A black man went undercover online as a white supremacist. This is what he learned.
Theo Wilson created a fake online persona so he could better understand white supremacist trolls. He spent months inside the echo chamber learning about why racism flourishes online.
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As soon as Theo Wilson started making YouTube videos about culture and race, trolls using racial slurs started flocking to his page.
After engaging in endless sparring matches in the comments section, Wilson began to notice something curious: His trolls seemed to speak a language unto themselves, one replete with the same twisted facts and false history. It was as if they had all passed through some “dimensional doorway,” arriving from an alternative universe where history, politics and commonly accepted facts had been turned inside out.
There was the idea that slavery was a form of charity that benefited enslaved Africans; that freed blacks owned more slaves than whites before the Civil War; that people of color make up the majority of those receiving aid from America's safety-net programs; and that investor and philanthropist George Soros is funding protest movements like Black Lives Matter.
Curious about where his trolls were getting their revisionist history lessons, Wilson, 36, — an award-winning poet and actor from Denver — decided to go undercover in their world. In 2015, he started by creating a ghost profile named “Lucious25,” a digital white supremacist who appeared to be an indigenous member of the alt-right's online echo chamber, he said.
His avatar was John Carter, the Confederate hero of Edgar Rice Burroughs's science fiction series about death-defying adventures on Mars.
Within a few weeks Wilson's alternate identity was questioning President Barack Obama's birthplace, railing against Black Lives Matter and bemoaning people he called “race-baiters,” such as Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. After several months, he was a disaffected fixture on alt-right websites that draw white supremacists — such as Info Wars and American Renaissance — and in the comments section of racist YouTube videos.
>After engaging in endless sparring matches in the comments section, Wilson began to notice something curious: His trolls seemed to speak a language unto themselves, one replete with the same twisted facts and false history. It was as if they had all passed through some “dimensional doorway,” arriving from an alternative universe where history, politics and commonly accepted facts had been turned inside out.
Local man discovers others have different perspective, struggles to understand it as anything other than literally a tear in the fabric of reality
“To be honest, it was kind of exhilarating,” Wilson told an audience during a recent TEDx talk about his experience. “I would literally spend days clicking through my new racist profile, goofing off at work in Aryan land.”
During his eight months as a racist troll, Wilson never revealed his true identity. When it was all over, Wilson said, he came to appreciate the way in which the far-right media bubble disables its participants — offering an endless stream of scapegoats for their problems but no credible solutions.
>offering an endless stream of scapegoats for their problems but no credible solutions.
Just like antifa commies, BLM and people who wants gibs from the state.
>offering an endless stream of scapegoats for their problems but no credible solutions.
Fuckin' whitey.
>spends 8 months researching us
>still believes there le scapegoat meme
>eight months
Takes way more to start hating your own race
Also saged.
We spoke with the poet about his experience, whether white supremacists are redeemable and why he believes liberals should listen to the far-right. The interview has been edited for length.
Were you struck by the reality that infiltrating this world would've been nearly impossible for you at almost any other time in American history? You would've been putting your life at risk.
This experiment was completely a product of the digital age. Even when the reverse was done in the book “Black Like Me,” there's always that chance you could be discovered, but here that's extremely unlikely unless someone is a hacker. The Internet is sort of what a car is to road rage. The glass and steel create this bubble of perceived safety, which amplifies people's rage, but keeps them from having to deal with the consequences of that rage. There is an honesty that is exposed in the process.
How did it feel to assume the identity of a person who — if real — would presumably hate you and everything you represent?
It was painful at first. I'm still me. This isn't like the blind Dave Chapelle KKK character who didn't know he was black. To get beneath the pain, I had to begin to dissociate from myself as a black person. The pin pricks didn't go away, but it began to feel like a character study. I've acted before, and the muscle I developed learning theater allowed me to do this. Acting teaches you that you can't just act, you have to be, so I would sort of tell myself I was Daniel Day Lewis or Denzel Washington becoming a role.
As you became more familiar with the alt-right online, what shocked you most about their views?
