Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Political ideology of the lowest common denominator.
>I'm poor so everybody has to be poor
Camden Smith
Proponents of capitalism argue that the real living standards of those on low pay are better raised by allowing the whole economy to grow. As it grows, those at the bottom of the social heap will benefit from wealth that ‘trickles down’ from the top. The falsity of this argument can be seen by looking at the figures. The long term rate of growth of the UK economy is 2.5 percent per annum(1993).
How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime. With socialism the employee can have her cake and eat it too. She gets a once and for all rise in income through redistribution, but economic growth does not stop, so she will continue to enjoy rising earnings year by year.
Leo Brooks
Sure thing faggot
Angel Ward
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Jace Ross
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Austin Taylor
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Thomas Cooper
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Jayden Allen
nys, filth
Bentley Flores
derailing
Caleb Kelly
Keep trying shill, you can't stop the Revolution
Brandon Young
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Nathan James
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Ayden Moore
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Ryder Robinson
Chile is a first world country thanks to capitalism, while Venezuela starves.
Zachary Robinson
lefty Sup Forums can you debunk the claims that the original soviet union (leninist)before stalins great purge where jewish controlled?
Noah Foster
Not an argument
Jose Rivera
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Jayden Diaz
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Matthew Cook
>Venezuela starves. 2) Venezuela's economic troubles have very little to do with socialism. It's roots can be traced to the Venezuelan banking crisis of 1994 under then president Rafael Caldera, when 17 out of Venezuela's 49 commercial banks failed and had to be taken over by the government (sound familiar?). The crisis happened because oil (which Venezuela kinda lives & dies by) prices fell. Up to 31% of Venezuela's GDP was spent on the bailout, & the economy got completely fucked because of it. Venezuela's socialist policies came later under president Hugo Chavez to help combat this, but by then there was only so much that could be done. Here's a contemporary article: nytimes.com/1994/05/16/us/failure-of-high-flying-banks-shakes-venezuelan-economy.html?pagewanted=all
Wow,Venezuela is so socialist that 70% of it's economy is privately owned!But muuuh socialism. The Venezuela argument is stupid for two reasons. The reason the economy collapsed is because of the US and Saudi Arabia's joint action to flood the market with cheap oil. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar
LMFAOO. No, you fucking Troglodyte knuckledragging nigger, Chile's economy was getting doing terrible because of Nixon's deliberate efforts to sabotage it. They did this by paying truckers (a hugely important industry in Chile) to go on strike, among other things. The CIA has even admitted this.
1) A note about Pinochet: After taking power, Pinochet introduced free-market policies envisioned by the "Chicago Boys" a group of laisez-faire Chilean economists educated in America. These policies (which included privatizing the fucking fire department) were so disastrous, that Pinochet himself fired them. In fact, prior to Pinochet, under democratic socialist president Salvador Allende, Chile had the best health care & education in South America and a strong middle class. theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/mar/03/chile-earthquake
Robert Bell
If communism is so great, why don't you move to North Korea?
William James
Venezuela is not a true Communist country.
Robert Phillips
>I think it is time for you to go back to 8 chan
no you moron i'm asking you and since you have the commie flag i'm assuming your a washed up dreg from lefty Sup Forums
Ethan Watson
>Wow,Venezuela is so socialist that 70% of it's economy is privately owned!But muuuh socialism.
How come you don't move to a communist country? What is stopping you?
Nathan Howard
"Not true communism"
True communism can't exist.
Julian Cruz
>Venezuela is not a true Communist country.
its socialist lol user is being a disshonest faggot.
>If communism is so great, why don't you move to North Korea?
if capitalism is so great why dont you move to south africa or most african shitholes?
Jeremiah Cruz
>grrrr I hate my boss because he makes more money than me grrrr
Michael Torres
I'm waiting for an answer...why are you still living in the west? How come you don't move?
Owen Thompson
>i like being raped by bankers aka the great depresion and the 2008 wall street crash.
