UBI

If you're against Universal Basic Income and you're not rich you're retarded.

Wage-slaves, justify your existence.

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I cannot live without my Walmart job.

This. UBI and based alt right haircuts for all.

wtf am I supposed to do all day 7 days a week while getting gibs, please advice.

I'm sorry that you live in a third world country that does not respect it's citizens.

>From Wage-slave to State-slave
Such Progress.

Do you not understand that when everyone has more money, money is worth less? Can you really not get that simple economic truth through your head?

If every person, bar none, had thousands of dollars to buy all the stupid and wasteful shit they wanted, prices would skyrocket, leaving the poor in the same situation they started in.

I do not labour for my existence, therefore I cannot be a slave.

Your understanding of inflation is hilarious.

>If daddy state, doesn't give me my allowance I die.

I just barely get by. That's alright. I don't plan to live much into my 40s as life never really started.

Just a couple more years to go!

you're an idiot

Well, I don't die. I just become a criminal/sustain my own existence through other means that does not involving labouring for someone elses benefit.

You slave your existence away to earn a pittance.

>Becoming a criminal at the first chance.
HELLO NIGGER.

I am without a doubt whiter than you, my third world friend.

I don't need free shit to get ahead in life and I sure as hell don't want to leave a slightly better-off-than-me family without money to buy their kids shit.

Bro... where would they get the money to pay us with...

You're still a nigger

t. wave-slave

>britbong doesn't understand that UBI would break reserve requirements that limit inflation

Is summer over yet?

>Claims to be white
>Would become criminal at the first difficulty

Questions
How will they distribute it?
Will single parent mothers or immigrants receive more depending on family size?
How much are they going to give?
What do they expect me to do with the hours that I work instead?
Will I be taxed on it?

>lolbertarian in 2017

Have you worked your way out your minimum wage job yet, wagey?

When can i quit my job and get free money? Put my house in trust rented to me in perpetuum. Free section 8 and food stamps and UBI... Sweet ass deal.

Yeah my landlord knows that in addition to the money I make from my job I'm now given an extra $25k/year. What do you think will happen to my rent at the annual cost of living/inflation adjustment?

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We really need to cull the leeches of society.

>t. Mohammad Bin Smith

Fucking this, Am I just gonna have to start going to the gym for 6-8 hours a day like Arnold did?
honestly that'd be fucking sick, but I just don't see it working out, all those people with that much free time can't be a good thing most people don't use their time well not saying I would either.

Youre off team Civilization, go live in the fucking jungle you degenerate monkey

I wonder what kind of effects a basic income would have on society. Would it lower the crime rate? Would it improve health by lowering stress? There are probably a lot of good reasons for it besides freeing people from slavery. People seem to do a lot of things they wouldn't if they weren't under the constant threat of starvation and homelessness.

Just stop gibs in case they are not looking for work. When work is found, they have to take it, or no gibs any longer.

>If you're against stealing and you're not rich you're retarded.

Alrighty then.

This, death to the capitalists.

Well the issue with universal income is the fact that it will most surely come from taxes which will only damage people who work and pay said taxes. When they are hurt with more and more taxes, people will then rely solely on welfare and the universal income (if UI doesn't count as welfare). When that happens more people will opt out of the workforce and the pool of people you can pull taxes from will decrease and UI and welfare will eventually no longer be sustainable.

Basically get a fucking job you lazy cunt.

How do you justify your existence, beneath the boot of those richer than you? Is it some sort of delusion where you believe that maybe one day you'll be like them?

We already have basic income, welfare. UBI is just expanding welfare to include more people. They would set a minimum income number, and those who do not earn that amount would be given the difference.

I am against all forms of welfare
that is the job of charities, not the state

>live socialist dream of UBI with no strings attatched
>enjoy a life of hedonism
>people using their newfound time fucking, drinking, smoking weed and playing video-games instead of working
>more and more people join the ranks of those falling to the pursuit of escapism
>"they don't work, why should I?"

>then one day, the lights go out.

I have no problem with this as long as its ground rents being captured to fund it. Taxing income and other legitimate forms of property would not be right

It does sound like disaster, I think we'll see certain increase in more degeneracy. I think we'll start seeing mental cases rise as well.
I'd just save it all, buy a yacht and sail the fuck outta here

>wah why don't you want to slave your existence away to make someone else who has a far higher standard of life than me money

Get a set of balls.

>Mass automation is coming
>thousands, maybe millions will be out of a job.
>everybody here pretends it's about greedy and laziness.

kim taeyeon~

Are you a rich capitalist?

If not, how can you justify treating yourself this poorly?

If you capture ground rents and other sources of unearned income you arent stealing anything. Land was gods gift to man and all of his children should share in its bounty.

Abolish all taxes except for that on land value

That'd be theft

depends on how its funded

what about when all the minimum wage jobs disappear as they reckon is going to happen? I'm not living of basic income that gives me no ability to do or go anywhere, just to survive that is fucking disgusting. All of it would be absorbed by the costs of living.

>Implying the state isn't the biggest enemy of Capitalism.
I live in a country that which public transportation si actually a mess of multiple private bussiness when our goverment privated transportation and sold the routes for the biggest price. 100% of the owners are peruvians that just cashed out from this(most of them started when they got fired from national comunication company that also got privatized).
Since then the goverment has been losing more and more power and the quantity of entrepreneurs have aumented

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And?

