Why are collectivists so dumb?

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I am a White straight English-speaking Libertarian male who lives in Australia.
I oppose all collectives, collectivism and identity.

I want this answers!
Why are collectivists so stupid? Why can't they adopt individualism?

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I'm just here to beat animeposter to first post.

YOU WON'T WIN THIS

i will win, faggots

Why are indiviualists so stupid?...
We can all go all day.
And so can you, apparently.

Isn't Clownpiece such a cutie?

It's in their genes.

>thinking ants are the same as humans
>blease tell me this is shitposting and you aren't serious

Hey, Sup Forums! Riot!

She sure is.
No images on deck but I agree.

I'd sooner bend my knee to Ulfric Stormcock

>I am a White straight English-speaking Libertarian male who lives in Australia.
>I oppose all collectives, collectivism and identity.

the paradox creeps between these two lines and fucks in the ass

You wouldn't be here without the collective efforts of humanity.
No man is an island. When you grow up you'll realize that kiddy.

>opposes collectivism
>identifies with the collective known as libertarians

Literally /ourfairy/

The entire idea of Collectivism is what made Sweden so successful

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkhemmet

Where the hell did you get that
Kek

I believe ideologies that value freedom have all the best intention, but are naive towards malevolent forces in the world. It is my opinion that in a libertarian society, multinational corporations and international money power would economically enslave most of the population, and would brainwash the people into revolving their lives around partying/television/celebrity culture/weed/unhealthy sexual fetishes and whatever else is commonly described as "degeneracy".

While I recognize that a free and (morally) healthy society is the ideal, I'd rather live in an unfree but healthy society than a free but toxic society.

Lately I've been looking into paleoconservatism, so far it seems to be a nice middle ground between statism and freedom. I like how it emphasizes certain conservative values, but it seems to "enforce" these more through civil society than the state. I find I have issues with it though since it seems to feature a far too limited government in terms of social security, economy etc. This is where my love of corporatism turns me away. And so continues my search for an ideology I can identify with.

I hate that bullshit too, I work in my father's business and we have 20+ workers, a couple of weeks back they started a strike cause a leftist-commie union leader told them that we were exploiting them with their work, all of a sudden most of workers started a strike and wanted a collective contract

>tl;dr weak people cant think for themselves

Its easier for an individual to fight the collective because when the individual goes down nobody cares but when a collectivist goes down they ALL feel it.
The point is that the next time you fuck with one youre in some small way hitting the overmind too.

Why did pol become so god damn retarded? his vid is about how successful ants are being a collective his post is being ironic

and he's retarded for thinking ants and humans are at all comparable. fuck everyone is this thread we're at inception levels of retarded here. please kill yourselves

All the individualists in Russia left to contribute to the free world or were exterminated by collectivists, so of course it would make no sense to those who remain.

They're not dumb, they're just weak. Any ideology that promotes victim complexes and denies personal accountability is trash.

We are individually concluding that it is in our individual interests to express individualism as a group.

true individualism doesn't recognize private property

a true individualist would be apathetic to trespassing and stealing done by other to others

>sweden

You just posted in your post why collectivism is superior. If humanity was one cohesive collective we could make anything possible.

It was the collectivism of Europe that gave you the luxury to be an individualist. Be a better individual and study history. Learn why a nation can't just be filled with all self-serving pricks.

"Anti-identitarians" or skeptics are the new fedora atheists.
"LOL why are religious people so dumb how could they believe that shit?"

Human beings are collectivist by nature. It is the result of millions of years of biological programming. If you think niggers and spics are going to suddenly become individualistic because they watched Sargon, you're a retard.

>check flag
ignore this poster, doesnt even show his flag, at least read the thread imbecile

is that better beaner faggot

Please don't start a discussion about political philosophy on Sup Forums, go to /his/.

You will just encounter American political apathy and ignorance.

Imagine your entire country being an extension to your family and home? it really was like that untill shit went down.

As a British person with British culture speaking English; Sargon should have no trouble converting large religions of Africa to Individualism.

>collectivism is bad
>shows extremely collectivist ants winning against an individual worm

Is this bait?

>That "U dum, I smurt. Y?" shitpost
>supposed to start some sort of serious discussion

>your post
>not equally shitposty

>already wasted time reading libertarian drivel
>expects me to waste more time on a webm to get the joke

Hes being ironic but if you think ants and humans are the same and share the same biological drives than youre a retard

Guess who cunts!

