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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/
gommies.gom/ohfugme/
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Jewish_Labour_Bund_in_Lithuania,_Poland_and_Russia
gommies.gom/hiwherearethefood/
islamiggommunism.gom/
youtube.com/watch?v=u3WH79my90s
globalresearch.ca/frances-colonial-tax-still-enforced-for-africa-bleeding-africa-and-feeding-france/5547512
trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1182&context=utk_chanhonoproj
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
archive.is/XxRXf
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

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Kys, commie. Isn't the estimated 100 million enough dead people for you to realize that communism is a retarded system that only works in theory?

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also, communism has never been reached

Sage goes in the options field above where you type when you post.

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That's an unfair comparison. Common sense and history tell me that if the whole world were communist instead of capitalist, those numbers would WAY higher.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

Yes it has, faggot.

Fucking jpg, where's the gif version?

Great post, only reason I open these threads.

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Didn't Stalin kill several million of his own citizens?

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communism will win

53 million estimated. Wasn't able to beat Mao's high score, though

communist with an iphone...lol.

why the fuck do you keep making these threads?

people aren't flocking to the alt-right or whatever the fuck you wanna call it because of ideology.People see others like Milo,AleX jONes,Sam Hyde, Gavin McInnes,etc

People aren't going to waste their time reading boring Marxist literature.I expected a leftie out of all(who has maaaaaaaaaaaybe heard of Gramsci) to understand that this is a Culture War.

You have shitty memes, have no footstep in the current culture, are shit at critiquing it and many other things.The only cool guy on your team is SNIFFMAN.Slavoj is based because he secretly gives 0 shits about being politically correct and not hurting LGBTQQQ++ retards.He's a fucking traditionalist just look at his tastes.


I want to know who you are IRL.What type of individual wastes their time like this.This is not even shitposting, my man.

Come up with an interesting leftist critique of current evens and people will listen.Keep being the sort of cuck that secretly sucks bolshevik cock without having the experience of living in a communist country and you're on your way to the dustbin of history.

kys senpai

She could be 10/10 (which isn't) but that flag behind her makes her 1/10.

>be communist
>be so retarded that you think that the best first step to a stateless/classless society is an all-encompassing government.

Eww, the nose ring indicates that she is an SJW whore that probably has gonorrhea.

imagine writing all this lol

>she

>Imagine being a Judeo Communist
Why can't you just accept the fact that Communism is Jewish?

>doesn't this happen in the first phase of every country to achieve full communism
>yes

>doesn't this faggots own messiah tell him him he shouldn't be able to own the telecommunications he's typing on
>yes

>"PEACE!LAND!BREAD!" - Lenin, between 1905-1917 revolutinos
>"PEOPLE BEFORE PROFITS!" -modern day communist hook line used to rake in naive liberal arts students
>Both before and after the USSR exported food to pay for it's military machine it literally wanted to conquer and subjugate the world with
>When China under Mao did the same thing, but for civil purposes
>communists have the most proven track record of famining millions of people for temporary economic gain

>inb4 when over two billion people try something and fail, you can't say it hasn't been tried

communism failed every time

dont bother discussing with them, they're braindead
it was never real communism in their mind

>In order that the true meaning of things may not strike the goyim before the proper time, we shall mask it under an alleged ardent desire to serve the working classes… Protocols of Zion VI

>communism hasn't lasted in any country it's taken root in for more than a century
>they all either turn to capitalism, turn into dictatorial dynasties, or turn break up and fracture into small capitalist client states

>capitalism evolved naturally from the older economic mode

>communism claims to be the next step. Everyday it becomes more outdated
>communists therefore want violent revolution because their prophet fucked up

>>communism claims to be the next step. Everyday it becomes more outdated
No, more relevant

the confederacy failed every time

>makes claim
>can't explain why he's claiming it

>No, more Jewish
Fixed that for you.

Communism is Jewish, after all. Even you can't deny that.

>makes claim
>can't explain why he's claiming it

Sage it, once again.

>53 millions

yeah, stalin killed almost half the population of the USSR himself

stupidest comparison ever. you commies sure are dumb

>Acts like a Judeo Communist
>Can't explain why Jews aren't responsible for Communism

>Posts a picture of a Jew
>Claims Communism isn't Jewish.

added to the collection

Wow, those finely minted integers, relevant to your own cause.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Jewish_Labour_Bund_in_Lithuania,_Poland_and_Russia

>gommies.gom/benis/
love these. best thing about these communist threads

GAY.

Fucking amazing, I actually didn't have that link. Will add it to my collection.

