2020 PREDICTIONS

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Democrats would have to screw up immensely to lose to Trump again.

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trump won't get reelected

Trump/Pence vs. Biden/Johnson

In three years, Trump will have won over millions of people on the fence who bought the bullshit in 2016 that he'd be a tyrant/demagogue/racist/joke-celebrity-candidate/insane/etc. Because let's face it, he definitely isn't any of those even in Sup Forums would want him to be.

He will also add many Generation Z supporters who will be able to vote for the first time in their life. They will be a "Trump Youth" like how the 1980s had a "Reagan Youth."

The only ones who'll vote for the Democrats are the screeching, histrionic, violent, race-gender-sexuality obsessed minority, who are going to be a minority in every state except ones like Massachusetts (university students and whites who always vote Democrat, will *almost* go for Trump), Vermont (university students and old hippies, will also almost go for Trump) and Hawaii (minorities, will also almost go for Trump). The only strong Democratic 'state' will be Washington D.C.

California will go red once they're forced to institute proper voter ID laws. There are millions of Republican voters in Cali, many of whom didn't bother voting in 2016 because there was no point. New York will go red because upstate and Long Island and Staten Island are already red, and will go redder. There are also many people in NYC (the ones who aren't frothing at the mouth leftists) who will realize that Trump really is pretty decent at the very least.


and I'm making this thread from the perspective of someone who lives in NYC. I know a few who are already realizing Trump is actually not as bad as they thought.

And I also know quite a few people born in 1995-1998 (considered Gen Z by some) who voted for Trump

>Minnesota goes republican
>Michigan and Wisconsin stay republican
>Ohio goes dem

Top kek leaf, Trump won Ohio by like 10%, but won Michigan by like 20k votes. Your scenario is literally unbelievable.

It's like way too early to make 2020 predictions that aren't glorified fanfiction.

I don't believe this map is realistic UNLESS the democraps literally split their ticket again.

If the progressives and the libtard moderates finally split aside and another third party grows from their side, then its pretty much ogre.

It's versus Joe Biden and The Rock, I think they'll do good but won't win
May have made some mistakes tho

>Oregon just passed state-funded abortion for all, kinda doubt they will support any GOP candidate. Too many gibs and cucks have arrived in Portland to outnumber the normal American voter. Hasn't really been close since Bush's 2000 election I think.
>Nevada has a fuck ton of Mexicans, but possible.
>Virginia has a fuck ton of leftists near the D.C. suburbs, and virtually every minority has entered NoVa, but may be possible.
>Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida could all be repeats if Trump does well with the economy and foreign policy.
>Trump was competitive in Minnesota, New Hampshire, and Maine at large, I can buy these given the right opponent and right record.
>Arizona, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, Iowa are all meme-y Democrat talking points for being at-risk in my opinion.

WI, MI, PA, NH, ME, AZ, FL, NC red.
CO close. VA still a 4% margin.

Wow dude, you are really pessimistic about New Jersey.

For NJ to flip, NM would have to flip first.

the entire globe is now an american flag the way trump is going on lol

pretty much this

you realize that there aren't any illegal immigrants voting?

it has been proven illegals have voted,if 1 can then millions can

trump will fix that,i hope he says illegals who vote will be found and have ice at the booths

Colorado, New Mexico, and New Hampshire are more likely

You realize illegals have been proven to vote, right?

Once we make it clear that Biden is a pedophile it would be easy as fuck

They have more of an demographic effect than an electoral one.

Fuck, I want a red Colorado so badly.

It is literally Trump's first year in office. Assuming he doesn't abandon the voter base that put him there, he doesn't have much farther he can fall from the left but everything to gain. He might pass a few bills here and there that get lefty-centrists on board.
Meanwhile blm, antifa etc keep beating old people, protesting free speech, throwing urine in cops faces and shitting up society in general.
As far as his Charlottsville comments, he gained some points with everyone not in a hysteria by calling out the hate and bigotry on both sides, which most people recognize exist. I don't think he's lost any votes he otherwise had because of it.
Unless a 3rd party emerges, or the dnc successfully convinces people that its not affiliated with blm and antifa in any way, I don't see how Trump could lose.

Trump was ahead in the polls several times. There are a bunch of moderate cuckservatives left in the state that could go for Trump in 2020.

Virginia and Colorado have become blue states. Metro Denver and NoVa are too powerful.

Next go around, if Trump is able to enact part of his agenda and Dems continue with FUCK WHITEY (they will), Trump can win all the states he won before, and possibly add Nevada, New Hampshire, and Maine.

