Why Reddit pretends religion and science are like polar opposites?

Why Reddit pretends religion and science are like polar opposites?
Why Reddit pretends atheism is related to science while atheism is just autistic screeching at God?

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>polar opposites
But opposites are identical in nature just different in degree, extremes meet

This. Especially considering almost all the scientists they look up to were religious.

t. Atheist that believes strongly in Judeo-Christian values and hates most atheists.

Religion is blue pilled mind control where critical thinking is taboo. Science is about finding truth and understanding reality.

Science is for work, religion is for art.

Someone tried to be poetic and failed.

Scientists don't usually want anything to do with religion, and atheists mistake this for them actually being atheists.

>Religion is blue pilled mind control where critical thinking is taboo.
Moronic strawman.
>Science is about finding truth and understanding reality.
So is metaphysics, philosophy and politically incorrectness

Because if you achieve rational thought religion seems delusional.

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There is also the fact that most religious claims either are against scientific facts or are unfalsifiable therefore are not scientific.

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Correction : every religious claim.

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Because they're reddit

Is it not simply a power structure to exert control over the masses by a few elites then?
All the other stuff in religion just seems like fluff and mental gymnastics to obfuscate the true purpose and train followers to blindly accept irrational nonsense.
It's evil.

>Tesla
>Lemaître
>Heisenberg

Funny how the biggest minds ever walked on earth were Christians though

atheist btfo!

>So is metaphysics
Metaphysics is superstitious garbage for retards which, by definition, has no evidence or theory to back it up. It's just religion without a god.

Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Galileo Galilei and William Thompson too

No. That is not what metaphysics is.
And obviously if they were atheist then they were socially isolated by the society. They were not the biggest minds because they were religious it was in spite of that.

No. That is not what metaphysics is.
And obviously if they were atheist then they were socially isolated by the society. They were not the biggest minds because they were religious it was in spite of that....

Science isn't all that can be tested and proven. Quantum mechanics did away with that. So now a good part of cosmology and partical physics is belief.

Similarly, religion isn't all make-belief. Archaeologists can proove that some stuff that's in the Bible actually took place, though the battles weren't nearly as big as they've been written down.

Anyway, my point is: Both religion and science have their place, and beware of people demonizing one or the other. (I.e. Dawkins)

The know of neither, so their ignorance of both is equality in their eyes.

Can you name me a supernatural claim in the bible that has been proven true.

(((Atheism))) is basically an anti-Christian religion. They "preach" about how religion is awful and stupid, but by religion they really just mean Christianity (you never hear atheists say much about Islam/Buddhism/etc.)

>Why Reddit pretends atheism is related to science while atheism is just autistic screeching at God?


How can atheists screech at god when they belive gods dont exist?

21st century westcuck religion is just a pathetic attempt at trying to preserve identity when christianity was already dying by the 19th century.

Seriously, how long you pathetic cucks are going on with the god of the gaps, fedora memes, "nice jesus" and your bland, inoffensive christian sundae of heresies trying to preserve that mummy from crumbling to dust?

Either accept atheism or if you want a real religion that ruthlessly and zealously enforces its doctrinal beliefs unironically convert to islam.

>Why Reddit pretends religion and science are like polar opposites?

Because philosophical inquiry has gotten so specialised that its easy to forget that science is just a branch of a tree rather than the tree itself?

>Why Reddit pretends atheism is related to science while atheism is just autistic screeching at God?

Everygroup tends to portray those who dont belong to them as less intelligent.

Pretty bad reasoning, it took Christianity about 500 years before it started producing quality thinkers to match pagan ones and about another 600-700 before they started outpacing them in all areas.

By your logic it would have been justifyable for the pagans of those times to consider Christians as morons. Likewise were athiest societies to produce better thinkers in the future would you abandon christianity?

Athiesm being culturally relevant is less than 100 years old, indeed we have yet to even have one society where it is 100% the cultural baseline

No. Just history that was long time beliefved to be just story telling, but has found to have happened. Like the Great Deluge for example.

>Quantum mechanics did away with that. So now a good part of cosmology and partical physics is belief.

Just because youre too much of a dunce to understand it. Morons keep confusing hypothesises and working theories with belief.

>Anyway, my point is: Both religion and science have their place, and beware of people demonizing one or the other. (I.e. Dawkins

I'm too lazy to dig up a "moderate" smuggie for your.

I can also see the pussyness in the atheist movement but that does not mean that what they say is not true.

So ridiculous superstition has its place because the scriptures also record a few historical events? That makes no sense.

