Genuinely looking for answers after some deep contemplation: Are women naturally degenerate?

Please provide as much fact/statistic based evidence as possible; I'm opening my mind up to this reality against the chivalry that was instilled into me as a child.

"Woman is the eternal irony of the community."
All you need to know.

No. In fact they used to be wholesome, until their natural pull to popular culture drove them to degeneracy, look at kim kardashian.

those are some ugly thots

Three of them are pretty hot. But definitely sluts, which brings down their value.

They are herd followers. If it's trendy to act like a ho, they will act li,e a ho.

look at the hip-to-thigh ratio man
these women suck

Women are mindless conformists. If the culture is degenerate, then they will be degenerate.

These

yes retard think about it

they have a clock ticking away inside of them screaming at them "WE MUST CARRY THE HUMAN RACE FORWARD, FIND SOME SPERM BEFORE THE EGGS GO BAD!!!!!!!!!!"

their biology is what it is...

>But definitely sluts, which brings down their value.

only in your gay limp dicked world it does

Yeah, I don't know what;s up with that. I was going mostly by face, figuring they're young and that would sort itself.

>all skinnyfat
into the trash

Elles essaye toujours de ce comparée a des "TOP MODÈLE" et quand elles voie pas de concluant elle perde confiance et tombe etre movaise compagnes!

people are naturally degenerate

Seriously WTF happened to strict conservative women?
My mother was a literally "no fun allowed" rigorous women like most women in the 80'-90's
I feel pity for the children of the scumbags in OPs pic.

Women are not naturally anything but led by men. If men lead them well, they do well. If men lead them astray, they go astray. If men don't lead them at all, they let themselves be led by other women, with disastrous results.

Women aren't naturally degenerate for the reason that their basic biological programming wants them to be constructive, i.e. to be a wife and a mother.

No bunda, no diamond

>Seriously WTF happened to strict conservative women?
That shit's boring and nobody actually likes it except depressed NEETs.

the La-li-lu-le-lo?

go back to watching porn and stuffing your face full of hormones nigger

I wonder if those girls were degenerate enough to lez out with each other in a big sweaty pile later?
truly horrifying to think about such degeneracy.

Women are simply as degenerate as their father allows them to be

They naturally take in cum, be dominatef and suck dick
So Yes

Yes. "Good" women are women who are raised in a society that doesn't leave female nature unchecked and left to fester out of control.

it's the opposite. conservative women are better for the same reason trophies are awarded to people who WIN at sports, not just handed out freely to anyone who wants one. maybe party sluts are interesting to 13 year olds who never got their dick wet before?

See what I mean? Depressed NEET. Faggot, idiot, wastoid. Nobody likes you fucks.

enjoy your distopia nigger

First don't do chivalry, that is the only thing that I am 100% sure is pure cuck behavior.
Second just wait for the sex robots and artificial wombs no need to waste shitloads of money on women who age get fat and nag.

kek, can't deny it, i'm brazilian to the core

U > T > (left)S > S > L

>just wait for sex bots goyim, we wouldnt want you to further the existence of your people now would we?

they're animals and have to be trained and kept on a short leash

Now I've got that fucking Stones song "Angie" in my head, thanks a lot

that family is fucked

>enjoy your distopia nigger
I will. I am a pirate after all. Chaos and disorder are my cup of tea. I stand to make out like a bandit.

i would bang the living shit out of that and I'd make her cervix pop with a good deep dicking and she would make me a sammich

why do you think i was calling you a nigger?

Japanese women arent

you could actually do that, IIRC she's like 5'3.
if latinas were taller there wouldn't be any downside mixing with them tbqh

Because you're butthurt.

pirates = niggers
same fuckin thing

Only faggots obey the law.
Niggers just get caught. Because they're stupid.

>I'm opening my mind up to this reality against the chivalry that was instilled into me as a child.
I am not a scientist or a fucking educated person by any means at all however chivarly is not the way to get women especially during their peak (late teens early 20's).

