Intel Management Engine is built into CPU's and works with its own operating system, outside of your main machine. meaning even if you have no hard drives and no operating system, intelligence agencies have full access to your computer, remotely.
it's just an example to make you understand that there is nothing you can do to prevent their access. your operating system, or encryption or anything else you can do, won't matter.
Easton Butler
Ryzen 5 1600 here so no worries
Mason Davis
>relevant yeah it's good progress, but if you actually read it, you'd know that you still can't disable ME
Luke Jackson
what if you arn't connected to the internet, or could you not just monitor network traffic and block it tsending / recieving data
Adam Peterson
>or could you not just monitor network traffic and block it tsending / recieving data again, none of that shit goes through the main system. you can't intercept or block anything.
Jayden James
>So we have found an undocumented PCH strap that can be used to switch on a special mode disabling the main Intel ME functionality at an early stage.
>Hence HAP protects against vulnerabilities present in all modules except RBE, KERNEL, SYSLIB, ROM, and BUP. However, unfortunately this mode does not protect against exploitation of errors at earlier stages.
reducing it down to the kernel and CPU booting modules is a good start
Angel Ramirez
>what if you arn't connected to the internet that only works if your computer is physically nowhere near any other device.
>reducing it down to the kernel and CPU booting modules is a good start it still shuts down the computer after 30 minutes. but yes, at least there is some progress. until intel updates the bios and makes it impossible yet again
Benjamin Miller
It doesnt matter if it goes through the main OS or not. You can monitor network traffic from the router, any data that is being sent or recieved has to pass through the router first, which would allow you to pick up on it and isolate it
Nolan Gomez
no, it doesn't. you clearly haven't read the post.
if you're being hit by that sort of thing, you need to adjust the entire structure of your security setup to compensate. the ME alone won't do anything significant if someone is dropping million dollar zero days on your arse.
Nolan Sanders
reminder, don't fall for the (((bitcoin))) meme either.
Samuel Walker
routers also have hardware backdoors mate. read vault7 leaks.
>no no, you can't do that they have backdoors too Oh ok so do this
> oh no you can do that, they have backdoors for that too
Fuck off.
Carter Green
>Bit too conspiracy for my liking. what the fuck do you mean? Vault7 has proofs you idiot. it's not a conspiracy theory when it's fucking proven.
Dylan Kelly
>Fuck off. you're just telling me that you want to BELIEVE that things are better than they are. Intel has ME, and your router also has microprocessors, can't you fucking realize that maybe that shit is in there too? at least fucking read vault7 before you dismiss shit because you want to be comfy believing in a lie.
Tyler Campbell
No. I unironically run a Pentium II.
Thanks for spreading the info, though.
Anthony Campbell
do you use a modern router? see vault7 for info on which brands are confirmed (hardware)backdoor'd
Joshua Adams
>computers are magic so just give up goy fuck off
>at least fucking read vault7 vault 7 was a release of CIA tools designed to be delivered and maintained by CIA agents. there are no remote tools in vault 7. the existence of vault 7 isn't even a credible argument, since for those tools to be used you would have to have a CIA agent digging through your underwear.
Austin Richardson
>wikileaks >credible
One moment while I stop laughing.
Owen Allen
>not getting a lenovo x200 and deleting the gbe descriptor to disable the ME pleb
AMD chips have a PSP. Only pre-2013 amd chips don't have it.
Lucas King
Run older equipment. I have an old Cisco firewall/VPN portal.
Jaxon Ortiz
Which cpu's aren't jewish anyway?
Tyler Ramirez
>vault 7 was a release of CIA tools no you retard, that was only part of it. there was also documentation on which hardware manufacturers had NSA backdoors built into their devices.
more credible than the cucks in here.
Connor Foster
AMD CPU from 2012 or earlier.
Aaron Powell
Yes, but I run it through a late 90's Cisco network security appliance/VPN portal, whichever i have hooked to a popular VPN service. Unused or unnecessary ports blocked. Well versed in the vault7 leaks and constantly alerting people as to the implications, with subtlety. Every device in the house has been secured as much as possible, Windows 10 on a separate drive for workplace continuity, hooked to a Core 2. No webcams. No smart TVs.
Jose Powell
yes. why do you think your HDD & network lights flicker even if the computer has been idle for hours?
