own age
>mad that chad is dating a younger more fertile woman with lower expectations for his behaviour, who's more impressed with his trade job than you are
>profit?

seems like a reasonable analogy to me
>there is no such thing as a "commitment phobe" because Men aren't vending machines you can put coins into and have diamond rings and lifelong support fall out of it
still a weak argument though. I wouldn't go around using it

well they can fuck off

now if i hear any single such thing ill just accuse them of enforcing oppressive patriarchal gender norms lol
we spent countless time and effort fighting against feminist world they proposed and now they got it they dont like it - they can go fuck themselves

Anyone who met a 30 yo woman who isnt married knows they sweat at the thought of their own age.
However at the end of the day there is no one else to blame than yourself and you are stuck with your own life choices one way or another, I dont believe anyone is entitled to anything.
If you want to get married you have to work on it just like everything else in life.

It's entitlement for women in general that they think they can just spread their legs and get a decent, hardworking guy. Like attracts like, if she's gonna be a whore all she'll attract is other whores (Chad).
The sooner women understand this the sooner we'll start seeing women who know how to cook and clean again, but this requires education from their father's part and a big change to the mainstream narrative.

marriage is an old, outdated, archaic tradition thats being phased out.

theres just too many cons to marriage.

giving up ur lifestyle, having to legally share money, if she decides to fuck around and leave u even if u did it all right she gets ur money, she'll take ur kids away, she'll take ur dog away

its 2017 folks!! theres too many cons to getting married today. its better to just stay with someone u like n treat each other as life partners. Marriage is just a legal document today that means nothing except that u will financially maintain her and give her money after separation.

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is this pasta? 1/10

>still a weak argument though. I wouldn't go around using it
well i'm going to use it just to be a dick, so there.

Apparently marriage is only for gays now...

its not, i wrote that shit myself..

also you'll lose the house, ull go through court and possibly custody proceedings, waste a shit ton of money on legal fees, mediation, all that shit to end up half the man u were when u were 18, having to start allll over again like a fuckin child

>too poor to be marriage material
>went to college to smash gender roles
>still expect a man who can provide for me
Holy fucking shit, women are the stupidest fucking creatures I've ever seen

Divorce Corp is a great film to watch btw, you all should watch it if u plan on getting married one day so u know what to expect. divorce in america is one of the shittiest deals other countries dont have to deal with.

You're either 12, mgtow, or retarded.

If you go after women who are not very loyal or committed, well no shit you are going to be facing those problems. You need to vet your partner before actually getting married.

easy to say in us where you dont have the common law marriage
here in oceania europistan if you live together long enough you are considered automatically married

My dad went through two divorces and he still has the house and the farm. Nice try faggot
>inb4 proving my point
No, he has a gambling problem and cheated on his second wife, I didn't prove shit

>EAT THE FUCKING CANDY IT TASTES GOOD AND THERES ONLY LIKE 60% CHANCE ITS POISONOUS
ahahah this is the most delusional answer ever

possibly.... but why even bother "vetting" wtf is the reason i should want/desire/crave/yearn ot get married?

why bother looking for a good girl or a girl of value?

just dont get married, enjoy life n have girls that are friends and girlfriends.

Unless you are a nigger. Then you get slavery repayments.

>not knowing how to detect the poisonous candy and not eat it
wow it's like you want to remove yourself from the genepool... i mean, i'm not complaining

The candy comes with labels, but most of you just eat it anyways. Don't blame others for that

>speaking to a male friend, who is too poor to be marriage material

Is this article satire?

They're characters in a book. But no

Sure you can do that, no problem with me.

But you have to understand you are in the minority and most people are not going to do that, whether or not they have successful or failed marriages.

No. Are you that standard marriage obsessed tard that always starts these fucking threads?
What are you a fat cat lady or do you just work in the failing wedding industries?
Marriage is a suckers game and you either learn early or when you hit your forties and pay out all your money for your leach of an ex wife.

Oh yeah if you're having legitimate debates it's a weak position.
If you're just trying to fuck with idiots then yeah I'd say 10/10 bait

>feminism is actually counter productive to average looking women.

actually... we do have common law marriage in SOME states (its not federal). Infact, in some states taking on a fatherly role- such as, you meet a girl, single mom, u date her for a few weeks and treat the kid as ur own.... u now legally owe child support until that kids turns 18 even if u split up or the court sends u to prison. i dont wanna maintain a kid thats not mine if im not gonna stay with the girl.

>people are that simple and women are totally stable and will never fuck you over, you jsut have to pick the right one
ahaahahahahahahahahah you guys are funny

>Speaking to a male friend who is too poor to be marriage material, Lily confesses
Jesus Christ it's real. I was convinced OP was trolling. archive.is/HaxmH
Is this a troll? Just journos fishing for clicks. Or are these people truly that vapid and unselfaware?
Is this what constitutes our "intellectual" class?