Joseph Rogers
You started this thread, and yet you refuse to move. I like where I live, obviously you don't. Why are you not moving?
Liam Kelly
The Revolution needs to go global
Eli Wood
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Samuel Morgan
>((((((((bankers))))))))))
Jeremiah Allen
Remember that time we found the spics Facebook page. He's a fat unemployed blob body. Disgusting.
Jackson Fisher
The Revolution needs to go global. No rest until then.
Daniel Williams
>I'm waiting for an answer...why are you still living in the west? How come you don't move?
why dont you move to any other capitalist 3 world country lad? i sure heard its a utopia.
>You started this thread
check the id you fucking mong I'M NOT OP.
Logan Gutierrez
Still waiting for an answer? What's the matter faggot, can't make an argument for why you don't move?
Hunter Lewis
please continue
Easton Bailey
>central banking is capitalist umm no sweetie
Kayden Richardson
>The Revolution needs to go global. No rest until then.
take a break trosky you know what happened the last time you sead that? hint hint ICEPICKED.
Henry Miller
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Daniel Edwards
>that isnt treu capitalismXDXD
Dominic Young
That is good quality pasta
Sebastian Reyes
don't bother with these idiots you can provide a hundred thousands sources, and they'll still just respond with vapid empty memes and dull phrases like "MUH REEL GOMMUNIZM"
Brody Smith
>If everyone is starving, then we are all equal!
Parker Cooper
no it's jewish gloablism
Ian Morgan
+1 to the bump limit
Bentley Brooks
Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4 Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :-DDdd
Kayden Brown
This will never happen. Again, why don't you move to Cuba? They have free health care, free college, and everyone has a job. If you move to a communist country, you will not have to pay back your substantial student loans. Why are you not moving?
Lucas Parker
We have a nice comfy place for your kind, but first we need to deal with the porky and fascist scum
Brody Howard
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Benjamin Wood
>>((((((((bankers))))))))))
we both have the same enimies ancap ancom aliance when?
>it's jewish gloablism
>not tru capitalismXDXD
lmfao dude keep saying it might become treu one day.
you might talk some sense into them someday.
Dominic Cruz
This is not an answer to my question. Its obvious you refuse to answer, because you can't answer. Again...why are you not moving?
Andrew Garcia
>admits to liking the idea of killing political enemies >mentions fascists as your enemy makes me think
Asher Phillips
North Korea hasn't been a communist country since the death of Kim Il Sung. And surprise surprise, while Kim Il Sung ruled, North Korea was superior to South Korea in development and standard of life.
It was only after Kim Jong Il took over that the DPRK degenerated from a socialist state into a racial fascist state. And that's the beautiful part - North Korea, your big boogyman is actually a perfect representation of the failures of fascism, so perhaps you should consider moving there.
Dylan Walker
kill porky pls
Nathaniel Morris
>We have a nice comfy place for your kind, but first we need to deal with the porky and fascist scum
lmfao you wherent that tough when stalin was in power huh internationalist faggot cant wait to see you get purged agian.
Ayden Parker
>we both have the same enimies ancap ancom aliance when? capitalists and communies working together to defeat the eternal jew
you know the jews created communism right?
Adam Cooper
How fucking hypocrite can you get
Ethan Peterson
To be honest, most communist countries weren't originally rich countries that turned into third world disasters. They were usually very poor and unequal countries that were turned into still poor but more developed countries. bumping with booty
Lucas Ross
No you don't, and you have little support. Again, why don't you move? You can't answer the fucking question can you?
Kevin Hughes
>you know the jews created communism right?
sweetie.. about that..
stalin was stalin becuase nobody ruled him he was the top dog and purged who ever was a threat to his power even jews where scared of his ruthlessnes (great purge) he had no intrest in spreading "communism" only his own power. infact most of the communist party hated Stalin's guts and where scared shitless by him they started "De-Stalinization" the second he passed away.