Being a chivarlous gentleman is not how you get laid. Being a gentleman gets you put on the backburner (what is called the friendzone) till the woman is older and now needs to settle down after having their fun.

Women go for and fuck asshole men in their peak then settle down with the betas as it is even shown that women go for the dark triad when it comes to fucking men.

That alone should show you something whether it be my experience or the thousands of other assholes like me.

so youre a nigger?

The Pill was invented

/thread

Women are a reflection of their authority. When men put women on a pedestal in the western world during the Victorian era. They simply became what the men in their life desired. In the modern era, the authority of women is government and media. So they become consumers who obey the egalitarianism ideology government instructs them to follow in state run schools. Women are not capable of guiding themselves, they will always lead to ruin. They do not hold their own ideas, beliefs, values. They will always be a reflection of their authority in life. In a healthy society this authority is her father, then her husband. Women serve to reinforce values, you see them reinforcing poor ones currently because our society is rotting.

L is the only bangable one imho

couldn't even rate the others, they'd fall around 2-4s and the L would be like an 7-8

If you want. I don't care.
Only idiots get hung up on names and petty insults.

Real men do meth, jerk it to loli porn, and run stop signs.

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Geo flags are retarded.

But otherwise a woman can be anything you want them to be. The problem men have with women is that they do not even know what they want out of life. Women are eternal supporters, if you don't have anything they can support you with, they will be confused, lost, unhappy. Women have three primary lens they view the people in their life through which determines how they generally interact with them.
1. Authority (Chad is my everything)
2. Family (Stacy is totally my BFF)
3. Children (aw, I'm sorry that happened to you user, let me give you a hug)

If you want a woman, you need to have ambition and what you'll get out of life. Many men confuse confidence for ambition. Know what you want out of life, start pursuing it, then when you find a woman you want, put her to work in supporting you towards your goal.

If you want to fix the women of a society OP, fix the men, help them follow their dreams/goals, help them to know that their traditional role is to lead/guide.

>If you want to fix the women of a society OP, fix the men, help them follow their dreams/goals, help them to know that their traditional role is to lead/guide.
I am following my goals in dreams however my goals and dreams are not marry and have a family and similar bullshit like that but my own personal mission in life.

Also you have to enable the society which would let men legally control women again unlike now if men tried to control women they would be thrown in prison for some form of abuse.

Yes

No, like men they can be influenced by hedonism, albeit to differing degrees. They also respond differently to emotions and stimulus, to a greater or lesser degree compared to men. Something people need to remember is that we're both human, our past social interactions, evolutionary responsibilities, and upbringings however is what dictates our actions in the present.

Result of feminism and laws that allow skanks to get money for being sluts whores and getting pregnant. Take away child support and they will stop this.

Huh, tricky proxy.

in general, yes, but men can be as well if they have no discipline or morals. it's up to a man to instill these into women/kids. women are there for the other things. women generally are clueless as to what they are doing, will do, or want to do. they need to follow the group mind to know. this is often why women do what you see in the pic (if other women do it, it's ok), despite what men think (that they look like sluts/prostitutes and makes us think even less of them).

every single time women have been given power in history it turns out the same. every. single. time. there have been very very few successful matriarchies for a reason.

Did she get a breast reduction, or something? I'd still commit war crimes for her.

>Not marry and have a family
>Continuing my blood line is not a goal of mine

Then you're a genetic dead end and probably shouldn't be to concerned about women in the first place.

>Enable the society which would let men
>Society that would let men
>Let men
Men are society, women cannot guide themselves, a company, much less a country. They cannot handle stress or pressure. If you want to fix society and restore a proper patriarchy, it starts with convincing the men who do rule things to take women off the pedestal and return them to their place as supporters of men, to properly guide them in doing so. Nothing is going to change as long as men have this misguided view of women having power over them.

>Unlike now if men tried to control women they would be thrown in prison for some form of abuse
Sure if you beat her, telling a woman to do x is not illegal as far as I'm aware as long as x itself is not illegal.

