recently started researching the holohoax, wondering if you guys can lend me a hand and send me info about it. thanks in advance xx
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The real holocaust was operation reinhard named after reinhard heydrich and the brain child of himmler, albert eichmann and odilo globocnik which took place in the 4 camps in east poland. This is proven by an albert eichmann document found in the moscow archive where he requests reports on the camps with figures but heavily implies that hitler knows little to nothing about what was going on. There's also Oskar dirlewangers escapades in belarus. Auschwitz was a hard labor camp with lots of starvation and disease thats become a massive cash cow peddled by myths and exaggerations.
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for those that claim that there werent even 6 million jews in europe at the time. The nazis own records prove otherwise and that there were 11 million jews in europe.
you can read the full thing here
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thoth demands the shill go home
for those that bring up the infamous redcross excuse. this was a lie that was called out by the redcross themselves in the 70s
If holocaust happened I am gald but didn't shill so stop shilling
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I find it interesting that you have no actual point to make and instead are basically telling me to shut up. Is it because you fear actual open discussion on this issue?
You keep making the same drop over and over that has been discussed and refuted over and over. It's old. What you're trying to do isn't going to work. Go home Austrian.
Why,even if there some truth, should we care more about that massacer then the whole story of massacers all over the planet.Dont you think the cristians under bolcheviks was better? No guilt no reparation!
read the OP, they're just answering the topic of the thread.
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>has been discussed and refuted over and over.
it hasnt been refuted though. All you can do is cover your ears because your paranoid and operate from a level of fear and paranoia rather than being logical about this historical event.
From Joseph Goebbels' diary:
>February 14, 1942: The Führer once again expressed his determination to clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now overtaken them. Their destruction will go hand in hand with the destruction of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.
>March 27, 1942: A judgment is being visited upon the Jews that, while barbaric, is fully deserved by them. The prophecy which the Führer made about them for having brought on a new world war is beginning to come true in a most terrible manner. One must not be sentimental in these matters. If we did not fight the Jews, they would destroy us. It's a life-and-death struggle between the Aryan race and the Jewish bacillus.
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It because I had this argument so many time and I'm at that point I just don't care anymore so keep on shilling no one going to buy it anyway welcome to Sup Forums and heil hitler
Why didn't you finish the job? Why do you let them occupy Palestine and deport its people frm their lands?
Can you find the doc pls
>>>/verrit/
fuckin shills
>should we care more about that massacer then the whole story of massacers all over the planet
This is such a pathetic and pitiful excuse. I didnt make this thread user, someone with the same flag as you have did and outright asked for this stuff to be posted. And now that Im posting shit that you cant refute because you never even knew about it, you have nothing to say other than pretending you dont care about it even though you are utterly obsessed with this and talk about it all day every day.
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>I'm at that point I just don't care anymore
thats because you are slowly starting to realize what a ridiculous conspiracy theory all this holocaust denial shit is, yet are too plugged into your echo chamber to just admit it. Notice how none of you have ANYTHING to argue against what Im posting and are just crying about the jewish boogeyman?
>lowering the number of Jewish deaths from 6 MILLION to 3 million would be pointless, because the historians who came up with the figure never took the 4 million Auschwitz deaths into account in the first place (not to mention the death toll includes an estimated 10% non Jeish victims).
Did you even read any of that shit you posted
>h-hey guys its ok to have been misinformed I mean its just a bit of academic horseplay and goyim weren't guilted at all
I don't say this often but you should consider gassing yourself
No isn't and as I said if they did I'm glad because I want all Jews to burn you included
Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day 1, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes.
6,000,000 Jews killed during 3,153,600 minutes comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed roughly 1 Jew every 30 seconds. (LOL)
In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.
It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces which operate at much higher temperatures than the traditional ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaneously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for our greatest ally, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.
That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total number of jews killed would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone.
How can any Jew, Israeli, or Shill ever even argue this story when just simple math is enough to destroy the whole argument? Can any Jews respond to this?
All actual historians concluded that all total deaths equaled up to ~6 million. Soviets argued that it was even more than that because they claimed that up to 4 million died at Auschwitz alone. Everyone else ignored this completely, and when the USSR fell, and their hold over Poland along with it, the plaque was changed to what it had always been agreed upon by actual historians. Try actually reading it again user.
why are they not touching the dead guy, he looks like he weighs 40 lbs but it looks like they are being careful as shit to not touch him
>Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day 1, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes.
