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"Indian Paganism: The Last Living Expression of Aryan Beauty" - Savitri Devi, A Warning to the Hindus

cincinnatitemple.com/articles/HinduIndianNationalism1939.pdf

>What is Hinduism?

Hinduism is the oldest organized religion in the world. It is the Sanatana Dharma, the Eternal Law. It has no known origin and no founders - it is a synthesis of various Indian cultures and practices from as early as 4000 BCE.

Hinduism differs from Christianity and other Abrahamic religions in that it does not have:

>A single founder,
>A specific theological system,
>A single concept of deity,
>A single holy text,
>A single system of morality,
>A central religious authority,
>The concept of a prophet.

Hinduism is neither polytheistic, monotheistic, trinitarian or henotheistic, yet it is all at the same time.

The development of Hinduism was influenced by many invasions over thousands of years. The major influences occurred when nomadic "Aryan" Indo-European tribes invaded Northern India from the steppes of Russia and Central Asia. They brought with them their religion of Vedism. These beliefs mingled with the more advanced, indigenous Indian native beliefs, often called the "Indus valley culture."

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga
archive.org/stream/reneguenon/1921 - Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines #page/n1/mode/1up
bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html
archive.org/details/TheBhagavadGitaByCRajagopalachari
hinduwebsite.com/upanishadindex.asp
sacred-texts.com/hin/
gita-society.com/section3/mahabharata.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiHrferzdbSAhXIQ48KHXpjBfIQFggnMAA&usg=AFQjCNEVJFySM166gELxlwp_gULUgD7yjw&sig2=KRg3OHxt-7NTN7O0TaIkYw
youtu.be/rAM9x_GF9VY
m.imgur.com/hWL2AyO
youtube.com/watch?v=kC-s2xmFhQ8
youtube.com/watch?v=A935bq8Vtko
youtube.com/watch?v=IeLHtFJBdmM
rigveda.us/b1/undediphered.pdf
ibtimes.com/heinrich-himmler-nazi-hindu-214444
mic.com/articles/120411/how-hitler-s-mein-kampf-became-a-bestseller-in-india#.jgVB9FHmT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer#Influences
mic
archive.is/282AP
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

>Political Significance of Hinduism in this Age

All the decadence of the world today has been predicted by Hinduism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga

Prophesied events during a Kali Yuga

>Rulers will become unreasonable: they will levy taxes unfairly.
>Rulers will no longer see it as their duty to promote spirituality, or to protect their subjects: they will become a danger to the world.
>People will start migrating, seeking countries where wheat and barley form the staple food source.
>At the end of Kali-yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respectable gentlemen of the three higher varnas [temperament] and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the supreme chastiser.

Kali Yuga with regard to human relationships

>Avarice and wrath will be common. Humans will openly display animosity towards each other. Ignorance of dharma will occur.
>People will have thoughts of murder with no justification and will see nothing wrong in that.
>Lust will be viewed as socially acceptable and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life.
>Sin will increase exponentially, while virtue will fade and cease to flourish.
>People will take vows and break them soon after.
>People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs.
>Teachers will no longer be respected and their students will attempt to injure them. Their teachings will be insulted, and followers of Kama(lust) will wrest control of the mind from all human beings.

Resources
>introduction to Hinduism for westerners
archive.org/stream/reneguenon/1921 - Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines #page/n1/mode/1up


>Bhagavad Gita
bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html

archive.org/details/TheBhagavadGitaByCRajagopalachari
>Upanishads
hinduwebsite.com/upanishadindex.asp

>Vedas
sacred-texts.com/hin/

>MAHABHARATA by C Rajagopalachari
gita-society.com/section3/mahabharata.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiHrferzdbSAhXIQ48KHXpjBfIQFggnMAA&usg=AFQjCNEVJFySM166gELxlwp_gULUgD7yjw&sig2=KRg3OHxt-7NTN7O0TaIkYw

>Ramayan Anime
youtu.be/rAM9x_GF9VY

Stop descerating Shankar Bhagwan with that half-baller

No one gaf about your third world shit hole. Sorry, but Sage.

>being this new
he gassed them jews too,didnt he ?

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How do I convert?

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You cannot, you can follow the book at most and conversion is immaterial everyone follows the eternal law

Can I just say I'm an Hindu then?

I want an excuse to wear swastikas

>mfw Finns can fly a swastika with impunity

Yes you certainly can, just get the hindu swastikas

Based Mongolians

Isn't that your airforce flag, I am quite interested in the Finns some Finnish anons have pointed out to me that hindu and old Finnish gods have a lot of similarities

Story?

m.imgur.com/hWL2AyO

Former Hindu here. Let me redpill you.

