So what happens after death Sup Forums?

So what happens after death Sup Forums?
Heaven? Oblivion?
We haven't had an intellectual thread like this for a while
Let's discuss!

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Nobody actually knows

>intellectual
>0 evidence for what occurs after death from which to form an argument
good start, retard

I think there's probably some weird afterlife, but I hope there's nothing. I'd hate to have any kind of consciousness for all of eternity

>So what happens after death Sup Forums?
m8, you aren't even alive right now. Just enjoy the ride... until.

It's when you're Being-towards-death, as Heidegger said, that you can actually reflect on life. Instead of always projecting your dasein towards some distant horizon, you see contemplate the endpoint and give scale to what has come before. That's about as useful as death or thinking about it can be. We don't know a priori what happens and won't be able to change it regardless. Enjoy your brief moment of cognition while you can and don't worry about the metaphysical.

>So what happens after death Sup Forums?
the lords of Karma will try to guilt shame you to return back to Earth to pay for your sins, tuss continuing the circle of reincarnation. you will stay a little in heaven than they will tell you you have to go back. also look up when you die, don't go into the light, some anons said that on /fringe/. anyway fuck the demiurge and the archons

>Heidegger
drop that brainlet, read Evola

Read him. Overrated.

there is no life without death and that is all i know

we must leave a legacy and that is all i know

exactly what happened before life, your brain dies so does your brain chemistry. your existence will return from whence it came - nowhere. without brain chemistry there is no individual sentience.

>So what happens after death
Decomposition.
>Heaven
Of course not, that's stupid.
Incorrect, everyone knows. Some like to pretend they think otherwise but they know the truth.

Anyone know what kind of mushroom this is?

We merge back into God.

If God wants to, he keeps us in the celestial court where generations of people are jamming.

Or he could toss us to the back of the line and we go through 6.4 million lives until we finally get the human one, which some of us waste here on Sup Forums.

It's not that humans are lucky, I don't think, it's just that our number came up and here we are. Point is it's all God's will anyway.

Why don't you off yourself and tell us tomorrow?

Dunno, but I wouldn't eat it. Looks mean.

It's a delicious one. Eat up friend

Because, that would be very painful

You blackout and don't wake up.

I don't believe in God, and I'm not some "spiritual" lefty cunt who eats kale and talks about chakras, but it is hard to wrap my head around the idea that a consciousness isn't metaphysical.
Sometimes I rationalize it as being something our minds just can't comprehend, similar to infinity or absolute nothingness, but sometimes I just can't shake the feeling that there's something just beyond my perception.

A couple options:

1. Non-existence
2. Reincarnation as a human
3. Reincarnation as a being higher up than humans (maybe even a god)

Pseudoscience for niggers

THIS.

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This Universe is one of an infinite number of Universes. The flesh decays but you live on.

>it is hard to wrap my head around the idea that a consciousness isn't metaphysical.
Why? Consciousness is very clearly produced by the brain.
Have you played 999?
What about lower reincarnation?

Typical nigger response to what they can't understand. KYS

the hall of judgement of Osiris, by egyptians, also look up the Eleusinian mysteries and the story of Persephone descending in the material realm

>What about lower reincarnation?
Nope. You repeat the same lesson over again until you learn it, or until you run out of coins and the game ends.

Your current conscience is trash, it's worthless, it's disposable. It hasn't existed for billions of years and will only exist for a microscopic fraction of time, then it goes away for eternity.
Maybe you will have experiences and/or consciousness but it will be nothing you've known before.

I grew up Mormon and, as I'm sure you all know, number 3 is what I was taught.
Being a God just sounds so boring and depressing. Like a game of sims that you can only control for the first hour or so.
Oh sure, there's miracles and stuff in the Bible, but I can't help but think that if we become Gods, we also have some kind of rules we have to abide by that would prevent us from doing literally whatever we wanted.
That and watching humanity or something else form, live, and die for literally all eternity sounds unfathomably depressing and boring.

