Both are ethno-nationalist ideals that believe in a racial state based on a supposed ethnic supremacy.
The Nazis based there idea of the master race on crappy eugenics and a freshmen lit level reading of Nietzsche.
The Hebrews did so based on the idea of being God's "chosen people"
The Nazis believed in a greater German Reich to unify all Germanic peoples and believed in the exterminating of "lesser peoples" to achieve this.
The Hebrews were commanded by there so-called god to commit genocide, mass rape and mass enslavement of the Canaanites in order to claim their "holy land."
The Nazis pushed fantastic fictional history such as a aryan jesus, an ancient Germanic super state and other such nonsense to promote the Germans as ethnically superior.
The Hebrew oral history has tales of the Exodus, with little to no evidence , that seem to exist only to imply the Hebrews were distinct from the other tribes of the area and not just another group of Semitic polytheist that inflated their tribal god to a supreme being. (Also an oddly sexually charged issue with Egyptians.)
In modern times they both formed powerful nations that committed war crimes in "response" to a historical wrong. They also both adopted unrelated symbols and effectively claimed them for all time.
Nazism and Zionism are both false ethno supremacist viewpoints responsible for genocide. There are no "chosen people" there is no "master race."
Good luck getting them to stop conflating Zionism with Jewish led Marxism.
Sebastian Clark
Jesus loves you, OP.
Charles Kelly
Christianity was just watered down Judaism to appeal to the masses. Half the Apostolic age was just debates on how "jewey" to make the whole thing.
Its insane how an ethnic polytheistic cult morphed into a monotheistic supreme being racial supremacist cult which THEN morphed into a universalizing redemption based religion with a weird as polytheistic-as-monotheism by-way-of-an-avatar-set-up.
Its like fucking Pokemon.
Benjamin Thomas
The Jews are unirronic Nazis op.
That's the joke.
Evan Foster
No, National Socialism is the opposite of Zionism, as the Aryan collective consciousness and the Jewish collective consciousness are
>both are ethno-nationalist “Whoever doesn’t become sickened and nauseated upon making a closer acquaintance with the Talmud can put himself on display in a circus side show.” - Hitler
Hitler would be disgusted if you accused Judaism of being anything like National Socialism. It just goes to show how well the propaganda campaign after WW2 worked to occlude National Socialism's message.
Zionism is tribalist, while national socialism is anti-tribalist, which is why it opposed Jews and gypsies, among others. The rest of your post just shows your ignorance on the matter.
read aryanism.net and then if you still think the neo-nazi depiction is the "real national socialism" you're beyond saving.
Dylan Price
>as the Aryan collective consciousness and the Jewish collective consciousness are in opposition, with one seeking unity and the other seeking division
Wyatt Stewart
One is based on self sufficiency the other is based on parasitism
Andrew Cooper
Nazi Germany never tried to subvert my country and exterminate me
Matthew Reyes
>Zionism is philosophically Analogous to Nazism or Communism, or christianity, it's all the same Solomonic slave control system
Alexander Baker
>Christianity was just watered down Judaism >Be Jew >Read the letter of the law >(((Interpret))) the law to suite your need >Be goy >Read the letter of the law >Practice the letter of the law >Be retard >Post on Sup Forums >Christianity is just watered down judaism
Juan Davis
Nazism was judaism for germans
Carter Lewis
when they treat palestinians like nazis treated jews it gets to be a little obvious that israel is filled with batshit fuckers why keep ppl in a ghetto, not let them escape, force them to only work for jews, and kill them when they resist if you are not larping as nazi jews???????
Ethan Harris
G. K. Chesterton rightly said: "Hitlerism is almost entirely of Jewish origin. The only place that the Hiterlites could have gained the idea of a "Chosen Race," is from the Jews. If there is one outstanding quality in Hitlerism it is Hebraism. The new Nordic Man has all the worst faults of the worst Jews: jealousy, greed, the mania of conspiracy, and, above all, the belief in a Chosen Race."
Noah White
Hiterlites
read: Hitlerites
Anthony Thomas
Are all the people of your ethno-nation as intelligent as you?
Charles Thomas
Your Hitlerism and your Nazism and your Adolf Hitler are the worst things that happened to Europe in all its history. It is because of them that nationalism and right-wing thought have been stigmatized in Europe for above seventy years. We are on the verge of national extinction because of them. Europeans of the past of course believed in keeping the indigenous people of the country in a majority status -- who would not? but they did not share the racial fanaticism and Master Race mania of the Nazis. Ultimately they believed that every man had freedom of will and an immortal soul. That is why nobody persecuted (say) Alexandre Dumas out of Europe on the basis that he was a "mixed-race mongrel, diluting the blood of the white race with a white woman" or some such other nonsense. Biological race fanaticism is a twentieth century peculiarity; but because of the Nazis, anybody who is against mass immigration (as Enoch Powell was, who fought the Nazis, and rightly denied the charge of being a racialist) is confounded with those who hold to that point of view.
