Garibaldi is an idiot

He's a commie, that's the first thing

He tried unifying a bunch of people who speak different languages, that kinda have similarities. It's literally Yugoslavia across the water. He took a bunch of Italic ethenitc groups, some of which speak fucking German, and united them. He even tried getting nice and Corsica to be part of Italy. He destroyed countless cultures. Italian isn't even a real language. It's just a bastardization of Tuscan

If you ever want to see someone speaking Sicilian, or barese, or napolitan, then go to America. If the itlaianizaiton trend continues, the only place to see rational cultures will be America

And he's a fucking commie. Did I say that already?

BALKANIZE ITALY

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Garibaldi was a buffoon but Mazzini was alright.

Nice was just because he was born there.

I think you mean he WAS an idiot, afaik he's been dead for more than a century...

He was also a Freemason and an enemy of the Church.

Well, yeah

Didn't Mazzini also support A pan-European state?

I knew he hated the church but I didn't know about the freemasons. Probably explains a lot

You guys should read Il Gattopardo, it's a good historical novel set during the Italian Unification, specifically Garibaldi's invasion of Sicily.

I read the synopsis. It's basically how every Sicilian-American/Canadian/Australian feels

Invaded and your culture trampled upon?

Yep. I once had an Italian teacher form Rome and she literally insulted Sicilian-New Yorkers culture in front of a class full of sicilians and you can only imagine how that went

Correction, she insulted sicilians in front of Sicilian New Yorkers

It's fun how people (especially many uneducated Americans) assume that European countries are culturally homogeneous. Even though racially they (mostly) are, we are closer to being confederations of smaller nations united under a single government. Take the cases of Spain, Germany and Italy, for instance.

you can balkanize any country like that if you scrutinize enough

It's more like the special snowflake difference between them are utterly trivial

Kys jew. Italy is best country. Best language. Best culture. Most intelligent people there are. Nobody picks Italy. Everybody picks Jizzrael

You wouldn't consider the North, South, Midwest and West Coast the same, would you?

Maybe if you've never left your house you would, but those differences aren't exactly small. Across the pond, the differences are more noticeable.

The funny thing is the only people that really understand that are Italian Americans because their parents raised them to say their from their city or Provence. If you ask everyone in Brooklyn where their from, unless they really don't know, they'll say bari, Sicily, Naples, Calabria, milan, etc.

Irish don't realize how different northern Irish are

Ukrainians and even some polish (the stupid ones) call themselves Russians, a long with people from other former soviet republics

Germans call themselves German
Spainiards (except for me) call themselves Spanish

Balkanisons Italy makes a lot more sense than Balkanize get America for example

Italians didn't even speak the sa,w language until the early 1900s when somebody decided everyone should speak the same language so they picked the Tuscan dialect, changed some rules, and called it Italian

The Balkanization of America is immanente, it's only a matter of time.
If Catalonia breaks away that will trigger a whole Balkanization crisis in Europe, which will make its way across the world.

In 10 years southerner secretley hoping the south will rise again won't be afraid to say it out loud

Català, galego o Euskaldun?

Galego y euskaldun

Yo Euskaldun, criado en Galicia kek

Grandmother was born in Basque Country, grandfather was born in Galicia

>tfw grandfather literally speaks sicilian
It sounds really wierd

I speak both languages quite fluently, but I'm still divided internally over what I should consider myself. Should I consider my bloodline or the place I grew up in?

>the only place to see rational cultures will be america
You mean the place that brings together and unites various ethnic groups and cultures. Why are you fucking retarded?

I also have Sicilian and English blood so I really consider myself 4 things just like everyone else in America. My grandparents actually did a good job assimilating so I unfortunately don't speak a word of any of those

Even though I'm American I still like to look into European provincial nationalism

Bar France, Russia and Spain other European nations are way more homogeneous

I have friends that speak Sicilian and until they got to high school Italian class they thought they were speaking Italian

Wogs can't be Australian or Canadian. Our civilizations are Northern European British Dominions. The rest are just visiting

France you can divide into occitania, nice, the French basqu country, Roussillon, Brittany, and Normandy. Also Dunkirk belongs to Flanders

Spain has the Castilian, Andalus, basques, galicians, catalans, cantabrians, leonese, araginese

Russia I'm not sure about but I'm sure you can divide it even more

>on this map places where Italian is spoken
I'm also familiar with the Greeks and asians in Australia

Nah, ethnic Russians, except those who mixed with subhuman cockholes in the Far East are really really similar. It's nonwhite small regions that are cancer. Must be fucking kicked out: nonwhite, subsidy sucking, inbred, low iq. No diversity and more money is a winning formula

Fantastic map. They are not Northern European or Anglo-Celtic. They have to go back.

Wha about the Cossacks? They're not Russian are they?

Italy got unified basically for the same reason the EU is pushing for a unified Europe: more power against foreign countries. Plus, obviously economic reasons for Piemonte to get the whole Italy for itself. Most of the struggles of the South go way back to the unification, where one-size-fit-all laws, rules and schemes were applied to radically different societies.

I love Italy as a whole. It's a beautiful country for its incredible variety, but the unification meme should be changed with something more federalistic and respectful of the histories and cultures of the Italian regions.

We were and still very proud and different from each other. Changes and (((progress))) find some tough bones here. The reason we are speaking the same language is basically just the television, starting from the 50s. Imagine what must've felt to be in the army during the world wars, not being able to understand half of what the fuck were your comrades saying.

That Russian is drunk there are dozens of cultures in Russia.

Also, Garibaldi was just naive. Read his testament. It's quite heartfelt and bitter, knowing what happened afterwards.

He really just wanted a glorious nation to stand against the widespread jewery.

Good point about the army, but Switzerland gets by pretty fine with 4 different languages being spoken

Anyway I'm sure you could've done like a HRE thing

So you're gonna deport like half the country?

The unholy not-roman Arch-Duchy was not an agreed on thing. It was the result of hundreds of years of wars and treaties, inbred dumb Emperors and French antics.

Wogs are what? 700k? 1,5-2 mil Asians? Not much cleansing to do. Not your homeland, never will be.

Hopefully.

Yea, Melbourne has the highest concentration of Greeks outside of Athens. Yes, that includes other Greek cities.

Germany is an artificial country too.
Invented by Bismarck.

Every nation is artificial, the only right its the right of conquest

t. Caracalla the Eurosemitic hybrid

In many cases, yes, but in others nations are made up of kindred peoples.

Ain't that the truth. It's only a matter of time before this happens. Some people will be shocked. Not me.

Russians have the cringiest memes

Almost every country should be smaller than it is. It's small countries like Albania, or Greece that are fine

Agreed.

XIX century nationalism was a leftist ideology by the spectrum of its times. The "right" were conservative christian monarchists, supporters of rule by divine right and heredity.
The leftists were all sorts of "republic of citizens" ideologues, supported a rule by "the people" whether on an internationalist class basis or on a national identity one.

Plus Garibaldi achieved more than you ever will.

t. Ying Fe

>Plus Garibaldi achieved more than you ever will.
Blocks your path

t. (((Anglo)))

It's still geographically the Italian peninsula, hence all regional languages are Italian.

The regional languages are different. It became one in the 50s

Numerous reactionary and monarchist elements were rooted in folkish and racialist ideals
Is he wrong? Meds didn't built Australia, Germanics and Anglos did.