Quantum mechanics has made absolutely no difference in that regard. Science isn't math, nothing in science is proven beyond statistical evidence, but that it is, including quantum theory, and unlike religion.

How can somebody call themselves a theist if they do not believe in a personal deity who is the creator.

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>How can atheists screech at god when they belive gods dont exist?
They do, it's the only thing atheist do.
>21st century westcuck religion is just a pathetic attempt at trying to preserve identity when christianity was already dying by the 19th century.
Maybe for Euroshits, for America we took a strong stance in God we trust to fight the atheist USSR
>Seriously, how long you pathetic cucks are going on with the god of the gaps, fedora memes, "nice jesus" and your bland, inoffensive christian sundae of heresies trying to preserve that mummy from crumbling to dust?
Butthurt
>Either accept atheism or if you want a real religion that ruthlessly and zealously enforces its doctrinal beliefs unironically convert to islam.
Why? Christianity is Islam without the bad, we can drink wine, we can eat bacon, we do not behead, we can have freedom but still have strict values.
The only reason got itself into us is because of leftist traitors who are mostly atheists.

Well, it is belief. Just like humankind believed for ages that the sun rotates around the earth. Early observations indicated that that was so.

What you call hypothesis is just a believe in a model that fits some equations. More or less. Who knows, 50 years from now someone may discover that you can't just drop that constant or that you have to adjust for lambda.

Anyway, I'm a scientist myself, and I know first hand that their high horse isn't as high as they think it is.

My point is and was: No side should say it's better than the other. Science has the scientific principal of reproduceable experiments, I give you that. But there's still a lot science can't answer without speculating.

Are you trolling or do you actually believe that what you are saying are rebuttals

>Pretty bad reasoning, it took Christianity about 500 years before it started producing quality thinkers to match pagan ones and about another 600-700 before they started outpacing them in all areas.
Most of that period Europe got hit by wars, invasions and the black death. Rome fell for a reason.

t.gypsy intellectual.

Why do you think that the hypothesis that religion preaches as truth is close to the truth?

>They do, it's the only thing atheist do.

Projection

>for America we took a strong stance in God

Are you seriously going to bring up the bible belt as a positive example?

>to fight the atheist USSR

You didnt fight shit. Stalemated at Korea, lost at Vietnam, lost the cultural war in africa and too scared to intervene in the eastern european uprisings. Good thing communism collapsed on its own.

>Christianity is Islam without the bad

No one gives a shit about christianity anymore except larpers. Their values have no impact, governments and legislation ignore them, pop culture and people have forgotten them. Its a dead memeplex. Islam is alive and spreading.

>Anyway, I'm a scientist myself

>I'm a guy btw guys

You literally cant grasp the fucking basic of the scientific method, falsifiablity.

>But there's still a lot science can't answer without speculating.

Cause that IS fucking science you cuck mongrel. Testing and disproving theories.

>theist if they do not believe in a personal deity
Wew, your autism is showing. Apparently all theists now have to believe in a monotheistic/ personal God to be theist.

He specifically said that many events in the bible can be proven through history, you somehow misread that as "the supernatural parts of the Bible are factual!"

Why do you think that Christianity is true?

They tend to be very dumb.

Maybe you should go ask Reddit.
Ask them about English lessons while you're there.

Which child raping Christian group do you most strongly identify with my God denying friend?

>religion
Do you always simplistic words? Not all religions are even close to being identical. "Religion" doesn't have a single unanimous hypothesis. Also, not all religions are theistic, nor are all theists monotheists.

Most mainstream atheists understand Christianity as Evangelical Protestantism and so conflict thesis is the name of the game. They characterize the rest because they know no better.

In terms of how atheism is understood, for most of western history "atheist" was a derogatory term for immoral people. By the 18th century it became a view for believing God does not exist. In the 20th century it became a word for an absence of belief in God.

Cheers.

If they do not believe in a personal deity then they are deists and not theist

i was not talking about him then it was more about stating that if you only believe in those historical events you are not even a deist.

>He specifically said that many events in the bible can be proven through history, you somehow misread that as "the supernatural parts of the Bible are factual!"
But he clearly implied that when he concluded from it that religion has its place. Because the recording of some historical events in a book by itself has nothing to do with religion.

No.
But when it comes to the origin of the cosmos, I don't think "all of a sudden, out of nothing and random chance, there suddenly was a singularity that exploded into the universe we know today" is a good explanation or a good belief either.