Adrian Hall
National socialism asserts the optimality of the aryan race, whilst advocating freedom, and all that is conducive toward it, which includes fighting against anything, and anyone, that promotes slavery, and/or suffering, in any form.
Assertion of the optimality of the aryan race, is not an act of tribal supremacy, but an act of recognition of nobility as the basic factor of all that is "Good" in the world, and establishing that as the universal criterion of quality.
Read aryanism.net/ desu
Brody Mitchell
>optimality
Charles Rivera
WTF I LOVE ZIONISM NOW
Joseph Bailey
"Optimality" simply means "best," from Latin optimus. See for yourself.
In other words you are saying that "the Aryan race is the best race" - the Master Race. Must you really cloak yourself in these obfuscations?
Nathaniel Johnson
Once again, I'm not asserting a tribal supremacy. You clearly did not read the site I linked to. I'm asserting the optimality of characteristics, not of an ethnic group. It is the difference between saying "Jews are the master race" and "Noble individuals are the master race," one of which should be self-evident if you believe that ending suffering and slavery is what should be defined as "good." Do you understand the difference between racial idealism and racial identity is? If not, please read the link below.
As a Jew, I wonder what would have happened if the Nazis embraced the Jews and worked with them instead of slaughtering them
Instead, now the Germans embrace 3rd world muslims and fight to keep them safe even as the refugees attack their citizens
Wyatt Russell
I have just now read your page, and it would appear that the only real distinction between you and the Nazi philosophy as commonly expounded is that you lay more of an emphasis upon breeding a better Master Race into existence by means of eugenics. Hence you yet believe in the nonsense of biological racialism and determinism. A man does not have freedom of will to choose his own destiny in your eyes, there is no such thing as a soul, but rather everybody is "made" by his genes.
The evidence shows this to be untrue. Polish, Italian, and Greek immigrants to the U. S. in the '20s had IQs at the level of the 80s, and sometimes as low as the 70s. This is on a level with those of sub-saharan Africans today.
Conversely, the mixed-race children of German women born after World War Two had IQs identical with those of the native population.
Incorrect, once again you show that you haven't read the site. Genetics plays a role in behavior to an unknown degree, that much should be obvious, but I certainly believe man can overcome his genes through effort. To rely on effort alone when on average the population will resort to the mean is foolish.
0) Nobility: The refusal to accept slavery/suffering for oneself or others. 1) Heritage: Nobility has a biologically heritable influence. 2) Effort: Nobility also has a spiritually autonomous influence. 3) Arya: Any individual has the theoretical ability and the moral duty to pursue nobility by compensating for the shortcomings of heritage using effort. 4) Statistics: In a large population, for every overachiever there is an underachiever. Therefore relying on effort alone to ennoble civilization is, on average or in the long-term, completely useless. 5) Aryanism: The most reliable way to ennoble civilization is to ennoble heritage. 6) Natural Selection: Heritage cannot be ennobled so long as Nature is permitted to eliminate the noblest in favour of the fittest (the fittest are NEVER the noblest, as avoiding death by accepting slavery is the essence of fitness), and quality in favour of quantity. 7) National Socialism: An environment must be established by the state such that survival of the fittest and greatest number is replaced by survival of the noblest and fewest number. State-controlled reproduction must be the central feature of such an environment.
Christopher Morgan
Look to your very own post. "An environment must be established by the state such that survival of the fittest and greatest number is replaced by survival of the noblest and fewest number. State-controlled reproduction must be the central feature of such an environment." If that is not in accordance with exactly the manner in which I characterized your views, then you have miswritten them.
Again, the stuff about "resorting to the mean" is simply untrue. I might ask you, did you read the link I gave you in my own post? Did you consider the arguments I presented to you?
Tyler Sullivan
A man has transcendental freedom, I believe that, but I also think that genes will place a limit on one's abilities. A blind man will never be able to accomplish the same things as a sighted man. One with genes that contribute to intelligence will be able to accomplish things that one without such genes would find more difficult.
The average person will put forth an average level of effort in struggling against slavery/suffering. Could you explain how then we couldn't take the mean as representative?
