The Left is backstabbing anti-fascists now. Every major left media outlet has just pulled out their knives and stabbed antifa in the back.
Anyone got the strategic information on why the left would backstab the most effective street movement in America? Antifa was winning. Will we beat antifa now that they don't have leftist support?
"Yes, antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-nazis" - washington post
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I dont have concrete info but my guess informed by history is that the neoliberals have learned from the 1930s and so on and so on *sniff*
The violent actions of the original antifa and Rotkampferbund were what helped the National Socialists gain power
Nazis were almost as unpopular then with centrists as they are now BUT
The centrists were more scared of communists
My guess is neoliberals and globalists are reining in antifa just like they reined in Occupy
Just like they drained up and used the unions
Scattered thugs will remain to be used in the traveling protest circuit but if official support has been withdrawn I think the danger has largely passed
god bless you.
The hero we need.
>Anyone got the strategic information on why the left would backstab the most effective street movement in America?
Simple, they started attacking journalists for filming them. It wasn't funny any more that the journos felt their sacred, untouchable class was now being attacked by these violent mobs, so now they must immediately disavow.
Sam Hyde was right
Because all people left of center are cowards who don't believe their own rhetoric and just side with any group that hurts the people that affect their revenue stream directly.
All leftists are spineless cowards.
The reason is the internet. The left used to be able to get away with not saying anything, but now they can't because videos of antifa being violent thugs are spread with the greatest of ease.
They finally baited the right into doing irreversible damage to itself, antifa is now a liability. Not much more to it.
the comments are all pretty pro-left though
the hardcore twitter leftists are doubling down on ANTIFA ARE ANTIFASCISTS IF YOU OPPOSE THEM YOU ARE FASCISTS
>the hardcore twitter leftists are doubling down on ANTIFA ARE ANTIFASCISTS IF YOU OPPOSE THEM YOU ARE FASCISTS
Excellent
They've all been so brainwashed they can't change course
This intolerable system will collapse due to incompetence of our opponents
>Anyone got the strategic information on why the left would backstab the most effective street movement in America?
>be Antifa
>assault reporters that try and film you
>chant about how you don't want the USA to exist
>destroy statues that have the support of over 60% of Americans
>harass disabled veteran
>beat 3 people up with bike lock
>throw improvised weapons at police officers
Thereby alienating ever greater numbers of normies, hopefully they keep it up
based tho a terrorist
Why did pelosi and the elite rules of "leftism" betray antifa so fast?
BLM, antifascism, bernie sanders, who is next for the leftist elite to target and destroy?
I've seen a lot of good opinions in this thread but I have to think it's just plausable deniability.
"We here at CNN certainly wouldn't OFFICIALLY APPROVE of you driving to the house of (effective non-libtard public figure) located at (insert addrezs here) and climing over the fence and breaking in through the unbarred bathroom window you can clearly see in this graphic we have on screen. More over we would DEFINATE not PAY YOUR LEGAL FEES. Coming up in the next hour Mueller's investigative team confident they will have enough evidence by the 2018 elections to prove Russia exists. Trump is clearly finished."
What were they supposed to do? Openly admit they worship Stalin and secretly want Holomodor 2.0?
Movement of peace
Sam Hyde on being accused of mass shootings, from wikipedia:
>"My wife's boyfriend (open relationship) heard it from the news first and so he and my wife's son were both scared silly for a few days before everything was explained. I also got a call from my rabbi frantically trying to talk me out of doing anything more violent until finally I managed to explain to him that it was a hoax."
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This is an easy one. Jews love the U.S. economy even though it is still majority white. Trumps policies have made the future of the U.S. economy more relevant than it would have been under any other politician to the left of him. It would be too easy at this point to unite an American population against them, with the full power of the U.S. government, if they continue to pursue anti-American tactics and policies (whatever that may be). Prepare for people carrying the U.S. flag saying that America has always been a race mixing, jew loving paradise of white people who hate themselves and want to be replaced by immigrants because they have become too "decadent".
Ultimately this is a great and wonderful thing for the new right. All of these shitty cuckhold politicians either failed to denounce antifa or actually endorsed them (Paul Ryan). They have exposed themselves to being defined as the Trotskyist that they are. I can't wait for midterm elections. The New Right must capitalize on this as much as possible.
Why won't you understand this is to give the Left back their victim card?
Running around and beating people over the head with bike locks for shits and giggles while having the entireity of the mainstream media and half of the political elite backing you is a pretty hard fucking sell to most people. With the media talking shit about Antifa it will once again make them look like golden hearted rebels, fighting an oppressive and racist machine, slandering them in the media and headed by Donald 'Literally Hitler' Trump.
