Developments Aug 29 >US troops exchanged fire with Turkish backed rebels near Manbij >IS evacuated from Arsal have arrived in DeZ gov >14k Drone operations done by RuAF since intervention >300+ tribal fighters/SAA soldiers missing after IS offensive in SE Raqqa >SAA avances 30 km from Sukhnah, 75km remain to DeZ >Terrorists in Sy increase use of suicide drones >Syrian and Lebanese armies are in full control of Arsal pocket after IS agree to be bussed to DeZ gov >2 commanders from SDF located in the area of Manbij defect to SAA >Rebels announce large offensive in SW Daraa, only to fail 4 hours later >New Hamas leader says relations with Iran have been restored >IS launches offensive on US base, strategic city in south Hasakah >Netanyahu accuses Iran of building sites in Syria to fire missiles at Israel >Kurdish, Turkish forces trade hostilities in northern Aleppo >Iraqi Army/PMU liberates Tal Afar city + 2 villages E of city >Saudi Arabia assumes responsibility for civis killed in Yemen airstrikes due to “technical mistake”
>attacking Bishri head-on and succeeding wew, ISIS must have abandoned it.
Landon Taylor
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Justin Jackson
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Eli Martinez
why the fugg do u always get the double digits, just like in last thread, argh
Liam Diaz
DEZ SOON!
Jonathan Ortiz
Moar pls!
Camden Martin
do you likes mummy
Ian Reed
too many gains today i wonder how issam is feeling now
Jackson Perez
CONSTANTINOPLA
S O O N O O N
Parker Roberts
The point is Bibi will use this to reeee to the UN about muh WMD (iraq 2.0) which will legitimize a boots on ground from USA. One would think that Russia wouldn't give a good pretext to their rival on the international political scene. Also, (i'm trying to be neutral here) i don't really trust Iran to not start the escalation by using it offensively and not defensively and i don't think Russia is naive enough to think that Iran would play it as passive as possible. I'm not talking about who's right and who's wrong, I'm asking why Russia seems to have changed it's policy in Syria by protecting the iranian missiles (ie taking a more clear side with iran while they were more moderate about it before) if it was a syrian factory i wouldn't have asked. But this time they are siding more openly with Iran ( a third party in their syrian intervention) when they used to adopt a more reserved stance toward them (supporting them but not to this point of commitment). To sum it up: how come Russia seem to have moved to a more committed and less "on the fence" stance?
Connor Hughes
Very much amigo!
John Morgan
No meme flags [only "NAZI"/Fascist are allowed]
Andrew Perez
Please tell me hohol maps fucked up badly? This is what I opened it to this morning
Jayden Morgan
No we support Assad the Baker.
Assad the butcher, his shop is further down to the back of the souk.
Hunter Robinson
>which will legitimize How exactly? Only legal way is UNSC or Syria government and you can bet neither will allow US troops in Syria.
>protecting the iranian missiles You aware that this is bullshit? Same way as "Iran nukes any day nao" for past 20+ years coming from Israel.
Ian Hernandez
No. Assad just lost. ISIS is taking over
Carter Bailey
Yes, especially since Russia will just veto any resolution against Syria.
Wyatt Ward
>You aware that this is bullshit? Same way as "Iran nukes any day nao" for past 20+ years coming from Israel. Gotcha covered there.
> Russia seems to have changed it's policy in Syria
it hasn't. it's the same. it has openly discussed with all affected parties what that means, at astana and other locations, the fact is that iran is major party to the astana agreements. iran is a major guarantor of the process.
russia policy, i would imagine are a stable southern periphery and it's allies protected. if israel is a threat to that strategic goal, and it is, then action needs to be taken to counter the threat. that is done politically and militarily.
I don't see how, after having played a major part in cleaning up isis, iran can be asked to fuck off. after the war it will be one of the players rebuilding syria, and it needs to be able to protect it's interests. nothing about this is anti israeli. it's just the whiney israeli's playing it for all it's worth.
> if it was a syrian factory i wouldn't have asked. do u have evidence it was a iranian factory? cause only israeli media is saying it's iranian. but no evidence. not even any evidence of what it's making.
in short iran is a major player in russia's southern periphery. it is a major guarantor of syrian territorial integrity. iran is far more useful to russia than israel. in fact it is difficult to see israel as anything less than a threat to the stability that russia would like to see in the region.