Truth. Nice guys finish last is a reality. Bitches wanna be used by assholes, at their core they love being degraded and kept in their place. An asshole with game and looks can keep fucking 18 year olds into his 40s easy.

Women start going downhill at 30, their looks are fading fast, their eggs are dying, so they have to start attaching themselves to betas who won't cheat on them or leave them...because they are chivalrous good boys.

>Something people need to remember is that we're both human, our past social interactions, evolutionary responsibilities, and upbringings however is what dictates our actions in the present.
False. Women are not like men, if a father raises his daughter to be traditional and takes the role of authority while instructing her to do so, she will. If she leaves his sphere of influence and gains a new authority who tells her to be a whore, she will. Women do not hold values, they do not tend to reflect on past events and learn from them. They are not analytical unless it's necesary skill to please their authority in which it will happen within that context. As long as you and other men like you are under the false assumption of sameness you will not be happy or find yourself having positive interactions with women.

>Feminism
Not true. It was pure capitalists and other political movements which guided women into starting feminism in the first place and this goes back to the 18th century (in relation to modern age it goes back through all human history technically) Some wanted women to serve as voting pawn, others to flood the labor force to reduce cost. Women did not one day decide they wanted to be 'free of men' Women do not have their own unique ideas and thoughts, they have ideas and thoughts within the influence of their authority

What a sad day in age. Mankind is still primitive, and yet they believe thy rule the Universe. This is a mockery to our existence as well as every lgbt cunt that breathes. The evolution of intelligence and progress is going backwards, degrading and destroying itself. I dont blame kikes, niggers, white trash or the garbage pale kids of india and asian countries. I blame every individual for being rotten to an apple core. No one deserves to live. It's a gift to feel pleasure and a trivial pursuit for pain. Enjoy your time here, it doesn't last long.

Women of our era became whores because the men and media in their life told them that's what they wanted. In the 60s-80s women who didn't put out where looked down upon, they where 'prudes' now women put out all the time and they're 'whores'. Women of any society are a reflection of their men/authority

I finished highschool recently and I know for a fact that every girl in my year is not a virgin.

This alone should be proof.

What we're seeing is what happens when the natural laws are not followed. Every single civilization in history goes through these kinds of things. When they follow the laws, they become great, when they don't, they fall. They fall to a previous stage of societal development and as time goes on they see if they can climb up once more, perhaps longer this time. There is absolutely nothing unique about the situation of the current state of society. It has happened many times. Take comfort in the fact that all of this is part of a cycle fueled by the shortsightedness of man, rather then some unique end of times scenario

Our generation is left with the task of trying to form a pile of mud into a "snow woman."
I would say looking for women should be secondary for everyone here. What you need to do is form a large peer group of men on the same page.
So when you get the gf she is brought into this society you have created where none of the men take any shit from women and all of them encourage femininity and tradition.
Together you will be able to condition your gfs/wives to be traditional and worthwhile.

Or at least I think this is much more viable than just being a loner user that tries to have the authority of a whole community on his own when all the media is telling his gf to be a whore.

18 here
probably have had multiple sexual partners also

i could do it if she was 6'3. my old man is a gambling addict and i didnt have toys to play with growing up.

>What you need to do is form a large peer group of men on the same page.
>and all of them encourage femininity and tradition.
>Together you will be able to condition your gfs/wives to be traditional and worthwhile.
Yes Individually all of us need to continually strive for personal development in all things we're able. Form groups with the intention of forming communities, encourage traditional values which abide by natural laws

> Take comfort in the fact that all of this is part of a cycle

And we drew the short straw by being born during the shit part of the cycle

>Not fucking only virgins or woman that have only had sex with you

This is bordering on degeneracy user

context?

women are inferior beings 17% less brain mass, emotionally driven, etc. what do ytou expect_ we neeed a true patriarchy(not even islam is a patriarchy, also they are sand niggers) tofix the world and keep them in check

>Then you're a genetic dead end and probably shouldn't be to concerned about women in the first place.
I might have a kid however if i do i won't take care of it and i will only be around thanksgiving and Christmas
>Men are society, women cannot guide themselves
However other men in society will bust down your door and throw you in the back of the paddywagon if the woman says you beat her or raped her so that is how we cannot fix society as other men will throw us in prison.
>men who do rule things to take women off the pedestal and return them to their place as supporters of men
Supporters of men is cuck language as men are clearly the better ones in any relationship. The thing about marriage is that the man trades resources so she can have his kids and fuck her and that all it is about.