Ive web scraped nearly 50,000 youtube videos on near death experiences (specifically the closed caption text). 3 things emerged from analysis, god exists, hell exists, heaven exists. The videos almost always describe hell as a sense of utter despair like floating endlessly in the void/darkness of space. The videos almost always describe heaven as a sense of utter love and happiness, not in the gay fruity way that your prolly thinking, more like the feeling you had that one year, during that one summer night where everything worked out and everything was chill. Most say they saw a bright light and when it got close it was god. I interpreted that as, god appeared as they imagined. Some of the videos say heaven is a planet. Most say god replayed their lives, specifically every time they did something selfless/good. Most say god created everything, but only a few actually extrapolate and explain this. They say basically, you know how atheists always bitch about bibles contradiction with science or semantical bullshit, they are thinking far too small. They explain proof of god being the entire structure of the universe, the laws of math, the laws of physics, the laws of gravity. Why does the universe even exist, why are the elements of the periodic table perfectly ordered, why isnt existence just nothingness or chaos? God is the idea of order, light, and/or good. After dealing with the lefty shills, deepstate shills, corporate shills, and islamic shills, ive noticed some profound ideas. God is the human conscience, conscience is the catalyst for free will, free will is what makes humanity unique (not intelligence), truth is determined through trust, everything on tv is a lie to keep us controlled, everything considered a conspiracy is true (cept flat earth thats fucking retarded). The meaning of life is to do good, be honorable, have integrity, attain good karma, achieve nirvana, become enlightened, follow bushido, do whats right, follow the 'way', BE A FUCKING MAN.

Do you always simplistic words? (wtf)
excuse me i was talking about the religion of Christianity,

i dont know what was before the big bang but i know that you dont either

Maybe there was no big bang at all. It's not proven, but pure speculation. Maybe existence is, and has always been, eternal.

What conspiracies do you consider true?

kek 50K vids and the "findings" are not worth any value because science already has answers for almost everything at that physical happening.

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Because Reddit doesn't understand shit.
Religion and science are not necessarily opposite: religion deals with the soul, science is the knowledge of the world around us.
God has given us a brain, and the possibility to understand the world around us and developing our skills. Again, I see no conflict. Fanatics do, though.

Atheism is not related to science: being atheist doesn't make you more intelligent by itself. It's not some sort of "intelligence pill": I know a lot of atheist who are beyond the concept of stupidity, and have absolutely no culture at all. But they like to think "Hey, I'm atheist: so, I must be more intelligent than those who believe!".

Plus, atheism is not "autistic screeching" against God: the TRUE atheist doesn't do anything like this, for he doesn't believe in God, and nobody screeches against something that does not exist. A true atheist simply lives his lives ignoring religion completely. He doesn't feel the need the insult those who believe: those who indulge in such behaviour are probably insecure, they claim to be atheist but deeply inside they believe, and screech at God just to find more "screechers" to prove to themselves that they are right.
Screechers who praise atheism fanatically are like those fanatic christian preachers who screech on TV shows, no more no less.

The big bang theory doesn't necessarily imply the universe isn't eternal. It just implies everything was much much closer together billions of years ago.

>big bang
>theorized because of expansion of the universe
>much about which is NOT know today
>hence dark matter
>hence dark force
So ... it is the result of speculations about something we don't know a lot about?

With the same argumentation you can reason that a thunder god "definitely has to exist", because there's sometimes thunder.

But it's a good example. The big bang is speculation that you seem to believe in. Which is exactly like believing in a religion.

religion and science are often in conflict though. It's rare that a religion only deals with spiritual matters and doesn't make statements of fact about the physical world in conflict with scientific observation.

Science is looking for the truth, while religion is a made up story. If through science a god is proven to exist then they can relate. But, this is like saying: Why do people pretend science and fairy tales are opposites. Because one is objectively looking for the truth while the other is a story of many that don't have valid proof.

A true atheist simply lives his lives ignoring religion completely
Look, that is true but i am an antitheist therefore i do not need to stick to those rules

>The big bang is speculation that you seem to believe in. Which is exactly like believing in a religion.
There is an incredible amount of evidence for the big bang though

No. The big bang is considered true because of the expansion of the universe not because of dark matter . Are you really a scientist?

People who have "near death experiences" are just tripping balls. It's the mind interpreting impulses in a strange way under duress (lack of oxygen or something).

Dark matter and dark force are just names for something that hypothetically should be there based on what we know but we can't currently detect it, it's not magical mumbo jumbo.

Also for religion to deal with souls souls must exist. But why do you think that souls exist?

If you take a child of 6 and one of 12 years of age, you can interpolate he/she will grow to be 5 metres tall when he/she is 30. Calculations like these make up a good deal of the "evidence" that there was a big bang.

I'm not saying there wasn't. I just find it hard to believe.

