What are Sup Forums's thoughts on stimulants? Are they degenerate or a necessity in the modern world? I was diagnosed for ADD and prescribed a stimulant that I take on occasion.
>inb4 not politically related
I have a theory that stimulants are pushed on Americans in order to make us more likely to be subservient to authority.
They certainly aren't a necessity. Definitely degenerate if you take them without the need.
They are awesome
Vyvanse isn't too bad
I've been a stimulant addict as well as many of my friends. I think it's not something you want to get hooked on.
You posted this to hear someone say they snort aderal and vyvance.
Vyvanse has to be one of the worst of them. But you won't know it at first.
What are the long term effects? Is it true that they can fuck up your kidneys?
I've had a "shorter-leash" and a don't give a fuck attitude ever since being on 20mg adderall.
Kidneys don't matter.
The long term effects are that you aren't yourself anymore and then they start to not work anymore and getting off them is every bit as bad as getting on them. It's basically alcoholism. And if you manage to quit, you're in for hell because you can't ever be yourself again and everything is just shit.
Well I would like to hear someone give their insight. Whether it comes through the form of a story or statistical evidence that's fine with me
They should be available for every one. I always use adderall/concerta for school even though I'm not prescribed
Coffee (caffeine) is one of the best things to include in your diet... just be sure to get either plenty of vitamin D3 (at night), or plenty of sunlight.
...and if you're a real man, you'll drink it black.
I do snort adderall from time to time but i manly use stimulants to boost my grades in school
Vyvanse and concerts made me feel weird mentally. Adderall I was like a god. Was pulling chicks left and right happy confident and interested in school/reading awake alert. Downside is dehydration, if you smoke you'll chain smoke, I think it kills your immune system like coffee and sugar do so you'll have to eat lots of probiotics/kefir. After taking it for a year I had massive anxiety for years while not on it
Do you take adderall on a daily occasion? And have you ever had experience with other stimulants?
No if you are a real man you drink it with milk and cream because you need the protein and calories to be active and build muscle throughout the day.
>snort addies in school
That's where kids go wrong. They fly around like candy in school and it's so easy to score on tests and shit.
Think you're going to keep that up for the rest of your life? No. Your test scores aren't going to mean shit when you have to keep up passing yourself off as something you're not, and now an addict to boot.
they're a necessity if you're ocd and can't rest until you complete a task.
Concerta* but most lawyers or doctors take it. Don't study on it you won't retain information. It's great for working long hours efficiently
I used adderall for about 4 months. Made me more irritable in general, though I am irritable without it.
I hated the way I felt on it even on the smallest therapeutic dose. I exercise a lot and it really killed my desire and ability to do that
Addies are literally meth. Look on the bottle. "amphetamine salts." Of course you feel like superman at first.
Hitler was on them 24/7 so therefor stimulants are redpilled
Stimulants are degenerate. If you eat right and exercise you shouldn't need them.
Benzos are the working mans' drug of choice. Take one at the end of a hard day of work/exercise/productivity and sleep well.
I took a vyvyanse today and cleaned the shit out of my house
Benzos are degenerate.
I've known a few kids who got on that and they were pretty much just in to checking out on life and not caring who knew.
I used to go to my friendly physician for Ritalin whenever I had a big project that I wanted to do. At first it was great because I got a lot done and I felt great doing it. Sometimes you do shitty work, but you're euphoric so you think it's the greatest ever. Then I started using it for fun and realized that I was getting sucked in. After I quit, life was pretty grey for awhile,but I didn't take enough for long enough for it to permanently fuck up my brain's reward system. I quit when I realized I was jerking off for 6 hours straight and popping pills just to chase the euphoria. Approach with caution; can quickly lead to degeneracy.
degenerate do psychs instead
I do remember seeing a .gif of Hitler uncontrollably moving while sitting in a chair but I didn't save it. Do you have it?
Fuck you adderall is amazing
I have never had so much fun staring at the same pussy closeup and rubbing a small floppy nub
Ever get the extended release form of rits? Those were great. You could pop just part of one and cruise your way through.
Oh and i have ADHD too, I just happen to have an addictive personality as well
Shit happens
It's sped up. At normal speed it just looks like he's anxious at a sporting event like anyone else.
It's especially dank because you don't have to worry about keeping extra pills in your pockets and being seen eating them like you're some kind of junkie.
>you aren't yourself anymore
That's not a negative for me. You are not really elaborating the drawbacks very well.
No, I always just got the regular ones. I'd go through a bottle of 60 in about 5 days. Ritalin is dangerous to me. I still think about it some times, which makes me feel like a dick. It really did feel incredible, better than coke or Adderall to me, for whatever reason.
But that doesn't negate that user's claim that Hitler used stimulants
Instant release? The orange footballs? Fuck I love snorting those right to the dome
I never really liked coke either, and the blue pills (adderall) were always inferior. Rits kind of always reminded me a little bit of LSD in terms of how it made you feel like the kind of the world.
I can't believe they shove this shit down the throats of little kids.