I read your link, but I don't see how it's relevant exactly. Are you trying to imply that genetics does not play any role in traits whatsoever? I think many scientists would disagree with you on that point.
Matthew Diaz
Where to begin with this level of FAIL. Hitler was a zionist originally he wanted to ship all Jews to Israel until the Grand Mufti of Palestine came along and said no.
Nazis were obsessed with occult Thule society bullshit about a nordic master race which was as tribalist as you can get. They wanted Slavs out. They saw English people as part of their tribe though English people said no we are not fucking huns.
Brayden Hughes
THIS
Also, degenerate tatted skinhead retards doing roman solutes outside of curry houses do the rest.
Both are fucking cancer and without them SJWs would have nothing at all to stand on. All you Hitler waz right morons are what are enabling the wholesale destruction of every western European country because enough people are still scared AF to risk allowing that ever again.
Cooper Adams
Blindness is the destruction of a man's organ -- just as death is the destruction of whole body, after which the mind has no functioning at all. The body is a conduit for the soul; but the mind, the soul itself, is not material but immaterial, and it cannot be reduced to mere machinery and matter.
Evidently whatever is "hereditary" in genes as to intelligence is far more complicated than the simple genetic explanation would have one believe. Have you heard, for example, of epigenetics? If your grandfather was a smoker, he makes you far more likely to become a smoker yourself, passing that attribute on to you. But if you resist the impulse yourself, then you remove it from the hereditary line as to your children. The Swiss were once among the shortest people in Europe, they are now among the tallest. The fact that the Poles, Swiss, and Italians formerly had IQs on the level of blacks, but that after some generations they brought them up to the level of other whites, proves that, ultimately speaking, both men and nations make their own destiny. (This is why I reject the conclusions of the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study as proving that some races are inherently inferior to others: because, whatever is depressing the black IQ would not be removed after a single generation.)
Dominic Nelson
Wrote my post very fast without re-reading it; I apologize for a couple of mistakes.
>just as death is the destruction of whole body
read: the whole body
>Poles, Swiss, and Italians
read: Poles, Greeks, and Italians
Blake Price
>Hitler was a zionist I thought he wanted to relocate them to madagascar so they could build their own nation and learn how to work for themselves rather than parasiting off others. The Haavara agreement merely allowed Jews to trade their confiscated assets for German goods while fleeing Germany, I don't think that indicates an endorsement of Zionism, not to mention Hitler wasn't involved in the negotiation.
I agree that nordicism was a belief of some members of the party, but the views on the Aryan race were not uniform.
See
for why they were not asserting tribal supremacy.
I don't deny that genetics is complicated, merely that we should promote nobility at every level we can, whether through the environment epigenetically or genetically. Children of criminals are more likely to be criminals, children of noble individuals are more likely to be noble. Yes, one can overcome this, but the exception does not prove the rule. As we learn more about the interaction between environment, genetics, and behavior ultimately we can create a more noble man.
Gabriel Watson
Men are constantly rising and falling in society; there has never been one permanent, "noble" class to preserve: the lines of the men in positions of authority and greatness and achievement are ever changing, just nations themselves wax and wane in supremacy or obscurity, according as their inhabits choose virtue or vice. Just look at what was the state of the House of Lords in this country in the Victorian age, for example: Burke pointed out in his "Vicissitudes of Families" that, out that of the twenty-five barons selected to enforce the observance of Magna Charta, there was not then in the House of Peers a single male descendant.
Noah Lee
The characteristics that define one as "noble" and "good" are unchanging throughout time. I don't refer to preserving any class of society, I refer to preserving characteristics.
But the point is, that to try to preserve those characteristics by means of biology is a Quixotic and impossible quest. The group of people at the top is forever changing in a society, just as the nations of the world are constantly rising or falling in pre-eminence. If we choose to be virtuous, we succeed; if we choose to be vicious, we fall. Our own actions make us what we are.
Juan Wright
>Quixotic >impossible It is an ideal worth striving for, the alternative of not striving for it would lead to a worse world, the world we see today. I don't deny that it is against natural selection and anti-nature. I'm an idealist, not a naturalist.
>our own actions make us what we are I don't deny that, but if we can have an impact on the population by allowing those with noble characteristics to reproduce, thereby generally increasing the level of those characteristics in society, then we will have affected the actions of that society, no? A society may choose to be virtuous or not, agreed, so we should promote virtue at all levels that we can. Our actions make us what we are, but our genes, environment, and (perhaps) some form of innate soul determine our beliefs and actions.
