Dreamers

>dreamers
>more educated than the average US citizen.
>100% have no criminal record
>91% of them have jobs compared to only 50% for US citizens
>make higher wage than the average US citizen of the same age

How would you argue for deportation without using an appeal to law fallacy?

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And what percent of them have to go back?

How can they have a criminal record if they themselves have no fucking papers?

>Make a crime
>Get deported
>100% of Dreamers population don“t have criminal record
Makes u think

>100%

I sure wish I could get away with just lying straight through my teeth like the left does.

PICK YOUR THINGS AND BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY!

Why don't they just become legal?

100%

>political bloviating without providing a single source or actual fact to back it up

definitely a millennial.

So wait, let me get this straight.

you're saying all these illgals have jobs and Americans don't? So if they are sent out those jobs will need people to take them right?

Democrats hate every single white male that doesn't give them money, apologize for being white, support mass immigration, cheer race mixing and forced integration, etc.

The real red pill is to never vote for a white male Democrat. He will work with Big Business to make sure that YOUR community is forced to integrate the CHEAP LABOR while he and his buddies eat caviar and drink champagne in their ivory towers.

#NOWHITEDEMOCRATS

Fpbp

How many of them have broken US labor laws?
Send them back I'm tracked like a fucking cockroach I'd have a job too if I could glide in and out of the underground economy.

0% of them should have jobs. We should take the dreamers' jobs and force niggers to do them. Kick the dreamers out, and put the niggers back to work.

>Be in a country illegally
>100% of them dindu nuffin

>100% of those criminals have no criminal record

>91% of dreamers have jobs
oops, they just explained why we're deporting them.

>here illegally
>no criminal record
i dont think so tim.
>91% have jobs
yep, violating labor laws

I would argue that they stole all of that from rightful citizens. Doesn't matter how successful they are, we have disadvantaged Americans of all races we can take care of and it's a fucking travesty that we are giving illegal spics opportunity that should go to an American. If you aren't legal you aren't my countryman and I have zero sympathy for you. I'd rather help black Americans than help illegal spics who come here to steal from us.

>1 post by this id
>citation needed

Sage

For the wage figures

americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2017/08/28/437956/daca-recipients-economic-educational-gains-continue-grow/

the 91% figure is from the CATO institute.

Archived that for you
unvis.it/americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2017/08/28/437956/daca-recipients-economic-educational-gains-continue-grow

Gimme the link you worthless wretch, I'm in the mood to trigger tards with hatefacts.

3% of all Americans have committed a violent or property crime. It's statistically impossible that a dreamer has never committed a crime.

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HA, millennials talking about jobs, how ironic. how's living with mommy and daddy with 6 figure student debt like?

This is what I'm saying too. The niggers in my city have almost no jobs because the spics have come to my city and completely fucked up wages and stole the jobs from them. Niggers hardly had an opportunity at middle class life because as soon as they had opportunity the spics came in and took it. Same with poor whites and legal Mexicans, they all get screwed over because of these entities beaners who demand we care about them while they show absolutely no concern for anyone but them and their families. I'm Latino and I've lost all sympathy for illegals and anchor babies. They are thieves and manipulators.

Hahahaha

I said post the twatter link.

nnnnnngggghhhh... superb

Where the fuck is the verrit code?

When a daca gets a criminal record they are no longer a daca.
Also source for the 91%?

>illegal
>no crime
pick one

>new libshit meme is calling illegal immigrants dreamers

they never fail to make me lose my sides hard

We are constantly told what a valuable contribution they make but their own country doesn't want them. Sort of makes you go Hmmmm....

So the 91% figure is from a sample size of 3,000 people. That's not disingenuous to extrapolate those findings to all daca people though right?

Why would i make an argument outside the bounds of the context of the argument?

if law doesn't exist for argument sake, then neither does DACA, illegal immigrants or the United States.

if the United States doesn't exist as a champion among nations, there would be no reason to immigrate there, and would-be immigrants would happy to seek employment in non-Mexico.