What's stopping alphas from conceiving with several women and settling with the good one? Alimony is all that comes to mind, and that's down to no-fault divorce.

in like 5 of 50 states

you always have alaska - which is the most divinely beautiful state ever to exist

The way you exaggerate social issues is concerning, and pathetic.

No, literally everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Then depending on the environment they may be entitled to literal life saving accommodations like water in the desert, shelter in a storm, aid in an accident, etc. However denying these things is not technically illegal but rather subject to tort law. For example, if someone in the desert comes to your home asking for water and you deny them, then if they are found dead from dehydration, you could be held liable in court.

did it occur in america or canada? the divorce i mean? watch Divorce Corp a great 1 hr documentary about divorce in america and its failure

>trash people not marrying and not reproducing
What's the problem again?

>allowing your woman to fuck you over
good goy

the problem is with all women, absolutely nothing to do with your personality traits and poor perception.

Oh I guess it's different. Gross. I can't wait for your shitty policies to spread their influence North

Every one of these chicks has turned away multiple dudes who would have been reasonable partners for them. The only thing they deserve is the cobwebs that grow in their drying out twats, increasing alcoholism and drug addiction, and the crippling toxoplasmosis they get from their cat's litter box.

bro, i think its a cultural difference, i dated an english woman that was crazy traditional, marriage is something expected out of life, and that mentality is dead in america, we view relationships much differently.

>too poor to be marriage material

And this is why women end up becoming lonely spinsters.

They get too entitled and don't realize how valuable a man can be even if they make a bit less or don't have a 'nice' job.

It's because they've been lied to since they were kids, raised to believe they were 100% equal to men in every way.

So they go out, finish uni at 21/22, get a job and spend the next 15 years focussing on their career because they're strong independant women.
Then they panic because they haven't settled down and the paranoia gets to their personality, so men don't necessarily want them. Then they pass the point of fertility and men don't necessarilly want to settle with barren women.

In contrast, a man in his 50s can pump out a kid, albeit an autist that will browse Sup Forums

i know whats canada like so im not even gonna make fun of you
im just gonna offer my condolences to you - after all being as delusional as you are is teh only way to stay sane in dystopia you live in

LOLLLLL "too poor to be marriage material," goddamn these bitches aren't even hiding it anymore

Back to r9k, cuck!

I agree, culture has played a huge part.

im a 130 iq upper middle class lawyer and a landlord
women can go fuck over lives of bosnian tradeschoolers like yourself

got it open at this very instant
they are almost as fun to mess around with as you are

This pic is great.

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Men struggle in their 20s to find a woman ready to settle down because she wants to sleep around and explore her options. Then she hits 30, starts getting the beginnings on wrinkles and saggy bits and suddenly realises decent men have either already found a longterm partner or given up on dating to pursue promotions in their careers so they can cruise through their 40s and 50s.

Self inflected misery.

It's probably genuine, but keep in mind that often journalists write this shit for themselves first and foremost. The writer probably wants to think of herself as some prize that men have to earn by being incredibly in every way imaginable.

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>130 iq
>an argument

do you really want me to active my almonds?

fucking racist cunt

Couldn't normalize gay marriage so now you want us all to participate in the fag version of marriage. No thanks.

Yes Yes kuffar don't marry and reproduce while I'll breed my four wives to five kids each at least!
>rubbing hands.jpg

>you have to work and earn things
pay debt

If men put the effort women do, into their physical appearance, then women would be much easier to pick up. Of corse you're going to get hit on by loads of faggots too.
>I'd rather be a monk

>Speaking to a male friend who is too poor to be marriage material
>to poor

just kill me please

>>allowing your woman to fuck you over
This desu, if i lived in the anglo world (the part of the world where men are totally fucked in the case of divorce) i would make sure my wife knew that i would rather burn everything to the ground and go join the FFL or live in a off grid cabin in the woods then have some nasty bitch take half my shit + half my income for the rest of the life. That might seem harsh but i've all ready considered living an ascetic life and i rather shit in a bucket and wash myself with cold water then living with the humiliation of essentially becoming a slave to my ex wife. Freedom > material possessions

She will have nothing to gain from me.

it's from an early 20th c wharton novel you faggot

emphasis was on you being a tradeschooler which you obviously are judging from your reaction
130 iq part is just to additionally rustle your jimmies after you lower worth was established

>tfw Americans think their law applies to the whole world
Fairness in trial depends entirely on the court's ability to refrain from politics entirely. Wilders just can't get a fair trial, for example. He deserves one like everyone else, but that's not in line with reality.

>Taking me clean water i purchased
>Using my shelter i built or paid for
>using my resources for yours fuck up

These things have to change. Niggers will scout houses in neighborhoods by coming to the door and asking for water just to see who lives their and if you deny thme water they will attempt to sue you for shit.

I wouldn't have a problem with the water thing, in residential situations niggers ruin in. Hes a story of one situation.