Josiah Sullivan
>How exactly? Only legal way is UNSC or Syria government and you can bet neither will allow US troops in Syria. I was implying from the MSM perspective then they would use a unilateral intervention to (((shut it down))): in other words 2003 Iraq 2.0 >You aware that this is bullshit? Same way as "Iran nukes any day nao" for past 20+ years coming from Israel. You must watch the interview of BIbI in 2001 about Saddam being 'literally developing WMD as we speak" You see how it ended for him two years later. Doesn't need to be legitimate in front of the international law for USA: as you can see they already have military bases without the syrian gov approval and i don't see anyone batting an eye at the UN.
Liam Perry
I do not believe your polish trickery.
I mean I know they're having violent death throes but wew lads, it's too early in the morning for this confusion
Jaxson King
What happened
Ayden Jones
>The point is Bibi will use this to reeee to the UN about muh WMD (iraq 2.0) which will legitimize a boots on ground from USA. How much is there to this whole "russia protecting iranian missiles" anyway, a few articles Nothing substantial happened so far, they're just telling bibi to fuck off
Adrian Myers
After ISIS pocket is cleared, and Dez encirclement lifted, SAA will focus on securing border with Iraq, right? Then what? FSA pockets in Central Syria, Southern front or killing off ISIS at last?
Samuel Howard
yes
Evan Lee
Important, head of Manbij military council died in Raqqa today, in combat. It may influence whole SDF-YPG relations
Gabriel Richardson
IT'S THE END MOTHERFUCKERS. YOU'RE DONE ALLAH AKBAR ALLAH SURIA BASHAR W BAS
Logan Perry
anyone else having issues with the liveuamap website? i'm trying to check the territory changes over time, but it doesn't work for 99% of the attempts.
for instance, if i go into the "time" tab and click on august 1st, it will almost always continue to show the current august 29th territory. the clickable event points do show up correctly for the date that i'm selecting, but not the colored territory on the map. it keeps showing up the current territory for august 29th.
after clicking a million times, i have managed to get it to work a few times and have been able to check august 1st to august 7th, but now it doesn't work anymore. i keep clicking on august 8th, and it either shows the current territory for today, or it shows some weird ass shit from years ago.. for instance, either shit from like 3 years ago when only the green rebel areas were drawn on the map, or shit from like a year ago back when the goat-fuckers still held part of the turkish border..
what the fuck is going on? this used to work perfectly.. i've been using this website to check the progress for like two or three months, and it always worked properly, but now it doesn't. all i can do is check current territory, which is bullshit. that's what made this website different from the others.. it allowed you to check progress while all of the others only show up current status.
is anyone else having this issue?
Adam James
>After ISIS pocket is cleared, and Dez encirclement lifted Securing oilfields
Just to add, he was the leader/commander/tribal whatever, responsible for: talks with US officials (recently negotiated with McSomething), talks between SDF and YPG and military cooperation between YPG and local Arabs. This single death may change a lot.
Cameron Anderson
the difference is the unity of the players. Russia would veto unilateral action at the un leaving the usa and nato to act outside of the un. russia might frustrate, hamper or even openly act against them. Iran would durkha durkha. Sausi arabias eastern oilfields would go up in flames as iranian cruise missiles ploughed into them.
turkey might engage full autism to counter saudi israeli attempts at dominance in the region. the kurds would play all sides.
it's difficult to see something like that working smoothly or to plan. and it's difficult to see amriika and israel actually contributing their own troops.
israel on it's own might wind up half the country it is if it loses such an engagement, and I cannot see the prizes of oil and minerals being big enough to justify an american presence.
assad is about to win. there may be some desperate gambles. but nothing historic.
the us can have bases, sort of under un action against isis. but when isis is finished they have to leave. even they aknowledge that.
all americans really want is to control a bit of road that leads from iran, so they can watch it and iranian activity. whether they get that or not is yet to be seen.
Adam Reed
Jihadmin got drunk and fucked up the map
Christopher Rodriguez
McGurke?
Adrian Turner
McMaster?