That there are still people who think black people are not fully human and that we are lagging in terms of evolution. The comments I'd read about our facial features being monkey-like and dark skin being proof of primitiveness were shocking. The fact is that there are people who believe that the difference between us is the difference between two species, not a race. I was raised with so many examples of black excellence and nothing about inferiority. Meanwhile, the folks on these forums are still discussing phrenology. Who uses phrenology anymore? We mapped the human genome!
I hate how no one understands what "troll" or "trolling" means anymore.
Stating an unpopular opinion is not trolling.
>Lucious25
most niggerish screename I've ever seen
in other words, he was on his way to becoming a standard Sup Forumsock. Too bad he didn't find this place; he would never be able to leave.
>Too bad he didn't find this place; he would never be able to leave.
Sup Forums, either you reject it completely or become addicted and never leave. Very brave man, was able to last 8 months and drop Sup Forums cold turkey.
I infiltrated Sup Forums 13 years ago. I 'm still undercover.
>“I would literally spend days clicking through my new racist profile, goofing off at work in Aryan land.”
So he reinforces the lazy nigger stereotype
good job
Meh, 80% of posters on this board are shitskins LARPing as White Nationalists, attempting to bait whites into doing something that will make them look bad.
America being 56% white isn't a meme. Of course there are consequences, even for this board.
yes i know I've explained this to people thousands of times and it just doesn't stick.... they've co-opted our words and now they use them incorrectly for their benefit, did you really think that liberals would develop a sense of shame over being completely wrong now?
He knows. Once you see the truth you can't forget about it. He chose to close his eyes.
>Living is easy with eyes closed...
John Lennon
>offering an endless stream of scapegoats for their problems but no credible solutions.
>credible
Our solutions are entirely credible.
Man this guy is triggering this thread hard as fuck. Look at those replies. Who are you trying to convince with those replies? Other participants? Yourselves? The events that take place because of this sort of cognitive dissonance will be studied for decades I'm sure. Fear not Sup Forums you make have wasted your lives but you have proven to be valuable test subjects. I too will continue to engage with this community to study it and the effects it has on its profligates
No dude you don't understand the point of this place. Most here are also confused.
As western society falls into decadence with everyone blaming racist or communist or whatever, this place just laughs at all the hysteria. It's all you can do at this point.
Perhaps someone in the future will look back and wonder what could have been.
so Sup Forums are acting like niggers
>no credible solutions
Because the only credible solution is the final one.
Not really. When the problem is such widespread and seemingly all-powerful, entrapping us all in its web of deceit, how can we realistically have a credible solution? When our influence is reliant on a network run entirely by the enemy, we don't have many realistic options.
You managed to leave out some prominent points which Sup Forums would had likely agree with for the intention of gaining reactions.
The most negative, or what Sup Forums would likely find stupid if they're relatively smart is that the dude's highlighting that we've got to abandon tribalism, but then the dude's getting personall asshurt on behalf of his own race, highlighting he's had it hard. He's kind of borderline sapient when it comes to recognition of perspectives, but is still stuck in that bullshit. So he's as bad as the far-right echo chambers.
Ain't nothing natural about a nation's government intentionally making it difficult for caucasian people to actually form families, half of this LGBT, Diversity, anti-family bullshit comes straight from government of corporation funded programs. Ain't natural at all.
>slavery was a work of Charity
nobody thinks that. Everybody here agrees that slavery was bad.
>InfoWars
>Alt-Right
If he spent 8 months doing this I think he'd learn eventually.
>questioning Obamas birthplace
Nobody has done that for 6 years.
This man is a liar.
After spending time in the white supremacist universe, do you consider all of them “bad people”?
It's wise to avoid absolutes. “Bad” generally means “irredeemable” and “disposable.” Therefore, if I thought everyone in the alt-right were any of these, the experiment would be useless.
You mention that in their forums they're also seeking “answers” to questions. What are they trying to resolve?
In today's America, they're struggling to understand why they'll have less opportunity than their father's generation. They also want answers to basic questions about race in America, such as: What's the point of multiculturalism? Why can only black people say the “N” word? How is racism not over when LeBron James and Oprah have huge bank accounts? How is affirmative action anything other than reverse racism? Why shouldn't I be proud to be white if someone else is proud to be black?