>insects whose only purpose is to serve hive are individualist
>worm living alone is collectivist

It wasn't, that shit died with industrialization and we replaced it with this socialist abomination. Which isn't fucking good even without the foreign horde.

go back to rreddit you fucking retard

>being ashamed of your flag
>use autist nazi flag instead
>calls me a beaner trying to act superior
>your only accomplishment in life was born in there
good job amigo, you are retarded fag

>White
>Straight
>Male
Individualism is our way and should continue to be. However, whites adopt collectivism in the face of a common enemy or adversity even if only for the duration of the turmoil. The problem with us is that, due to an individualist nature, we are usually late to the game.
There is a benefit to being late though. When we do show up we're woke as fuck, pissed and merciless.
For whatever reason, our individualism blinds us to the growing collectivism surrounding us but the events of charlottesville and subsequent censorship campaigns show that white collectivism is greatly feared.

Im white youre a beaner /thread
go pick some more limes for me to eat before you get killed by the cartel essay

>I think someone is stupid enough to believe ants and humans have the same biological drives despite the fact they are two entirely different branch of evolution

Is this more bait? I mean if you asked a retard whether this was true or not they would simply say "potato". However they would still not form that opinion.

well shit, now I feel bad

I know you're being satirical but it still triggers me that there are white liberals who gobble this shit up

The point is that humans need to work together to survive, and that having group identity isn't a bad thing. The most successful survival unit has always been the nuclear family, and then the greater extended family/tribe.

Can the free market solve the education issues of America? No, only stable households can

Even if its "just ants" the video is rather a point FOR collectivism.
Are you a fucking strawman or why do you ask such stupid questions?

Palecon's are good.

The issue with individualists is they are unable to perceive that their individual interests can be harmed through a lack collective means.
Trust is one such example. The inability to trust those around you takes a toll on an individual and yet is caused by a lack of a collective.

>has to say he is white for reassurence
Sorry honey but you are not even 56% white, also I bet you dont even have a job, you are fatty and have little titties, but dont be so sad, at least you were born there, right? Also im whiter than you Tyrone

I asked because you seem to think humans are capable of an ants collectivist nature despite the fact that is goes against ours

we do work together. that isn't collectivism. individuals working for themselves (and their nuclear family) will work with other individuals doing to same to progress civilization, I work hard for myself but it also benefits society at large

because humans are not ants

They're scared, strength in numbers.

come mow my lawn for $2

That webm is the perfect counterargument to your thread. Nice work.

Atomized you die, together we thrive.
Fuck off with your ancapistan atlas shrugged bullshit

retard alert
pol is dead

Magic dirt and magic culture my lad.
IF Africans were not predisposed to African culture and instead predisposed to European culture then from the moment of first contract European culture would have spread like wildfire.

*Culture is group behavior*

Society is collectivist.
A sports team is collectivist.

The point is to not be totalitarian in the application of a principle. Both a totalitarian individualism AND a totalitarian collectivism is fucking retarded.

come and suck the father of your wife's son

Humans are not liver cells or blood cells, and yet....???

at that point the term collectivist is pointless. of fucking course we work together and cooperate. of course we come together in societies. that is not what collectivism is

Humans are tribal by nature though. If you look at a tribe as a collective then we are very much a collectivist species. We don't rule the world because we are individually powerful. Though this is increasingly true with technology.

>Forward
literally gommunist propaganda

>Why are collectivists so stupid? Why can't they adopt individualism?
>post webm which shows how collective works and why you might need collective strength
Bait thread. Sage.

ah sorry, I missread what you wrote.

I actually read "why don't they adopt collectivism" therefore my answer was "because humans are not ants"

:))

fuck commies

I would use the word cooperative over collectivist
ants do not care about anything except the good of the hive. they have no individual desires and will do amazing things as a hivemind unit.
humans are self interested. yes in small tribes we'll work more tightly together because we care more about people we know than people we do not, but at the end of the day we still put ourselves and our nuclear family unit ahead of everyone else.

Collectivism literally is marriage you dumb fuck. Collectivism = 2 or more owners. Collectivism is privatization of multiple owners.How many companies and building got a single 100% owner? Now kill yourself.

the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.

for everyone confused about what collectivism is

>that is not what collectivism is

The problem is so many people think it is.
Sargon types label a conscious in-group White preference as collectivist.
'What to keep Britain British? That is fucking collectivism! Just like those ESJAYDOUBLEU's!'

