American socialism

Defend a free-market approach to disasters. You can't, but your attempt will be entertaining.

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Government response to a disaster is not socialism. If it was the Roman Empire would be known as socialist.

In a communist country, none of those helping citizens could have afforded boats, because buying a boat just to fish for fun is too bourgeois

It culls an unrestrained, growing population on a planet with increasingly limited resources.
Socialism will always lead to a dysgenic outcome unless the government is some sort of Authoritarianism. To deny natural selection is to deny God and to deny God is asking for the roof to fall on top of you.

Business owners don't want thier costumers to die. Checkmate, socialists.

>people help each other
The free market doesn’t dictate you can’t, more than half the people in that pic are citizens

Who said I intend to defend it? I want to see the Texans who voted against Sandy aid have to say when the next relief bill comes up.

>To deny natural selection is to deny God
I guess we should just start killing people with inherited diseases or defects

>Defend a free-market approach to disasters
There's one right there in your pic.

>what is citizens help one another
>what is citizens donate money to victims
>what is government doesn't always need to handle literally everything

saving a life is a good ROI?

looks like people freely SAving one another without GovErnment intervention. good one, goyim

>anything gubmint does is automatically socialism
>what are private charities
>what is the concept of people helping each other

Nigger, neck yourself

The free market has done everything down here. All your limp dick government has done is come in 4 days late, and start fucking things up and slowing us down. Just like they always do.

t. Texan

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unless you steal bottled water or Tylenol, and then you get murdered for violating the NAP

insurance rates would prevent poor people from living near the ocean, thus when hurricanes hit, it will only be rich people who would be affected, and they'll have the resources to take care of themselves.

I do love watching you Yankees bitch about the one time your basements got a little damp when a weak category 2 hit your shitty little beach town.

>steal bottled water
Or Nikes and blunts, right muh nigga?

People do nice things for each other, but then again i guess in a naturalistic communist country that could not be counted on.

They did act like little bitches over a minor flood. lol fuckimg Bruce Springsteen had to have a "relief concert" because New Yorker's socks got wet.

Best Buy doesn't sell water, what dem niggaz doing there then

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>cities have to fend for themselves in disasters
>creates motivation for cities to maintain state of the art infrastructure
>competition for safest cities spurs economic growth
>contracting grows significantly, far more money is spent locally
>more money means more jobs, better wages, more robust economy
>significant amounts of taxpayer money saved due to preventative measures taken at the local level, further strengthening the national economy

And the only downside is that you have a LOT of dead people. Millions of dead people. But fuck em, late capitalism is here to stay!

They'd work like ambulances, which you have to play for.

It can be done humanely. Don't be such a downer.

Cajun Navy.
They've increased their individual credibility. This can be leveraged socially (for political points) or economically (patriotic. Display images in their place of biz).
So yea, I think the free market is working just fine.

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In a communist country, a flood is just helping wash away more mouths to feed.

Congrats Anatoly, you get a whole loaf of bread this week!

Only socialism can stop tornadoes.

Socialism is a natural disaster.

>The Federal Emergency Management Agency was heavily criticized in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, primarily for its slow response and inability to coordinate its efforts with other federal agencies relief organizations. Chicago Mayor Richard Daley (D) said of the slow Federal response, "I was shocked. We are ready to provide considerably more help than they have requested. We are just waiting for the call. I don't want to sit here and all of a sudden we are all going to be political. Just get it done."

>FEMA was accused of deliberately slowing things down, in an effort to ensure that all assistance and relief workers were coordinated properly. For example, Michael D. Brown, the head of FEMA, on August 29, urged all fire and emergency services departments not to respond to counties and states affected by Hurricane Katrina without being requested and lawfully dispatched by state and local authorities under mutual aid agreements and the Emergency Management Assistance Compact.

holy shit for americans national healthcare or responding to disasters is communism...

You're the one making the claim, the burden of proof falls on you.

