>dreamers >more educated than the average US citizen. >100% have no criminal record >91% of them have jobs compared to only 50% for US citizens >make higher wage than the average US citizen of the same age
How would you argue for deportation without using an appeal to law fallacy?
How can they have a criminal record if they themselves have no fucking papers?
Brandon Price
>Make a crime >Get deported >100% of Dreamers population don“t have criminal record Makes u think
Carson Scott
>100%
I sure wish I could get away with just lying straight through my teeth like the left does.
Angel Wood
PICK YOUR THINGS AND BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY!
Julian Ross
Why don't they just become legal?
Brody Reyes
100%
Carson Johnson
>political bloviating without providing a single source or actual fact to back it up
definitely a millennial.
Evan Campbell
So wait, let me get this straight.
you're saying all these illgals have jobs and Americans don't? So if they are sent out those jobs will need people to take them right?
Adrian Evans
Democrats hate every single white male that doesn't give them money, apologize for being white, support mass immigration, cheer race mixing and forced integration, etc.
The real red pill is to never vote for a white male Democrat. He will work with Big Business to make sure that YOUR community is forced to integrate the CHEAP LABOR while he and his buddies eat caviar and drink champagne in their ivory towers.
#NOWHITEDEMOCRATS
John Murphy
Fpbp
Dylan Morris
How many of them have broken US labor laws? Send them back I'm tracked like a fucking cockroach I'd have a job too if I could glide in and out of the underground economy.
Carter Gonzalez
0% of them should have jobs. We should take the dreamers' jobs and force niggers to do them. Kick the dreamers out, and put the niggers back to work.
Daniel Sanders
>Be in a country illegally >100% of them dindu nuffin
Hudson Diaz
>100% of those criminals have no criminal record
Lucas Fisher
>91% of dreamers have jobs oops, they just explained why we're deporting them.
Thomas Ross
>here illegally >no criminal record i dont think so tim. >91% have jobs yep, violating labor laws
Cooper Fisher
I would argue that they stole all of that from rightful citizens. Doesn't matter how successful they are, we have disadvantaged Americans of all races we can take care of and it's a fucking travesty that we are giving illegal spics opportunity that should go to an American. If you aren't legal you aren't my countryman and I have zero sympathy for you. I'd rather help black Americans than help illegal spics who come here to steal from us.
Gimme the link you worthless wretch, I'm in the mood to trigger tards with hatefacts.
Robert Wood
3% of all Americans have committed a violent or property crime. It's statistically impossible that a dreamer has never committed a crime.
Caleb Richardson
...
Daniel Thomas
HA, millennials talking about jobs, how ironic. how's living with mommy and daddy with 6 figure student debt like?
Jaxson Stewart
This is what I'm saying too. The niggers in my city have almost no jobs because the spics have come to my city and completely fucked up wages and stole the jobs from them. Niggers hardly had an opportunity at middle class life because as soon as they had opportunity the spics came in and took it. Same with poor whites and legal Mexicans, they all get screwed over because of these entities beaners who demand we care about them while they show absolutely no concern for anyone but them and their families. I'm Latino and I've lost all sympathy for illegals and anchor babies. They are thieves and manipulators.
Liam Cox
Hahahaha
Ryder Anderson
I said post the twatter link.
Jordan Williams
nnnnnngggghhhh... superb
Eli Davis
Where the fuck is the verrit code?
Ayden Sanders
When a daca gets a criminal record they are no longer a daca. Also source for the 91%?
Colton Hughes
>illegal >no crime pick one
Alexander Perry
>new libshit meme is calling illegal immigrants dreamers
they never fail to make me lose my sides hard
Cameron Richardson
We are constantly told what a valuable contribution they make but their own country doesn't want them. Sort of makes you go Hmmmm....
Lincoln Hall
So the 91% figure is from a sample size of 3,000 people. That's not disingenuous to extrapolate those findings to all daca people though right?
Angel Sanchez
Why would i make an argument outside the bounds of the context of the argument?
if law doesn't exist for argument sake, then neither does DACA, illegal immigrants or the United States.
if the United States doesn't exist as a champion among nations, there would be no reason to immigrate there, and would-be immigrants would happy to seek employment in non-Mexico.
Lucas Kelly
Yeah, even the latinos who are already here should be worried about further immigration. They'll just keep coming and taking the jobs they can get... which are going to be lower wage jobs that used to be how the lower class could get by... we're stealing opportunities from the lower class, the recently immigrated, and the young.
