Do you genuinly believe Europe could become a bunch of caliphates, or is it just a rhetorical exaggeration?

Do you genuinly believe Europe could become a bunch of caliphates, or is it just a rhetorical exaggeration?

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yes and no... some area's will be flooded over.... Germanastan.... sweedenastan... franceastan.... but other areas will stand it will cause an all out war at some point

Why would I want it to get that bad?

Why are there Muslims in Europe anyway?

Where in history have any large population of muslims left the middle east and not at least attempted to take over

>Poland red
>Czechya red
>Switzerland red
>Austria not

England, France, Germany and Sweden have already fallen to the Caliphate

It isn't going to happen - it's happening now

No, but in a few decades many European countries will become like Lebanon. Or Bosnia.
Even worse, because in both cases Muslims and Christians in these countries share a lot. Muslims in West and natives are rather foreign cultures.

>Implying Europe hasn't gone through worse things than this
this fear mongering is pathetic at best

Rapid demographic shift leads to major problems. I tried to tell you but no one listens to poor old irrelevant Serbia.

well the idea is that since the muslims are not assimilating, yet the mass immigration is only planning to expand while white birthrates are tiny that in the near future there will be two extremely different cultures competing for their interests in most european countries and since whites are taught that violence and aggression is evil and muslims are taught well, look at the middleast right now, that the muslims will win and establish dominance over europe, however more realistically europe would just be split open by russia and america looking to "fight terrorism" and restart the post ww2 breton woods system that brought them so much wealth and save their dying economies

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Why is my country a caliphate and austria isn't? Was this made by an american?

So you think there will be a majority of religious muslims in Europe, lets say in next 50 years?

France, Spain, Germany, Belgium, England, Sweden - definetely, its just a matter of time. Wait a decade or so...
Balanks probably wont be affected, cause.. who wants to live in the balkansa.
Eastern Europe is way to based.
And other countries just arent as interesting to shitskins.

another Reconquista will be required

Majority? Majority? One is too many.

The last time there was this much black skin on European soil was the bubonic plague, and it wiped out 2/3 of Europe

do you genuinely not understand the importance of birthrates ?

But how exactly would muslims win?
Radical muslims hold no position of power, neither in politics, nor in the media, nor in army/police.
You might point on some politicians with muslim roots, but those are certanly not radical muslims

I do, but I believe many right-wing underestimate muslim integration and the attractivness of western life-style

implying any muslim is not a radical
> fuck off shitskin

its very easy for someone to become radical, in anything. people behave in cultural groups, and if that group is threatened by competing interests of another group it will defend itself by springing up radicals. there is only so much resources, and so much room, you will have to ask one group to give up their own for another and that creates conlict

There is no such thing as a radical muslim. Muslim is a muslim, either hes gonna slit your throat or parade someone else to do it for him.

Large numbers of people DO NOT INTEGRATE.

Kek. They're the experts at it. They don't try, they succeed, with inferior numbers at that.

If such a conflict ever came up, I would imagine that the group which controls the politics, media, police and army would win
You probably know that muslims in Europe are mostly lower class, and it is basically impossible for a radical muslim to gain a high position in western society

It's nonsense.

Shouldn't Europe already be a Christian/Catholic caliphate? It's not, because most people don't want to live in a theocracy. Only a small handful of nutjubs do.

this

yes.

Just Germany and Sweden, when it turns into a caliphate the rest will move there and the problem is contained. this is the end game.

Is the same true for Christians aswell?

well see, as the percentage of muslims grows so will the potential for radicals and sympathizers in government. i mean you could have a situation where the structures of power were all dominated by white men even if the demographics of the state didnt match but how long do you think that would last with the current political climate of equality and structural racism? and even still you have to keep them from just creating literal enclaves in your country that do not obey your authority at all

When was the last time you saw a christian blow him self up or celebrate people dying?

Sure, enclaves and paralell societies are very bad, but I can't see how they could lead to a coup.
You need to control police and military if you want control the country, and I simply dont see a way how radical muslims could achieve that in the west

The 2040 great european islamic war

Attackers:
> European Algeria
> Germanistan
> Swedistan
> Greater Molenbeek
> Bosnia
> Denmark

Defenders:
> Ireland
> Portugal
> Poland
> Czech Republic
> Hungary
> Slovenia
> Slovakia
> Serbia
> Romania
> Croatia
> Finland
> Ukraine

In Civil war with islamic factions:
> Spain
> United Cuckdom
> Norway
> Greece
> Italy
> Russia

I didn't but I read about European christians burning witches, and African christians burn witches to this day.
But it doesn't mean that all Christians support witch burning, does it?

it will all burn.....
the usa will have a civil war as well
> don't count are ass in to save you

>believe
Its not a question of faith its just logical continuation of existing trends. They out breed you out of majority by 2050, elect a string of muslim presidents who will change constitutions and make islam a state religion.

