1 of october

1 of october

Will we get a new flag?

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i'm so excited. in just a few more days, there will be no more spain. there will only be castille.

What had happen? Guess I'm out of the loop.

Whats happening?

A referendum, with no legal base, regarding Catalonia's Independence is taking place on that day.

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A referendum, like the legal Referendum in scotland

please reconquer southern Italy and recreate the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies

KYS

aragon will never be free

I think yu get a new flag, an a new country

The government of Spain of the PP is not going to do anything to stop this. They say they do things so as not to scare right voters a lot, but they do nothing, PP obey the markets, they are Jews who only care about money, party money and profits, their profit not the national profit

I fucking hate that flag with the shitty star and the blue strip, it is literally an insult to our glorious ancestral banner.

Wow they preserved your grandmother's underwear?

>american banter

at least you tried

What's Catalonia? Give me the rundown

kek

good spanish bait, amigo

The mexico of spain.

Why do people think they can break off? I highly doubt spain is going to let go of any more of its land without yet another civil war.

madrid is mexico of spain, soo much redneck
catalonia is the argentina of spain, so much wannabes

The california of Spain. Inmensely rich but inmensely commie as well.

Me, several friends and everybody in my family will vote NO, the indepe meme it's ending

Possibly the most cucked region in all of Spain, and one of the most looked down on by the rest of Spanish people. They want to be independent because of muh history and muh different culture but they forget that every region of Spain has its own culture and history.

Pic related is their level of cuckness

Catalonia is Sweden of Iberia

Only a fringe minority of antifa/commies (Arran) write that shit, trying to pass it as if all Catalans were like them is dishonest.

Don't forget that Catalonia is also the place in Spain where the far-right is higher, where PxC practically entered the parliament despite all the propaganda against it (now dismantled) and where parties like C's where born (sadly they cucked themselves after becoming bigger and national-wide, but they started being very hard on immigration and such)

This appears in Catalan parliamentary elections as an electoral ad, Catalonia is a region of extremes.

youtube.com/watch?v=LaIkTiAYqHQ

You are in favor of the referendum, but against independence?

Alright I'll look into it

Thumbs up to you.

You cuck.

What the fuck?
See first image below OP.
See OP's flag.

I know man, but there's no way to deny that they are the most cucked region. And obviously that level of cuckness is going to inspire the rise of right wing nationalism.

For a place so proud of its history and culture, why has Catalunya so willingly allowed itself to turn into a mess of 'diversity'? You barely hear Catalan now in Barcelona. The irony is that they spent so much energy being against everything "Spanish" they have allowed themselves to be the home of the Muslim reconquistas. Molt triste aixo. Do any Catalans even care?

You cuck.

Catalonia is just the part of Iberia the French conquered to the moors and then gave it away because it was ... well...

You describe Catalonia pretty well.

When we make Iberia great again, we'll then take care of Italy.

Probably not in our lifetime, though...

Lol.
What you did was nice.

This is not a historical as well as a political issue.

Catalonia is not against "Spain", Catalonia is against the Franco party, the PP and the Franco royal family the borbones,, but now, as governs the PP and the rotal family is the Bourbons, they do not want to belong to Spain.
That is understandable, I would not even belong to a country governed by Rajoy with the protection of the Borbon family.

It's complicated.

1) Catalonia is hugely dominated by Barcelona, which is a big city and *modern*
2) Catalans think they are more European than the rest of Spain. . . So, they'll swallow all your shit if you say its "European". And we all know how the cuckenreich in the E.U. works;
3) They have a history of being gay for communism and anarchism as a way to annoy the Castillan might.
4) Also, they think they are very special but they fail to realise that much of its economic prowess is due to Spain allowing it. When they find themselves seperated from Spain, they'll realise they will have to work harder and take care of themselves. I wonder how they will react then...

You're such a cuck.

Is that reason enough to fill yourselves with Moroccans?
Is that reason enough to actually ideolize an actually BLACKED for real porn actress as a sort of national hero?