If you're 16 and you're trying to save for your first car, what do you do now? Do you take a 4hr shift at McDonalds after school? Well, you can't anymore because Miguel took it. Miguel doesn't mind only making $8/hr because he lives with 9 other immigrants in a little house. His rent is gonna get covered no matter what. He makes extra money on the weekends by doing manual labor. He's poor, but he qualifies for government benefits, and his kids are getting a free education and food from the city. All he has to do is hold down two jobs and they'll be fine.
And those two jobs he's holding down could have gone to two young adults who are in a pinch and need to cover rent for the next two months while they get their footing. Now that kid has to go move in with mom and dad again. Oh well.
He was going to ask Cindy out, but Cindy doesn't want to date a guy who lives with his parents. She's okay with a hard working lower class guy, for now, but he can't even get a job cleaning the local factory floor because Miguel took it. Poor kid can't become self-determined. He's stuck under his parent's wing, and can't venture out into the world and find a woman. I guess it's NEET for him.
Austin Butler
The ones who commit crimes lose their 'dreamer' status, so they're being disingenuous as fuck with that statement. Hell look for stories of 'oh I just got a DUI and lost my DACA status' complaints. So did a 'dreamer' commit that crime? Apparently not according to the left, because due to the crime they're no longer a dreamer.
Michael Nelson
illegal =/= criminal
Pretty sure you did plenty of illegal things in your life, but you're probably not a criminal.
Jackson Brown
they'd need to leave the country and give up all dem gibs
Cooper Ward
3000 is a pretty good sample size. Most surveys or studies don't us anywhere near that.
I just snapped 3 bowls like a criminal in the last few mins I wouldn't be crying wondering how this could happen if the DEA rolled through my neighborhood and found me.
Aiden Hernandez
>Being in the US illegally >No criminal record The first line isn't even factually correct, so...
Christopher Myers
I had a dream, a dream that I would take the whities' money and infrastructure.
Caleb Reyes
>helping foreigners succeed more than your own citizens.
Jordan Torres
>law >fallacy What
Brayden Diaz
Is it disingenuous that they only surveyed people age 19-25?
Ian Morales
It's still correct. They have no criminal record because they have no records period.
Julian Ward
having no criminal record and not committing crime are two separate things. They all have committed crime by being here illegally.
Hunter Lopez
>select 3000 who you know are crime free and mostly employed >"See! ALL DREAMERS ARE GREAT PEOPLE"
This is a situation where big government is helpful. They can't exactly just pick and choose who they want to represent their crime, unemployment, and poverty scales. That's why libshits constantly shill to include hispanic as caucasian so there can't be any finger pointing towards the eternal juan
Jonathan Sanchez
>>more educated than the average US citizen.
Why the fuck were we educating foreigners instead of American citizens, fucking assholes
Blake Stewart
>How would you argue for deportation without using an appeal to law fallacy? They are not Americans, so why should they get to live in the US? Regardless of how much good they do and how much prosperity they bring, they're still in a foreign country. Their hosts can at any moment kick them out for whatever reason they wish. For no reason at all, if that's what they want.
Liam Adams
Laws can be just as flawed as the people who write them
Noah Wilson
pretty easy to get a job when you can put latino on your resume. leave those jobs for americans
Anthony Anderson
>more educated than the average US citizen. >100% have no criminal record
Aren't the basic requirements that they have a clean record and are in education? Also
>100% are criminals
Brandon Thompson
Working illegally is a crime
That means 91% are criminals. You can't have a job without being here legally
David Miller
This is exactly why Trump was elected. Mexicans taking jobs away from Americans. And they are no longer a Dreamer if they get arrested. They are then deported.
Nicholas Garcia
noun 1. a person who has committed a crime. "these men are dangerous criminals" synonyms: lawbreaker, offender, villain, delinquent, felon, convict, malefactor, wrongdoer, culprit, miscreant; More
Gavin Powell
Because they want to take free resources from our country and then they'll fuck off back to theirs and make oodles of free money
Colton Jones
this desu
Thomas Jones
>*harbors south Americans and doesn't even care*
Parker Long
You forgot that 100% of them are citizens of another country, which makes 100% of dreamers not American. Minorities need white people; white people don't need minorities.
Parker Brown
3pbp
Justin Thompson
>things that just straight-up aren't true
Aaron Edwards
It can't be 100% because I know a few "dreamers" under daca who have been arrested for possession. This is, of course, letting go of the fact that they are criminals by definition for being illegal.