Cameron Brooks
What about Russian Elbrus Cpu?
Jackson Carter
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Oliver Martin
STM32 32 Mhz CPU
Adam Evans
The Intel ME has a tcp/ip stack and ring0 system integration. It can read instructions or the ram bus and spit it out over TCP. The newer ME is completely a black box with wireless chipset communication and coordination.
The ME also has board spi and serial bus communication. Scariest of all it can be rewrite with a simple signed system microcode update to monitor whatever.
Sadly ARM has Trustzone and AMD has PSP so either way you are screwed. That is why I use such old 2010 hardware.
Brayden Ward
You might consider mentioning the more popular name of Intel vPro as well in these generals.
Ayden Williams
Any one of you want to comment on Russian cpu?
Luke Garcia
(((NEW RYZEN CHIP)))
Austin Wright
It's vaporware. Secure systems are air gaped ones.
To this present day, military-president urgent memos are paper delivered. Can't hack a courier and a chain of custody.
Andrew Young
Stick around a minute, I'm not familiar.
Leo Moore
>Can't hack a courier and a chain of custody. you wanna bet?
>t. hitman working for clintons
Blake Morgan
Fucking jews... Why are they doing this?
Evan Cruz
From quick reading of specs and some brushing on design, looks about as powerful as 4 Pentium III's, or perhaps a P4HT. I use a Pentium II for my daily needs without issue, but run older or light O/S. Your needs may vary, but I wouldn't run games or anything other than Linux on it.
Anthony Robinson
>human are you a bot?
Robert Gomez
With computers information is very liquid and the data can drips through the cracks very easily.
Physical media not so much. Same with Air Gaped Computers. You contain your messy liquidy data to your own little pond instead of giving it a channel to flow out to the sea.
This is why I have a USB Armoury and Intel compute stick. They are my air gaped processors that only touch my air gaped x200 laptop (contained within my LAN with access to my 10tb NAS.)
Jason Cooper
Oh man. That sucks. Now they're gonna know I order dominos every weekend and still play emulated snes games. I guess I'm fucked.
Josiah Watson
What if Intel is building giant botnet to run AI on it?
If every processor can be accessed remotely, then avary computer and device connected to the network can be part of a botnet. However this Intel botnet is AI's neural network.
Brayden Morales
i will next time i buy a cpu i mainly use my computer for shit like cubase and play roguelikes i dont care if kikes are watching
Jaxon Sanders
i have Q9650 3.0 gh running how bad it is ?
Michael Bell
Just because you care less about your person right to privacy doesn't mean it should be violated overall. As a software developer for investment bots we are constantly facing intrusion attempts. Luckily we keep our code on tapes in a vault tape player via a airgaped nonstandard system with no USB or IP support via floppy disk exports.
lol
William Bell
No.
Well, yes. I'm a sperg. I logical machine.
Matthew Smith
>Q9650 What fucking year is it in poolan?
Xavier Rogers
You're good. i3 and up have the ME or vPro technology. Core 2 is "safe" as long as you're not running wangblows 10
Hunter Ross
one in which we didn't took any refugee :^)
Angel Watson
For added security, use an outdated(80's or early 90's) file format too. That'll fuck 'em
Jacob Hill
I'd rather use jew backdoors than amd trash.
Grayson Torres
>estimated 1 million bitcoins nigga he's barely clinging on to 150k-1mil USD which keeps getting him into trouble.
He's fucked
Jason Long
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Angel Sanchez
shalom my fellow aryan
Jackson Anderson
TempleOS protects you from CIA niggers
Leo Bell
top kek
Easton Myers
Date of first CPUs with this fitted?
Michael Nelson
intel.com
James Turner
AWS + Google + Facebook data centers have enough compute power combined to simulate the number of human neurons in real time.
The biggest problem is managing such a large compute task across 100 million processors.
We will like be able to do it once 4nm dies have reached a large market saturation. Instead of 100 million processors roughly 10 million processors will be needed to simulate a human mind in real time.
The current problem in AI is freeform vs skeletalform learning. Once we are able to evolve a form of genetic inheritance for the Work to overlay we should be able to grow intelligence from a syntactical meta structure.
Sentient AI will be reached within our lifetimes. At that point we wouldn't call it AI, we call it SI (Synthetic Intelligence.) Then the rise of corporate cybernetic BOOM begins.