There are four types of traditional (or at least, last few cycles) Democratic strongholds.
1. States with very high racial or demographic minorities (gays, etc.) - Parts of California, inner cities like Detroit with gibs, D.C., Hispanic areas in the Southwest, Hawaii.
2. Union states in the Great Lakes - Trump has stolen most of this advantage.
3. University/Leftist/Cucky areas - Think parts of the New England and Pacific Northwest, the dudeweeds in Denver, parts of Minnesota.
4. Areas with large government intervention - Think Northern Virginia and Maryland, certain subsidy farms areas, around reservations, any place with a well-stocked welfare office.

-There are overlaps here, but here's the key:
Fight globalism, #2 is gone for Democrats.
-Capture the young voters, and consider state-by-state weed policy, and #3 should be competitive.
-Neocons and govt cucks in #4 are nearly impenetrable, so probably can't do much there.
-Trump did surprisingly well with Hispanic voters, remind people constantly there is a difference between illegal and legal and the natural pride of some Texas or Florida Hispanics will cause them to vote against the recently border jumping Guatemalans, Southern Mexicans, El Salvadorians, etc. Also immigration really does need to be enforced. Blacks are lost cause for foreseeable future, Pres Johnson shackled them to the government matrix. So #1 is unlikely to die until identity politics do.

i fucking wish, god i want this

No screw up required. If GDP growth is 3% or better, he'll win in a landslide.

There's more than Denver than Colorado.

My only concern in 2020 is some cuckservative faggot running third party and siphoning votes from Trump. McMuffin tried that shit in 2016 but he was too late. Hopefully the GOP can put a stop to any of that nonsense.

Yeah they come in illegally and shit out kids at an alarming rate without contribute meaningful skills or a tax contribution. Therefore the collapse social services, depress areas already financially burdened with poor blacks and few whites, and create an army of Democratic (ie, welfare) voters for the next generation.

It is time to end birth right citizenship. Fuck "we are all immigrants". None of our allies (England, France, Germany, Australia, list goes on) still use birthright citizen. One parent at least had to be a citizen.

Metro Denver (Boulder, Broomfield, Arapahoe counties) anchor the population though, and vote 70-30 Dem. Aspen and La Plata are also elitist Dem strongholds.

>Those mountain counties

fuck.

I don't think that shit is gonna fly. McMullin could've flipped Utah if cuckservatives really hated him that much, but they still voted for him. Now, McMullin is deep in debt and I don't think any cuckservative will gain traction this time around.

Macron telling the truth and shit lol.

This. Trump's campaign is finally at it's end.

I didn't mean McMuffin specifically. There are other cuckservatives who could try to run third party. Kasich is the most likely one, he could get serious funding from the big Republican donors who don't like Trump.

So why do liberals say voter ID's are racist? What's the angle they're pushing that it's racist?

My honest guess is that he'll be primaried by 2018 and even if some jewish cunt tries his jewish tricks, it won't affect the outcome of the election.

Man, why are muslims so barbaric. We really need to keep women in line.

>expecting logic from progressives
come on, user

After 2018 rolls around, I think it'll be pretty easy to get the legislation he needs passed done. The Senate is a fucking shoo-in, and Pelosi's said she's not worried about the House in 2018 (sounds familiar, right?), after that, the base will be satisfied

its not always easy to get an ID for poor people and black people are poor. the correct solution is to require ID but make IDs easy and free to get

We should know minorities are too poor, lazy and incompetent to do something as basic as getting an ID so it's racist for us to expect them to have one,

because blacks and mexicans are somehow physically or financially incapable of spending $15 at the dmv for an ID.

Somehow, saying that blacks and mexicans are either too fucking stupid or irresponsible with money to visit the dmv and pay $15 to get an ID isn't racist, but wanting them to have one because we want them to be treated as equals is racist.

I don't know..... Seems like bullshit, doesn't it?

>the correct solution is to require ID but make IDs easy and free to get
Even when society sets things up to be as easy as possible for them, they still throw it back in our faces, say we're "racist" and demand more.

It's like pitching a ball to a fat little kid really nice and slow, so he can't possibly miss it, yet he continues missing and then blames the pitcher.

How are IDs difficult and expensive to get?

I predict that California will be worth 500 votes and the left will act like it's not an issue.

Colorado is going red. Their voter rolls just got purged of all the illegals and dead people. 150k voters "dropped out" in a week.