That would have been nice. I'd chew them up and my mouth would be so dry, I'd have this white paste all over my lips and people would look at me funny, maybe thinking that I'd been giving blow jobs or something.
stimulants also make you hypersexual. you will waste vast amounts of time watching porn and abusing yourself. it is very degenerate.
workout instead
I have a prescription for ADHD, which I have severely. I was never the type in school to act crazy and how the media likes to portray ADHD kids. The real ADHD kids have their head in the clouds, looking around at all the colorful things in the classroom, their minds spacing out. It's hard to catch if you don't look observe hard enough.
Anyway, I noticed that the Vyvanse really helps, however if I don't take a break from it every week I'll lose my mind by the middle of the second, get real irritable, and lose sleep.
Some times you have to wake up in the gutter to understand yourself. Try Paxil. That'll put you in the gutter but fast.
why?
Adderall is the shit. Took 10mg once a day for 3 months. Got a ton of shit done. Calmed me the fuck down. Stopped when I read it fucks with your brain's grey matter. I miss it, but I need my brain more.
stupid
you get the protein and calories elsewhere with minimal blood/sugar level impact so you don't get type 2 diabetes
Also lost weight and didn't need to sleep. But fuck that, I need my brain. Gotta work on upping my T with some good good and exercise.
I'm currently addicted to adderall kind of makes me feel bad that I can't really function without it
Paxil is a pretty harmless SSRI, i don't see how that would put me in the gutter
to each his own
First post, accurate post. Don't be stupid lads.
Edgy/10, congrats on the edge
It's designed for people who are already addicted to stims. I wound up bringing down one of my friends from his addiction by getting him hooked back on regular amphetamines and then reducing the dosage.
He thanked me afterward.
well it sounds like you need it then. there's nothing wrong with needing medication, dumbfuck. Just keep taking it and keep seeing a doctor.
Yeah, I agree. The first time I took Ritalin, it was probably the purest, best euphoria I've ever had. Adderall addled me and made me shake. Coke makes me feel good, but too jittery for the euphoria to really come through. It does make you think what these assholes are thinking, pushing these powerful stimulants on a lot of kids because mommy and daddy realized that they really didnt like little kid behavior all that much. I feel the same way about them giving out Xanax like candy to bored housewives that "feel a little edgy sometimes".
>Paxil
>SSRI
That's correct. It will make you insane. The rule is to never try to tell somebody on Paxil what's going to happen because the only way is for them to learn for themselves and then clean up the damage.
I take 50mg of Vyvanse daily. I lost some weight but I'm still in the healthy range, I get a lot more code written, but on the downside it caused me to get addicted to nicotine again, for some reason I feel the need to dip when focused and working on something on vyvanse. Small price to pay for being the most productive I've ever been in my life.
instead of taking drugs, interest yourself in woodwork as a hobby. Building your own furniture and working with wood is very satisfying.
They'll make you into a robot. No creativity left.
first hand experience.
SSRI's have helped thousands of people. But I guess your anecdotal experiences proves all that wrong.
Some people are beyond medication, it sounds like you found those people.
For most people, SSRI's are totally appropriate and helpful.
First time I took xanax it was a whole bar because my friends thought it would be funny to find out how I would react.
Holy shit. I remember like half of it and I even had a girl about ready to go like it was nothing and they told me I was the cool as fuck. You can see why folks get on benzos.
What medical school did you go to?
Bye
They've also killed plenty of people including but not limited to friends I used to have under the supervision of alleged doctors at universities that wanted nothing more than to pay out the ass to cover up that one of their own had violated all the rules when it comes to scritps.
Thanks for bumping my thread anons, I'm learning a lot
Great for getting work done but the crash can be hell. I don't use them unless I'm extremely desperate to meet a deadline.
Amphetamine salts aren't "literally meth" you dummy
Amphetamine =/= methamphetamine
Do they kill anyone other than through suicide?
No, I only ever take stimulants at the end of the term to study for the exams. Snorting adderall is only at party's and shit
Yes, many other ways. They even have an entire wing devoted to how to kill old people with drugs now via IoT.
Just don't drink while you take xanax. You will end up dead or being carried off an airplane.
The Sup Forums consensus is wrong, that the "psychiatry Jew" will ruin you, but truth is most of the medications, with a commensurate psychotherapy treatment will do you a world of good.
Xanax and other benzodiazepenes are a powerful tool for the mind and should be used although treated with respect.
Yeah, they got me for awhile. There's a klonopin thread going on right now that I've been writing in. I was an angry Xanax user. I'd get fucked up on the stuff and want to go outside and "mix" with people. I went to the mall in Arlington and was demanding Jethro Tull t-shirts from every store in the mall before the Arlington cops came, when I was being nasty at a book shop when they didn't have a Jethro Tull t-shirt, and brought me back to DC. I did the most fucked up shit on Xanax, like buy hookers on Craig's list, walk through the shittiest parts of DC being an asshole and feeling invincible, and I'd barely remember a goddamn thing. Weird, spooky stuff.
Yeah I don't really see it as any different than people who can't fuction without their 4 cups of coffee in the morning. Might as well see a doctor if you're going to self medicate like that
I'd like to hear more about this!
