New android version steals your entire connection

reminder that Android 8.0 (Oreo) rerouts your entire network to (((Google)))


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shut up goy

google has been syncing wifi passwords for a while now m8

Every time you geniuses use a VPN, you're simply introducing another middle-man into the picture. Better hope that middle man is more trustworthy than your ISP.

>wifi passwords
I'm talking about your entire connection to everything, going to google first before it gets to the destination.

learn what vpn is

who are you talking to? I'm here posting AGAINST the forced google vpn

I know what a vpn is I just don't care

>implying I don't have a corporately registered VPS to run the first VPN layer through.

How new are you fucks?

sure you do. which is why you brought up unrelated wifi passwords?

>who are you talking to?
The opponents in my head who I frequently destroy in debates.

you're the retard claiming google is going to route all your traffic through its servers instead of specific sensitive information lmao

Who cares, Google, CIA and others have no power here. I should be on the lookout for them FSB wankers though.

google is literal CIA spyware, why are you using any of their products, srs newfag?

man I wish my phone would get updated too I want that multitasking

lol
>still doesn't understand what a VPN is
retard

>implying google doesn't give your data to FSB

Who cares. What are they going to do with the data? Sell your forum posting habits to Coke so they can develop and market Coke: weeb edition?

explicitly stated in the post you're responding to what a vpn is

now are you going to qualify your assertion that google is going to route all your traffic via their servers or keep being a dumb cunt?

thats a VPS not a VPN you uneducated fag Server != Network

you do realize that android has been spyware for years right? they sync all your data with their servers. everytime you unlock your phone it pings googles servers.

>(Oreo)

When did I assert they don't?

>you're the retard claiming google is going to route all your traffic through its servers instead of specific sensitive information lmao

>all

Holy shit you are fucking ignorant. You clearly have no idea what a VPN is. When you use a VPN, ALL of your traffic is tunneled through a remotely controlled server, and in this case, controlled by google. Please shut the fuck up and stop acting like you have any idea what you're talking about.

t. cyber security specialist for NIST

Looks like nobody is going to call me an ifag anymore

Right... is android Orea routing all your traffic through a remotely controlled server?

when it uses the VPN? yes retard, that's how a VPN works.

> claim you know shit about computers
> work for NIST, a known compromised CIA op, designed to specifically implement insecure practices into modern computing, undermining all security
> kek

Yes, because that's what a VPN is you fucking moron. How about you google some things before spouting bullshit you obviously know nothing about?

Well... That depends if you're using a split-tunnel or full-tunnel VPN. But yes, in this case it is a full-tunnel.

Why don't you simply disable WiFi assistant in your settings?

yes you moron, whenever you use the internet Google can access all content you are transmitting,
run tcpdump, whatever you see they can see

I know what a VPN is dumb cunt, your assertion that orea uses on constantly is just inane.

>filename

Goolag is up to its old botnet tricks yet again. When will people learn not to use their shit?

>trusting google to turn shit off when you want it to

thesun.co.uk/tech/4295350/did-you-know-google-has-been-secretly-recording-you-heres-how-to-find-the-creepy-audio-files-that-are-monitoring-your-conversations-every-day/

but it does. if you connect online using any means (WiFi, cellular) it will establish a VPN connection to Google. look it up.

Thanks.

When did I ever assert that it uses one constantly? I simply stated that your traffic gets routed through a remote server when you're on a VPN, because that's what happens when you use a VPN. At no point did I say anything about how frequently the VPN is on or used.

This thread is stupid.

>my job requires qualifications and certifications that it takes years to study for and earn
>yes, i must know nothing about computers

Reminder that android is open source and that you don't have to use google play services.

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Please point out the parts where it steals your data.

I was speaking to OP about this, it is his assertion, then you chimed in like a smart ass with "LOL U DONT NO WHAT A VPN IS" instead of actually paying attention to the conversation.

If you have no other point than to explain what a VPN is, cheers cunt, mission accomplished.

That artical a shit. Goto settings and disable that feature as well and it won't record shit. I have all that shit disabled on my mobile, and I check frequently because its programed to turn back on when you agree to and do certain things

>just make your own android dude
kys

Me =/= OP, I'm sorry that your autism disabled you from being able to differentiate poster IDs.

>Me =/= OP
another useful proposition, thanks

>Wah, gib me gib me gib me
>Wah i don't know what custom roms are
>wah google is forcing me to update

all NIST qualifications are invalid, considering most modern crypto algorithms are broken. Elliptic curve cryptography is proven vulnerable if you have bad RNG (most do), same with DSA. AES is backdoored by the hardware (AES-NI). Your NIST specs recommend these algorithms. Tell me why?

Hummmmm... Nope. If your phone initiates a secure connection (SSL or HTTPS), which is pretty standard these days, google won't be able to see what's in those packets unless they install a root CA on your phone or have a CA key to decrypt traffic.

Though, they can indeed see the "metadata" of the connection, ie source and destination IPs, ports and protocols

>custom roms
shit
>update
doesn't matter going forward they're all gonna run it

find Sup Forums users, and unperson them on internet

>HTTPS
>secure
hahahaha do you live under a rock?

A vpn sends everything you retarded fuck

Nigga it'sa VPN designed to allow you to connect to public wifi without worrying about people hacking your shit. If you don't like it you can turn it off.

exactly you dumb leaf, who the fuck do you think issues certificates? who runs your android phone. Google does.