>The most poorly defined and poorly documented "religion" ever
>Hindu used to be a geographic descriptor. Changed into a religious identity as a result of Muslim invasions. So practically, is not older than Islam.
>Age of religion is based on the oldest signs of civilisation found in the region, despite not know what said civilisation actually believed in.
>Religious texts undecipherable due to the fact that Sanskrit was a dead language and was "restored"
>Other religions at the time DID exist, like Jainism, Buddhism, so Hinduism wasn't misunderstood. It just didn't exist.
>As a result of all of the above, modern Pajeets are making things up as they go along.

P O O

fucking retard, Hinduism is not a religion and never will be. it is a way of thinking of enlightenment. now kys street shitter.

>Hinduism is neither polytheistic, monotheistic, trinitarian or henotheistic, yet it is all at the same time.
That is you guys have no fucking idea of what your doing so you claim you're everything so no one can say shit about you.

>not reading the op
>rig Vedas mention accurate geographic and astronomical proofs of the age
>sanskrit is a dead language while millions of Hindus recite the texts daily in sanskrit

lol idiot you do realize all major religions came from hinduism, right?

I can already tell you live east of punjab from reading this
>not reading the op
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based pajeets will free us from moksha and lead us to the atman or brahma or whatever it's called

what are rig vedas
what is ramayana

gtfo pajeet wannabe

Atleast read the op, well provid you with moksha

>came from Hinduism
Sure pajeet. Since there's a 1000 or so gods in India I'm sure you can wring out similarities somehow.

calling Hitler an avatar is about as bad of Karma as spitting in Krisna's face, you fucking turd.

stop.

>muh gods
Why do cut dicks have the same arguments, is their a other religions 101 in the madarsas

>no mention of Hitler being an avatar in the thread

ugh... moksa is the freedom retard. its samsara you get liberated from you fucking swine.

the retardation is strong with you

shut up retard, you dishonour ur ancestors and now worship a kike. nice job.

might want to actually learn something about the system before wearing swastikas given this is part of the reason Hitler the NOTAVATAR failed so spectacularly in his mission (an Avatara would NOT have failed)

we'll let people join the dictatorship with honour based on how many of those in the rival dictatorship they kill :)

it's actually USA no one would give a shit about were your not being propped up by your kike masters petrodollar supremacy, you fucking child with an infinite inferiority complex.

Pajeets will claim they invented everything. Bring any counter arguement and their brains go into superpooper mode.

the pic THE FUCKING PIC imbecile

all knowledge does come from the Vedas. the (((AIT))) is 100% kike bullshit that you are too retarded not to reject. some of you are so retarded as to tell me huwhites gave Indians the Vedas.... fuckin retard. being reincarnated as a pig is too good for you you fucking nincompoop.

Still no arguments or any contributions to the thread, as is the case with your religion, remove your flag Pierre khan
>shiv had avatars

>what are rig vedas

I actually do want to know this. Wtf is Rig Vedas?

Most of it is indecipherable, doesn't make sense, and requires commentary.
Oldest manuscript is dated 1400AD, because apparently it was passed down orally for 1000s of years LOL.
Researchers try to date the text by making sense of the content, which by their own admission is nonsensical for the most part, so they try to date it using the attached commentary.
They also attempted to date it by dating the "indo-arayn" language which they is the dead version of Sanskrit. Somehow they manage to translate something from a dead language.

Do read about it Pajeet. It makes no fucking sense. Hinduism is embarrassing.

SHOW BOB AND OPEN VAGANE

The Mittani Indo-Aryan language is considered older than Vedic or Avestan because it has aika instead of eka. Vedic is supposed to to have merged ai to e and hence is considered younger. But if you take the word for seven in Mittani - satta, it is considered to be much later than Vedic. So some folks believe that this dating based on selectively chosen words cannot be trusted fully.

If you look at the Avestan and Vedic language you see that 'h' in one language has been renamed as 's' in another. There are people like Rajesh Kochchar and Romila Thapar who believe that the Vedic people migrated from the Haraxvati (Saraswati) region in Afghanistan and not the mythical Saraswati flowing underground through Rajasthan. It seems this replacing 's' with 'h' is prevalent in some parts of Rajasthan and Assam even today. One point of view is that it is not possible to find which one came first based on language traits.
The seventh mandala of the Rigveda records the vernal equinox in Mrigashira Constellation pointing to a date around 4000 BCE - a fact noted by Jacobi and Tilak.
Again several Shulba Sūtrās declare that a pole star is visible. Since a visible pole star occurs only at certain epochs, such a citation gives a normal range of dates for that event. The astronomical dates put the dates before 4000BC.

That puts us at at least 6017 year ago.

The likely authors of the Vedas are the Haarpans

Bhagwan Singh, an avid writer on the Indus Valley civilisation, sees the entire Harappan ecology in the Rig Veda. He chides those who have been "using both their brains and chair to save the Vedic Aryans from the Harappan authorship". Now we have a continuous history of the Indian continent from 7000 BC.