Don't celebrate this shit. You are playing yourselves.
This 100%, they only care about leftist violence if it affects their own class.
Hmm, so the left support things like bernie sanders, blm, and antifa for short term gain then drop them for long-term virtue signalling?
Doesn't backstabbing bernie sanders, socialism, blm, and antifascists hurt the left though?
THEY ARE POSITIONING THEMSELVES FOR 2018
THEY ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN THE MIDTERMS DO NOT BE FOOLED
Money. I dont know why nobody's mentioned this. The more the public becomes aware of antifa the more they will realize theyre (antifa) just a bunch of dangerous violent retards. If MSM continues supporting antifa they're going to lose support and money. Theyre just trying to get ahead of the curve so they can say "WE'VE been denouncing these thugs for months! Trust us!"
>the media
>left-wing
Fuck off back to /ptg/ retard. The media Zionist and anti-white. It will flop from from far-left to far-right to protect Jews and attack whites.
I can't comment on all of those individual elements, but I will say that the Left has always portrayed itself as the underdog and this is how Leftists garnered public sympathy and were able to get away with anything up to literal murder for so long.
Leftists were MLK jr, Bernie Sanders, Nelson Mandela, even characters such as Che Gueverra and Leon Trotsky could be publicly revered. All seen as rebels, with hearts of gold, fighting an evil right wing cruelty of Hitlers, Tsars and the KKK.
It is now however, plainly obvious to the average person in the street that freedom of speech is being heavily curtailed by the Left, the internet is being censored by the Left, and so much of the media has massive Leftits bias. This had led the Leftists from being looked at sympathetically, to people now seeing them as the Establishment. And this is what has given this 'new' right so much traction, to the point where people who are self admittedly left leaning, are they themselves beginning to speak out at the absurdity of the Leftists.
By seeming to turn against Antifa, especially a t a time when trust in the media is at rock bottom to begin with, it may people pause for thought. "Well, if the evil media are opposing them, maybe they really are the good guys?"
Or I'm just paranoid as fuck. But with Jews...
If you had a bunch of kikes implicitly supporting you, even going so far as to refuse to condemn you when you attack innocent people, you'd probably think twice.
Antifa want to think they're rebels, but they cant be rebels with the implicit support of the mainstream media, especially if that media is owned and controlled by a bunch of billionaires.
Because 'the left' of the American media are not left, they're pussy neo-liberals who are just as threatened by the idea of a movement comprised of a lot of genuine socialists as the neo-nazis are.
They're propped up by corporate interests, and the idea of an emboldened well-coordinated street activist movement scares the FUCK out of anyone supported by corporate money. They want to get rid of Trump, but they don't like the idea of Antifa being the ones who brings him down. All they want to do is be stuck eternally in the Obama years, but that's not going to work. When Trump collapses, things will HAVE to change.
The Left has no principles.
If something doesn't work, they just slime to something else. Antifa being the good guys just doesn't work.
I think it's deeper than that, they have grown in such a sheltered enviroment that the tough of people in the street doing anything scares the shit out of them,
>Antifa want to think they're rebels, but they cant be rebels with the implicit support of the mainstream media
How fucking retarded are you? Did you not read OP?
>neo-liberals
Stopped reading there.
No one wins if antifa wins.
They used used them as pawns against the alt-right and then promptly sacrificed the fools.
2 birds 1 stone kind of deal.
>mfw making the 'antifa are the neo-nazi equivalent on the left' argument before it was cool
hahaha can't wait to see the layers of cognitive dissonance on all the libtards who flung their digital monkey faeces at me .
I think they realized that by letting antifa run wild they were actually pushing more people to the opposing side, it was having the opposite effect they wanted
>the idea of an emboldened well-coordinated street activist movement scares the FUCK out of anyone supported by corporate money
Antifa is supported by corporate money. Why do you think they never oppose anything besides anti-immigrant movements? The rich love immigrants because they lower wages and enable the rich to keep more profits. Just ask anyone who owns a farm or construction company that employs immigrants. They're quite open about loving cheap labor.
The one issue that antifa mobilizes on is the one where they agree with the ruling classes. That should really make you think.
>ANTIFA WAS WINNING GUISE!!!
No, no you weren't. The only people who didn't see that your shit wasn't sustainable was you. No surprise that you faggots deck yourselves out in red and black since Checkers is the only game you know how to play.