Right off the start, you show everyone just how clueless deniers are. No one, has EVER claimed that all 6 million jews were gassed and then cremated.
1. Pathology results at the end of WWII indicate camp deaths were due to typhus. There is no evidence of poisoning by gas. For example, Dr. Charles Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps. Dr Larson told his biographer “never was a case of poison gas uncovered." (The Wichita Eagle, April 1, 1980, p. 4C.) 2. Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D., Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon reported in 1948 that "The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany." Dr. Gordon summarized the causes for the outbreaks as follows: "Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an astounding sight, a mixture of humanity travelling this way and that, homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them ... Germany was in chaos. The destruction of whole cities and the path left by advancing armies produced a disruption of living conditions contributing to the spread of the disease. Sanitation was low grade, public utilities were seriously disrupted, food supply and food distribution was poor, housing was inadequate and order and discipline were everywhere lacking. Still more important, a shifting of populations was occurring such as few countries and few times have experienced." (John E. Gordon, "Louse-Borne Typhus Fever in the European Theater of Operations, U.S. Army, 1945," in Forest Ray Moulton, editor, Rickettsial Diseases of Man (Washington, DC: American Academy for the Advancement of Science, 1948), pp. 16-27) 3. Dr. Gordon's findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces as a young medical student in 1945.
Because DISEASE
Not GAS
4. This lack of evidence is something acknowledged by Professor Raul Hillberg (1985 Toronto trial) and Adorno Mayer ("Sources for the study of the gas chambers at once rare and unreliable" Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?). 5. The findings that deaths were due to disease rather than deliberate extermination is consistent with Red Cross records from the camps and the British intelligence which had been intercepting German communications from 1942 onwards. In Volume II of his book British Intelligence in the Second World War, Sir F. Hinsley notes that British Intelligence was decoding the secret messages from Hoess, Camp Commandant of Auschwitz, to Berlin, which included his daily returns, and goes on to say:-- “The returns from Auschwitz, the largest of the camps with 20,000 prisoners, mentioned illness as the main cause of death but included references to shootings and hangings. There were no references in the decrypts to gassings." 6. Judge Edward L van Roden, one of three members of the Simpson Army Commission, appointed to investigate the Dachau Trials, reported: "all but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operation procedure with our American investigators." (American Atrocities in Germany” The Progressive, February 1949, p. 21f) 7. The six million figure itself seems to have been commonly referenced well before WWII. In 1898 Rabbi Stephen S Wise spoke of “6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism”. 8. Similarly, Don Heddesheimer’s book “The First Holocaust” which also documents post-WWI claims, reported in the New York Times for instance, that East European Jewry was on the brink of annihilation, regularly invoking the six million figure.
Seriously, why are you guys so utterly clueless on what the holocaust even was? NO one has ever claimed that every single victim was gassed. NO one has ever claimed no one ever died of typhus. Anne Frank died of typhus for example.
Its very telling that holocaust deniers have no idea what they are even denying in the first place, which is why they always resort to arguing agianst these strawmen.
9. According to Ben Weintraub, The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism" Hebrew prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million would vanish before Israel could be formed. Tom Segev, an Israeli Historian, discussed how the figure is an attempt to transform the Holocaust into a state religion (The Seventh Million). 10. There are survivors from Aucshwitz like Marika Abrams who were unaware of people being killed by gas. On the other hand it was claimed at Nuremberg that camps like Dachau and Buchenwald were used to gas people. Those eyewitness claims are no longer accepted. Why the change??
I love how no one is responding to the shill
The holocaust never happened, unfortunately
>All actual historians concluded that all total deaths equaled up to ~6 million.
>3 million deaths taken off the books
>Five minutes later
Nazis may have killed up to 20m, claims 'shocking' new Holocaust study!
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We never lie to you goy! Look at my uncle Moshes shrunken head! Thats right hang them all!
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Its funny considering how more and more people are waking up to your neo-nazi lies in every thread you make. Theres a reason most of you are too scared to even respond to me :)
>umm, uhmm... fuck... oh wait!
>STRAWMAN HA YASS! wether it is or isn't, debate won!
million deaths taken off the books
they were never on the books in the first place. I very clearly explained this to you, yet you chose to go out of your way to strawman this argument. Very telling indeed how you have to constantly lie and how you guys constantly act like the scumbag lying jews you always bitch about.
no one has ever claimed all 6 million jews died in gas chambers and they were all burned user. Why do you feel the need to lie if you are so sure of yourself?
>One and a half million Jews were murdered in Auschwitz.