Jackson Nelson
That's not even that tinfoil. A friend of mine works on their neural networks stuff, and I always get spooky vibes when it comes up. NDAs up the ass etc.
>NDAs up the ass etc. yup, always. if only you'd know what the company I work at is working on..
Nathaniel Foster
Yeah. I'm going into machine learning now. I want to be spooky too.
Landon Collins
vPro. Core i3 and up.
Lincoln Peterson
>machine learning nah, that ain't shit. don't worry.
Jaxon Rivera
Time to plan The Exit
Andrew Flores
Got nothing that new but good to know about.
Jordan Richardson
this
James Lee
>implying Uganda has computers
Camden Perez
oh i am sure that NSA is itching all over to see what's inside of some random autist from 4 chan
they want surveliance data to research one's mind and controll it by changing his surroundings and to do this they need mass propaganda
William Collins
No one's going to buy your shitty Ryzen, m8
Camden Davis
germany fines people for tweets. how long before Sup Forumsacks are fucked over?
Leo Gutierrez
thankfully our government does not have money for retarded things and even if they would have that kind of funds they would fuck this up see "Cyfryzacja of ZUS"
Hunter Hall
>thankfully our government does not have money for retarded things fines give the government money, it doesn't cost more money than it brings in.
also, poland gets LOADS of money from EU
Oliver Evans
>Do you have israeli made hardware backdoors in your computer?
No, I use Mac and those AMT chips are not included.
Aaron Bennett
>government sponsored information manipulation >literally CIS from Ghost In the Shell: SAC 2nd
Nathan Sanchez
MAC have intel cpu's
Blake Hughes
I still think it all started with the first analyst appearing on the world market. trying to figure out what the enemy ( 2nd WW) is doing next. They failed pretty much. they worked after the war as analysts for companys on the stock market to make future predictions on which stocks rise and fall. After they failed again, they come to that conclousion that the mind of the people is to complex as long as there are so many individuals. It would be easier to make people think specific things to direct them into a directions you want to have them. all that collected data is used and have a enormous worth for those company's. There was once a German writer/journalist who was very good in making predictions through numbers and calculations ... after his last book he died surprisingly on a heart attack. I don't know much about all that, mostly only through his books, but as he died it was like my mentor died
Nicholas Martinez
But there's no hardwiring to network interface and there's no amt.
William Ortiz
>it doesn't cost more money than it brings in. that's not how it works in here xD
>also, poland gets LOADS of money from EU can we please end this meme ? we are paying more to UE AND we must obey they retarded economical laws that are not allowing for economical freedom so even if we have more money in gibs they are spent on sustaining what was destroyed because of those lwas
Gabriel Myers
ummm... no. The AMT was chipset baked but now the ME is processor baked since Ivybridge I think. Unless you are talking powerpc.
Damn why did PowerPC die again?
Jayden Gomez
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Evan Collins
>Damn why did PowerPC die again?
They just could not deliver cpu's fast enough.
How about using non-intel motherboard. If there is no vPro and AMT enabled and no direct access to peripherals, then it should be at least more secure.
Chase Powell
Yes, i have israeli backdoor, china backdoor (router/smart appliance), and russian backdoor (av/firewall/software) and us backdoor (windows/android).
so if i valuable enough, the other agencies will also know that, so i comfy atm.
Ian Russell
Also no. see and ME runs it's own kernel and subprocess, has spi and serial abilities, and a serial ip translation stack.
Only way is to disable some of its storage subsystem from running, or air gaping your system.
Angel Parker
>or air gaping your system.
Intel vPro includes secret embedded 3g chip and I'm not even kidding. It is part of the anti-theft features.
Dominic Bennett
this is how i see it too. plus i can poison all the wells at once if they are really interested in my bullshit.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i fucking hate people looking at my though :(
Jack Richardson
this image is so retarded it hurts me if you are paranoid then just use monero
Mason Nelson
See
Luis Thomas
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Cameron King
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Noah Rodriguez
and lastly
Jose Powell
Thanks.
That pretty much means Intel users are fucked.
Liam Lopez
post about the 3g chip on Sup Forums please
Ethan Flores
>you know what has to be done
Benjamin Bell
stop posting this tinfoil bullshit it's literally impossible to do this outside of lab conditions