If Germany and Russia form an economic union together, would they be literally unstoppable? They already have a pipeline that bypasses Poland and Ukraine, if they further strengthened their economic ties, they would pretty much become an unstoppable superpower and could split eastern europe up between them.
Why hasn't it happened already? Is it because Merkel's CDU is too Russophobic? Is it something only an SPD Chancellor like Schroeder could pull off?
Since the general public is left, they are all against alliging with Putin, eventhough he geopoliticaly as if not even abit more important then the US.
Instead all we have are sanctions that only hit small people like farmers (on both sides) which in turn only blame the other government instead of their own.
sanction? really, simens selling their products on Crimea? nord stream II ? sanctions are not 4 Germans mate
>form an economic union
you mean getting cheap resources from russia bc there is nothing more to get from these badlands
Iirc there are several agricultural sanctions against Russia cause muh Krim. Some econimical aswell I think.
but all this does is making Russia look more into the direction of China instead of us. Something which is not beneficial for us, obviously.
>thread just started but whining Poles are already there
Maybe if you would not be such faggots and don't disturb our relations for centuries you would have nothing to worry about?
Germany is vassal state now and the union isn't possible until great German nation liberate itself.
>build US rocket shield facilities in Poland
>Germany and Russia are whining
gee
Oh i see how it is. Splitting the commonwealth countries again, you faggots never learn.
Poland its time, you know what to do. Initiate the plan "plumbers revenge".
Well, cheap resources is all Germany really need, always did. Plus Russia is still a pretty decent sized consumer market for German products.
Do you think Germans would rather like Russia buy chink stuff or theirs?
ok, but thats not an economic union. its a colonial relationship
I thought Die Linke would be very pro-Putin? Schroeder was pro-Putin as well, I would have thought it's the CDU/CSU that's anti-Putin.
The burger overlord won't allow it
the russia should be sanctioned until it degrades to a level lower than the shithole it currently is, then invaded and genocided.
>its a colonial relationship
Just like any other relationship with Germany.
The Jews would never allow this.
Dude, but Putin is left as well
Just in case you didn't know: he is also pretty Germanophilic which is pretty rare among our elites who are usually Franco/Anglophilic
So I hope we don't lose this great chance desu because the next president could pop up with eternal le France is our main partner in Europe hurr durr
Because Germany is busy destroying itself a third time around, and lets not kid ourself that its only mamma Merkle to blame
Purpose of NATO:
ROME (Reuters) - The first secretary-general of NATO, Lord Ismay, once said the Western defense alliance was created "to keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down".
>Russia
>Germany
>Not fucking up
not if you suck money from them
Sure. Wait until they want their money back and they turn your country into another Greece.
holy alliance 2.0?
That's not going to work, memehead
I love how china has got her shit together. This century will be theirs.
>what is wwII victim card and how to play it?
you know nothing about polish eternal jew
nobody respects a victim, its like begging to be abused
>germany gets to loud about critisism on current polish gov
>suddenly in Poland idea to collect war reparations we have never got present itself
>germany gets quit
yeah, it always works. ask jews
>nothing more to get from these badlands
bloomberg.com
kurwa yourself
>ask jews
Jews have the propaganda and the support from all over the world.
Nobody cares about Poles, especially now that people see you as the Neo-Nazis.
germany own us circa 500-1000 billions as war reparations. If they try to do something stupid with subsidies we will claim it. So either we get it from EU (you including) or all from Germany. So I sleep tight and worry not
someone can take pity on a victim but will never respect them and when things actually get tough and their interests are at stake they will drop the victim parasite like that and go find someone actually strong to help them (like russia who will then pulverize you)
And. RF GMO free.
No Monsanto (satan) : ( another reason corporates hate Putin)
>If they try to do something stupid with subsidies we will claim it.
Isn't this what Greece too was trying to do?
Anyone can form a union with anyone except niggers and they'd be powerful. The problem is when Jews want to play along.
You could have, let's say, Sweden and China team up on something and be kickass, but somewhere down the line, Jews would cause a problem.
>RF GMO free.
How GMO free is Straya?
greeks are on germany leash. they can do shit. we really didnt get money after the war that germany owned us.
yeah we cry everytime on the way to the bank to cash in sweet free euro check
>Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth: Reunited but still full of shit
Look up the term "Amalek" and the name "Chaim Sonnenfeld". Jews set about the extermination of Germans and Anglos fell in line. Some self-destruction that is, where one country takes the world on twice and lives each time despite promised genocide. What is true is that there are now many who have succumbed to the propaganda, but don't be quite so quick to write us off.
