WHen I first saw BLM, it was almost all white people holding signs. I thought, ok, cool...
But then I saw you on youtube and I have serious questions...
1) Why do you block highways? Just to piss people off and get people fired for being late to work? Protesting libraries as if book readers are the oppressors? Your tactics suck
2) I take you more seriously when you tell Antifa to take their masks off or gtfo. You recognize these guys dressed as Antifa don't care about you or your cause, this gives you more cred with white seperatists and most of Sup Forums how do you feel about that
3) Instead of making a list of gibs me dat, are you preparing more petitions to sign and a list of BLM picks at the polls? Don't say vote for x caus x is black, give a policy reason for every pick. For every electorate locally, it could change your image from chimping out and burning down your own hood to sage and refined intellectuals rocking the vote?
4) when you show up to a BLM event and it's mostly white people, ever think, oh boy, whitey here to solve my problems again?
Please stfu with all the nigger-fag replies, it's just boring.
I can give you their reason. My reason is they want to be speed bumps.
Their reason is that they want to show people what it's like to be frustrated by "society" and not be able to "move forward" because of "obstacles" that are put in your way.
Jack Garcia
This is a recipe for disaster and will spill the blood of americans. White or black, it's all red. There has to be a better way. The media wants the streets to run with blood, better ratings. Any hope of getting Nation of Islam to make non agression pacts with white seperatists groups and perhaps politically so both sides can get what they want on local levels?
I do want to know what you have experienced to get you there? I live in a middle class neighborhood, mostly white, neighbors black and some asians too. I don't bother my neighbors, but I'll say hey hows it going if we are both out in our yards fucking with weeds and staining our fences to be polite. No hate, they drive nicers cars than I got, think they could be conservative? They got polite respectful kids I would trust in my house. My living situation shapes my worldview.
Ethan Edwards
You mean from gang violence? Does it make your blood boil when an 8 year old gets shot up doing her homework by a driveby gone wrong? To me, it's worse than a cop with an itchy trigger finger. Honestly if BLM had outrage for that and wanted to work on that, I wouldn't be against them.
Yeah, they kill white people too. HUMANS KILL EACH OTHER. always have, always will. I respectfully can't see your logic. I'm not going to watch a 2 hr doc right now. (but later) but want to ask, do you side with OLD black panthers or the NEW black panthers?
Daniel Long
how to you fight the degeneracy of drug turf war without whitey solving the problem? is it wrong to say blacks gotta solve this one?
Justin Collins
the old ones, of course, they were much much more sophisticated.
they too made big mistakes, of course, they were defeated, but they were much more then just a gun club. they were armed, and BLA is a fact but they were incomparably more radical
Isaiah Smith
you assume some kind of benevolent mastery over them. this is bullshit.
Easton Anderson
Glad to know this thread has some old folks who know and not just 13 yo stormfags. I could talk with the OLD party but the NEW party seems just as evil as the nazis. Were they defeated or just morphed into Nation of Islam? I truely hate islamic culture, especially slavery history, I find it ironic a black seperateist movement could have the word islam in it. Are there other black seperatists movements that are not islamic and moderate?
Levi Murphy
only that state is not human
Sebastian Reed
that's cause we''re Sup Forums masters of the universe and shit. I mean we made trump the fucking president man. Pepe is appearing in the starry sky while the massive corporations like google try to censor it to no avail. Somehow it isn't very bullshit anymore.
Jack Mitchell
benevolent mastery over who? confused? I'm a Libertarian addicted to wiki. I'm not right or left. Sometimes troll but not now.
Christian Cruz
The amount of black people that are killed in police shootouts, is almost directly proportional to the amount of black people that pull weapons on cops.
Charles Martin
not a great record from a combat point of view.
Thomas Wilson
as far as i know Nation of Islam presupposed the old panthers by date of establishment. i dont know much about the agenda of the new ones, an old panther said they just clowns and i take it from her. its important for blacks to be armed in an organized fashion but a revolutionary movement is not just a gun club.
i find it problematic to speak seriously about black separatist movements, movements like those need high degree of organisation to get what they want. i dont see anything like that now
Hunter Lee
>BLM sage or reasonable >automatically blame every black guy shot by a white guy (cop or not) on the white guy The group was never reasonable, even if there are a few reasonable people in it.
Nathan Robinson
drug sales are a corner that blacks were shoved into. sure they need to find the strength to get out of that corner, nobody else can do it for them
Jason Evans
Hey, I'm a "newfag" not sure when the mods will censor intelligent diolague. I think it's good to have these conversations. I asked you a lot of questions. Quid pro quo. Got any questions before me before... "ov vey shut it down"?
John Morgan
well, shit, i dont know what to ask...
why you think an insurrection is a disaster?