Not her supporting the man but rather her trading her resource for his resource.
>Nothing is going to change as long as men have this misguided view of women having power over them.
Women only have power because of white knight male enforcement of it. Women are the ones who can call the cops on you for beating her and have men with guns throw you in prison.
>Sure if you beat her, telling a woman to do x is not illegal as far as I'm aware as long as x itself is not illegal.
It is not illegal but there is no legal obligation for her to do jackshit in marriage. If tell your bitch wife to do something or get the fuck out you can still get divorce raped and ruined because of of it because the courts don't give a fuck about you and unless you have the power to legally punish your wife (aka beat her) you have no power over her as she will just call the popo to drag your ass away.

meant that most the women in my school have had multiple sexual partners
i would only marry and fuck women who have only fucked me

Individualism is not what I'm talking about at all. I'm not saying you should not do that but that is entirely beside the point I'm making and may hurt it.

If you had a society of men that were all blue collar shit-kicking slobs but you worked together to control your women: I believe that society would have longer, more stable marriages than a bunch of professional men focused on their individual worth.

>we drew the short straw by being born during the shit part of the cycle
Perhaps, I think it's more exciting this way personally. We will be tasked with creating a whole new society/world from scratch.Think of the housing bubble burst coming up for example. It will likely start when all the boomers start dying off since they're largely the only ones still buying. Houses which currently go for a million could be knocked down to more realistic prices for people in generation y.

Think about who the new aristocrats / leaders /pillars of the community will be for generation y. To be above the rest all you have to do is have zero debt, some real world skills, and ambition. Every industry is available to start businesses in, before long real estate /renters will be open too.

Things look good for those who will rebuild /start the cycle over.

Checked

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They fuck up their own genes. Slutty women attract any sort of man. Usually end up with fuck heads because they don't know their head from their own assholes, don't wear condoms, impregnate, then do a terrible job being fathers.

A man of value will pick a woman who does not spread her legs, mainly because so the man can trust the kids to be his (instinct). But you also need a great mother figure. Greatest man have had even greater mothers raising them. Kids are raised by their mothers and supported by their fathers. Be a good dad, but prior to that, pick a good mom-to-be. The more you can achieve father figure status before being one, the better choices you'll have, but amongst those will be wolves too. Tread lightly. Your entire worth depends on it.

Did you not understand what I typed or did you not think about what I said?
>Women are not like men
>respond differently to emotions and stimulus
>upbringings however is what dictates our actions in the present

Perhaps I should've added a strong social system and a non degenerate society as well? I agree that to a far greater degree, women will not be the sweet little girl their fathers raised if the society they are apart of is sick.

Past social interactions, biology, and upbringing have different levels of influence on men and women. I never claimed sameness nor equality, not once. To be human is not to be equal to the man next to you, we do comprise one species though, do we not?

>Bitches wanna be used by assholes
Alot more then just being used but being used is part of it. Women love the excitement of the crazy asshole as who knows what the fuck we will do next?

You will never predict my behavior and part of that is a turn on for women because at any time i can start shit or do something to her if i want to if you get me pissed off who knows what the fuck i might do as i might break windows, cut myself, attack others, attack the woman i am with. damage property etc.

I am a fucking animal and i pretty state to any woman i am not a good guy, i ain't a gentleman if you care about safety you should not date me or deal with me but even then they keep on coming.

They still wanna know what is in my head or contact me.
>Women start going downhill at 30
Women start going downhill at 25.