I can't even be mad at you Poles, you're doing the smart thing. But in fairness - Greece's victim cards did not exactly do them much good either.
Not unstoppable, but a lot safer and significantly bigger/stronger than America. There's even some video going around somewhere where some important US Jew lays out that the whole purpose of their influence on Merkel's government is to deny Russia the potential chance of making Germany an ally which would after all be best for both of us. I still kind of hope the burgers pull their kike infection and just ally both of us.
I dont understand.
Why SHOULDNT the polaks be angry?
Do you see the map OP posted?
The EU jews are blatantly evading half of europe with their pipelines, but are still smug enough to demand "solidarity" with refugees and other bullshit.
So, tell me, why SHOULDNT the polaks be pissed off?
and, as far as i can see, its perfectly in polak rights to demand war reparations.
why are you faggots so butthurt?
>Well, cheap resources is all Germany really need, always did. Plus Russia is still a pretty decent sized consumer market for German products.
>Do you think Germans would rather like Russia buy chink stuff or theirs?
Poland has about the same level of hard power as Germany.
Also what would the Krauts get out of this that they don't
Literally every single Eastern EU country is richer than Russia in a year or two, has a better consumer base for German exports and is cooperative.
>No Monsanto
But they legally work here. Hybrids n sheit, you know.
Why would it be best ?
German primacy in Europe and the fact you're the most respected country on Earth will not last through an alliance with an aggressive dictatorship that's like, what, a third of your GDP ?
The only reasons Krauts built up such incredible soft power are trans-national institutions and multilateralism, respecting human rights and being friendly with a lot of countries to export to.
Plus Germans are too cucked to be aggressive again, and the only purpose of such an alliance would be aggression.
Increasing pressure to use GMO
Lots of chemical use.
Roundup/ glyphosate
Incidents of farm A using GMO and then contaminating farm b nearby.
I fear they will introduce GMO I I to Ukraine, which can "escape" into RF.
Nasty stuff
>we really didnt get money after the war that germany owned us.
lying bastard
you got a big piece of German territory
WHATMOREDOYOUWANT?
t. doesn't understand geopolitics
Russia and Germany should rule over Europe together!
Let's kick polands ass again.
>Let's kick polands ass again.
2017 Polish army could fuck yours up.
Especially after the upcoming acquisitions.
punishment!=indemnation
did either russia or germany even manage to win a 1v1 war vs Poland in the last thousands of years, or was it always a 2v1 gangbang?
is this the reason for your eternal butthurt?
cant do it alone?
honest question.
Also, germany doesnt even have a military, right now even Madagascar would conquer germany.
>If Germany and Russia form an economic union together, would they be literally unstoppable?
Pretty much.
Why? Because the thing Germany lacks is resources and the thing Russia lacks is Ordnung. A union would be the single worldpower in 5 years at most.
Everyone in the know is aware of this:
youtube.com
What you see here is George Freeman (founder of STRATFOR, the main US think tank responsible for US geopolitics) talking straight about how and why the US acts as it does:
The main goal for over a hundred years now is to prevent a German-Russian alliance because such an alliance would be stronger than the US and their only real competitor.
Sadly, it worked and works really well - Russians hate Germans with a vengeance and Germans, while they don't hate Russians, are very suspicious of Russia because of past atrocities.
>Incidents of farm A using GMO and then contaminating farm b nearby.
how often does that happen?
i saw a documentary about monsanto, but this happened in the US.
you can sue everbody there.
>which can "escape" into RF.
we have chernobyl nearby, monsanto is the least of my worries
germany is punished by its own governement already
not so fast, I think I heard someone say something about oil
It has not hapenned because Obama made mess in Ukraine and signed trade deal with eu. it is a main reason. Ukraine is a part of russian living space, so it must be liberated.
Another reason is that germans are too stupid and too greedy, they fail all the time because of this.
>Also, germany doesnt even have a military, right now even Madagascar would conquer germany.
Drinking the US Kool Aid again?
Pic related, for those in the know, shows that the Bundeswehr can easily kill the US Navy.
You don't know how bad I want this.
Digits confirm this in time.
It reminds me Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and we all know how that ends.
Know your place dirty subhuman
>Russians hate Germans with a vengeance
not at all. nobody blames the modern day germans for WW2.
i do
I'm paraphrasing what the guy says in the video but can't seem to find it anymore (forgot his name). Basically the idea is that with the both of us allied we would be able to deny American power projection, which in light of the refugee crisis is increasingly convincing German right-wingers that the US are still very much driving the old Kallergi plan with Merkel as a scapegoat/proxy, seeing how that one also explicitly includes making Germany a controlled supereconomy in order to increase pressure on European governments should they resist the planned population displacement. Basically if they succeed, "German" power forces Eurabia to come about and if they fail, the German "evil" is at least destroyed by misdirected vengeance from our neighbors, allowing them to simply try again with a different country.