>retards giving Muslims way more credit then they deserve
I don't understand why you mouth breathers keep insisting on doing this. Muslims are not unified - and I don't mean just in terms of the Sunni/Shia split. Creation of countries in the ME hasn't just divided it physically. Quite literally every state in the ME has their own Islam in the sense that its politics are all different, with the most infamous being wahhabism. For a caliphate to exist, you would need an Ummah (complete unity among Muslims) and that just aint happening.

Muslims are also largely lazy and unmotivated. The expectation on children in the average Muslim household is going to school and finding a decent job - not praying regularly and reading the Quran. Hell if the kid said 'Hey I want to be an Islamic scholar', the parents would lose their shit and ask how in the hell he expects to make a living. Establishing a caliphate for these types of people is quite literally beyond them.

So stop giving them so much ideological credit, like how they take over countries slowly or build fucking caliphates. They aren't smart or motivated enough to accomplish such things.

norway is safe imo they cant stand that much cold

How is the situation in Ireand? Are there many illeagl immigrants?

If Europeans lose the approaching and inevitable civil war against mudslime invaders then yes - Europe (at least some parts of it) becomes caliphate

I agree. If Muslims had the motivation and organization to take over, then Middle East wouldn't be such a shithole in the first place.

i know right ? OP is not sober ^^

They don't lead to a coup, they will lead to sharia law being voted in via democracy.

All muslims need to do is to keep breeding, take every gib they can from the gov and keep showing support for cucked liberal/socialist parties that support uncontrolled immigration from islamic nations + hate speech/anti islamophobia laws

Once you get like 30%+ muslim population you can maybe start a proper islamic party and from there it will just be just a matter of time until the end of democracy.

I don't know about other countries, but Germany, you can't democratically dismantle demoracy.
Any party that wants to remove the democratic system would be seen as an enemy of the state and would be destroyed

> cant be a enemy of the state if you are the state
> the more you know

> Germany
> Democracy
kek
You need freedom of speech for democracy. You do not have it - hence - no democracy ALREADY.

No country has 100% freedom of speech

A party that is against German constitution is illegal and thus can't form the government

...

>A party that is against German constitution is illegal
How does that work with amendments? If you're a party that wants to amend the constitution, can the ruling parties declare you illegal because you're against the current constitution?

See how Turkey has been doing under Erdogan. They used to be a democracy, now they are a "democracy".

If you achieve a majority that is committed to shariah & loud about it, they will be able to do what the fuck they want and no supreme court will be able to stop them.

I also bet they will call it something like the democratic shariah party

You cant expect non western cultures to just respect the rule of law like western people do. Think of it like crossing the road with a red light, germans won't do it because they have been taught to not do it, but some foreigners just cross anyways and there is literally nothing physically preventing them from doing so

so true
> but were all fucked the final red-pill is there no peaceful way to stop this

We have a normal part of constitution that can be changed with 2/3 majority.
But there is also a unchangeable part of constitution, that includes fundamental stuff like democracy or federal system.
If a party or organization desires to change those, then the court can declare them as enemies of constitution and thus illegal

>bolen und czechy
>no hitlerland

But Turkey has always been muslim.
So its just a country becoming more conservative and authoritarian, just like Poland or Hungary.
In no way is this a hostile takeover of another religion

HAHHAHAHAH
FUCK YOU CAN GO TO HELL FOR ALL THAT I CARE
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>the final red-pill is there no peaceful way to stop this

Exactly.

France will be majority muslim. Not Shariah - at least not likely in the next fifty years, but who knows. Algeria once was open like France and IS now shariah tier.

In Germany, Sweden, Belgium and Austria, it is very possible that Islam will become dominant religion, because both the churches and the socialists have allied with Islam.

Either way: the muslims themselves believe it. They absolutely do. And not just Erdolf, this was years ago: youtube.com/watch?v=QQZKCH2hwa0

Now they got Sadiq Khan, ruling over a minority white English London. Where do you think this will go, if the current trends keep up...?

Ah, ok. That's good.

Just give it a few more decades
Germans didn't ruin Rome in 5 years

Fuck off, Jew slave

yall are fucked. this is not a drill

laugh well you can
>franceastan has nukes
>does not think the goatfuckers will use them

Jude

>Poland as part of Eurabia
zajebie ci ty kurwo

Nice proxy, ameriburger.

> No country has 100% freedom of speech
How is democratic political discussion possible without freedom of speech?

You do understand that once majority of german citizens are muslim things will change right?

>65% of germany is muslim
>Elect democratic shariah party
>Party wants to change constitution
>Court declares it illegal
>Government riles up the people and forces the change
> Civil war OR supreme court gets BTFO'd
> If civil war happens, muslims are most likely to win.
> New constitution is written (it's full on shariah)

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democratic political discourse is only possible if people share a certain ideological framework.
If there is a too big ideological difference between different groups of society, no discussion will be possible

>certain ideological framework
So you admit that Germany is not democratic?