>Also for religion to deal with souls souls must exist
not true though. Just because you decide talk talk of souls doesn't mean they exist.

That's when its wordly organization takes up too much space. Core beliefs (like the Gospels) are not in conflict with scientific observation, they deal with the spirit, relationships with others, and human behaviour.
Religions who attempt to state something against scientific observation are often pagan ones, who developed before science, and attempted to give their explanation to unknown phenomena. That's one of the reasons they're obsolete.

Atheist =/= antitheist.
An atheist just doesn't give a shit about religion.
An "antitheist" (like the word says) is someone against the concept of God.

Do you think there is going to be a heat death of the universe?

Believing in the existence of the soul is not a logical thought, can't be explained through reasonable thinking. They're called "beliefs" for a reason.
People believe soul exists because they feel that their person is not limited to just the mind and the body.

True. But why are we not taxing churches?

That's judaism

I meant the expansion of the universe doesn't follow the mathematical models there are. So mysterious "dark forces" and "dark matter" were introduced into the equations so that the result would be what can be observed.

I'm just saying there is a discrepancy between what scientists think there should be according to cosmologic theories and what can actually be observed to be there.

Again, I'm not criticizing. Scientists need a working hypothesis to start work on. So why shouldn't people need an unscientific hypothesis on what comes after death and all those things etc.? Both have there place, you can't mix them, and you can't substitute one for the other.

>Calculations like these make up a good deal of the "evidence" that there was a big bang.
No, we can actually directly observe that everything in the universe was once so close together that it was compressed into an opaque gas. We can literally see this in our radio telescopes.

Also, when we calculate was the universe would look like has things been much much closer together before the the stuff we can see with telescopes, we can produce very accurate predictions of stuff we can see. Even the distribution of galaxies matches what would have been caused by quantum randomness when galaxies were compressed to the quantum scale.

This is why most people believe in the big bang. There's overwhelming evidence that it's exactly what happened and pretty much nothing that implies that it didn't happen.

>Why Reddit pretends religion and science are like polar opposites?
Why is your English so bad? Can you just go back to the 5th grade already?

People believe soul exists because they feel that their person is not limited to just the mind and the body
That is just wishful thinking.

You want to tell me about how this weird feelings are hell and heaven. But the fact is, it's only your brain short on oxygen/blood/etc.

>They do, it's the only thing atheist do.
>for America we took a strong stance in God we trust to fight the atheist USSR
>we can eat bacon, we do not behead

Is this a paid troll? Why would anyone who's obviously not American pretend to be? Plus OP stopped posting. Sage this shit.

There is evidence for the scientific hypothesis but no evidence for an unscientific hypothesis. That is why i am against it.

Check out atheist voting patterns and compare them to Jews

Sure: there is a beginning to the universe. For the longest time, scientists and philosophers didn't believe that until the big bang was discovered, validating the Bible.

You are very quick to go from having something that is still not fully known to scientist and poorly explained to how religion and science are the same, even though religion are supposed to be the word of an infallible god. This is why religion is horseshit, science CAN be wrong, religion can't. And so far, science has been right more times than religion has. This is enough to call bullshit on any holy book. If you want to believe in your fairy tales, that's up to you, but don't come to me and tell me that you're being rational about your beliefs. Believing in a religion such as christianity or any other religion is no different believing in the tooth fairy.

Because deep down they believe in God and they are just in open rebellion. If they really believed in what they said, they would be agnostic, not atheists. No, they are just angry at God.

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>validating the Bible.
They guy who proposed the Big Big Bang theory was a priest and personally told the pope it should not be considered as validation of anything in the bible.

I'm not even sure what part of the bible it validates. Certainly not the bit about the earth being made in 6 days.

The jews stole spirituality from us.

Because deep down they believe in God and they are just in open rebellion
Which god?

Its that simple. The fucking kikes stole spirituality and brainwashed ppl.

God is God of everything and all gods.

INFITE

FUCK JEWISH GOD

The god of which religion?

All religions. Man made religions. Religions dont make god.

Christfags would argue that god created the world in 6 god days, which are apparently equal to something like 13.7 billion human years, to, of course, match the scientific evidences.

I call bullshit. They change and interpret their book in a different way every day, to keep up with all the scientific evidences contradicting it. At some point, you have to look at it rationally and cut your losses.

You want to believe in a god that's fine. But don't come and tell me that the god in the bible or torah or quran is real, because those are fairy tales.

>I know this because my religions magic book told me so

Muh crossbows, muh galileo, muh macroevolution

What if science discovered god

Nah man think about it.

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