He wasn't posting here you idiots. If he did, he would have analyzed the community differently. Not necessarily less negatively, but differently.
Just another nigger aka non white aka anti white male nigger. That wants your jobs future and everything whether they built it or earned it or not. It is the nigger way at its very core to be a commie since they are in fact sub human on multiple levels and always will be genetically.
When was the last time a mosquito apologized for sucking your blood?
What forums did he frequent? Does it say?
Theo E.J. Wilson
About
Theo E. J. Wilson , also known by his poet handle, “Lucifury,” is a modern Renaissance Man. His natural knack for artistic expression had him dabbling in, and even mastering almost every art form he put his hands to. Battling manic depression from and early age, this knack would save his life, and shape an award-winning career as a spoken word artist, pianist, actor, singer, rapper, dancer, and activist. Theo is a founding member of the Denver Slam Nuba team, who won the National Poetry Slam in 2011. He began his speaking career in the N.A.A.C.P. at the age of 15, and has always had a passion for social justice. He attended Florida A&M University, where he obtained his B.A. in Theater Performance. Upon graduating, he interned as a full time actor in St. Louis Black Repertory Company, where he was introduced to Slam Poetry, and has never looked back. In 2004, he returned to Denver, winning many local slams against Denver’s top competitors. He won the 2007 Erotic Poetry Slam in Austin, Texas, and in 2009, he had the honor of placing 5th in the world at the International World Poetry Slam.
>struggling to understand
Nah, we've got that part figured out.
Theo E. J. Wilson @lucifury 17 Oct 2016
Watching Trump unravel is nice. Then, I realized Hillary is so corrupt, he's the only candidate she can beat...and I was saddened.
If you air a viewpoint with the aim to elicit a certain response instead of honestly expressing your beliefs you are trolling. The term has lost it's meaning because no one really has any honestly held beliefs anymore. The youtube commenters this guy is referring to are racist trolls but they do good work.
kek. nigger furthers his career by pretending to be white.
Kikes ran the slave trade and slavery is a nigger tradition. So why are white peoples cities and towns and governments and nations supposed to be for non whites and niggers now? They will never stop saying they deserve everything and more. It is the lefts anti white worker agenda and always will be. Anti White Male Agenda. Tax you to niggers who you set free after Kikes and Masons Illegally owned them and brought them over. They make white people pay when a nigger stabs a white baby to death or shoots some woman in a parking garage or some other nigger shooting a white baby in the face.
ALL NIGGERS SHOULD HANG!
>Meanwhile, the folks on these forums are still discussing phrenology. Who uses phrenology anymore? We mapped the human genome!
And the results are even more damning.
>Everybody here agrees that slavery was bad.
Speak for yourself. I'm ambivalent.
>Lucious25
>undercover
SHHHH! We are all aryans on Sup Forums...we are all aryans.
>Everybody here agrees that slavery was bad.
Oh fuck you. There's slavery still all over Africa. If it's so fucking bad, why aren't we bombing them right now? You only think it's bad if WHITE PEOPLE do it.
Go fuck yourself.
This is a meet up from cosmopolitan Jew York mind you. Mongrel city but it does prove a point. Not every non white is anti white.
even with jews gone, you'll still have a nigger/ r-select problem
>was able to last 8 months and drop Sup Forums cold turkey.
seriously doubt he came here. Sounds like all he did was hang out in the "alt-right & alt-light" side of youtube, maybe joined a facebook group or 2. Even on TRS, Stormfront, or Anglin's forum, he'd probably need more than 8 months to get a name for himself and be trusted enough to have a good back and forth with other users.
also he's doing
>TEDx
bullshit. So IMO he's already inherently dishonest b/c those things are such bullshit filled vapid circle jerks. He's taken baby's first redpill and presenting himself as living deep on the other side when he's only just scratched the surface. He is either totally ignorant or is intentionally dishonest of many things that you would find on Sup Forums (eg: Jordan Peterson, Molymeme, and Jared Taylor) that require you to back up your beliefs with deep thought and valid arguments.
>Not every non white is anti white
I agree to an extent but retard memelords aren't an example of it.