Of course not you stupid faggot, and noone ever said it should.

first come the males, struggle learn the language and most important learn how to trick the welfare system, then they bring their families, some legal some not and then they breed like the pigs they are. With 6-8 kids each, do the numbers, they only need 10-15% to replace civilized people in 1-2 generations

Around 2% of Germans view themselves as muslims. What do you think, how long would it take to change that figure to 65%?

20 years.

What? No! Every democracy needs a certain consens to exist. For example, if 50% of a society want western democracy, and 50% want a sharia state, then democratic discourse wouldn't be possible, because no compromise can be made between those groups

> compromise
Why there should be compromise in democracy?

This is also the problem. They are too stupid to do anything, that's why they just leech off countries welfare. That's why instead of stopping in Turkey, they continue into Germany, France, Finland, Sweden and Finland for easy money where they can sit around and do nothing. Eventually enough muslims are in the country where the welfare literally runs out because noone is working. The country begins to fall, and you get the same situation as the Middle East as it is today. Absolute chaos and anarchy. The only good thing that would ever come out of this is proof to other countries that immigration of muslims does not work, meaning that process like this would never be repeated.

how is that even a democracy? its like saying you can choose any car you want, except it can only be this one certain model. you can choose red or blue paintjob though.

Yes it could happen, and if nothing is done in the next 100 years then it literally will happen, just due to demographics and birthrates alone, not factoring in immigration.

I hope we will fucking do something about it in the next decade or it's going to be a fucking bloodbath

Democracy is based on consense and the idea that the minority accept the will of majority.
If 51% majority decides to genocide 49% minority, then minority will hardly accept the democratic decision

Celto-Roman Britannia became England easily enough, and probably thanks to far FEWER invaders than are presently breeding away in English cities.

>Never be repeated
We almost had a literal marxist elected into office.
Liberals don't care about history or reason.

>its like saying you can choose any car you want, except it can only be this one certain model. you can choose red or blue paintjob though.
Exactly. If a democracy is to work, the people need the consesnse that they want a specific car, then they can vote about the paintjob

And we are in deep shit in EU because retards imported people (invaders) who are not compatible with western democracy and want to destroy it. Your solution?

The difference is that Norman invaders came with weapons and became the English upper class.
Meanwhile, muslims have no power and are the lower class in Europe

i am not a fan of democracy in the first place, but that doesnt really give the people any meaningful choices about how they are governed

It's not only "Germans" that you need to count, it's all of migrants & "refugees".

There are projections that put 2020 numbers at close to 20 million

I would say that by 20-25 years from now, 65% is possible.

The native german population is also very old on average and the birth rate is well below replacement rate.

I would argue that democracy only works if people already agree on the broad political direction, and only vote for minor details.
If people have completely different ideologies, then a dictatorship might be the better form of government.

Well, for starters, I wouldn't give those people citizenship, as long as they are not integrated. If they are not citizens, they can't influence our electoral outcome

Germans are retarded to the bone. This is their interpretation of democracy and not you or I understand why it is so.
Maybe it is in the water, maybe it is their language that ruins their mental composition.

I was talking about the English, not the fucking Normans, Bernd. The Muslims have far more power than you admit, anyway. They've inveigled their way into the legal profession, all major political parties, the police forces and even have a presence in the army. They are far better organised than the atomised natives, thanks to their mosques and other organisations, and control many levels of retail in the country. They are thus quite comparable with the Anglo-Saxons, who were invited in by a stupid British ruling class as mercenaries, much as the socialists import Muslims as voters, and who then occupied all the important nodes of communications in Britannia.

user, humans lie.

>easily
lmao it was non-stop war for hundreds of years, celts vs britons vs northmenn vs angles vs saxons.
Eventually wessex became the most powerful part of england and then had to fight the entire danish army in York, march back to Hastings and fight the entire norman army, and the normans just took the place of the aristocracy.

No genocide, no replacement of people just a few thousand Normans took over as lords and the royal family.

It was endless fucking war, and after all that endless war the majority population still had no power. If anything it just proves that muslims are delusional to think they will take over anything when really they will just ruin the country and willingly be ruled by kikes and white people

In the next 50 years, Muslims could compise around 20-30% of the population of Western European countries, which is enough to make them the most organised religious force in society who will be able to wield huge amounts of political influence.

Get out of here, you are too reasonable for this shithole.

20 millions would be still only 25% percent of German population. Of course, you must also assume that the muslim birth rate countinues to be that high, and that none of muslims become secular or non-religious. And both of those assumtions dont seem to be correct, if we look at the data

>Do you genuinly believe Europe could become a bunch of caliphates
more like SHOULD

>i believe

well, there's your problem you are not basing your decisions on rational data.

in britain for example, 2nd and 3rd generation muslims are actually more radical than the first