So instead of wage slave (actually debt slave). We are a state slave. How is that better?

No, you retarded chimp. I was referring to the literal wastes of space that live off government gibs.

This was obviously too difficult a concept for your leech mind to grasp. Not surprising since you exist solely due to government subsidy.

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You could still have a job if you wanted more than the basic income provided or you could focus on improving yourself or society. Study, do research, operate a farm, etc, or just masturbate all day, dealer's choice.

If you yourself are not a rich capitalist, you're pretty stupid.

It's sad that you are literally not capable of understanding the irony of this post.

'Cause we don't believe in "Robin' Hoodie", you fucking Bong.

You collect ground rents via taxation

the government acts as a trust and distributes the rent to all via a citizens dividend

you abolish all forms of taxation but that on the real value of land

land prices fall and economy booms. Urban sprawl and all its problems are stopped

everyone now gets their 200 from passing go

If that were true you would either have a machine that provides food and water and never breaks down. Also you would not raise children or clean anything. Labor is labor. Whether you sell it or not is up to you.

You still have the option to work if you want more income. UBI would cause a ton of people to quit their jobs, so expect a lot of jobs to become available.
You can't expect extra money for travel or fine dining in the UBI timeline. Materialistic people will fight for the remaining jobs.

It's sad that you literally slave your life away to make someone richer than you even more richer.

Don't worry, your master thanks you for your work.

>If you care about the sustainability of your nation's revenue and tax system, and don't want to bring the entire system to it's knees because of nothing except greed and selfishness, you're retarded

It's no wonder your country is becoming an Islamist infested hell hole - Brits apparently don't give a flying fuck about their maintaining their country. Sad!

Don't you need to go watch Abdul and jafar tag team your sister? Or is watching while you a cry a hate crime now?

No you're right, you believe in millions living in poverty because the top 1% tells you this system works and youre just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire

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No one who is not a literal retard works a minimum wage job.

You can make more than minimum wage working at fucking mcdonalds you worthless monkey.

You are literally more pathetic than a teenager slinging fast food. Why are you still alive?

Just more Marxist stupidity

>Socialist bong ignoring my post.

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if you dont do anything about the land monopoly all that UBI will be absorbed by rents

>I'm poor so stealing is okay.

How will you pay for it though? We don't live in a post-scarcity or automation heavy world yet.

What about when those jobs are gone like they say they going to?
Am I just going to be given UBI jat the bare minimum just to live so it's all eaten up by the cost of living? Fuck that I'd rather kill myself.
I save money I don't spend it, If I'm not able to save money then how the fuck do eventually leave this miserable fucking Island?

It would be a net gain for society if we simply eliminated you.

You're a perpetual leech on society and worse, you're actually proud of it.

I work in haulage/transport dickhead, bosses abuse minimum wage.
go suck on mommas teet

You pay for it with a land value tax

You seem to think the people have no power. All they need to do is 6 months of bare consuming (food and water) pay debt and suddenly they are more wealthy than people whose are paid twice as much. Also are you calling povert poverty or is it envy. What is the difference.

You're literally a brainwashed deluded slave. I hope your annual income is in the millions, otherwise you're just as sad cuck that works to make others richer.

Meanwhile my entire life is free-time. I don't have a master telling me what to do and when, just so I can make him more money.

Pathetic.

>DUDE FREE SHIT LMAO

You are beyond pathetic.

I'm not sure you even qualify as a human being.

Your entire existence is dependent on the good will of society. Let's hope it doesn't last.

It should be legal to hunt people like you

Adapt you idiot. The economy changes all the time, we don't have horse and buggy drivers anymore. If you want more income, get involved in another area. Go to school and become a mechanic to fix all the robots that will steal everyone's job.

>wage-slave jealously and anger

Don't blame me for your life being garbage.

Ok..... where's the money coming from?

Does Marx not understand that buildings cost money to upkeep? How big of a retard was that guy really?

I have a bachelor's in mechy and electrical I'm more than capable of sustaining myself and my family when we've flushed out the kinks in full automazation. You're useless and thus nature dictates you and those like you need to die off. I'm not giving anything to you or anyone when there's to many people in the world already.

Amazon Inc. Lmao

>Socialist nigger still ignoring me

>it's

Learn grammar.

>justify
I'm not a lazy fat fuck

This is why we need to apply eugenics, please give us fascism and eugenics, I beg.

I dont think you understand what land value is

has 0 to do with whats built on it

location location location

Then fucking act like it and don't advocate for nigger-tier behavior

same place it already does:
the federal reserve's account that is all zeroes to begin with

as long as it's for the employed only, the unemployed should get fuck all, i don't pay my taxes for it to get given to ungrateful pricks

>the plebs should be genetically modified to be obedient wage-slaves

You ARE one of the plebs you stupid fuck.

And? Accepting that means theft is okay and I can take your income, retard

Why should society pay for your stupid ass to sit around all day and do nothing? Who is supposed to pay for this socialist wet dream of universal basic income?

My life is fine. You are literally a ward of the state and proud of being completely useless. Society could decide tomorrow to stop feeding you and then you'd be dead.

The really sad thing is that it would be a net gain for society in every possible respect. Resources would no longer be wasted on you and no one would have to observe your smug feelings of superiority of your utter lack of worth.