Yeah, even the latinos who are already here should be worried about further immigration. They'll just keep coming and taking the jobs they can get... which are going to be lower wage jobs that used to be how the lower class could get by... we're stealing opportunities from the lower class, the recently immigrated, and the young.

If you're 16 and you're trying to save for your first car, what do you do now? Do you take a 4hr shift at McDonalds after school? Well, you can't anymore because Miguel took it. Miguel doesn't mind only making $8/hr because he lives with 9 other immigrants in a little house. His rent is gonna get covered no matter what. He makes extra money on the weekends by doing manual labor. He's poor, but he qualifies for government benefits, and his kids are getting a free education and food from the city. All he has to do is hold down two jobs and they'll be fine.

And those two jobs he's holding down could have gone to two young adults who are in a pinch and need to cover rent for the next two months while they get their footing. Now that kid has to go move in with mom and dad again. Oh well.

He was going to ask Cindy out, but Cindy doesn't want to date a guy who lives with his parents. She's okay with a hard working lower class guy, for now, but he can't even get a job cleaning the local factory floor because Miguel took it. Poor kid can't become self-determined. He's stuck under his parent's wing, and can't venture out into the world and find a woman. I guess it's NEET for him.

The ones who commit crimes lose their 'dreamer' status, so they're being disingenuous as fuck with that statement. Hell look for stories of 'oh I just got a DUI and lost my DACA status' complaints. So did a 'dreamer' commit that crime? Apparently not according to the left, because due to the crime they're no longer a dreamer.

illegal =/= criminal

Pretty sure you did plenty of illegal things in your life, but you're probably not a criminal.

they'd need to leave the country and give up all dem gibs

3000 is a pretty good sample size. Most surveys or studies don't us anywhere near that.

>100% have no criminal record
foxnews.com/us/2017/08/02/dreamer-accused-brutally-raping-woman-in-washington.html
Nice try faggot.

I just snapped 3 bowls like a criminal in the last few mins
I wouldn't be crying wondering how this could happen if the DEA rolled through my neighborhood and found me.

>Being in the US illegally
>No criminal record
The first line isn't even factually correct, so...

I had a dream, a dream that I would take the whities' money and infrastructure.

>helping foreigners succeed more than your own citizens.

>law
>fallacy
What

Is it disingenuous that they only surveyed people age 19-25?

It's still correct. They have no criminal record because they have no records period.

having no criminal record and not committing crime are two separate things. They all have committed crime by being here illegally.

>select 3000 who you know are crime free and mostly employed
>"See! ALL DREAMERS ARE GREAT PEOPLE"

This is a situation where big government is helpful. They can't exactly just pick and choose who they want to represent their crime, unemployment, and poverty scales. That's why libshits constantly shill to include hispanic as caucasian so there can't be any finger pointing towards the eternal juan

>>more educated than the average US citizen.

Why the fuck were we educating foreigners instead of American citizens, fucking assholes

>How would you argue for deportation without using an appeal to law fallacy?
They are not Americans, so why should they get to live in the US? Regardless of how much good they do and how much prosperity they bring, they're still in a foreign country. Their hosts can at any moment kick them out for whatever reason they wish. For no reason at all, if that's what they want.

Laws can be just as flawed as the people who write them

pretty easy to get a job when you can put latino on your resume. leave those jobs for americans

>more educated than the average US citizen.
>100% have no criminal record

Aren't the basic requirements that they have a clean record and are in education? Also

>100% are criminals

Working illegally is a crime

That means 91% are criminals. You can't have a job without being here legally

This is exactly why Trump was elected. Mexicans taking jobs away from Americans. And they are no longer a Dreamer if they get arrested. They are then deported.

noun
1.
a person who has committed a crime.
"these men are dangerous criminals"
synonyms: lawbreaker, offender, villain, delinquent, felon, convict, malefactor, wrongdoer, culprit, miscreant; More

Because they want to take free resources from our country and then they'll fuck off back to theirs and make oodles of free money

this desu

>*harbors south Americans and doesn't even care*

You forgot that 100% of them are citizens of another country, which makes 100% of dreamers not American.
Minorities need white people; white people don't need minorities.