>FEMA also interfered in the Astor Hotel's' plans to hire 10 buses to carry approximately 500 guests to higher ground. Federal officials commandeered the buses, and told the guests to join thousands of other evacuees at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center. In other instances of FEMA asserting its authority to only ultimately make things worse, FEMA officials turned away three Wal-Mart trailer trucks loaded with water, prevented the Coast Guard from delivering 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel, and on Saturday they cut the Jefferson Parish emergency communications line, leading the sheriff to restore it and post armed guards to protect it from FEMA. The Wal-Mart delivery had actually been turned away a week earlier, on Sunday, August 28, before the hurricane struck. A caravan of 13 Wal-Mart tractor trailers was reported in New Orleans by September 1. Additionally, more than 50 civilian aircraft responding to separate requests for evacuations from hospitals and other agencies swarmed to the area a day after Katrina hit, but FEMA blocked their efforts. Aircraft operators complained that FEMA waved off a number of evacuation attempts, saying the rescuers were not authorized. "Many planes and helicopters simply sat idle," said Thomas Judge, president of the Assn. of Air Medical Services.

>It was also reported that FEMA replaced the hospital identification bracelets on some patients being evacuated or transferred with FEMA ID bracelets, causing hospital personnel to lose track of their patients. One hospital CEO stated that three months after the storm, the hospital staff still could not locate some of their patients who had been evacuated.

I don't need to. The superior actions of the market speaks for itself.

>Senator Mary Landrieu (D-Louisiana), was particularly critical of FEMA's efforts in a statement: "[T]he U.S. Forest Service had water-tanker aircraft available to help douse the fires raging on our riverfront, but FEMA has yet to accept the aid. When Amtrak offered trains to evacuate significant numbers of victims—far more efficiently than buses—FEMA again dragged its feet. Offers of medicine, communications equipment and other desperately needed items continue to flow in, only to be ignored by the agency. But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast—black and white, rich and poor, young and old—deserve far better from their national government." However, Landrieu's overflight was of the end of the single-lane roadway being built toward the breach. The "single, lonely piece of equipment" was one power shovel, a bulldozer, and two dump trucks. Video did not show the work area a few hundred feet away at the start of the roadway. USACE photos show a variety of equipment at that site the following day.

>holy shit for leftist not responding to disasters is capitalism...
This is just as retarded fyi

>In a September 15, 2005 New York Times opinion column about the privately owned Methodist Hospital in New Orleans, Bob Herbert wrote, "Incredibly, when the out-of-state corporate owners of the hospital responded to the flooding by sending emergency relief supplies, they were confiscated at the airport by FEMA."

>A September 16, 2005 CNN article about Chalmette Medical Center stated, "Doctors eager to help sick and injured evacuees were handed mops by federal officials who expressed concern about legal liability... And so they mopped, while people died around them."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

This is your government in action.
They truly are that incompetent

>socialism=government
>no socialism=no government

people who are literally retarded, everyone

Socialist safety nets like FEMA and federal relief funds can work alongside the free market everyday commerce.

which is why we're the richest country in the world, and you're a literally where

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We Northerns love when you southern pansies get an inch of snow and have to call a state of emergency because popeyes chicken closes down. Sure are a bunch of bitches.

>t. strawman

99% of people that advocate for a free market would also say that a state guard/police force/firemen are one of the few necessary public expenditures. These are the people doing the heavy lifting in Texas right now.

Also, the public reaction has been entirely free market. People from all over the United States are voluntarily donating money/resources to help Texans in need. The outpouring of public support has been incredible. And the fact that it is entirely voluntary mean it is by definition not socialist.

In other words, go fuck yourself. If this storm hit in one of your socialist paradises like Venezuela we would all be reading headlines about the 10's of thousands of people who all died (equally, of course).

>those videos of cars skidding with an inch of snow on the grouns

Guess I'm a 1%er