Don't think I'm not aware of the upsides of our position. But the truth sadly remains that we are technically a whole nation on death row; nothing of this is "meant" to last. I for one would simply much prefer having somebody with the power to stop even the US confirmedly on our side, just in case.
didnt fuhrer merkel fire a general or something a year ago, when it turned out after an audit that the luftwaffe has 8 (EIGHT) functional fighter jets?
also, correct me if im wrong, but didnt you give all your tank divisions to Poland for literally 1 euro?
the reasoning being:
>we dont need an army
????
>21st century
>Poland wasn`t even partitioned
what a shame
See you in 13 years, DRR.
We haven't forgot your Victory Day celebrations, bro.
While you will never see German cars adorned with slogans like "We raped your grandmothers" or "We killed your grandfathers and it was great", such messages are often seen on Russian cars during Victory Day celebrations.
It's unfortunate how good the Americans are at PsyOps.
>all those pipes runnign through Bulgaria
''on death''
Holy shit just filter them out or stop letting them in. This will slowly happen.
You know what won't happen ?
A few hundred thousand sandniggers changing the basic imperatives of European geostrategy.
>didnt fuhrer merkel fire a general or something a year ago, when it turned out after an audit that the luftwaffe has 8 (EIGHT) functional fighter jets?
>also, correct me if im wrong, but didnt you give all your tank divisions to Poland for literally 1 euro?
Lol, you Poles really believe anything. You forgot "Germans don't have guns, just painted broomsticks".
It's about the coming civil war, by the way.
why shouldn`t we celebrate our victory?
>Holy shit just filter them out or stop letting them in. This will slowly happen.
Read the 2+4 Agreement, like I have told Sup Forums for weeks now.
If Germany doesn't play along, it's nuke time.
Russian men die 10 years earlier than men in the "GMO-ridden" west.
>why shouldn`t we celebrate our victory?
Well, if you want an alliance with X, then putting "we killed X's grandparents, I fucking came ten times" everywhere isn't the right way to do it.
Ukraine is wrestled for ever out of Mongol sphere of influence - at least in our lifetimes.
Ukrainian people are heavily antagonized against Russia, because of Russia's over aggression.
There is no such thing like living space. And everyone has the right of self-determination, especially when it comes to adopting a superior sociopolitical model
You've lost a big pool of influence, Ivan, and you're not getting it back.
>cars adorned with slogans like "We raped your grandmothers"
show me a pic of that.
> such messages are often seen on Russian cars during Victory Day
blyad, if you cant read russian please leave the translation to somebody who really understands it
thats due to alcohol abuse and not the best healthcare.
not sure if its still 10 years though.
you didnt answer any of my question.
did, or did not merkel fire a general because luftwaffe doesnt exist.
did, ir did you not give literally all your tanks for free to the polaks.
try to put your german butthurt aside for a second.
>isn't the right way to do it
Germans are cucks, so we can manipulate them, as we want
We got Russia as the enforcer. We would be just standing at the border rubbing our hands together.
>And everyone has the right of self-determination
>transnistria
>transylvania
fuck off, gypsy
Yup. Nuke time.
People like to forget that the death of all Germans is a fundamental religious desire of the Talmudists, as they believe the people that freed "their" Jews from Ancient Babylon to have been our ancestors. That's what the National Socialists were alluding to when they spoke of "Old-Testament-based hatred".
The only major gas pipeline that runs theough Bulgaria is the Transbalkan pipeline.
Nabucco and Southstream are dead.
Pipeline in the baltic sea? Isn't it enough that we're not supposed to eat herring from there more than 2 times a year?
Transnistria, Crimea, yes, of course. Are you retarded ? Places inhabitted by Russians or Ukrainians for ever. Not us.
Transylvania ? You know, it's 80% Romanian, and there's two counties right in the middle of it who happen to have a majority of Hungarians.
They might still get autonomy.
>Incidents of farm A using GMO and then contaminating farm b nearby.
how often does that happen?
I don't have exact data to hand, but it does happen.. And exactly like the case in (Canada i think) where the GMOs escaped.. Monsanto wanted to make the farmer pay for the GMO on his property, even though he didn't want it.. the publicity of the US / Canada experience had Aussies saying GMOs shouldn't be allowed to escape, so that kinda put a stop to the Monsanto fuckery for now.