Thanks, comrade. ;)

I already explained all my claims to you. Are you actually retarded?

I could give you sources, for instance, the sources you're supposed to have already read, but I certain this religion has taken you. You're too in love with your messiah. Your ten commandments are your Ethics for the Builders of Communism. You're son of the haunting spectre, Marx has taken root and become your opiate. His successor prophets only enhance the effect.

claim (noun)- an assertion of something as a fact

No, his wasn't a claim in the same way that your's was a claim.

its also a stage where the efficiency of the work that people put in falls drastically

Why is communism outdated then? It has been around for a long time as political theory and isn't going away anytime soon. In fact socialism and communism are seeing rising support right now.

Just saying, I bet she also has gonorrhea.

In political/economic theory, notably socialist, Marxist, and most anarchist philosophies, the distinction between private and personal property is extremely important. Which items of property constitute which is open to debate. In some philosophies, such as capitalism, private and personal property are considered to be exactly equivalent.

Personal property includes "items intended for personal use" (e.g., clothes, homes, and vehicles, and sometimes money). It must be gained in a socially fair manner, and the owner has a distributive right to exclude others.
Private property is a social relationship between the owner and persons deprived (not a relationship between person and thing), e.g., artifacts, factories, mines, dams, infrastructure, natural vegetation, mountains, deserts, seas, etc. Marxism holds that a process of class conflict and revolutionary struggle could result in victory for the proletariat and the establishment of a communist society in which private property and ownership is abolished over time and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community. (Private property and ownership, in this context, means ownership of the means of production, not personal possessions).
To many socialists, the term private property refers to capital or the means of production, while personal property refers to consumer and non-capital goods and services.

>tfw we can use the word comrade without being corny pretentious shits

>Why is communism outdated then?
Because it's Jewish.

> It has been around for a long time as political theory and isn't going away anytime soon.
Communism sticks the Jews like shit. As long as the Jews exist, so will Communism.

>In fact socialism and communism are seeing rising support right now.
Because the Jewish media is oppressing any opposition to it.

What does size the means of production mean?

>>tfw we can use the word comrade without being corny pretentious shits
That's because our race, heritage, history and culture unites us.

Unlike judeo communists who call each other "comrade" even though they share nothing but a destructive, jewish ideology.

Honestly the other states in Eastern Europe didn't kill millions. The worst killed tens of thousands over 40-50 years.

It's because of highschool and college propaganda, Marxist professors do a shitty job of teaching about communism.

>do a shitty job of teaching about communism
Seems to me America has a pretty bad understanding of socialism in general

>Seems to me America has a pretty bad understanding of socialism in general
Yeah, most people don't even understand that it's Jewish.

niggers have been surviving in africa for centuries by living off of the land, before they had any white people helping them out.

explain to me why they can't do it now, by themselves, without the help of white people.

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>before they had any white people helping them out.
Thats a funny way to describe colonialism

It ALWAYS goes away soon. All countries end up leaving communism in one of three ways, which I've outlined above already.

>In fact socialism and communism are seeing rising support right now

In proportion to certain other ideologies, I'd disagree that it's significantly increasing. It's just becoming more visible with the LGBTQP+ intersectionalists and antifa.

Communism is outdated because:
1)Utility value doesn't and can't exist. Read kapital. The example given is triangles fitting inside triangles to draw a relation between materials. They didn't consider subjectivity based on personal value, or that not all materials have the same intrinsic worth.

2)countries with flat tax rates have actually done better at attracting investment over heavily progressive or even slightly progressively taxed countries. Mostly in eastern Europe now(ironically).

3)ALL transportation and comms are supposed to be controlled by the government. Not just means of production. Including the thing you're typing on.

Numbers 2 and 3 are in the Manifesto, back of ch2 is the list of ten things. Some of them are give-me's, like education. I'm sure you'll handwave this all somehow.

>Which items of property constitute which is open to debate

No it isn't. It all belongs to the individual that crafted or purchased them. What's so hard about the social contract we have for you?

Also, you messed this one up. Homes, including land rents, are NOT personal property. They become annexed by the communist government. Owning homes,houses, etc is not supposed to be allowed. The elite in communist societies still had their dachas and estates however-highlighting the truth that people will never allow themselves equality when they have the upper hand.

How do you differentiate private and personal? It's up to feels. That's right, feelings is the basis for social arrangement. Like you "feel" that homes and land should be purchasable, but your own prophets disagree with you.

THE SOCIALIST ARE EVERYTHING SHIT FUCKING KILLERS AND ANTI-CAPITALIST

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>Communism
That's a funny way to describe Judaism.

Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/hiwherearethefood/
gommies.gom/benis/
islamiggommunism.gom/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage 4
Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :-DDdd

sage fagot

i love how people bring up the past and trying to make it relevant today
when all the people during that time period have died

I have no idea what this picture is trying to say

both /sg/ and /ptg/ can't stand leftists

That your retarded and gay

Colonial debt still happens

wut

>be Yagoda
>purge millions of christians and property owners
>nothing
>be Yezhov
>architect mass removal of communist insiders, about a million, and build on Yagoda's work, killing millions more

>both turned Gulags into death camps

>in Hitlers talk with Mannerheim, he said that the German commanders brought back reports of what the USSR was like. "they lived like animals"

>be Ukrainian
>government steals land
>famine gets worse
>Soviet government exports food to pay for military expansion and technology
>millions die

>no religious, speech, or expression rights
>can't own more than clothes unless belonging to elite tier of communist party


>"they dindu nuffin"-user

>I have no idea what this picture is trying to say
I bet you sat that a lot.

Communism is still Jewish

>I bet you sat that a lot.
I don't watch tv, I have no idea what its from

Fuck off.

Communism is even worse than jewish controlled capitalism. The 1℅ still exists, but there is no middle class, everyone is equally poor except the 1℅. Authoritarian communism is beyond retarded. Example - USSR e.g. bolshevism.
Anarchistic communism might work in a small village which has access to all natural ressources, but often fails because people are selfish (example - african villages). More talented individuals get dragged down by the stupid ones.

So fuck off. Commies literally destroy cultures and traditions, slaugther almost whole countries sometimes.

>that pic
Why are leftists so utterly incapable of producing dank memes?

pic related, you

>I don't watch tv, I have no idea what its from
lmao....you're stupid you don't even know when you're being insulted.

You still can't disprove the fact that Communism is Jewish. No amount of ignoring my posts will make Communism less Jewish

>53 million estimated
by whom?

youtube.com/watch?v=u3WH79my90s

>Colonial debt still happens
what countries for example?
sources?

I don't give a shit who is or isn't jewish, I know that might shock you user

You are nothing but a useful idiot. "Abolishing" private property translates, in the real world, to all private private property being owned by the state, which is in turn controlled by Jewish finance capitalists.

All non-Jewish Communists and socialists are nothing more than useful idiots who seek the fulfillment of an ancient Talmudic prophecy without even realizing it.

There is a reason why almost all Jews are either Communists or Libertarian ideologues; both systems, if taken to their logical conclusion, will result in the fulfillment of this Talmudic prophecy - All property will be effectively controlled by Jews.

globalresearch.ca/frances-colonial-tax-still-enforced-for-africa-bleeding-africa-and-feeding-france/5547512

>The article called attention to an ongoing practice by which former African countries are forced to pay a colonial tax to France – even today. In fact, France continues to thrive on the practice, which extracts approximately 500 billion dollars from African countries each year.

>durr communism is bad because it's jewish
>let's have jews own all the capital instead so when automation takes over they own everything while im left to starve with no jobs!

You sound like a fucking retard.

im stealing this, dont mind me being black for a period of time

>I don't give a shit who is or isn't jewish, I know that might shock you user
Well that's why you're anti-White.

You think there's nothing wrong with the Jews and Communism being Jewish.

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Sage

>>durr communism is bad because it's jewish
Correct.

>>let's have jews own all the capital instead so when automation takes over they own everything while im left to starve with no jobs!
Capitalism is just as Jewish as Communism.


>im stealing this, dont mind me being black for a period of time
Go right ahead.

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I'm sure it also include WW2 soldiers, which is somewhat unfair, but TBF Stalin used them as machines rather than treating them as people (therefore many died unnecessarily).

alright, these 14 coutries have it shit,
what about the rest?

> some bimbo is stupid enough to have three kids with a criminal
> she feeds them some poisonous shit
> she and the kids die
> somehow this is everyone else's fault for not giving them free shit and it's obviously not caused by idiots simply dying for lack of responsibility
> "muh easily preventable!"

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USSR lost up to 30kk in total during WW2. What about 20kk then?

Thank you.

Heres a paper, a little long though

trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1182&context=utk_chanhonoproj

The effects of colonialism are well documented and have effects to this day

I refuse to believe that any real person can be delusional to such an extreme degree.

>I refuse to believe that any real person can be delusional to such an extreme degree.
Anti-Semitism
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
archive.is/XxRXf
>In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.