Pot's legal AND they're a red state?

I might move there

Does the 2020 census factor into 2020 electoral college, or is it used for 2024/2028 elections?
Texas, NC, FL, and Colorado have surely grown. Rust Belt and Northeast should be losing seats.

You're delusional. Trump's approval rating is 30% and it's only 6 months in. If he runs again Republicans would be lucky to get 100 electoral votes. If he doesn't run again, they're still going to have an awfully hard time disassociating themselves from his bad image. No way Republicans win next year.

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Weed is legal in lots of other states so every stoner retard in the country isn't moving to Colorado now.

illegals probably voted for weed, unfortunately, CO could go backwards in a few elections

But Colorado is the only place that isn't a commie shit hole I willing to live in besides Maine.

Mark my words - Gen Z will be a Republican generation. Most of their parents are Gen X, who formed most of the people who put the Republicans in power during Reagan and later the Bush administration, and much like them they share a similar development history to their parents. Economic crisis as part of their childhood and adolescence, both parents working a lot; most of them don't have helicopter parents like the Millenials, with the great majority granting their children a high degree of autonomy, growing up in a world where someone you know could be sent to fight halfway across the globe for a war for a sphere of influence...

It's a turnaround for sure, they might even be surprisingly libertarian. The Republicans need to seize the moral high ground, however, and that's going to be difficult.

The leaf is right. Of course they are Democrats though. They'll need some more time to devolve and then try to rebuild. If the Democrats can manage to run a competent and likable candidate in 2020 who isn't too far left, at this pace Trump shouldn't stand a chance.

But does it outweigh the number of libs who stayed home because they thought Hillary had it/liked Bernie, as well as the Stein voters?

This election will have every leftie lib turn out for the Dems since the unthinkable happened with Trump winning.

If I was Trump I'd be nailing down Florida/Pennsylvania/Arizona as hard as I can since he still should comfortably have the rust belt most likely.

Who do I gotta kill to make this a guarantee

Weren't those the same polls that said Hillary would win in a landslide?

Fuck off corrupt the record cum dumpster

Lumpy Dumpy Trumpfuck Von Fuckface, if he even lasts until 2020, will be fucking BURIED. Many of his supporters even regret voting for him and let's not even talk about swing voters who got suckered into voting for him.

VOTER ID LAWS

Blue stranglehold states are deflecting and stalling investigation on all fronts. It's only a matter of time before the scams are all blown wide open.

>leaf

I feel that if Sessions bends the knee and lets Trump endorse legalization, then he can get a foothold in Colorado
Congressional elections next year don't look too pretty for Dems. Senate's going to have like 5 blue senators in red states, plus some new blood in traditional blue states (Shiva in Mass). As for the House, it may be competitive, but unless they have a clear message, they're not gong to stand a chance. Even with a 2006-esque voting pattern the right would still have the house just because of geographics.

But Kasich was made into a big joke by the media since he only stayed in his state basically and just took pictures of himself gorging on fast food.

He's no looker as well.

You are fucking racist. Don't bitch about being called racist when you're fucking racist. The only people who've called for voter IDs in government are assholes who did it EXPLICITLY for racist reasons. Fucking NC already got its fucking hand slapped for this. The majority is NOT in your favor. Rightists have to cheat as hard as they can for decades to win, then like good little soviet propagandists, blame the other side for doing what YOU assholes do.

Yeah, Gen Z will definitely swing some things around, the patterns definitely show more popularity among third parties, I'm still not fully convinced of the based gen Z meme. I would be pleasantly surprised though.

This is best case scenario for Trump vs whoever. I think that NH, CO and WI are probably going to stay blue, but the others I think he has a real shot of flipping. I don't see him losing any of the states he got in 2016.

gave me a good laugh user

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You missed the Maine district and the non-continental states. This seems like a fair map, we might get Maine at large to vote for Trump if voter ID is passed.

>liberals are so disillusioned after 2018 mid-terms they stay the fuck home

I think that result would lead to on-air suicides at MSNBC and CNN.

Gen Z is already showing strong signs of being very much a right-wing generation, even if not a conservative one so to speak. Brazil's growing libertarian population being a big example of the rise of right-wing voters in other countrues in the younger demographics - there are more libertarians there than in any other part of the world, and they're young. This coming from Brazil, a country which not long ago was essentially a socialist country.

Gen Z's a turnaround economically and in their view towards the government - not as much socially. Depending on how much Republicans seize a moral high ground, Gen Z might be an extremely important generation.