Yagoda was executed by Stalin during the great purge. and trotsky was assasinated ordered by stalin. Like many Soviet NKVD officers who conducted political repression, Yagoda himself became ultimately a victim of the Purge. He was demoted from the directorship of the NKVD in favor of Nikolai Yezhov in 1936 and arrested in 1937. Charged with the crimes of wrecking, espionage, Trotskyism and conspiracy, Yagoda was a defendant at the Trial of the Twenty-One, the last of the major Soviet show trials of the 1930s. Following his confession at the trial, Yagoda was found guilty and shot. lmfao the kikes had it pretty bad in russia lad. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_pogroms_in_the_Russian_Empire en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors'_plot
Parker Turner
Just imagine what could be accomplished if a first world, rich and unequal country adopted communism.
Mason Wood
Not an argument or answer. Again, why are you not moving to Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea?
Jaxson Long
also the menchivics where the real kikes.
Not less interesting is the composition of the congress from the standpoint of nationalities. Statistics showed that the majority of the Menshevik faction consists of Jews—and this of course without counting the Bundists—after which came Georgians and then Russians. On the other hand, the overwhelming majority of the Bolshevik faction consists of Russians, after which come Jews—not counting of course the Poles and Letts—and then Georgians, etc. For this reason one of the Bolsheviks observed in jest (it seems Comrade Aleksinsky) that the Mensheviks are a Jewish faction and the Bolsheviks a genuine Russian faction, so it would not be a bad idea for us Bolsheviks to arrange a small pogrom in the party.
Charles Flores
> this whole thread kys OP
Christian Parker
back to leftypol you go
Aiden Campbell
>Venezuela
venuzeula is literaly not communist you dumb faggot its socialist and you FUCKED THEM over with the petrodollar.
Brayden Howard
They are fully aware Cuba and Venezuela are fucking shitholes nobody with a brain wants to be in.
Marxists are the biggest fucking self-aware retards the world has ever seen and they don't even try to hide their mental idiocity. Communism is a kike joke to destroy western civilization, it always has. It's inheritely made to fail and kill everyone.
Jack Williams
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Lucas Flores
Hey commies. Fuck you. You ruined are country for about 50 years, and we still suffer from this shitty ideology. You never lived in a country that suffered from the cancer known as communism. Fuck you and all retards that believe in this bullshit.
Liam Carter
Still waiting an answer....why are you still here? Why are you not moving? Trying to answer that North Korea is not a communist nation is absurd. Why are you not moving?
Ryan Evans
>Cuba cuba was fucked becuase the inbargo and trade sanctions you put on THEM faggot.
Cooper Ortiz
Communists deserve nothing but death, My grandfather told all kinds of interesting stories about dead Russians.
youtube.com/watch?v=VvDBKPADpT8 Suojeluskunnat Suomenmaassa järjestystä vaatii, kaikki ryssät maasta pois ja alas punakaarti.
Hei! Saksanniemi, Jääkärijoukko, Lapuan ja Härmän joukko, Vöyri, Kauhava ja muut...
Jääkäreillä mukanaan on menestys ja onni, meikäläisten vyöllä riippuu saksalainen pommi.
Hei! Saksanniemi, Jääkärijoukko, Lapuan ja Härmän joukko, Vöyri, Kauhava ja muut...
Pikkuryssät Pietarissa näkee pahaa unta, Venäjä on rajamaa ja Suomi valtakunta.
Hei! Saksanniemi, Jääkärijoukko, Lapuan ja Härmän joukko, Vöyri, Kauhava ja muut...
Eespäin veikot, pelko pois ja rivakasti tahti, suojeluskunnat Suomenmaan on vapauden vahti.
Hei! Saksanniemi, Jääkärijoukko, Lapuan ja Härmän joukko, Vöyri, Kauhava ja muut...
Leo Myers
North Korea has more in common with national socialism than communism, why don't the nazis move there
Henry Rivera
>idb4 cuba capitalist was great.