All good user

By the time society starts to get rebuilt for the better, our generation is going to be crusty and old. You forget that society still has to collapse entirely, then go through a period of economic and humanitarian woe, then extremely gradually start building up again.

That's going to take years.

>look at the seat
>it has brown fucking smears all over it

FFFFFFF NEED MORE

>Women start going downhill at 25
Women start going downhill at 21.

>Women start going downhill at 21.
25 Is my personal limit and that is when the wall really begins taking place but i can see how at 21 they go down hill.

>Even the possibility of having offspring is coupled with the understanding of not raising it yourself
Like I said, genetic dead end. With that approach in mind even if you reproduce your child will probably kill themselves anyway without a healthy father figure.

>As other men will throw us in prison
Thus why I said fixing society can only be done by fixing the men of it

>Having your woman be your eternal supporter in everything you aim to do is cuck language
What?

>Men are clearly the better ones in any relationship
The male-female dynamic is much like a man and his dog. Your dog will only turn out as good as you train it. Sure you can say you're better then the dog, but who cares?

>The thing about marriage
Historically marriage was a purchase, you gave items/resources to her father and he gave you his daughter to be yours. It is also viewed as a joining of families, but really it boiled down to purchasing a man's daughter. Some marriage ceremonies still have the 'giving away' part for symbolic reasons.

Modern marriage is
1. Ceremony with little to no actual meaning/value
2. A permit from the government acknowledging the joining

Both the original purpose and meaning of marriage is largely gone. I don't care for it and don't encourage others to pursue it outside a ceremony which has the potential to still be a joining of the families bit and can be enjoyable.

>Her trading her resources
Women have no resources, even their womb is not a resource. They cannot raise offspring on their own anymore they can lead/do anything else on their own. Once you have them well trained, it's quite hands off though. No long term micromanagement needed.

Women are the eternal supporters of men because without men they would perish.

It's paint.

ATF coming to take a /k/ommando's guns

>Women only have power because of white knights
Women don't have power, the white knights do. The dragon controls the princess until the knight saves her, and then it's a transfer of possession from dragon to knight. The princess has no control over it or the knight.

shooped

Every religion under the sun says "Yes"
All our actual traditions (long since forgotten - like fathers getting final say on marriage) also say "Yes"

Like tons of women, they use push-up bras, or push-up clothing that shoves their tits up to their throats. Tits are very flexible. When a woman has cleavage that both tits touch each other, or look big in the upper area, they are push-up tits. Women who do this end up with nasty flat sagging tits

Im going by bodies and L is fat.

Individualism and collectivism are two approaches to the same thing. There is quite a lot of overlap, for example the first hierarchy is a family, with the man at the top. The success of the whole (family) depends upon the merit of the man (individual) have you heard of complex systems theory? It's a pretty good idea of how societies and the individuals within them work.

>Blue collar vs professional
A society will have both, hierarchy is expanded from one family to many. With each family taking a place on the ladder. But every family is still headed by individuals. In order to further the collective (whole) you must ensure the individual does well.

Currently we also have no future.

Co-incidence?

its paint alright
her anus is the brush and the seat is the canvas

>Like I said, genetic dead end. With that approach in mind even if you reproduce your child will probably kill themselves anyway without a healthy father figure.
If they kill themselves they could have a kid before their suicide but even not all kids raised by single mothers go on to kill themselves.

Technically speaking if i just knock some woman up and she gives birth then i am not a genetic dead end as my DNA has passed on.
>Women have no resources, even their womb is not a resource
The ideal of marriage is that by marrying women give up the rights of their womb to their husband along with their cunt, tits and asshole however this was in the old era when men had rights over women.

I do not disagree with much you are saying here but marriage in the past was based on it.

Also for the last point women would just kill each other without men stopping it.

>Women don't have power, the white knights do
The white knights enable the women to have power via proxy. Of course the women cannot do jackshit however if they call the white knights then they will come to arrest you and by that women have power however it is only proxy power that can be taken away at any time by our whim.