>Haarpans finds.

Take Mehrgarh in Balochistan as an example. This site is clearly 9,500 years old. New carbon-dating technology has suggested a 12,000-10,000 year timeline for Mehrgarh. Did Mehrgarh and Mohenjo Daro come after Rakhigarhi? Surely no one is going to buy such an assumption in a hurry.

Harappa itself is an early period find, that being 3,000 BCE or 5,000 years plus old. The other finds in Pakistan, and more recently in Afghanistan, point to a stable agro-based settlement people 4,500 BCE or 6,500 years ago.
Hence we arrive at the date of around 10,000 years.

Xd

This is exactly how Pajeet historians operate. Assumption after assumption with an embarrassing amount of guesswork.

You mention Indus valley and Mehrgarh because they are the oldest examples of civilisation in Asia, yet their languages and texts are indecipherable and no human remains have ever been found. Some fucking how, you manage to create links with IVC to modern hinduism and India....literally what the fuck is going on in your brain?

Do you even realise that no Hindu text in existence is older than 700 years? Everything else is based on assumption.

Can you back this up or prove it at least you dumb currynigger?

What do pajeets think about Israel?

>discredit published historians
Ok Rasheed, explain the temples that still exists in India, let's put a stop to your muh language debate, I'll agree we don't know what language the harrapans spoke but they have similar deities, lets completely ignore that what about the sanskrit in the Vedas how exactly is it unknown or requires commentary, are we going to argue sanskrit is 700 years old your people tried but we still have immense archeological and a written proof, make an argument lad

Hindu zionist is a thing look it up, as for the general panjeet they think you are another victim of mudslimes

1. How do you explain the fact that india is both known for its philosophers and rich culture but also for beeing a bit of shithole?

2. Is the cast system and reincarnation corelated? if so were the lower cast people scum in previous life?

3. how do you justify reincarnation?

I read a lot in the news that you could fuck the pakis up if they mess with you. Also a lot of israelis go to India to travel many people here like you guys.

The shit hole part is recent history we were quite fine before the anglos arrived with (((civilisation))).

>2
Yes and they probably didn't follow their dharma
>3
Well westerners pay too much heed to it for us it's a part of life no justification required, you could argue against it I suppose
I Fugged one of your idf girls in kasol although I was young and not particularly woke on real life Jews till then I was only aware of them as people from mein Kampf

and Hitler WASN'T ONE OF THEM. BABOON.

Topkek, how many avatar did shiv have
Inb4 hanuman

It's a joke nair man which you are talking way too seriously

didnt they bring technological advancements which you missed because of the mughals though?

as a hellenist i too believe in reincarnation, but it only extends to family members. does reincarnation happen only from one human to another?

How are christians and muslims viewed in your country?

Unless your point of view implies that just after the start of the industrial revolution a country 9000+km away would've gotten the tech unless if was for the mughals, then yes they did bring us 'technology' a people which knew the circumference of the earth while the Europeans still believed in a flat earth.

Reincarnation happens between all life form

>Christians and Muslim
Low caste scum who converted

Muslims are not thought of well in India, especially considering the history of Pakistan, they're not to fond of Sudanese people either, or really Africans in general.

fair enough

have a lot of respect for india. hopefully europe will return to its pagan roots one day

>Low caste scum who converted
amazing

as far as i have heard the history goes even further back

what have africans done in india?

Mfw African are thrashed in the middle of the street on live TV

Firstly they are easy to identify and secondly they sell drugs to kids which is looked down in society so they have an image of being drug peddlers

Yea, according to some people they're "cannibals", "rape children" then eat the children, it's fucking ridiculous the extent in which people in India will go to demonize Africans.

No its primarily selling drugs and yes people do fear they'll steal kids, you can be an African student here and no one will do anything, it really makes me think

You guys are allright. Respect unto my Hindi Sup Forumstards. Bhagavad Gita Chapter 11 is based as fuck.

Your leader lost the war

No humanity lost the war, imbecile

Absolutely this!

youtube.com/watch?v=kC-s2xmFhQ8

Hope everyone in this thread realizes fascism/national socialism is the return to sanatana dharma (natural law) after centuries under semitic, Jewish non-European monotheism.

How do followers of sanatana dharma in India feel about Europeans returning to ancestral paganism and nationalism?

youtube.com/watch?v=A935bq8Vtko
youtube.com/watch?v=IeLHtFJBdmM

Pastor Anderson has better videos

Well user, I believe national socialism is derived from the Vedas.
>European returning to...
I see the trend only on this board not in real life but most of the people are unaffected by the foreign world

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These vids were made based on a book by an Indian physicist from Kerala.