It's not that I can't understand it, it's that my bias as a human fucks up my judgement and gives me doubts.

Parce que votre mère serait triste si je n'étais pas là pour lui donner une gifle sur la crosse et une creampie.

>So BURP yeah Morty BELCH you're like like worthless

Judgement by God.

Level 1: Body created of mater.
Level 2: Consciousness housed in body, creates sense of self that develops until bodily death.
Level 3: Body perishes, but self persists, further developing beyond the confines of the body and advancing to higher, supernal levels of awareness and existence.

An interesting take on reincarnation. In your view of reincarnation only humans have souls? Is achieving a higher form the goal?
>it's that my bias as a human fucks up my judgement and gives me doubts.
Hm, that's odd. It seems hard to doubt clear truth.
You should still play 999, its good shit.

You are put on hiatus until time is rewound

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Even worse? Omniscience
If I was a god, I'd give it up
The MOMENT you think of doing something, you would know the result immediately, thus dissuading you from doing anything

Hell, this world is probably a thought in God's head, he already knows how it ends, how it goes, due to that there's no universe created and this is probably the thought itself, projected into the void in a material form

>wahh time is big so I'm meaningless

Time is a creation of the mind

Nothing, and that's the best possible thing, eternal punishment and reward would get boring very quickly.

Your perception is but time itself is not.

What's wrong with going towards the light?

Since the universe is infinite you keep getting created over and over again through odds and chance. Hell is making the same painful mistakes over and over again.

Existence is very strange
It's all dependent on the movement of atoms, like a pattern bro

That pattern is your life it's like a digital signature
You bank it and you can play around with it
Like a toy or a thing you built with Legos and mount in your prison

Cattle die,
kinsmen die
you yourself die;
I know one thing
which never dies:
the judgment of a dead man's deeds.

-Ancient Norse poem

Existence is bound by your brain chemistry, unfortunately.

Being unconscious is a real state and it reflects how meaningless your individual experience is.

Forgetfulness is a constant reminder of the void that is forever defeating any sense of realization into anything beyond temporary stimulation

Hopefully nothing; life after death scares me more than just fading into the abyss.

I'm just going by what nature shows us, life is expendable, and by extension consciousness is also expendable. That's partially why humans believe in god,the thought of nothing is too much to bare. Nature also shows us that it recycles and re-uses in a cycle of life. I don't see a tree and me as two completely different things, we are both living organisms that experience life, we're hard wired genetically to understand the world around us in a different way a tree or butterfly does. i see consciousness as a derivative of experiences. Just because a butterfly doesn't display a higher level of consciousness doesn't mean that it doesn't have experiences.

Until you start applying the very real and very strange nature of quantum mechanics, super position and the rather strange nature of reality being holographic in nature.

Quite literally, if it's not observed, the universe doesn't actually exist in any manifest sense. Which actually comes first: the observer, the observed or the observation?

looks like a type of ink cap mushroom.

There is no suffering without the flesh

You live
Brothers you live

The mind is trash, you can exist without it

your consciousness splinters and shifts into whatever eats your corpse, after digestion your particles become part of the conscious gestalt of that creature's nervous system
first you will be bugs, then whatever eats those bugs, and eventually you will work your way up the foodchain and ultimately inhabit a human form again
after a few tens of thousands of years you might even get to be a Rothschild by chance
there's even a good chance you only became conscious in your current host body a few hours ago. the host body you inhabit ate some food today that contained particles from your previous body, and you incorrectly believe you've always been in this body because you have access to the host's memories and you are confused into thinking they are your own

Same as before birth.

Trust me, I can make you suffer after removing all your flesh.

with the way this world is I'm pretty sure it's like the afterlife scenes in beeteljuice.

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Fuck it, this is all a computer simulation on some 40yr old's laptop in his mom's basement and RAM is running low from all the open porn videos. The universe is about to end.