Yep they will attack and kill Masons and Jews and their neighboring neighbors AKA White Men of the South. Who rise up because they are white people and the Souths money was starting to rival the Norths greed for take over and to end a practice that was still going on in the North even after the war. Probably in Kike and Nigger homes! They love to virtue signal the left and niggers and libshits and anti whites. They should all fucking HANG!
>(eg: Jordan Peterson, Molymeme, and Jared Taylor)
>not babbysfirst intellectuals
Molymeme is the worst by far though, he's not even an intellectual.
It's bad if anyone does it, the west shouldn't be whipping itself because we had slaves though. We were the first to end slavery in this world, while others still today practice it. It's a terrible practice that doesn't allow individuals to chase their own destiny. The west should be commended, for being the first to end slavery, not condemned for doing it, because fucking everyone did it.
As to why we aren't fighting wars to end slavery? Well user welcome to the military industrial complex where we let evil shit slide, while killing people who have resources that we want.
>offering an endless stream of scapegoats for their problems but no credible solutions
Sup Forums in a nutshell, based black man.
>It's bad if anyone does it
Why?
>That there are still people who think black people are not fully human and that we are lagging in terms of evolution. The comments I'd read about our facial features being monkey-like and dark skin being proof of primitiveness were shocking. The fact is that there are people who believe that the difference between us is the difference between two species, not a race. I was raised with so many examples of black excellence and nothing about inferiority. Meanwhile, the folks on these forums are still discussing phrenology. Who uses phrenology anymore? We mapped the human genome!
this guy sounds like he grew up in a Cosby family bubble of black elitists.
maybe so, but my point still stands. He doesn't even address Moly's points.
>you'll still have a nigger/ r-select problem
And who is going to bitch about our k-select strategies to replace them?
I'm surprised no one pointed out that he was goofing off at work like a stereotypical nignog.
>but no credible solutions
>credible
i.e. no solutions I agree with.
>offering an endless stream of scapegoats for their problems but no credible solutions.
>(((((scapegoats)))))
We have solutions. You've clearly been here all of one day. Time for you to take your faggot ass back to plebbit before the gassing begins. Sure as fuck not changing anyone's minds with your futile little attempts at raids.
Imagine if you were a slave, you are under control of another individual. You have no free will, anything that you want to achieve you can't because your slave master won't allow it. If you're driven and want a better life for yourself you can't have it. Your life your own existence is dedicated to another person and if you dare try and free yourselves they will break you. They will beat you, lock you up, mutilate you simply for wanting to be a free person.
and I'm not surprised you didn't bother to read the thread before posting that
>He needed 8 months to study us
Now I'm a dumb nigger but that guy is a fucking DUMB nigger. Holy shit.
> twisted facts and false history.
> alternative universe where history, politics and commonly accepted facts had been turned inside out.
Notice how everything they accuse us of being, they actually are. Example:
>that freed blacks owned more blacks than whites before the Civil War
Notice they left out the "per capita" part.
>Imagine if you were a slave
Stopped reading.
This mentality that blacks have is the main reason why they are the only race I truly hate.
Yeah I missed that one.
come to the point, i'm not reading this nigger's brain fart
Back then you were glad to be alive, faggot.
The new shills can't even last 15 minutes. SAD!
I prefer the "black solutions" to society's ills
Oh wait
>deez white supremacist lying and spreading fake info but I won't put ant examples in here!
Kek, unless he has examples of the lies and why they are wrong it seems like he can't counter the cracker supremacists and their points so he just makes it sound like a bunch of robots ingesting propaganda.
I would love to see the white identity arguments btfo'd but all I ever see is criticism of the person making the argument, never a well written coy her argument. Makes it seem like the alt right is right.
>>the idea that slavery was a form of charity
Objectively true. The choice the African warlords had to make was to either kill the nigger or sell him to the Europeans. The charity is your granddaddy's life. You're welcome.
>Freed blacks owned more slaves than whites before the Civil War
Are we talking about per capita?
>that people of color make up the majority of those receiving aid from America's safety-net programs
Yeah, that's 100% factual, PER CAPITA.