>angsty teenagers
>effective street movement
pick one
>No surprise that you faggots deck yourselves out in red and black since Checkers is the only game you know how to play.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SIICK BURN
Basically this. They think they can take Trump down by acting smug and just calling him a dumb poopie head or whatever. Street action is not done with the intention of winning a popularity contest, but it has an important historical precedent, and has been historically met with the exact same kind of negative reaction even though it does achieve results.
Id say consider yourselves lucky the media is turning on you. The alternative was the rise of Nazism in the US, despite your claims to be fighting them you are setting up the exact situation that they thrive in. Extreme chaos calls for extreme order and destroying private property, attacking people for having opinions, and constantly putting cities into states of emergency will in fact make Nazism far more attractive to the average joe simply because they aren't doing those things and are going about their demonstrations legally and orderly while having a historical record of beating down commies and reinstating order. Even if people dont agree with them they will see it as a preferable alternative to anarchy and even a enticing one.
Why did people hate Mosley even before WW2? He is such a gent. I honestly don't understand how people could hate him before the whole Nazi thing.
Alright so first the nazis were purged, now the communists, next the jews right?
I mean really its like saying you are going to put out a fire by throwing gas on it.
Because this board started pushing back on the violence on the right. We told people not to attack and bring weapons to protests and get their shit pushed in for the optics.
Antifa is cancer if its the only side fighting. Antifa has been cancer for over a year and the unamerican activities of antifa can't be hidden in the mob anymore. A year ago, normies didn't know who antifa was. Now everbody knows and the MSM is trying to distance themselves because they know they can't control them anymore.
You got to realize that the Democrat elite aren't really leftists in the traditional sense. They're just authoritarians. They view the Antifa riots as useful in helping create a permanent underclass, so that they can dangle welfare in front of them in exchange for votes. The authoritarian Democrats then consolidate power by finding allies in big business, like Wall Street banks and big tech companies. Republicans are clueless to stop it since they still view this as a left vs. right philosophical debate, when it's really just about power.
So why did the Dem elite reign Antifa in? Simple, because again, the Dem elite aren't really leftists. It was getting to a point where Antifa was starting to overreach and further support might cause backlash against the big businesses, especially social media, that were supporting Antifa. So the Dems throw Antifa under the bus to protect their real power base, big business. Antifa was just a pawn.
Let's not overthink this, they very deliberately help set fire to your house, now they stand back and say oh wow that's horrible that your house is on fire. They then cut holes in the fire hose.
You beat me to it.
Please tell me they're not using the "these are not real anti-fascists" narrative.
Because they realize if they support Antifa there will be 12 more years of Trump.
How many times were they told they were nothing but modern brownshirts but still didn't get it?
>the most effective street movement in America
year boooooy
The mighty morphine flower arrangers are here to save the world
just let them catch their breath first
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>the most effective street movement in America
year boooooy
The mighty morphine flower arrangers are here to save the world
just let them catch their breath first...
i can't wait til the coming chimp out. like imagine how it feels, imagine how it feels to be any american antifa member right now:
>first the country turns on you by voting in trump
>then soros turn on you by not paying
>then the mainstream media turn on you
all the """rights""" they thought they had claim to have been stripped.
now they're going to have a protest, possibly a large one, maybe even chimp out more than usual. except this time the police will turn on them.
and trump just re-allowed police to use military grade gear.
good dog
Grow up son, both the stormfags and antifag, are tools. The guys that direct them are paid by the masters. They use them as necessary, then dumped. The status quo, never changes, the tools are sacrificed, when their purpose is served, there is no left or right. Just rich people with power.
of course they gonna attack us you cuck. now you see the diffrance between anarchists and liberals? do you actuality believed those alex jones conspiracy theories.
anyway. no body gives a fuck about the big media, it was only a matter of time, and the fact that they went from imbracing us to slamming us in only a week further disqualifies them to their readers
This is simple. The media stopped getting paid to support antifa. they are corporate whores and saw which way the wind was blowing.
i love seeing the left eat each other alive, every time.
who's streets? antifa's streets.
Soo, the question remains. Will there still be riots and shit to watch on jewtube? I am hoping this infact makes antifa louder amd crazier.
I bet more than a few Antifas figure out about the Jews behind the curtains. They probably just found out about Stalin killing Bolshevik Jews too and quickly spotted the parallels with modern Jewish dominance in society.
Those two events combined make a stomach turning combination for (((Elites))) all over the world.