>the thought of nothing is too much to bare

Yes, Peter Zappffe says something along this line. Sapient life is an evolutionary misstep. A biological paradox. Humans have an overly complex brain which allows for self-reflection, self-awareness, and thoughts which reveal our mortal and insignificant nature compared to the universe. A human being's brain is analogous to a deer which is born with over-sized antlers, unable to keep its head up and survive.

The best way to function is to artificially lower our consciousness to that of a dog. Keep your thoughts solely on the present, with no future or past in mind.

observation is bound by the senses and limited human understanding, the universe is not dependent on external anything to exist or not exist.

Our human observation holds no weight on anything except our own grasp of reality. Humans are bound by their biological nature for social interaction, which is why solitary confinement is pure torture. The human's need for complexity and communication is godlike and I believe it is why we are quite literally God's on this planet. However, it serves to defeat us in the end when life as we know it is void of complexity and we are the end-game of existence. Our quest for understanding and connection with a power greater than ourselves will never come to fruition because we are the greatest power and to the greatest power, finality is crushing.

Life

who cares lmao
if god is real the first thing im doing is murdering him

>What doth life?

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i dont like that picture
theres only 2 options:
>become a pussy
>become a retard

There is no way to prove the existence of God, as a firmly rational proof would negate the need for faith and by extension, free will, as only a lunatic would continue to disbelieve.

With this in mind, one should recognize that the being who wrote the rules of rationality is hardly bound to be constrained by them and therefore we should only trust rationality insomuch as it teaches us about the nature of God as any creation tells us about the nature of its creator.

To truly find faith in God, we must take the first step in faith, and then have our faith be strengthened by the movements of God in our lives and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

You wake up in your VR cell and remember that you are actually an ayy and were just playing a game. You look at your pathetic score, sigh, and start over.

>Our human observation holds no weight on anything except our own grasp of reality.

Except repeatable, demonstrable science shows otherwise. Unless you are going to simply metaphysically categorize even scientific observation as being subject to your notion that it holds no weight, in which case you're throwing out Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

Oddly enough though, your notion of reality is potentially every bit as valid in a universe built on a substrate of quantum mechanics. This still doesn't answer the question: which came first, the observer, the observed or the observation. Put another way: until I saw your post, did you actually exist?

nothing until the universe ends, then maybe something

I like the way you think. :)

after all, in my humble opinion, stimulating the mind and entertaining thought is the only real fruitful endeavor.

If consciousness is something that exists beyond the physical body (and all evidence into the matter has proven that's not the case), then there is a possibility that it is recycled into another physical form (various reincarnations).

If that case is also true, then there is the case that something exists responsible for the creation/destruction/overseeing of consciousness. Thus you could make the case for Gods etc.

However we can't even prove the first stage (that consciousness exists separate from the physical body), therefore anything more than death being a state of eternal sleep is pure speculation.

Where did you take this from?

my drug rattled brain

I believe you experience a period of void and unconsciousness, then incrementally regain a level of disembodied consciousness, ramping up into total knowledge of everything in the universe. Then your memory is erased and you reincarnate into a new body and live another life. Don't ask me why this is what I believe, I have no real proof, just my own personal experience of life and thought.

What happens after dead? Peace.

I forgot that Xavier renegade angel even existed.

We return to the source. We contemplate everything we did during our time here: all the people that we loved, all the people we hurt, all of the kind and hurtful things that we did to others, the impact we had on others, for better or worse.

We contemplate all of this and determine what lessons we learned during our time on earth. We stay in the source with friends and family until we decide to reincarnate again.

Nobody is forced to reincarnate. It is always by choice.

If you managed to become alive once, you'd think it would happen again eventually.

Maybe in a distant future someone will resurrect you. Or maybe whatever circumstances led to your consciousness will arise again naturally.

The idea that forgetfulness is a testament to the earthly nature of our consciousness is b-beautiful. Though the real point of faith is living a better, calmer, more constructive and linear life, not proving anything beyond. So I'd stick with it anyway

I'm a theoretical physicist driven mad by mTheory modeling.