>and that investor and philanthropist George Soros is funding protest movements like Black Lives Matter
This is a fact. They get funding through his (((NGO's))).
The nigger knows. He knows that this is true but he's deliberately misrepresenting the truth.
As Robert E Lee said, slavery was an immeasurable harm to the white race by making them the perpetrators and defenders of an inexcusable moral evil.
American whites effectively have a second Original Sin, even though African slavery was an African invention
>Imagine if you were a slave, you are under control of another individual.
Like being under the control of ((certain)) individuals nowadays? Negroid slavery ended over 150 years, the aforementioned kind is currently going on.
Arabs are worse than blacks, look at london...
...
>study by Richard Weinberg
>scratches chin
>reasonable doubt of the jew
Liberals are very arrogant that way.
London is like that simply becausd britbongs are faggots.
Global blacks are gremlins that are toxic parasites when more than 2 are gathered together
just wait until they start making separate IQ scales for blacks
oh, or they make the mandatory IQ tests only for voters with drivers licenses for some bullshit administrative reason
I literally did the same thing as this guy. I thought it was funny to see the opposition converse and argue over different topics, but I soon I began to learn their ways, and understand their plight. The reason most can never leave this place is because slowly but surely, a picture begins to form but you only get scattered pieces from various threads making you want to know more, dig deeper. When all the pieces of the enigmatic puzzle come together and you see what was so obvious all along, you are trapped outside the system and there is never another way back in.
The red pill is honestly the best analogy anyone can give. You see your family in a different light, your friends, your coworkers, even your fucking spouse. You want to tell them, warn them of the danger but at this point, akin to the ravings of madman who has seen eldritch gods or the like, you would only come off as crazy or radicalized, they would never believe you or take you seriously.
So here you return. One of the few places you can openly speak your mind with others that are in the very same fucking boat.
You are here forever.
>I spent 8 moths studying youtube comments
>op posted absolutely no source
>Cant read article except for what OP has cherry picked
What quality post..
What happens if an actual cute aryan female goes to a pol meetup? Asking for a friend
This will backfire spectacularly when 90% of democratic black voters get turned away at the polls.
ficki ficki
>slavery as charity
It was arguably better to be a black slave in America than to live in Africa
>freed blacks owned more slaves than whites
No, but the fact that freed blacks and American indians owned slaves at all is not commonly appreciated, nor is the fact that the slave trade in Africa long predates European involvement, with the Islamic world and other Africans as the culprits.
>People of color get most benefit from America's safety net programs
Per capita, obviously, what is wrong with these people
>Soros funds BLM
Its not like he hides this? How on earth is this a "far right" talking point, he's proud of his involvement in funding various left wing movements. Say what you want about Soros, he actually believes what he says he believes
Sheez you know how many alt right on all sites are larp'ing other-somethings? Maybe as much as 50%
But he's special.
Fuckin' nigger.
Holy fuck what a faggot
if they give
>her
any troubles, just tell
>her
whip out
>her
dick to show them who's boss.
>spoken word artist, pianist, actor, singer, rapper, dancer, and activist
>renaissance man
"Hey fellow Aryans, isn't it true that they were kangz? I think I read something about that in the local Klan circular."
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>spend 8 fucking months shitposting
>THEY'RE ALL SCAPEGOATS
What a fufking retard.
>this fucking thread
good nigger now go take our white supremacy and go fix africa
>slavery was a form of charity that benefited enslaved Africans
From Aristotle's Politics:
"But among barbarians no distinction is made between women and slaves, because there is no natural ruler among them: they are a community of slaves, male and female. Wherefore the poets say . . ."
. . . Where then there is such a difference as that between soul and body, or between men and animals (as in the case of those whose business is to use their body, and who can do nothing better), the lower sort are by nature slaves, and it is better for them as for all inferiors that they should be under the rule of a master.
It is clear, then, that some men are by nature free, and others slaves, and that for these latter slavery is both expedient and right."
This is bullshit.
Have you ever been to conneticut? Lol
>a black man
nigger FTFY stopped reading
>Takes a nigger 8 months to learn what two weeks on Sup Forums would teach a white man.
Tell me again about how we are all the same?