>Better hope that middle man is more trustworthy than your ISP.
My ISP is a local duopoly that treats everyone like shit because they have the wires in place and the only other option is their twin; Take your pick between former telephone provider or former cable provider.

My VPN is competing on a global market and anyone can switch at anytime.

Don't extrapolate from things you don't understand. Sure this is a botnet, but this works by securing open/ public networks that are unencrypted.

In this case, googles botnet is a hell of alot better than your trap porn being transmitted unencrypted on your companies public WiFi.

If you're here and you don't have you're own private VPN server, then you're the kind of normie retard that will benefit from this.

To those still not understanding what this means. It means:
1. Google can now control what you get and what not. AKA: Censor
2. Google can now record all your internet actions
3. Google can now manipulate the traffic. Not only the "News" you now NOT get but the "News" they want you to believe.

you sound like a negroid. no wonder you don't understand shit about technology.

You guys, you misunderstood what VPN is.

VPN = virtual PRIVATE network

basically, all andriod users are inside the PRIVATE network of Googlag.

It is literally the matrix shit.

>you sound like a negroid
no argument left to make retard? stop making WRONG statements and getting BTFO

How is he wrong though?

thats what youre actually supposed to do, its simple as fuck. plus you get rid of google spying on you.

Compared to what Apple? Lol... Srs though what is an alternative?

ITT : some google employees trying to brainwash us.

Literally, google now is the most evil company in the human history.

What are we going to do about it?

>plus you get rid of google spying on you.
have you ever read CIA leaks? backdoors are in chips (Intel AMT plus others) and routers, and phones, and everything pretty much. AMT works outside of OS.

jesus fuck, how don't you understand what a VPN is.

a VPN protects you against your ISP, but it simply reroutes your traffic to a middleman. google can literally control all traffic you see. including dropping any or all connections. its that simple.

>get rid of google spying on you
More like you challenge google to find new ways to spy on you. Thats what they want

>a VPN protects you
only if the VPN is to be trusted. retard

>it won't record shit

:^)

Convince the US government to label them a public utility and prevent them from continuing their evil ways. Break the monopoly apart if needed.

show me one post where i was 'BTFO'
true but you can temporarily disable Intel AMT. you cant disable TrustZone.

Wrong in every way

who here flip phone + unregistered pocket android master race
>sturdy as fuck
>reliable
>phone is a phone
>battery lasts a week
>touch typing while watching where Im walking
>not a slave to mobile internet

read the rest of my post you fucking moron.

i said google spies on you.

Why not just turn it off?

If your argument is that they're forcing this option on people without telling them, it's pretty easy to tell when you're being routed through a VPN. It's the dumb masses fault for not being aware enough to protect themselves from jewish tricks

>you can temporarily disable Intel AMT.
lamoooooooooo only if you use a custom bios like libreboot, which is unfinished and not supported on most hardware

see

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never going to happen. fat americans believe censorship is ok if its against the 'fascists'. they don't even understand manufacturers are ripping them off by rebranding tech every gen.

Easy way to range ban all phone posters then

that's not how do you it in all the movies where big evil corporation controls everything.

No this is really nothing. Google wants your information that it can actually sell, they get everything they need from chrome.

Google aren't doing deep packet inspection here. They are pretty tight on end to end encryption because a failure on their part means a quick end to their company if private data leaks.

Google is rather mining meta-data but it gets everything it could gather from the VPN service, from chrome users anyway (the same frameworks integrate with android without chrome).

Don't chase false leads, many of legitimate things to hold google to the fire for, this is not one.

the google vpn will be banned instantly. otherwise people will post cheese pizza

its still possible, if youre willing to go far enough.

ITT: Dumbasses, its easy as fuck to check site ssl signature to know the connection is from them

>:^)
It won't. Google knows how to watch its dealings and knows that 99% of the population has know idea wtf theyre doing when they use their services and those people dont care either.
So google leaves the option to turn off the spy shit so nobody can bring a lawsuit.
Do you unironically believe they'd risk anything to know what some faggoty basement dwelling weeb is doing in its spare time? Google is pulling in unheard of amounts of data, theyll do fine without yours.

libreboot will just open other gaping holes
>trusting in some fucking freetards to be competent
those people never ever finish anything

Listen faggots!

A simple question: does this enforce VPN to google all the time?

who hands out the certificates? :^)

you still think Google is content with regular evil methods just the sake of money.

they are way beyond that.

google would keep a database of racists and give them up to the government to have us all put to death

whether or not that will actually happen is a totally different question obviously, but if you dont believe this, you are fucking naive, eric schmidt is a scum sucking commie faggot who wants nothing more than total world domination, and subversion of the will of mankind

Its pretty simple to block outbound AMT ports. I think you're confusing AMT with Intel ME

i dont use google nor microsoft spyware.

The fact that you think cyber security purely involves cryptography already tells me that this conversation is going to go nowhere if I engage. Learn what cyber security is, then come back.

They dont allow the nokia 3310 in the US

VeriSign mostly you dumbfuck

HTTPS is just HTTP over SSL/TLS you moron.
Are you saying Google can decrypt TLS messages on the fly without the CA key?

Even if they exploit the protocol or implementation bugs, most of them are time based, and require access to either source or destination servers.

Regardless, Google already own your phone and its SSL implementation. They don't need to eavesdrop the connection/traffic. It's a lot simpler to just snoop thru your phone anyways.

Not if you disable