3) Pre-revolution Cuba is a great example of capitalism? what? Okay, first of all, the statement "Cuba before the revolution had one of the highest per-capita incomes in Latin America" doesn't mean much.The average per-capita income in all of Cuba—including upper-class Havana and Santiago de Cuba—was six dollars a week. In addition to all the corruption & despotism associated with the Batista regime, here are some other lovely little facts about capitalism in Cuba: * Only 4% of Cubans had meat in their diets. *Under 3% had eggs. * Only 1% had fish - ON A FUCKING ISLAND!!!! * Only 11% had milk. * Only 4% had bread. * 64% had no toilets. * Only 2% had indoor toilets. * Only 3% had running water. nybooks.com/articles/1966/04/28/cuban-revolution-2/
Tyler Kelly
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Isaiah Foster
South Africa was much better before Mandela communist party take government. Now it's fucked and ran by niggers. Like most African states the shit is run by basically modern war lords over a nigger dumb population.
Hunter Powell
Every commie I have met is either a privilaged faggot or some dumb leaf. Nobody with a brain supports this murderous ideology.
Mason Garcia
Another one to proudly show my flag
Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen, nimeltään Kaarina. Perhot kirjosiivet kiertää kilvaten, miss' on hän, Kaarina. Hällä huuli kun on hunajaa, tuoksu kummustansa tulvahtaa. Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen, nimeltään Kaarina.
Siellä jossain tiedän sievän tyttösen, nimeltään Kaarina. Mua hän muistelee tuo hellyys herttainen, aartehein, Kaarina. Voi kun luonto säihkyy väreissään, hälle lennätän mä laulun tän. Kankahalla kasvaa kaunis kukkanen, nimeltään Kaarina
Kukka kaunis myös on kammarissa mun, nimeltään Kaarina. Aamunkoittehesta päivän laskuhun, katsoo mua, Kaarina. On kuin kuulisin sen kuiskaavan, pikku morsiantas muistathan, Suahan täällä jossain itkee tyttönen, nimeltään Kaarina. youtube.com/watch?v=_ONm72JG2_o
Jonathan Rogers
but, but, but IT WASN'T A REAL COMMUNISM
starts in....
Jayden Martinez
AYYYYYY
Leo Martinez
I wish you all the most painful death that is possible retards
>supporting an ideology made by braindead alcoholics
Michael Stewart
Yes, they are, and so is North Korea and Cuba. Again, why are you not moving? Why are you not in one of those countries helping them to be true socialists? Why are you still living in the west? Are you afraid of moving? Will daddy cut you out of the trust fund? Why have you not moved yet?
Christian Parker
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Eli Brooks
>Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism. >Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society. >Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies: >>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. >gommies.gom/fug/ >gommies.gom/starve/ >GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here: >gommies.gom/ohfugme/ >It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving. >Resources: >gommies.gom/ohshid/ >gommies.gom/1984/ >gommies.gom/guck/ >gommies.gom/probaganda/ >gommies.gom/XDDDD/ >gommies.gom/wheresfood/ >gommies.gom/benis/ >_________________________________ >Da sdages of gommunism. >>Sdage one >Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all. >>Sdade two >Withering >All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours. >>Sdage three >Gommunism. >No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis. >>Sdage four >Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD I came here for this.
Colton Wood
Actually its made by a jew
Adrian Nguyen
HOL UUUUUUP
William Flores
>implying that isn't the same demographic as Sup Forums
Tyler Adams
Good luck trying to talk about Communism on pol. This place is overrun with ultra-capitalists and alt-right people. Just get on another website and you may find a better audience
Alexander Cox
I love this picture. Fuck Che.
Austin Jones
>Yes, they are, and so is North Korea and Cuba. Again, why are you not moving?
strawmanning i see?
cuba was fucked becuase the inbargo you put on them and the trade sanctions.
why are you doging my qeustions and citations faggot?
Camden Scott
Yes. This ideology failed every fucking time. It brought misery, starvation and death upon common people. I wish you commies nothing but pain.