Eli Watson
I think we have an opportunity as American citizens to... do what we are doing now, thinking outside of MSM. Thoughtcrime. Find common ground where we can. And sometimes straight out disagree, atleast we are hearing each other
Charles Hughes
Sounds like the methods are disaster. I think any method should use the democratic method we have in place. Even if that means a true nazi could be elected by democratic process. It's not perfect but it's better than burning things to the ground and your political opponents getting injured or killed. I don't want to injure or kill my political opponents, in doing so I lose because my ideas were not more powerful than ignorant street violence. Side thought, get someone as smart as Thomas Sowell to debate (((Ben Shapiro)))?
Brandon Clark
now you must be trolling,
>Even if that means a true nazi could be elected by democratic process
>better than [...] political opponents getting injured or killed.
nazis are not liberals, they kill their opponents when they get into state offices.
James King
I'm basing what I'm saying off of the group spokespeople, their demand lists, and violence associated with the group. The media coddling and sometimes even encouraging that shit is a big part of the problem and I am not about to add to that problem, are you?
Carter Baker
actually, no need to go all the way to "nazis" america kills its political opponents, black people, even without being explicitly nazi. they dont call them "political opponents" they call them "criminals". they dont recognize them as being capable of politics.
Alexander Murphy
more white people are killed by police than black people moron . . . do your HW before looking stupid . .
Hunter Wood
I didn't say I agreed with the nazis, I don't, but it is sticking to classic liberal (Libertarian) principals. I disagree with the lib open borders thing, but pretty much onboard with the rest.
Nathaniel Collins
Thinking undermind, get the true thinkers to change them if hard questions go through their head. Or abandon their cause for a new one they create that is more sensible.
Jonathan Garcia
not before we do something about you.
William Wright
well, the liberal thing is on its way out man. radicalization is everywhere.
>actually, no need to go all the way to "nazis" america kills its political opponents, black people, even without being explicitly nazi. they dont call them "political opponents" they call them "criminals". they dont recognize them as being capable of politics.
If I were you I'd get into politics then
Bentley Ortiz
People point to antifa-fags and call them liberal, but they have no classic liberal values. They are not liberals, they are commies. True Libertarians are starting to side with the right
Jayden Thompson
Not true, most people don't know what classic liberals values are. They don't wiki, they just hear the TV
Ethan Butler
i dont think they gonna like me more then they like trump,
and i cant even fund my own campaign
aint nothing but puppets there and everybody knows it too
Lucas Price
This is a recipe for disaster and will spill the blood of americans. White or black, it's all red. There has to be a better way. The media wants the streets to run with blood, better ratings. Any hope of getting Nation of Islam to make non agression pacts with white seperatists groups and perhaps politically so both sides can get what they want on local levels?
I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. The point is to let people walk around with flags and not turn our streets into a bloodbath. Libertarians know this and we are the centerists that will decide future elections.
Tyler James
you shoud really read something to understand the times and the situation america is in rigth now.
its not a big book about civil war, i recommend especially the introduction and the last chapter about police
Perhaps. I don't know. I think it was the left's own funeral when they decided to try to take all the extremist shit on under their big tent policies to begin with. That's not to say they couldn't recover, but if they continue down this road, all while continually pummeling people on both sides who are clearly not extremist both rhetorically and literally, they will alienate themselves from all but the most delusional. I really hate laissez faire much of the time, but I could see it working just fine here. The risk being the left somehow manages to keep its shitshow together long enough to really start fucking stuff up and we all have to get truly serious.
Ryan Sullivan
blood is already in the streets my friend, its all already here, and will only intensify
you are in this war too, everybody is a partisan.
Dominic Wright
See the boston free speech rally? It was an Indian Dr, and people holding anti-monsanto signs and BL do Matter signs. Thousands were calling them nazis. How fix? Even guy with Israel flag called nazi, what gives?
Leo Reyes
I disagaree entirely, stormfags may hold cyber power, but they will not be responsible for blood on the streets (or your hands). I intend to hold onto my principals. I'll bleed for an older vet who went to war for me. #NormieLivesMatter
Tyler Ortiz
well, you pay taxes, your tax money funds the police, police "manage" - suppress certain people. in a democracy the population is said to be sovereign, every citizen is a little king, a micro king, you reproduce a certain order which you surly deem obvious but others are not. you are a partisan.
Ethan Mitchell
Yeah, I'm too poor to buy health insurance, and I get a fine for it if I dont. Since I'm not on the gibs, it gets expensive. As a libertarian, I never want to be held in corporate hamster wheel again.
Dylan Adams
Sounds like Lavay satinism, I read that book, cool with the idea.
Jace Hernandez
Natizs are nat soc tho, against the classic liberal. Left but the wrong kind, being socialist an all
Daniel Bell
Both sides pussed out? DId I win this thread?
Tyler Roberts
> you assume some kind of benevolent mastery over them. Yes, liberals do this all the time They want votes, you dumb goy
Chase Gomez
You misunderstand the classic Liberal..
goddammit, was going to post but ((they change the definition)))
Robert Carter
Shilll for shekels or will you be there when they attack old vets in wheelchairs that actually fought the nazis against those who LARP against nazis?