I also compeltely forgot to fill in Alaska and Hawaii, kek. Oh well we know what they would be anyway.

Gen Z is easily influenced and all young votes are on tone rather than policy or substance.

Whichever side that tries to "own" Gen Z more will lose with Gen Z. Whichever side that ignores Gen Z will lose with Gen Z.
The Democrat tendency to come out and say things like "You're With Us!" is what repels the Gen Z. Watch Trump rhetoric closely as the time approaches. If all he says is something like "All the young people like me" he'll be failing in the Gen Z catagory. If he comes out with a motivational rally like "All these swamp monsters don't understand you, they fear you! They're afraid that if they just step out your way and let you be free, they won't be relevant anymore!" he'll crush it.

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Listen, hugbox redditors. Not everyone who disagrees with you is deep into psyops or a shill. Some people just disagree. For instance, me.

Rural white voter here. Voting for Trump was possibly the biggest mistake of my life. Probably the worst president we've had in the last 500 years. We must impeach him now and lock up his most fervent supporters. The travel ban is racist and the white house is literally full of islamophobic texts and art. Hate can only be defeated by destroying it from the top down.

On top of his blatant racism, now he is literally destroying the planet earth and ruining young and promising female entertainers' lives. What about our children? Do the right thing, fellow rural white voters. Call your senator or congressman and set things right.

I honestly can't tell anymore which posters are shills, and which are just bait.

But seriously, we can't let him get hsi hands on the nuclear codes

>Winning Ohio
>Not winning election
Go home.

>last 500 years
Bait detected.
>What about our children?
Cuck detected.

Let's talk about a future reality: an economic downturn. We're due. Every market is overstretched, oversaturated, overinvested. The tech bubble will burst. Housing prices will plummet. Banks will fall. People will lose their jobs. People will lose their homes.

This will happen within Trump's presidency, guaranteed. The lower and middle class, that is 97% of this country, will be squeezed out of lives and their wealth. The rich will get richer, the poor will be dirt.

It's the economy, stupid.

Trump will get slaughtered in the next election.

He won't get the nomination.

He will hamfist his way out of a job he already has by deflecting blame and not doing anything.

I can definitely see why Trump would be popular with humor liking teenagers, it's just that afterwards I'm not sure what would happen with the right wing youth advantage. I don't see Warren or Biden getting that type of advantage at all, and Bernie already lost his chance (thank God), so yeah I see Trump having an advantage, but not other Republicans. Maybe if he's the start of a new right wing in the US full of fucking madmen then they'll keep the advantage.

Scenario: GOP doesn't nominate Trump for re-election, but he runs anyway on an independent, modified ticket.

>Delusion
Drumpf is currently the least popular "president" in history, and the only people who still support him are his base of Stockholm syndrome-stricken rednecks and a handful of literal Nazis. Gum on the bottom of a shoe could beat Drumpf in 2020 at this rate.

Lol fucking Maine.

Depends on Trump's actions in the next three years.

Hahahahaha. Utah HATES Trump.

I love how retarded rightists think "drain the swamp" just means fascism, not what he actually said which is getting rid of lobbyists and bankers, etc. which he wow somehow just filled his cabinet with.

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My hope is that the GOPe are really not stupid enough to pull a backwards Ross Perot. The party would be done for.

Your candidate lost a rigged election and you're faggots are still strutting around like she won in a 50 state landslide

Oh I'm sorry, I mean 60-state landslide. Wouldn't want to exclude those extra ten states your "genius" president discovered.

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People care more about jobs than anything else desu. People are fine with backdoor dealings and corruption as long as their quality of life isn't negatively impacted.

You faggots still don't get it, the right doesn't view people from a business background with suspicion, we don't think making money is bad. People who've proven themselves in the private sector clearly have competence AND are free from many of the Washington ties that corrupt career politicians.

>Rural white voter here. Voting for Trump was possibly the biggest mistake of my life. Probably the worst president we've had in the last 500 years.

>People are fine with backdoor dealings and corruption as long as their quality of life isn't negatively impacted.

And I wished the DC turdfest didn't have an effect on the rest of us, but I'm too cynical to believe that. As an example, just look at Obama's (Un)Affordable Care Act. A corrupt deal that cost Americans billions. If I thought it would placate their greed, I would support giving Congress a $10 million per year salary if they'd clean up their fucking mess. Sadly, I doubt even a hundred times that amount wouldn't be enough.