What are these many other ways, and how is it reported? Also, what is loT?
I'm sucking on a concerta right now and tis gr8 comfy
What do you mean by shit?
Like can't get out of bed, brush teeth, shower?? Can't concentrate nor retain any information? Please explain.
Yes Xanax is the shit but I have only done it a couple of times because it's fucking addicting
Truth. inb4 "psychiatry Jew"
There are plenty of non-Jewish high quality psychiatrists out there. I know because I found one.
As a years-old thing they put RFID chips in the pills to make sure granny is taking them, and monitor whether or not she can make her own coffee. It's about the most sick thing I've ever had to see in person.
Fuck it's after midnight and I need to fucking lift and get my life in order. Sup Forums is also a drug.
Myself was shit after my concussion. Myself on Vyvanse is less shit.
how do you deal with daily comedowns?
WAT
You can't. You just have to plan on spending a lot of time feeling like shit and being helpless until your brain starts to recover, which will begin after about 3 months at best.
>in person
Hello Feds
No you don't fucking need them.
I had a (((quack))) put me on that shit for around 3 years, turns out it wasn't the medication I fucking needed, and it screwed me up for many years.
As for the other shit he put me on, it's screwed me up permanently.
Psychatrists are not your friends, they're your drug dealers, and if you tell them even something like "Goddamnit it made me so angry today I feel like I'm going to kill him", they can take it literally and throw you in a psych ward which is like going to prison only they can keep you there indefinitely.
Gabapentin, Trazodone and alpha/beta blockers work well
Don't drink alcohol on a stim comedown, that's a recipe for a nightmare
It's where my office used to be. They kicked me out to build the new facility, so naturally I was curious what they were installing there.
It's all public. It's all advertised.
Just tell your doctor you are having side effects and they will help you manage them!
Yeah, but how does it kill them? Don't get me wrong, I'm don't like the idea of microchips in humans, but I just want to know how it actually kills people. Yes, social media and phones in general has been shown time and time again to trigger the same dopamine pathways as taking drugs does.
Because the new model of health care is to cull everybody who no longer fits the cost/benefit model.
How do you guys feel about Modafinil for studying and retaining information. Lets say for learning computer programming?
>"Goddamnit it made me so angry today I feel like I'm going to kill him",
If you actually say a sentence like that out loud to a psychiatrist you really do need some time in a psych ward, perhaps indefinitely.
Stimulants are a black hole. They will make you superman for three months, you'll be happier, more energetic, and you'll get shit done.
Then it will all come crashing down. You'll lose an obscene amount of weight, even just taking the shit daily as prescribed. You'll be irritable and your body will literally start to break down, because you haven't been able work up an appetite to eat enough food. You might even end up going through stimulant psychosis. That's what happened to me. I took 40mg of Adderall XR for my ADD each day. Dropped down from 180 to 130 .lbs over the course of three months. Was starving to death and all emaciated and whatnot, had delusional thoughts. My psychiatrist sent me to the psyche ward, and then some Apu motherfucker diagnosed me with "paranoid schizophrenia", when in reality I was going through fucking stimulant psychosis and it would have passed. They kept me in the ward for 28 days, which resulted in a 48,000 dollar hospital bill. I had to pay a percentage of that, and, being a no-college kid with middle class parents and a work history of minimum wage, I lost everything I had saved and wasn't able to move out of my parents house until I was a few years older. The medications that the docs were giving me for my diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia weren't agreeing with me, they essentially transported me to faerie-land, and heavily sedated me. Ended up in the psyche ward a few more times. Developed Tardive Dyskinesia due to being given so many anti-psychotics, so now I basically have something akin to Parkinson's. Tried to take my life by overdosing on an antipsychotic that I was prescribed called "Seroquel". Did irrepairable damage to my brain, I think. Ended up on SSI, and have been NEETing it up for 5 years. All because I fell for the Adderall meme.
Don't lose your life to those shitty fucking pills, Sup Forums. I could have been something other than a leech if I didn't see that fucking psychiatrist and tell him I couldn't focus.
False. They sent me to so many shrinks as a youth for saying things like that. Thank fucking God that was before they'd stuff 50 pills down your throat for being a normal angsty young person who couldn't fit in.
Prescribed Adderall 5 years... Off for about 5 months. Am I fucked?
Do you feel OK after 5 months off? If the answer is yes you have nothing to worry about.
If you are lying and you still sneak them sometimes then you should probably give the remainder of them to a trusted friend who loves you and won't rat you out for it.
I feel alright. Miss them, just couldn't afford them anymore but would rather be a person not taking them for reasons everyone has pointed out. Don't necessarily regret taking them because it helped me find a lot of stuff out but don't ever want to go back. They start to ruin you after a while.
>Stimulants are degenerate but benzos are not
It's like the pot calling the kettle black
How much you get a month, bro?
$731 a month. Enough to pay my rent, internet, and electricity, and then I have 60 dollars left over, which I buy bags of tobacco or maybe a novelty here and there with. Also get $194 in EBT food stamps.
I miss them, too. Sometimes I feel like today I could just do it again like it used to be if only I could snort a line.
Good for you.