As Kevin MacDonald said in the Culture Of Critique, "Two can play at identity politics and when that happens, woe be unto the side with fewer numbers."
The Left still has BLM so it makes zero difference in the greater scheme of things, they're just cutting their losses and antifa will retreat into the background just like they were before.
whose* pleb
>the most ridiculous bunch of losers in America
no doubt, sub to Seb Green on youtube, he does streams of their protests
I thought no one owned anything in your commie dream land
make up your minds idiots
fucking weird. I noticed the same thing about 2 nights ago. Suddenly there was a influx of anti-antifa articles and posts,
this is not our "commie dream land"
this is capitalist occupied land, but we're liberating it one street at a time from the alt right reactionary forces
It's simple friendo. They see Antifa as something that will destroy them completely if they keep on being associated with it. They're now trying to distance themselves and pretend they never supported them.
If we allowed this, we would be wasting a golden opportunity. If we could point out all the support they have been giving Antifa in the past and show how now they are backing off, it could not only tie them to the movement but effectively end them through their own hypocrisy. DOWN WITH THE MSM!!!!
PRAISE KEK!!!!
>Anyone got the strategic information on why the left would backstab the most effective street movement in America?
>get your shit pushed in by Sup Forums virgins when the police wasn't there to help you
heh
>now you see the diffrance between anarchists and liberals?
fuck off commie
The press was merrily supporting them until antifa started attacking journalists.
>first they came for the alt right and I said fug da bolis :DDD because Spencer is a fag lol
>then they came for the Trump supporters and I said fug da bolis :DDD because I'm not a Trump supporter
>finally they came for me and I said HALP BOLIS :DDD
>antifa was winning
lmao. no, you fags were losing again. So much so that even the media backed off from support. losers. antida are worse than nazis because nazis are open about their ideals. antifa are worse than nazis
>media turning far right to attack whites
uh ok
well either way thanks for the entertainment
Wait, these companies want clicks, right? If we click the links, doesn't that encourage similar content? Maybe we should only avoid clicking links that are biased in the other direction. If enough people clicked links like this, WaPo might change their bent.
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Happens a lot you'll be surprised.
you guys try to rally again and more is granteed
u mad?
mad about what? we won your asses, i dont see who there gonna be another Alt Cucks rally again. i read the Berkeley's "week of free speech" is canceled
Far right corrals us into useful idiots for Zionist/oil wars. Trump is "far right" and bombed Syria for Israel.
What, 300 people beat up what, 1 guy and completely lost the public support in 1 day?
Milo's free speech week is still on.
Did you liberate that truck or did that white rick turd in the front seat buy it for you.
Fooking larptards.
don't you think that's sad, considering Berkeley is famous for its free speech movements in the 60's and 70's?
Genuine question.
Isn't debate an important tool in intellectual centers like colleges?
Personally I think it's a step backwards to be closed to different opinions, and will lead to duller minds.
come on, the violence was minimal. no serious wounds. we just evacuated you and your whining about it is pathetic. and as for the media bullshit, who fucking cares? the media hated Trump too but he won didn't he?
>“Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them…We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.”
Does this mean that the useful idiots have outlived their usefulness? What will (((their))) next step be?
Antifa is a joke. They only exist because liberals are ignorant, but that is quickly changing.
>jew owned media attacks Nazis but due to the weakness of the Weimar constitution and commie threat fail
>Nazis win power and purge the jewish owned press
>jew owned media and interests in Britain see Mosley and fear the rising fire
>oy vey best to stomp this out before it gains traction like in Germany
antifa causes a crisis within the liberal, it splits the left. thats OK. we consider liberals, as, to barrow Alt right term "cuckleftis" we gonna see who's /ourguys/ are now
I thought they had attacked journalists in previous protests though.
I agree, I feel the same way about being tolerant to an intolerant religion, that will not bend or compromise to the culture it moves in to.
Also I think not tolerating debate or other points of view makes Berkeley intolerant.
And I don't think all conservatives are intolerant, just as not all liberals are really tolerant.
We're debating now, and I think it's helpful to move forwards as a whole, instead of maintaining divisions in the populous.
I would love to see screenshots of Antifa forums of them freaking out that everyone is turning on them
It's not backstabbing, antifas make the left look even worse by association. It gives ammo to their ideological opponents. This is proof the left isn't completely suicidal.
look man, maybe.... MAYBE.... we could tolerate you guys up until charlottesville.
but no way for it now, we are worlds apart. you really did yourselves in that day. at bottom, and maybe you dont realize that, you are pure reaction to the occupy movement and to BLM.