Yeah... Rajoy and the Bourbons look like angels compared with your (((elites)))

The Franks created the Gothic March between southern France and northern Catalonia (Pyrenees) after they defeated the Umayyad invasion of France, it was that Gothic March, independently, the one that pushed back the Moors and conquered the lands of Aragon and Catalonia (originally both part of the Gothic march, then they splitted then they united again forming the Crown of Aragon, which conquered Valencia, the Baleric Islands and swathes of the Mediterranean). Catalans are basically Occitans, their language was basically the same up to the 18th century and their culture is very similar, in fact Occitan is an official language in Catalonia, the differences only began after the French culturally genocided the Occitans and the Castillians tried the same with the Catalans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occitano-Romance_languages

Kek, that ad was amazing

Same here. Nobody said it's going to be the official flag though.

Soon

sisplau posem aquesta

True that, they split in the Middle Ages to be more precise. Medieval troubadours used it often probably due to being so similar with our language, practically the same back then.

>all these buttmad vitriolic p*rtuguese posters
kindly fuck off, shitskins, I'd rather be surrounded by actual moors than moortuguese (not like there's much of a difference)

No, we won't, since even if Yes wins the referendum, all countries won't recognize Catalonia.

>Kosovo has been practically independent for 10 yhears but doesn't have a flag

the flag of Barcelona is also nice

>not using the Renaixença phoenix flag

> Rey Don Jaime I de Aragón
Aragón, indeed
Cataluña was never a kingdom, nor a country

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>Is that reason enough to fill yourselves with Moroccans?
>yourselves
gently hang yourself joao

>Is that reason enough to actually ideolize an actually BLACKED for real porn actress as a sort of national hero?
Now I'm curious, care to explain?

KYS

>implying a battle that CASTILLIANS lost makes me mad as a proud catalan übermensch

stupid p*rto diaspora

Independence is pushed by idealists with no idea what the price will be.

They also think that they will still be part the eu somehow.

Every country in the eu with an retarded independence movement will do everything to stop them from joining the eu to not set a precedent

Sad!

An actual pope said this 400 years before your "country" even existed: "magna profecto est gloria nationis catalanae diebus nostris: papa catalanus, rex Aragonum et Siciliae catalanus". Don't talk about what you ignore.

I've studied european studies at University, I have a good knowledge and I don't specially support any side in all this, but at this point the independence it's almost impossible. Same thing for Belgium.

A couple of decades ago, before the EU super state it would have been easier, but right now it's practically impossible.

this is also nice, but it's too complex for modern standards with that phoenix, and without it its just england's flag

I don't know how did we support them though. Did we send weapons or troops?

The Saint George's cross is also an important symbol here.

i don't actually believe this numbers. there's no way cast*llians are that incompetent

that's why I suggested this, company

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In favor of the referendum and against independence like most catalans, fuck xarnacionalistes

>Castillians tried the same with the Catalans
Don't invent history as does the educational system from Catalonia, there has never been a cultural genocide and the castillian language has been expanding since the end of the 13th century when it becomes the lingua franca of Hispania

That battle was lost because the french cavalry

How do you think the Crown of Aragon even formed, dummy?

Remember: Kingdom of Aragon =/= Crown of Aragon

I'll explain to you, an Aragonese girl named Petronila married a Catalan man named Berenguer IV,... bazoonga, you have the Crown of Aragon and the reunion between the formerly splitted Spanish March lands. There was no war, no subjugation, just literal fucking between monarchs.

King James I of Aragon spoke in Catalan, btw, he even wrote a book entirely in Catalan named "Llibre dels Feits", he descended from Berenguer IV, since then all monarchs of Aragon were culturally Catalan (nor that there was much difference by then between them, the aragonese and the occitans)

The original Aragonese also were "Occitans" so to speak, as it was their language now extinct, and big chunks of the eastern modern Autonomous Community of Aragon still speak in Catalan.

Indeed, even in the Montsó Courts of the Crown of Aragon, Catalonia was constantly mentioned alongside Aragon, however due to the nobiliary order the name of Aragon ended prevailing.

>there has never been a cultural genocide
True, only after the succession war some laws were passed but many of them were never fully enforced and all of them were quickly forgotten. Feels bad for the poor Aragonese and Leonese whose languages have almost disappeared.