3pbp

>things that just straight-up aren't true

It can't be 100% because I know a few "dreamers" under daca who have been arrested for possession. This is, of course, letting go of the fact that they are criminals by definition for being illegal.

I'd ask where they got their statistics, then ask for reputable citations.

Also, how can they not have criminal records when they are here illegally?

No. Pretty sure the whole point of the study is to measure improvements in education and wage DACA recipients of those ages.

19-25 is about time when people start college or enter a job so that's what they wanted to study.

Citation needed.

>100% of criminals have no criminal record even though they are criminals
>this somehow means they are not criminals
Any american care to explain this logic?

They don't have a criminal record because they get deported if they commit a crime. They stop becoming dealers and become just a regular illegal.

Also
100% of Dreamers have broken the law by being here illegally
Really activated my almonds.

Go be a traitor somewhere else.

We can't. It's liberal doublethink just like how blatantly racist groups like BLM "can't be racist" because they change the definition of racist to include "being from a position of power or advantage" when it truly just means disliking a race.

It isn't supposed to make sense. Just like how 10 years ago liberals didn't care about gays or trannies but then obama flip flopped on the gay marriage issue and now we have shit like I am Jazz on TV.

Does the average normie ever look at this and say
>huh, isnt is strange that democrats prefer mexicans to us?
Or do they just accept it because it's the correct opinion in the current year?

They had a criminal record the moment their parents smuggled them into our country.

God dammit, why are Democrats so stupid?

Bretty gud strategy desu, it's a government enforced "no true scottsman"

So why didn't they specify 91% of daca aged 19-25 are employed?why extrapolate it to all daca

Any figures like this are so utterly irrelevant I laugh when people bring them up. How they compare against the legal/native population does not matter when by law they aren't even supposed to be there in the first place.

The Democrats use voter fraud to create this idea that they are actually supported by a large percent of the population. Even with their outrageous traitorous activities they still don't have governorships, the senate, the house, or the presidency.

>3000 isn't good enough

Literally what. There have been drugs tested in clinical trials that have used lower sample sizes than this.

>without using an appeal to law fallacy?

Except that's a completely valid argument in this case. No matter how "brilliant" they are, they are illegals and the US voted that they don't want illegals no matter how useful they are.

>you can't drive a car without license
>you can't buy alcohol without an ID

>you can live there without documents

wat?

>educated
aka
>indoctrinated with propaganda

Thanks, but no thanks.

>non citizens
>having jobs
Why would you think that this wouldn't make us angrier?

>dreamers
explain this meme please

>No criminal record
Well they are illegals so...

>no criminal record

>here illegally

Topkek

Obama wrapped up Amnesty in an EO with the acronym DREAM.

Think PATRIOT act but for illegals.

The 91% figure is a different one. That's from a CATO study that included all ages under the DACA program.

The study on the 19-25 ages is just to show how good their wages were in comparison to the average US citizen of the same age.

These stats are complete bullshit, dems just can't stop lying, it's pathetic

100% are criminals seeing as the first thing they did upon entering the country was to break the immigration law.

So all you need to pass a fuck my entire population act on the US is to name it a nice acronym forming a good word?

Actually, dreamers and DACA arenpaths to citizenship.
So that's what they're doing.

>t.former dreamer, now permanent resident

He's also not committing crimes in a foreign country at the expensive of its people unlike spics.

>100% of dreamers have no criminal record

that's statistically impossible

>100% of dreamers have no criminal record

They're criminals by default.

How long did it take you to go from dreamer to resident? Haven't they had plenty of time to get themselves legal?

Exactly, whether it's morally right or wrong to be mad about it, doesn't matter.... because it's an idiotic strategy. People WILL be mad.

It wouldn't work if 1/2 the country didn't want amnesty in the first place. I've had people tell me with a straight face that amnesty is the way to STOP illegal immigration, because they "won't have to live in fear and will come openly."