Will be interesting to see who'll be chosen as his successor. Arab/kurdish tensions will increase with ISIS ceasing to be an existential threat anyways
William Gray
Yeah, I think so, that incest looking smug fuck in a hat
Ethan Powell
>How much is there to this whole "russia protecting iranian missiles" anyway, a few articles Nothing substantial happened so far wow it's almost like such events can evolve in regard to their place in the MSM spotlight > they're just telling bibi to fuck off yeah and i wished it was enough for him to not sperg out and break the international law again with his interventions (overt or covert), but we don't get what we want do we? I would have expected Putin to cockblock (or at least tell the Iranian that they are on their own) in order to keep the status quo as they always do, or at least that's the impression that i have from Russian influence in ME >do u have evidence it was a iranian factory? cause only israeli media is saying it's iranian. but no evidence. not even any evidence of what it's making. i'm not going to start playing dumb with you: obviously between Iran and Syrian the one with the technology and the know-how to build rockets is clearly Iran as shown by the recent satellite launch they manage to fly.
Aaron Powell
Allah truly delivered this bullet!
Isaac Turner
I have never gotten shit to work on that site before current date.
Matthew Reyes
Why isn't FSA doing anything at all against the government? SAA is going full out against ISIS and even if agreements by foreign interest representatives they will just sit idly by and wait for their enemy to return to wipe them out? This is the time for them to spring back into action. Internal conflicts or not they should be opening offensives where ever they can before it is too late and all they will be doing is try and hold on to the steadily fleeting land they hold. This otherwise to me is the biggest indicator as to why this Civil War is more than practically over. FSA are jsut waiting for their time like some convict on death row.
Lincoln Hill
>Why isn't FSA doing anything at all against the government? Because thermobaric death raining from above stopped when talks with Russians begun, it's that simple.
Nathan Ward
I don't know man, I just don't see a reason to get ahead of ourselves here. Ofcourse it's not impossible that shit evolves into a major shitstorm but things have to play out first
Joshua Edwards
>I was implying from the MSM Nobody cares about MSM, really. >in other words 2003 Iraq 2.0 There were no Russia in Iraq and Iraq wasn't Russia ally at the time. So, nobody cares about what happened to Iraq. >Doesn't need to be legitimate in front of the international law for USA: as you can see they already have military bases without the syrian gov approval and i don't see anyone batting an eye at the UN. Well it is a bit different things. I wouldn't be surprised if US will stay in kurd parts of Syria after ISIS is done but let's not rush since everything can happen.
>I would have expected Putin to cockblock (or at least tell the Iranian that they are on their own) in order to keep the status quo as they always do, or at least that's the impression that i have from Russian influence in ME Sum it up pretty good >I don't see how, after having played a major part in cleaning up isis, iran can be asked to fuck off. after the war it will be one of the players rebuilding syria, and it needs to be able to protect it's interests. nothing about this is anti israeli. it's just the whiney israeli's playing it for all it's worth.
Jose Reed
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Caleb Martin
same here Looks like (((someone))) sabotaged it
Angel Cox
what are we gonna do ABOUT THE RUSSIAN MENACE??
Isaac Gonzalez
It's a blackhole for RAM, try use a less resource heavy browser
Brandon Scott
Accept Caryca Natalia Vladimirova and Jesus Christ as our saviours?
Jose Sullivan
ONE OFF
Alexander Wilson
Checked.
Let's save it.
Bentley Price
ok thanks for the point of view although I might add that you underestimate too much the potential of USA to go full unilateralism (especially with donald "i'll bomb syria because my daughter is crying" trump) I don't exclude from them to go full retard as an attempt to stay in the game (who knows maybe trump will be impeached in order to get mike "best goy" pence to go full autism because dudesandniggerslmao) It's interesting to see Russia allow the status quo to slip by enabling an Iranian increase of influence in the region, but again it's not like if it was avoidable with all the involvement from Iran during the war.
Evan Sullivan
Cuckdom of Saudi Arabia?
Ryder Rivera
Off by one. Check my s*ngles
Noah Gutierrez
>Nobody cares about MSM, really. You're not worth my time
Daniel Thomas
Check em
Zachary Murphy
Pardon the fake and gay sources but, Amaq claimed today CAS targeted SDF by mistake in Raqqa: >picture And later it turns out they've left their spearheaded positions: >twitter.com/24Raqqa/status/902637086007844864
Funny how Amaq is the best source along Raqqa25 for this battle.
Jack Perez
I run firefox, I'm not sure what else is better and that can run different embedded video codecs consistently.
Jacob Gutierrez
white and based
Adam Collins
>Amaq >fake >gay you a shia innit??
Levi Flores
wew, the kikes are shilling overtime on twitter about the Qalamoun evacuation deal and even Abadi made a statement about it. The same Abadi that was pressured by the US to handicap the PMU from securing the border and tried his hardest to stop the encirclement of Mosul.