I think it will be 1934 all over again. If something really happens the goverment will roll up the tanks and keep the commies quet for another century. I'll be glad if that follows with a civil war so we can wake up the nationalist spirit, it's a bit dormant.

OY VEY, pels meus banc- vui di, pel nostre pais!!!!

no, seriously, fuck those kikes, lock CIU up and then we'll talk

Yeah, but the Principality of Catalonia was formally created in the 12th century, I never understood why it was just a Principality and not a Kingdom though. For example they created the title of King of Mallorca although it was just a depopulated Island, and same with the Kingdom of Sardinia. Things worked oddly back then.

I just want to point out that while you guys argue over battles from 700 years ago, muslims are trying to get their old caliphate back and the Iberian Peninsula is high on their list. I love Spain, and I love Catalunya. Please get your shit together.

>kindly fuck off, shitskins
Said the moor rape bab

There's little to do about that. Even in Europe people is not "waking up" as you said they would. And as old people dies more cucked youths and sandniggers reach voting age. Until the system collapses and open war happens there's little to do.

>p*rtoshits calling anyone a rapebaby
as a catalan guy, I honestly can't distinguish you people from moroccans

We were occupied for less time thanks to dad Karl so we have less sandnigger genes.

I really dont care if they only stay in EU.

Because we were part of the Frankish Kingdom and then broke vassalage from them, which made our lands independent but without a king, the highest nobility that existed there were Counts, so instead of crowning someone as a king, the Counts of Catalonia decided to elect a semi-democratic Princeps, which was a Primus Inter Pares between the Counts, with time this title was permanently hold and inherited by the Counts of Barcelona making them kings de facto but not de iure. This, of course, until one Catalan Princep married the Aragonese Queen, forming the Crown of Aragon and uniting the former lands.

As you know the Aragonese did the same, they broke vassalage from Frankish Kingdom BUT instead of electing a Princeps they chose a Navarrean Monarch, thus why they could make a Kingdom and not only a Principality, that's why after the Catalan-Aragonese union they had the nobiliary order and why the name of Aragon prevailed for the Crown.

Interesting, I didn't know this.

Based towel bro.

>Will we get a new flag?
Yeah, this one.

To use in this frivolous way the word genocide ans this shitty arguments can only come from a brainwashed cucktalan.

>Cataluña was never a kingdom, nor a country
And what's your point? The burguer was right. Cataluña was never a kingdom, nor a country.

You guys talking about Catalonia Independence, when there is a law called "National Security Law", basically if they hold the referendum, they get out of the presidency.

Why? Because that's illegal. And so is the huge spending of money in those kind of movements.

And the most important thing, most of the people don't want INDEPENDENCE.

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The whole independece movement is for gibs. They will shot themselves in the foot if they go for the referendum.
Expect them to cancel it and blame Madrid.

Yeah look, you seem ptetty based. I agree with most of what you said and you showed you know History. However:

1) It were the Franks (French) who conquered Barcelona in 801 and created the County of Barcelona which was "maybe" the most important and powerful region in the Kingdom of Aragon;

2) I know Catalans are somewhat "Occitan". I also know back in the day Occitan language was quiet fashionable. All the good poets and knights were mostly from Southern France. However I think Catalans (even more in Valencia) are more Hispanic/Iberian than Occitan.

THIS! THIS! THIS!

They will say that they couldn't do it because of closed high schools, and that shit. They will hold presidential elections again. I hope they don't get the majority, so propaganda stop, and we work to be a strong country again.

That anti Spanish video from gaydom in Barcelona with that red headed porn actress Milner/ Miller... I don't recall exactly.

Look at all those lines. Disgusting. Cant you catacucks properly steal a flag like we did from Cuba?

Catalans, as Castillian, are Hispanic.

Mariano Ragoy support the referendum

See, that exactly your problem.

I like you, I just happen to think that you are disgusting also. Levantines...

Based greatest ally.

No.

Thays a gay looking flag

Tell me this is not Madrid

Spanish nationalist aren't very smart.
See: Vasques stealing the UK flag

How could Marxists be nationalists?
How can you be against Castillian migrations but be for African immigration?

Unfortunately, it is.

Rajoy is a cuck.