Even when they talk about' identity politics'. Leftist (((professors))) are now on a mission to remove all White identity itself, to revert it back to the nihilistic materialist filth it has become.

So what's wrong giving group something they paid for? Nowhere it says collectivism is for non-owners.

report this furry shit

yeah i noticed in this thread no one seems to know what collectivism is.
sargoy is a retard so id expect nothing less of him

Because teamwork beats individualism. It's just being pragmatic, goyim. If whites continue trying to be individualistic while the whole world swarms into our countries we will be finished. This is necessary.

Armies aren't collectivism, since they aren't owners of military, they are only employed by military. Collectivist army would be where soldiers own military and are employed in their military.

"Forward" to what?

I have to leave this bread maybe pol
half the posters here are too retarded to know OP was being ironic
the other half doesnt know what collectivism is but thinks they support it
100% should be gassed

It's an IQ thing, they are basically just NPC's, they aren't real individuals like us.

Progress.

>Collectivist army would be where soldiers own military

So something like ancient Greece? Ancient Athenian soldiers would split up conquered territories amongst themselves, pretty good incentive for winning the battle.

>Using Ants Aka "My Life is not My own, its for the colony"
Thats some pretty bad example.

Ants are collectivist monarchy, such thing doesn't exist in human world.

If this is forward, I have to go back.

Im aware which is why comparing them to humans and saying look we should be like this is retarded
such a thing wont ever exist in the human world because we arent fucking ants

Yeah, no, since if they allowed just one private thief/spy, they wouldn't be collectivist any longer, since collective ownership only splits money between collective owners and thief/spy wouldn't be one. Then there's this important part where leader gets more money. So yes kind of collectivist, yeah no.

>half the posters here are too retarded
You may want to leave Sup Forums altogether.

"I want To be overrun and destroyed by collective groups so i can Feel intellectually superior"
No ancap mouvement Will ever suceed because your gay ideology is broken at its core

>Libertarian
Allowing people to set up their own collectivist communities is textbook libertarianism you retard.

This, but unironically

I'll avoid playing semantics about what collectivism is. The end result is the prisoner's dilemma. Whites can try to destroy their own identity by trying to be individuals, but the other races won't do that. If you want to survive, you gotta not drop your guard. Fuck, white identity wouldn't even have been a thing of the left didn't push racial identity for the past 6 decades. "This is all white people's fault! Black pride! Fag pride!"

I'm sure being a """skeptic""" really helps in places like south Africa. That should be the canary in the coal mine for us.

it used to be smart though. we'd still argue and there were different ideas promoted but at least most of the people were intelligent. pol is plebbit tier stupid these days. the only difference is i dont get down boated for saying nigger

That's not true, anyone who it's willing to eat the rotten fish for that country was more of a patriot that any other european.

Yeah I'd agree with you here. Im all about saving white people and removing kebabs and niggers and beans

Collective = more than one thing
ownership = you decide rules/laws
Collective ownership aka Collectivism = group of people decide laws of their organization by voting, they also split money among themselves.

What's hard to understand here?

While democratic voting is public voting, since government owns politicians, government buildings, not the voters. Goy just votes for goy provided people, goy doesn't actually neither picks people, television picks people and goy doesn't decides laws.

Really activated my almonds with them semantics fag.
Kill you are self

>I oppose identity

>I oppose what makes me who I am 50 percent, fuck race language and culture, one race human race blah blah blah
I dont understand all these illogical cucks who bash racism? Whats so bad in racism?
Its nature filtering out the trash we dont want to breed with . Why are yall lefties and libcucks so stupid and so lacking in arguments and intelligence?

kys puta

Fuck you ancap devil. Basically a jew. Selfish ancap mongrel dog.

But did it opened your almonds when i said government owns politicians and government buildings? So ask yourself who's the owner of government, who is this government? Politicians work for government, but are they the owners of government? They aren't, so who's the owner of government? Are you the owner of government? How are your almonds? So if politicians aren't owners of government, since they obviously are bosses of government, not owners and you aren't the owner of government, then who is? The money is, so who's the money's owner?

It's you who's dumb. Your whole ideology depends on people being smart, which most evidently are not.

i heard somalia needs more people like you.