God spoke to me and it looked like this:

section .data
msg db "KeK"

section .text
global _start
_start:
mov rax, 1
mov rdi, 1
mov rsi, msg
mov rdx, 13
syscall
mov rax, 60
mov rdi, 0
syscall

The little innocent white ones are almost always the bad ones. Is this significant?

Cessation of existence, you are an arrangement of neurons in your cerebrum so once those neurons stop working you are gone forever.

I hope nothing. I don't want anything else. This strange and pointless existence is enough for me. I was born and get to check thing out for a while and experience life, and then I'm out.

oblivion, but hey, at least u cant care about it, ur dead

>In your view of reincarnation only humans have souls?
Nope. We start out at the bottom and work our way up to human, then past human. The goal is to evolve until we are in perfect harmony with the source of creation.

you come back

I love your work, Terry

That's a death cap mushroom also known as destroying angel. It's an aminita mushroom.

you find out that all this was just a video game, and it only lasted 1 second in the actual real world, which is awesome.

This was just to make you appreciate having it all again, which you got bored of after a while.

Don't you have some place where you can bring mushrooms and they analize it and tell you if it's dangerous? We have them here and they're great

I dropped an r but that's why the picture is labeled as such.

According to science, the key to understanding the truth behind the observable is to know whether we're observing something at all, and whether we're observing it correctly.

If I told you that John Smith knows that he exists, is that enough for you to believe that he exists? No; you need to be able to observe him for yourself, therefore his existence is dependent on whether he can be observed, just like what so many people say about God.

But you... You KNOW that you exist; everything within your reality is more questionable than your own existence. John Smith knows that he exists, therefore he disregards observation. He doesn't need to observe that he exists; he doesn't need to know that his observation is accurate; he doesn't need to measure; he KNOWS that he exists.

Science prioritizes the cause over the effect, because the effect alone has no predictive capabilities.
But if you say "I know I exist", you are prioritizing the effect over the cause.

You internalize the idea that you exist and that the universe only exists for YOU to exist, but you cognitively try to deny that.

The truth is, whether or not "I" am born in this universe or exist in this universe", I know that I exist; and whether I die in this universe, I know that "I" will exist, because I exist and a reality needs to exist that supports my existence.

The soul is an eternal fish that jumps into a river that will eventually end or dry up, but the eternal fish will always swim.

Happens whatever you believe will happen.
You are a christian and you believe you don't deserve heaven? Then you go to hell.
You believe in reincarnation? You reincarnate.
You believe in nothing? Oblivion.

Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification or immediately, -- or immediate and everlasting damnation.

At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.

No, but I worked with him at CERN. His contributions are largely around standard model. I deal with mTheory (string).

^This mofo knows what's up.

Did you ever have something awesome when you were a child, like your favourite game system

and when you'd wake up from sleeping and dreaming, you'd remember you have that thing, and that made you feel great, and you'd get up and play with it again

That's what this is, it's the forgetting, the absence of the awesomeness, the opposite of awesomeness, which makes the return to awesomeness even more awesome

I choose to follow the buddhists, who say that the "ego", the self, is disconnected from the body. My body may die, my brain may stop moving electricity, but I will live, because I do not exist in this world, my body does, and while my body is animated by me, it is not me

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Terry Davis is the epitome of existence only to serve one's own stimulation and one's own individual reality. He is schizophrenic. His mind is atypical from the normal, yet he holds talent above the normal man. One can argue, though that his talent is a form of mental "retard strength" since most of his work is based on building something from the ground up through pure "divine calling" where no sane man would attempt to do so.

You could compare it to someone building a house out of toothpicks, sure it's impressive, but why?

You repeat your life over and over and over and over, each having a different outcome.

ping pong...becaue you r a fucking retarded you will end on the pacman moon instead of going out of thi flat earth dome prision and then the moon being brainwash you and the moon puts you back in the game in another mother womb ...... yeah this is real if you know about soul crystalization

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