I'd ask where they got their statistics, then ask for reputable citations.
Also, how can they not have criminal records when they are here illegally?
Nolan Phillips
No. Pretty sure the whole point of the study is to measure improvements in education and wage DACA recipients of those ages.
19-25 is about time when people start college or enter a job so that's what they wanted to study.
Blake Miller
Citation needed.
Luis Lee
>100% of criminals have no criminal record even though they are criminals >this somehow means they are not criminals Any american care to explain this logic?
Wyatt Collins
They don't have a criminal record because they get deported if they commit a crime. They stop becoming dealers and become just a regular illegal.
Isaiah Gonzalez
Also 100% of Dreamers have broken the law by being here illegally Really activated my almonds.
Caleb Murphy
Go be a traitor somewhere else.
Samuel Parker
We can't. It's liberal doublethink just like how blatantly racist groups like BLM "can't be racist" because they change the definition of racist to include "being from a position of power or advantage" when it truly just means disliking a race.
It isn't supposed to make sense. Just like how 10 years ago liberals didn't care about gays or trannies but then obama flip flopped on the gay marriage issue and now we have shit like I am Jazz on TV.
Jacob Ortiz
Does the average normie ever look at this and say >huh, isnt is strange that democrats prefer mexicans to us? Or do they just accept it because it's the correct opinion in the current year?
David James
They had a criminal record the moment their parents smuggled them into our country.
God dammit, why are Democrats so stupid?
Gavin Wood
Bretty gud strategy desu, it's a government enforced "no true scottsman"
Brandon Russell
So why didn't they specify 91% of daca aged 19-25 are employed?why extrapolate it to all daca
Connor Perry
Any figures like this are so utterly irrelevant I laugh when people bring them up. How they compare against the legal/native population does not matter when by law they aren't even supposed to be there in the first place.
Landon Clark
The Democrats use voter fraud to create this idea that they are actually supported by a large percent of the population. Even with their outrageous traitorous activities they still don't have governorships, the senate, the house, or the presidency.
Samuel Lewis
>3000 isn't good enough
Literally what. There have been drugs tested in clinical trials that have used lower sample sizes than this.
Oliver Smith
>without using an appeal to law fallacy?
Except that's a completely valid argument in this case. No matter how "brilliant" they are, they are illegals and the US voted that they don't want illegals no matter how useful they are.
Liam Reyes
>you can't drive a car without license >you can't buy alcohol without an ID
>you can live there without documents
wat?
Tyler Walker
>educated aka >indoctrinated with propaganda
Thanks, but no thanks.
Jack Richardson
>non citizens >having jobs Why would you think that this wouldn't make us angrier?
James Kelly
>dreamers explain this meme please
Levi Davis
>No criminal record Well they are illegals so...
Christopher Thomas
>no criminal record
>here illegally
Topkek
Cameron Flores
Obama wrapped up Amnesty in an EO with the acronym DREAM.
Think PATRIOT act but for illegals.
Jeremiah Sanders
The 91% figure is a different one. That's from a CATO study that included all ages under the DACA program.
The study on the 19-25 ages is just to show how good their wages were in comparison to the average US citizen of the same age.
Alexander Nelson
These stats are complete bullshit, dems just can't stop lying, it's pathetic
Logan Russell
100% are criminals seeing as the first thing they did upon entering the country was to break the immigration law.
Elijah Foster
So all you need to pass a fuck my entire population act on the US is to name it a nice acronym forming a good word?
Grayson Evans
Actually, dreamers and DACA arenpaths to citizenship. So that's what they're doing.
>t.former dreamer, now permanent resident
Levi Gonzalez
He's also not committing crimes in a foreign country at the expensive of its people unlike spics.
Nolan Butler
>100% of dreamers have no criminal record
that's statistically impossible
Hudson Scott
>100% of dreamers have no criminal record
They're criminals by default.
Angel Cooper
How long did it take you to go from dreamer to resident? Haven't they had plenty of time to get themselves legal?
Jose Hernandez
Exactly, whether it's morally right or wrong to be mad about it, doesn't matter.... because it's an idiotic strategy. People WILL be mad.
Tyler Lopez
It wouldn't work if 1/2 the country didn't want amnesty in the first place. I've had people tell me with a straight face that amnesty is the way to STOP illegal immigration, because they "won't have to live in fear and will come openly."