Bug Issue for Aussie farmland is the very fragile soil. So "no till" farming is practiced.. Rather than plough in last years crop, glyphosate is used to kill off the stubble and allow planting the next season. The glyphosate runs off into waterways and stays as residue in the solid.... Nasty.
.. i saw a documentary about monsanto, but this happened in the US.
Yeah,,the US and Canada court cases really activated the almonds of Aussie farmers.
.. you can sue everbody there. (We're getting almost as bad)
>which can "escape" into RF.
we have chernobyl nearby, monsanto is the least of my worries..
Well, yeah, there is that.. !!!
... Germany is punished by its own government already
Again, true. !
Also that map is old, pic related is an updated map of future gas pipelines in the turkey/balkan area.
fuggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Germans would have to be utter cucks to ever like Russia. I guess modern Germans are all mixed blood mongrels so I wouldn't be surprised.
>unironically nazi pseudoscience
Merchants giving you all the perks of European domination, sometimes at the expense of many others, and you're still whining like a little bitch.
Stated earlier in this very thread (nobody reads! ) just comments
Purpose of NATO:
ROME (Reuters) - The first secretary-general of NATO, Lord Ismay, once said the Western defense alliance was created "to keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down".
>Places inhabitted by Russians or Ukrainians for ever. Not us.
should i remind you, that your puppets from Bessarabia, are so cringy about this
>intermarium
>not russian life space for 2100 year
haha nice meme, all that fantasy-countries hahaha, we should just move tanks to the western border of this pieces of shit
The nazis really were the original Alex Jones conspiracy theorists.
The only thing missing is a couple of good standard gauge railroads across Russia. Although the chinks are looking at building railroads through Afghanistan to connect their standard gauge network to Europe's.
And what's wrong with that ?
Also, ain't nobody keeping Germany down anymore.
Everyone in NATO command and in the Pentagon is fucking begging Germany to grow the fuck up and SPEND MONEY ON THEIR ARMY.
So don't be a retard to form opinions about geostrategy based on catchy quotes from 60 years ago.
The reality is that nobody is stopping Germany from acquiring hard power, except the inner kraut cuckness.
REEEE WE'RE NOT ALLYING WITH THOSE SHITS REEEEEEE Germany must be destroyed and Western Europe must fall.
The whole point of NATO nowadays is to prevent exactly that.
>We got Russia as the enforcer.
you cant even deal with your own migration, TF are you talking about...
thanks for the detailed post
> Monsanto wanted to make the farmer pay for the GMO on his property
yes, thats what i saw in the documentary
>(We're getting almost as bad)
in which way?
Pole who used to live years in germany here
Ein großteil eurer Bevölkerung sind ältere, eure Männer sind cucks und eure Jugend ist im großteil kleine Schwuchteln in skinny jeans. Der Rest ist Abdul und Achmed
Ihr könnt es versuchen aber diesmal ficken wir euch richtig, du Hurensohn
Our left isn't left, it's globalist.
Apart from Wagenknecht maybe but they only keep her around because they know she's seen as reasonable lefty and manages to bring in some votes.
>haha nice meme, all that fantasy-countries hahaha, we should just move tanks to the western border of this pieces of shit
lmao, didnt it take a year for Glorious Mother Russia to occupy a shitty ukrainian province defended by 80 year old tanks?
Are you implying any of these "fantasy countries" are scared of drunk russians.
This is why the US are snuggling up to Poland and Romania, it's the reason for NATO, it's the worst case scenario for US Eurasian geopolitics. Read something sometime.
Feels nice to LARP counterfactual history. I mean, what do you have left besides that ?
what's left of your influence? Belarus, Stans, Ba'Athists genocidal dictators in the Middle East and that's about it. And they're all shaky.
Your language is the fastest dying in Europe and the culture you export is nonexistant. There is no path for real progress for Russia besides integrating with trans-national institutions. At some point, hopefully after a global conflict, it will happen and we'll have a peaceful world.
Provide a link to prove that is actually "a thing".
And a bit like Sup Forums .. Some anons shitpost some quite extreme POV - some might actually hold those views, others like the "shock" value ..
from what I can see from the other side of the planet. The RF war memorial ceremonies seem very respectful of history - in all its ugliness.
Australian ANZAC day, on the other hand is a literally booze filled xenophobic chauvinistic vainglorious celebration of ... What, exactly?
A lot of misguided fools jumping on boats to die for "Mother England". Pathetic.,
Literally no one in Germany cares about your demands. Even the people who generally support your anti EU stance think your attempt at kikery is pretty pathetic.