That figure is not even accepted by mainstream academics today lol
Kek nice flag you don't have there JIDF
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>That figure is not even accepted by mainstream academics today lol
you know what else isnt accepted by them? Not one single shred of the lies holocaust deniers peddle. Not one. Why do you think that is user?
Every "death camp" that was investigated turned out to be merely concentration camps which goes against many "first-hand" accounts given by the Jews that were in them. Auschwitz had a pool, nursing staff, and even a dental office.
Typhus was a major epidemic in those days; it was a terrible disease that would spread through dead bodies and also through fleas. Many Jews died in the concentration camps because of it and also because of starvation thanks to the Allied bombings of German supply routes to the camps. To combat this, Germans cremated the dead bodies to dispose of the disease and used a compound named Zyklon B in moderate amounts in gas houses to delouse clothing of fleas and pests that would otherwise transmit the diseases. They had to use it in moderate amounts because the doors to the gas houses were wooden and unsealed and any amount toxic enough to gas a human would essentially gas the entire compound
Hitler wanted to migrate the Jews the fuck out of Germany and generally out of every country they were leeching off of. There were talks of them being shipped off to Madagascar after the war but that obviously never came to fruition. If Hitler would have planned a true mass genocide, they would have been smart enough to come up with a better more efficient system than what they actually implemented, leading people to question the highly suspect narrative of "Death Camps"
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aw shucks, did you forget to take your pills?
Why do you lie AND try to put words into my mouth, Schlomo Goldber Shekelstein Silverblatt Goldshlager Israel Netanyahu?
'Cause it sure as shit isn't working.
So when you are called out, you have nothing else to offer other than another tired jew joke? Why do you think deniers ever have any actual couter arguments? Why do you always resort to shitposting like little children? Why do you think no one, and I mean NO ONE respects you guys at all and see you all as paranoid conspiracy theoriest?
So was that former guard lying or what?
you didnt answer my question user, why is it that not ONE(1) single piece of any denier claim is accepted by mainstream academics? Why are you cowering away from the question like a coward user?
if we are so stupid, dumb, and nobody respects us why the fuck are you trying to talk to us?
>S-strawman
>Doesn't adress why 6 gazillion is never touched and is sacred
Oh w8 I'm being antisemitic
>The new figures of 15 to 20 million, which have astonished some Holocaust historians, come after thirteen years of painstaking study at Washington's Holocaust Memorial Museum. Historians at the museum brought together and studied the huge amount, and often disparate, files and research on the Holocaust.
And they killed my cat little Chayim!
So was the propaganda false? Did they use a human pelvis as an ashtray
>Ashtray
Kek
Why do you feel the need to shitpost user? Are you upset that your childish conspiracy theory is getting torn to shreds and you have nothing at all to defend it? Am I upsetting you?
thats like asking why the mainstream media can't accept the fact trump didn't collude with russia. some things you don't know
Why are you getting this upset because you got called out for your lying kike like tactics user? If you guys are so sure the holocaust never happened, then why do you constantly dance around the point and pull scumbag lies like this?
>Why do you think that is user?
I've no idea there goyim. Just remember you were totally justified in everything you did INCLUDING those nips you didn't shoah with nukes
Am I upsetting you?
You sure seem upset.
Are you butthurt?
These tactics are state of the art, sure to work on the goys 100%.
Stop avoiding the question user. You were the one who brought up mainstream academics, so why do you think not a single one of them believes in any of these ridiculous denier claims?
You didn't answer his question
>Stormfags suddenly care about strawmen
Give me a break.
Fuck. Ya got me.
The holocaust is the only thing that keeps national socialism banned. Of course the kikes make it illegal to deny it in Europe through "mainstream academics"and Hollywood.
It's their best dirty secret alongside 9/11.
Only way to make the normies hate and ban a perfect political ideology is to create a genocide .
Keep shilling.
>You were the one who brought up mainstream academics
top kek here's your last (you) from me!
Scared, lol. We're at work or partying on Labor Day, not on pol in the middle of the afternoon spamming jewish propaganda.
I've seen literally every one of your arguments and they change absolutely NOTHING. It's typical jewish tricks.
The number 6 million is a symbolic number from the Talmud.
There are literally hundreds of references (made by jews) to the "SIX MILLION" number.
On top of that, the kikes have regularly changed the "official" death tolls, originally claiming 4 million were killed at Auschwitz, but they continue to stand by their symbolic and mythologized "SIX MILLION" number.