Elijah Stewart
maybe he doesn't want us infidel crusaders to see the big progress that has been made against his goat-fucker buddies.
shit, maybe he should just freeze the map to like 2015 when the goat-fucker caliphate had the most territory!
that's weird.. it used to work perfectly for me. i've been checking almost every day since late june.
so it isn't just me. at first i thought it was just a bug in the website and that it would get fixed.. or that maybe they were working on updating the website or some shit.. but the first time i tried today it was like 1PM, so it's been 5 hours now.. either the people running the website are really fucking shitty at their job of maintaining a website, or something weird is going on..
Thomas Jenkins
>expected Putin to cockblock why. he made agreement at astana. iran has paid blood price. i think he has made new partners. the old partners and the status quo seemed to be threatening the status quo. I don't think he feels like he owes iran fewer favours than israel. israel kind of fucked this up if they were hoping to get out of this by looking good. cock blocking iran would be a strategic mistake - behaving like a western ally.
as for playing dumb...well i obviously can't accept 'obviously' as an explanation. rebuilding syria is gonna take shitloads of diverse iranian investment, including arms, toilet paper, plastic things, etc. 'obviously' is an argument that has led to nothing but horror since 2003. fact.
Dominic Anderson
I've got a six year old laptop barely hanging on, and I've good results with Opera. It can sometimes be picky with embedded vids, but very rarely, especially with html5 becoming more widespread
Josiah Reyes
is this what we play now?
Adam Perez
Of course, goy
Checked
Carter Lee
The same Abadi that pressured by US sent Golden as storm troops instead of eager PMU and made the battle for Mosul a complete failure.
Isaiah White
they made ceasefire. they disobey they fry in thermobaric flames that will take them to heaven. yes the flames will take them to...hang on. Padre? Are the flames in heaven? How does this work again?
Justin Sanders
No, THIS (checked) is what we play.
Matthew Hernandez
Fixed
Ayden Wright
How did you know? Me on the left.
Dominic Wright
The PMU says they won't use their power to gain leadership over Iraq. Bad move IMO.
Colton Bailey
Update me on the situation. I haven't cared about this for at least a year. Who's winning?
Asher Davis
nothing better than some goy on goy action
Zachary Jenkins
Nobody listens to commies at UN, they're completely irrelevant. Moot point.
Maybe Israeli attacks at damascus international airport and then CAS missions in quneitra had something to do with russians changing mind, just a wild assumption.
Also calling it an iranian factory is some sort of a jewish trick to pre-emptively justify destroying it because Iran is literally hitler or something. It's in Syria, it's Syrian.
Chase Sanders
ISIS, they already got Swedistan, Iceland is next
Austin Nelson
>tfw living in the timeline where Assad wins the war We are incredibly lucky. Imagine living in the timeline where he ends like Saddam or Gaddafi.
Nolan Stewart
Then why would Russia deploy S400 and israel start sperging out about a yogurt factory ? Really activates my almonds. If it creates a reaction from israel it only shows that the factory is a threat to their bullying hegemony in the region. Unless you're trying to convince me that it"s just a big misunderstanding.
William Morales
I think it's not that stupid, just look at PYD and Peshmerga. The militants never claimed they're a shield against government forces, but de facto they're the only guarantee of Iraqi Kurds independence. It can be similar with PMU, they won't claim they're going to be an Iranian buffer zone, but once the war is over - they'll effectively secure Iranian expansion.
David Bailey
Assad will be the turning point.. hopefully.
Nolan Kelly
Thank you for a very funny answer. hahaha
Julian Taylor
yea if they just keep a low profile Iran wins
Asher Long
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Dominic Ortiz
it could've easily been that way, which makes it all the more impressive. I still remember the mass FSA defections in the early days, the SAA was a ruin
Nicholas Morgan
the Syrian goverment is winning in most of Syria
..the Kurds remain another matter entirely, though
Aiden Clark
Oh shit, are they trying to break the siege of Raqqa?
Christopher Fisher
Hopefully we can send the refugee-kurds back to where they came from in the future then.
Jayden Clark
was just the map fucking out, it's back to normal now
Easton Diaz
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Easton Cook
>East Syria #Map. Syrian Army advancing against ISIS on all fronts from Uqayribat pocket to Ar Raqqa & East Homs entering #DeirEzzor