>Be 17 on Summer vacation
>Mexican knocks on door
>I go to door to check
>Taco woman asks for a cup of water
>Dad sees this and says he will get it
>Dad comes back with M4 and phone
>"I can get you water, let me just call the police for trespassing though"
>Burrito coon looks distraught and confused
>"I don't need water, thank you"
>She waddles back to her van
>Dad yells "Okay, so you don't want water, come back if you get thirsty!"

i was redpilled on niggers exploiting laws that day, papa taught me how to be a white man.

>too poor to be marriage material
It's unfortunate that little girls get brainwashed into actually believing crap like this

Truth is that white women sleep around and fuck around and then wake up at 30 having done nothing and get worried while white men are either sleeping around as well or are virgins. White people are weak and can't make the personal sacrifices and commitment it takes to be successful in life and being a successful civilization. It's why immigrants dominate the West. Accept your new position.

And isn't it always funny how the only people with a problem with this are virgin white men on here? How come no women comment on this? Because there are none here, you all lament how women are out having fun and getting fucked while you jerk off your little pink dick to cuck porn. Deal with it.

>inb4 troll or bait

You have NOTHING to argue against me on. I'm 100% right.

No, I'm not a tradeschooler. A 'genius' with 130-IQ would have been smart enough to realise not to assume such things without evidence.

>muh virgins
not an argument

Are you illiterate? It's still describing the opening of the novel. That scene takes place in the late 18th century.
>marrying into poverty when you're expected to be a housewife rather than providing

>130 iq
>genius
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA you cant possibly believe this
im like one of the dumbest in my family

So does 30 year old virgin girl turn into a witch?

>tfw ur dad reads this

Feminism offers them temporary solace through the constant pursuit of pleasure and party life. Feminism CANNOT however make their biological clock stop ticking, it only provides short term means to ignore it or be in denial of it. Many women start snapping out of it by the late 20s or 30s but goddamn you're talking about some downright busted or completely unstable or incompatible women. If they were with douchebag, sociopathic dudes throughout their 20s this also seems to shape their psychology and makes them shit people

>But the particular gendered nature of 30th birthday advice was underscored when I talked to a single male friend who also turns 30 today. Unlike me, he’s actually been a bit stressed about his birthday, worrying about whether he’s achieved enough in his career, whether he should be settling down, etc. Yet when I asked him a week ago whether he had received the same advice I had, he couldn’t recall a single incident. “Probably because people think I’m beyond saving,” he half-joked.
>No, probably because people assume my male friend (who’s doing great, by the way) is fully qualified to make his own choices, whether relating to his career or his personal life. Short of committing a felony, there are few decisions he could make at 30 that would irreversibly ruin his prospects.
Jesus Christ.

no, that's misogyny.

No they ascend to the stars and become one.

my dad thinks im a dumbass and my family has always made fun of me
thats why im surprised that you call 130 iq genius

>Feminism CANNOT however make their biological clock stop ticking
nobody gives a shit
they wanted it - they got it - now they can reap its fruits

>muh feminism

Fact of the matter is that the Japanese have the same problem and DON'T have feminism. Isn't it funny how the solution to all these problems is the introduction of a black penis? Literally put a BBC in their life and they will rebound and get better and have kids. Really makes you think about it.

The man is worried not just about:
>whether he's done enough in his career to settle himself to good social standing
>whether he's done enough in terms of actively pursuing a partner to settle down with
The woman is worried:
>why hasn't anyone come along and married her

Agreed. Relationships are the same. Many people appear to forget that.

I do think people should have a right to opportunity though, but this is largely down to luck. It's up to the I individual what they do with it. When it comes to relationships though, your past actions affect the future. And who thought that being a self entitled short sighted moron who thinks they "deserve" a prince after spending years blowing strangers might put you in the "wouldn't marry" pile.

Sadly, I have a feeling this will get a lot more common in the years to come.

Most Women dont want to end gender roles, they just want have their cake and eat it too. Men are starting to wakeup to the hypocrisy of it all and marriage rates are tanking in the west as a result. Wimmyn will have to start being honest to men, and they will have choose between traditionalism with all its restrictions and benefits or egalitarianism, with all its responsibilities. They can't gave both, because men are beginning to lose their patience with modern women and they no longer wanna be taken advantages of

>thinks being born entitles you to anything
Wrong.

>muh not an argument

That is not a counter-argument.

>DON'T have feminism
>what is 1st and 2nd wave feminism
if you are one of those "feminism is ok as long as its not 3rd wave" go back to redit pronto

No, you can only be held liable if they die. So their family may sue you and rightfully so for not understanding cost analysis.

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Come on, Sup Forums, you are getting extremely sloppy.

>im surprised that you call 130 iq genius
I'm surprised you got your entire family tested for IQ since IQ tests have to be tested several times at multiple timepoints to give a slightly more accurate reading than just filling out an IQ quiz online.

How come everyone is afraid of pimping any woman's mind?

Why would i need a counter argument against your non argument?

>Most Women dont want to end gender roles
literally nobody cares
they chose feminism and to make their own decisions and responsibilties
they broke patriarchy and keep being against it

Not an argument.

You don't have to listen to them bitch about their problems you fucking abonigger