On top of that, I would make it clear that jews were genocided, but nothing close to SIX MILLION. Those jews who were dfealt with deserved it, they were judeo-bolshevik conspirators.
On top of all that, these stupid zog-baby goy-boys can all quote this SIX MILLION lie when they don't even know how many innocent German civilians were killed, or how many Japs were incinerated by the "allies," or how many Americans or English perished in this stupid jew-caused war.
The holocaust did not happen, shlomo, but I assure you, it will.
Hitler, a jew. Killed 6 million jews in order to secure the territory held by England once called Palestine.
Really the holocaust is a civer uo to nask the massive war crimes by america, russia and england during ww2. USA gave no fucks about firebombing schools and hospitals and shooting pows and civilians in the head and dumping them into a ditch and shitting on top of it to bury them.
>You were the one who brought up mainstream academics
No, I did.
So was that former guard lying?
Take notice of the stormfag deniers guys. Notice how they resort to their little reptilian brain ways of shitposting like some Sup Forumstard the MOMENT their silly little conspiracy theory is challenged in anyway. Not once did any of these guys try to actually debate me. They are intellectual midgets and cowards
>recently started researching the holohoax, wondering if you guys can lend me a hand and send me info about it. thanks in advance xx
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Thats right. Dont answer the question and run away like the coward you are. Dont come at me again
1.) find me mainstream academics who disagree with that statement
2.) answer why no mainsteam academics believes in any denier claim
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>Take notice of the stormfag deniers guys. Notice how they resort to their little reptilian brain ways of shitposting like some Sup Forumstard the MOMENT their silly little conspiracy theory is challenged in anyway. Not once did any of these guys try to actually debate me. They are intellectual midgets and cowards
We don't need to debate you.
We have the evidence that proves the Holocaust didn't happen.
You don't have any evidence that proves the Holocaust did happen.
Let alone the fact that you believe pic related happened.
No, you didn't respond to me cause you're a scared kike.
Hrmmm... why were all the "death camps" in the USSR (controlled media).
Hrmmmm... why have the jews never attempted to excavate their death ancestors? Oh, oops, they did try a few times, but they found NOTHING.
>I literally believe this happened.
He hasn't addressed even one of your posts. Obvious Austrian shill is obvious. Drops the same disinfo everytime he comes here hoping no one will argue.
>20,000 people just magicd out of existence
...this can't be real
>We have the evidence that proves the Holocaust didn't happen
No you dont. You have silly conspriacy theories and you are so insecure about them that you hide out in your little echo chambers because despite all this virtue signaling shit, you know you stand no chance in any sort of debate about this stuff. You guys think the holocaust is all 6 million victims killed in gas Chambers, when no one has ever claimed this. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about
How come your not responded to the guys with swastika putting down pastebins and other facts it's like you can't debunk them
>2.) answer why no mainsteam academics believes in any denier claim
Because it's literally illegal?
1) pic related
2) Tautology. Denial is not mainstream, so no one in the mainstream denies.
That too.
why do you guys constantly harp on irrelevant shit like this as if it matters? Who cares if some random asshole lied about being there, how, in any logical sense, does this mean the event itself never happened? Do people who lie about being Vietnam veterans mean the Vietnam war never happened either? lol
Its funny how you guys constatly harp on this stupid shit since you know you have no real actual argument.
Oh, yeah, the "human skin lampshade" lie that kikes came up with, which they now ignore and act like it never happened cause it's such a patently obvious jewish yarn.
Then there is the jew soap lie, which was so unbelievably stupid even THE JEWS have made films about how it is a LIE.
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They lie about everything and dumb goyim still don't get it.
And your stupid picture of a couple prisoners incinerating an emaciate typhus victim proves NOTHING you dumb kike.
You know that hobos whose bodies are unclaimed are incinerated RIGHT NOW in every major American city? You know that in Iraq we would REGULARLY incinerate rotting bodies of jihadis?
You think a pic of a German soldier at war with a rifle pointed at a kike means anything? Here is a pic of a jew pointing a gun at a kid, I guess that means everything I say is true cause... a pic.
>...this can't be real
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>No you dont.
Yes, I do.
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>You guys think the holocaust is all 6 million victims killed in gas Chambers, when no one has ever claimed this.
It was 20 million killed in gas chambers. Pic related.
>You clearly have no idea what you are talking about
Said the person that thinks the Holocaust happened even though he's never, ever seen any evidence for it.
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Listen to this jew then.
Because all evidence for the hoax is testimony and the "testimony" is clearly bullshit.