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Yes Jewish religion always want credit for everything it ain't new lad, ask him what the mauryan empire

Did you refute any of claims about the iconography? or his interpretation of the Upanishads?

>Former Hindu here
>not older than Islam
Found the mudslim.
Piss off Jamal.

Are there stereotypes for those who worship different gods such as Shiva, Vishnu, Devi, Ganesha, Surya and other common forms of the personal god.

>aum is Christian
How do I take this video or any of its contents seriously, what about temples that are older than Christianity, they are all fakes? I provided you with linguistic and astronomical proof about the Vedas, now you need to provide me with records that show Jesus existed

Not really but it is said you gain the Characteristics of the God who you worship

>similar deities

Without any translated texts or known history, how the fuck can you determine this? Because the statue looks like it's meditating? LOL

This is what happens when you turn a geographic descriptor like Hindu into a vague religious identity. It allows you make any number of claims and make things up as you go along.

Not older than islam had me laughing. This guy is retarded.

Basically any philosophy you believe is your religion.

People are waking up like a motherfucker god damn!

We ignored that part Rasheed I don't claim anywhere harrapans were hindu I am still waiting for an argument with historic claims and citation

Mleccha durvidhi what else for this usffering parasite?

>Pajeet is upset

The oldest known rigveda manuscript is from 1000 AD. This is a fact.

I generally laugh at the 6000 year old claim. It's a sanitized version meant for western audiences, because according to the same rig vedas, Hinduism is actually 1.6 million years old, or a trillion years old depending on which commentary you are reading.

So why do you settle for 6000 years old when you could claim to be millions or trillions years old?

Reminder ancient Vedic and India was founded by Aryan Nordics conquering the local Dravidians, bred with them thus creating the caste system.

>Mleccha
Does this word just mean someone lower than an untouchable? I remember reading that Swami Vivekananda said India was doomed the day it invented this word.

>published historian
>Rasheed
Hmmm, I am claiming 10,000 years faggot the purans say its billions of years old, you still haven't quoted a single source

According to Muslims, their religion is a continuation of all Abrahamic religions, so why not just take their word for it and make Islam 2400 years old? We dont, because we dont need to subscribe to their version and we go by the actual age of their books.

>The oldest known rigveda manuscript
>While written manuscripts were used for teaching in medieval times, they were written on birch bark or palm leaves, which decompose and therefore were routinely copied over the generations to help preserve the text.

Fuck off mate. This is not an official debate. You can google any of my statements. I am not making them up. I have no need.

You forgot Tibet and Central Asia since there is evidence of equally vague pagan religions that Hindus can claim and reinvent for their imaginary past.

>age of the book is age of the religion
Yes I made a post from an acclaimed historians book, they uniformly agree its atleast 6k years old some of them believe it's 10k years old
You fuckin retard this isn't your madarsa, point out where the accepted western historical narrative deviates from the op and I'll change it, read beyond what you are taught in school and what your parents tell you, I am still saying quote a source or fuck off

rigveda.us/b1/undediphered.pdf

Most religions come from proto Indo-European polytheism, so does Hinduism, is more correct.

>western historical narrative deviates

LOL. dont kid yourself. This is Pajeet historical narrative. No westerner has ever concluded anything nice about the vedas.

Here. Contains Pajeet spin but highlights the "problem"
rigveda.us/b1/undediphered.pdf

Pajeets are wewuzzing and rewriting history to claim that they are still following the original Indo-European polytheism

i am India american an im white aryan becase hindu aryan so we are actuali white too bros

Tibetan Buddism is not Indian now, ok
It says western cannot interpret the poems and they are too vague for them, so it's all wrong brilliant argument
Modern History Heinrich Himmler and the SS Ahnenerbe ibtimes.com/heinrich-himmler-nazi-hindu-214444 Mein Kampf a bestseller in India mic.com/articles/120411/how-hitler-s-mein-kampf-became-a-bestseller-in-india#.jgVB9FHmT Arthur Schopenhauer on the Vedas en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer#Influences >If the reader has also received the benefit of the Vedas, the access to which by means of the Upanishads is in my eyes the greatest privilege which this still young century (1818) may claim before all previous centuries, if then the reader, I say, has received his initiation in primeval Indian wisdom, and received it with an open heart, he will be prepared in the very best way for hearing what I have to tell him. It will not sound to him strange, as to many others, much less disagreeable; for I might, if it did not sound conceited, contend that every one of the detached statements which constitute the Upanishads, may be deduced as a necessary result from the fundamental thoughts which I have to enunciate, though those deductions themselves are by no means to be found there.

Alternatively
>mic com/articles/120411/how-hitler-s-mein-kampf-became-a-bestseller-in-india#.jgVB9FHmT
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